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In the Episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast, Aneeqe & Lachlan talk about the values and one's faith. We talk about religion, belief and support systems.

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And thank you. ALFOR joining US welcometo episode numb eighteen of the CLEVERDUMMIES pod cast. I am one halfof the hosting the fabulous hosting JEO locky. Thanks for joining, I aid neycarry garn todight, bother, I'm good, my man, I'm good. You know it's abeautiful day in all off the word. I hope yeahma. I think we're all yeah we'reall in the same boat a little bit so hopefully everyone out thereis doingreally well wherever you are listening to us far and wide many are fire andwide, and I guess before we get into it M, we are very well. We do have apresence on social media. We might not be the most active but h. You know oneone, one foot in front of the other, so checkus out man, obviously so many goodways to listen to us. Probably the best way. The easiest way you don't have todownload. Nothing is straight through the website, but obioty spot a FI.Google pay a lot of people use those appapot Gust Lot. O Hav use thosechannels, so yeteflly Checkus out on there give us a subscribe on any ofthose platforms. Maybe a little plug nice little coment tell us how good allbad we're going and, of course, Fin Est. On this usual social channels. FACEBOOK,twiter, instegraam, clever, dummies, podcast ther Wegwe got onout of the way.Might I guess you know the easy question ishow are You'e going and it's a shit answer, because it is a shit questionbut h how I guess over the last couple of weeks, MIT WE FEL, obviously all theaction going on down, particularly in Victorian. You know you can get into itas much as you want, because you know the same shit every day, but how it'ssort of everything that's been played out recently going, and you know theroad map this and that and all that tha all doctor Dana. You know fantastics ofhow you go on Annwa Bother, I'm good, I'm good, I'm still holding my spiritsup much as I can they's Um. Look, it's not easy because, given the fact that,if you really take into the consideration, if you live in Victoria,you've really been kind of a loked on situation for almost like. I think itwould be like five months altogether or six months old together and that's a long time to be just beinghome, and I was thinking about the my own road map back. U, then, what'sgoing to happen and how I'm gonna, like what's my situation with a job en,obviously what I'm going to do with business and all those stuff, all thosefebulous things Um. You know it's confronting to think about those things,especially knowing that we're still in this, regardless of the fact that youknow even Sar thinking about the future, but you know obviously weare in in thiskind of lock down for Um at least another month. Yeah looks like Rin. Imean, I guess, a positive thing, ids a little bit of a human spirit and theOlsy spirit up here. You know most people a'm, having conversations withthere eve saying something like you know, I'm glad I'm not Innobin, but Icertainly feel really bad for thee people down there, because you knowit's been a real prolong extention of the time, and I didn't really look toomuch at the press conference. was there anything of substance. was thereanything productive that you felt that were going on there? I know we spokeabout it yesterday. It seemed like they were kind of just yeaan. I thrown shitat war and hoping for the best, but won't take anything away from it. I Idid. I mean it makes sense what Tenandi is doing. It's really interestingbecause there's so many angles- and I know we've got a bit of a topic today-Wel Segwein, to that, but I'll get going to that a little bit of the wholechronoile situation. What my point of view on the whole situation is first ofall, I do want to say I am I really want to get out like I want to go. GoOut. I meet my catch up with my friends. I, when I work I wan to get, you know,work moving. I want a job and I want to do all those fabulous things of youknow doing things op human kind, because it's really interesting. It'suntil you do nothing. I you realize the value of those allthese l things. Imean the the opportunity to work right and all those things so th t tees me.So I am definitely. I am not saying that I'm not one of those people sayingwell, it's okay, just put us in Lokd opers. I mean I understand thenecessity. However, I mean I'm not happy about it, but I'm no angry at Dan,Andrews or the government, because theyare doing what's required. I do have, however, on a note, becausea lot of people have been calling down and this dictator and all this stuffright and even keep in mind. I mean he's, go full control of the state andst on top of that he's go the state of r emergency passed through for anothersix weights, I believe and then on ruling basis from there. That means he s. He gets full controlof the states and state and no one really says te thing to him: they can'treally and obviously the federal government can't re. I mean they canstep in through certain Methodologis, but that if they did, that wouldcripple theustraelian economy and all those other political, sad things thatcome along with such force of power. That kind of getspushed on, and I I don't think federal...

...government would step in so that hiisthat that's my first point of view. The second second thing Um going into thatis the fact that, when you think abouteveryone thing, oh danaddress is a dictator and he's just keeping us inall that. First of all, I just want to note if all these people can hangaround- and you know basically say all the opinions theyhave of Tan Andrews so publicly, just as a good example that he's nore,adictated, otherwise everyoneby e, a myfefeay, dructs somesome dude, went to prison, I'm notsure exactly how accurate this ro is. It's one of those bufeed internet orkind of situation. Um this. This guy, I think, went into prce went to prison inNorth Korea because he took a picture of the statue of the DW, the supreme les of North Korea, HiBor, something ikethat crazy story over there like what goeson like they have an annual kind of there. I guess the equivalent of theirAustralia Day and it's like a national day of morning for King John John O ill.I think that's Kimjon UNs, dad or grandfather what it was and like it's aopen morning day so like you'll, be out in public and you'll, have to mournphysically and there's been recounts from sort of there's very few Germalsthat have been able to get in. But there's a few that have you know it'sactually quite an interesting documentary. I can't know: Thir wascold. There wouldn't be too many out there, but he was a get in there and gofor it all and explain how it went. An like people were getting physicallybeat in the straight for not crying hard enough, because old might die t ahundred years ago. So so ywe're certainly a fair way off that and um an I mean even another case in Chida,like the two Thousan eight Olympics, like you remember when that was onthBeijing back ant Twat, it te when thit was getting built. Af Few ears earlier,like there were people that the way they do it over there is like hey we'regoing to put a you know a stadium here. If you live here, if your house is herewill buy you out, you know super cheap as they normally would, and You'e gotto go somewhere else. Whir. There was a lot of people that were rested becausethey refused to relieve their homes that were just getting put in there, so'cause th of the stadium. So I mean you know we co D, certainly a little bit ofperspective. Sometimes guise goes a long way, but you know I. I certainlyunderstand people being frustrated, so it is what it is a little bit Rity, onehundred percent, that's what it is in fact funny you sayd that maybe this isa story for another portcast. I actually met a person. In fact,actually I spent fe bi of time with this oneparticular person who is actually one of the guests of the Supreme Nederof North Korea- and I I think I've mentioned this to you. I don't know ifI'm allowed to say really igntell y Yeah e hipars, MyeCoyeah, so th. This particular resow well through a friend of a friend, thisguy's, the old guy rights. No young he's not myhe's nothangless, but he'slike M. I mean of sort of ex business typhon.If you will right, um he's he's into all trading and all t all those greatkind of things he's old school businessman Um when they were the real.You know the cool kind of Erjr and no yet the orges. Yet so h he's a briiiantman. I mean, I think, H 's. He would be in his late errentes now, but greatshape, but yeah he's like a guest or the supreme leader all the time he justflies in and ot like I it's iats incredible at Hol and he was telling meit's a whole nother word out there. It's a whole nother planet likewhatever you think you know, it's hat you don't and it's interesting, becausewhat he's this is ASPEC and once again, I don't even know if Ishould be saying this publicnosall of US get taken out Byunderand, but he hes. He did say he goes. The thingis with North Korea is the fact that peoplethey don't know different so actually liketo them, and it's not that they necessarily sad and they are suppressed,that's their lives. If that makes sense, and obviously a lot of externalstimulae doesn't actually make it in ded. So there's not much. You know Umdifferent movies and you don't really see what's going on n around the world,so it's a whole interesting pact. Um, but y. Did you know that what in eKinjeron he actually studied at in Switzerland, I believe or Canada, toone of those one n yeah, while Hes d so alive, he was out there yeah, that'sright! That's right! MM hewas living the high life,apparently e was into basketball and all it was Mo. I was trying to think ofthe guy's name. He played like in the Wyeah he wa a do. Do North Korea ar inthe Chicago Pool as n the Nonis like the Litard, Yan, Elo, EI Pipin andthose guy s Ron, somthing, orsiteof mutsit wet.Not! But he's U Know is a real bad boy like a real wild man, it st randomlyit's such such a random connection, but yea he's gone in there all the time andand s obviously old boy. All boy knows what's going on and he must haveshemust have a serious hples, lic hes he's...

...white must be seriously H. I mean overthere a cras he sai, Hey. I mean Yeh as as we said before that interesting youknow little bit of pespective helps there m an w one thing I fouo before weget into. I guess what we' want to discuss that a day we're talking aboutit yesterday and I didn't know a lot about it either and you certainly did.It was obviously the the news we've been hearing about th Google W inAustraliaan certain legislation and things that you know, data that thisshrang government wanted to get and all that sort of thing. What? Obviously,we've heard a fair bit about that? Could ye explain a little bit more yesgn quickly wrap up on the cobininty sitation or go straight into this yeah?I guess WH. What else is there to say? That'Sgood White, Good Boi, lave strongout their dids, actually no thre. There is one point that I wanted to make andis an interesting perspective. I heard Braim so bad, remembering people'snames he's online. He used to be like a big time, radio DJ he does like allkind of the online equivalent. Now I can't o remember H. His name is Um. I Iwill remer it by the end of the PODCAST, but he's a really good dude like he hasdo. You know the Um, like the impact theory like Tom Billie, ys kind of likethat, equivalent of a show, but it's mainly focused on politics and he hehad a guest on, and I were talking in depth about it and c about the wholesituation, and this is kind of again the perspective of where we're all atat the moment is like we. You know, I guess. Initially, we were obviouslyreally concerned and we're still concerned, but the predictions of howbad this thing was going to be the Aman of people, who's, Gon Affect andultimately kill, was predicted. You know a lot higher was kind of aroundone percent of the global population. You know now it's well below point none and all that sort of thing. So I think, what's kind o going on a littlebit is obviously governments wanting to play it safe and not wanting to beliable for reopening and then things sort of falling apart again but h, Ithink the original numbers in the the medical evidence that we were going off has so quickly idobted itself that butgovernment arent willing to own uptoat they're, not willing to say hey, we gotbad advice or you know we sort of were over cautious, we're going to pushforward we're going to reopen things now we're going to try to figure outget back to the way it was and kind o playit a little bit, not less safe andless conservative, but we're kindot Goin to just pull out bloody fingersout of her ice and actually take this thing for what it is en know who itdaffect. So I think really that's what's happening. I think people were not willing to jump to that conclusionyet, but I think it's going to be provuctive for everyone. If we kind olike ow up and say, hey like this thing, actually isn't as bad. Let's get somegood news out there and, let's not just get like four new cases in librisiit's,terrible like you guys, actually have something to stress about four newcases. One spawn in central coast pub closed like it. The first figre hear soIW's, like you know, that's that's all the media there itself, but I think t Ikind of time to address what is kind of going on now and get to AU stage. Nowwhere we can. Actually, you know we do they're, so certor waiting for thisvaccine now that that's kind of where I get a little bit worried about it and what we Agu. Eighty four milliondoses of this thing. So it's good to know astray is going to be one of thefirst developed countries that are going to be. You know in that sphere ofopening things up, but I don't think this thing is as bad that we need tohave mandatory vaccenes or everyone needs to be maccinated before we getback out. I think it's like control the small percentage or the certainpercentage of the population that have underlaying health conditions that areat risk, and then everyone else can kind of get back Rolland, but pay.That's only my two cents on a twenty four year old, Budy Uton. What do Iknow? Well, that's exact. Look I think, th and that's something I just Wan toquickly touch on as well before which I wodidn't get a chance to. What I wasgoing to say was once again a looking at Victoria and they were looking aVictoria, because I am sitting in Victoria one of the things they saidthey did a whole bunch of modeling right now. I can touch on this becausesomeone who actually studied Dara and knows Tata Right, so I can actuallytouch on this because he said that we did all this dyna modelling and this isthe result we got, and this is what the pretiction is. However, there is onething that is missing: Right is one thing that is missing from the Daramodling daamordling is working of the worst scay scenarios of the worst catscenaris right, not the worst monsci now, but yet it's working on thescenarios that it will be axpedential of spread of the cronovariar. However,what the data moling is missing is the human behavior and they need toactually basically saying you know I I most businesses want to stay open. Theywill follow the rules because they don't want to be close down. That'swhat I'm saying right if they followd the rules and most people wouldactually and there'll be also a huge percentage of people. Wou still won'teven go out, despite the fact that they're allowed to go just because theyare afraid. So, if you give those intodaamodling- and I know they H-would have not given that intothought because T it's no logical to put thatin there. However, it is it is when you're talking about human logic. Thisis the biggest problem that we always...

...have been data modeling of differentDares Eso. I pointe humans are we. They react, they don't react, how theyshould so, for example, let's say if we opentomorrow, I can guarantee you know what everyone woill go out, because there'llbe l, those people who just go wel way to for I to go there'll be other peoplewould be like well, W should mediate. So there's always that right, so yougot to keep that into acount of modeling, so th the thes, a Lord ofthat when and obviously it devis not saing, the vise is bad.However, I do think there's a control to it and m there's different ways toit. But then again you know, like you said: What do we know when they've go?They could possibly HAVP. Possibly maybe leturally have experts working onthis for that trimet. That is a difficult thing like you can easilytake the you know the consperiotory angle, and Idon't like to call it that all the time, because for a lot of time, it's peoplethat are you, know, kind of similar minded to what we are, and therecertainly are people that I've spoken to that are, you know extremely theother way. You know this thing is completely artificial and it's nonsensein it's o their way of control. So I think that happy medum has to be takento consderation and there's always going to be that portion of thepopulation that just that's the way. They look at things and I always stickbyliachan everything, including the truth like just keep questioning thingsand try to cou t with your rational ecision, and I guess that's where I amnow with it all, but you know we're all kind ofoa over talking about it, butthat's probably the wrong way to look at it because it's very present and heand you can't just push it away and pretens. Not here, you can actuallykeep having these conversations and finding similar people, and I thinkmost people are pretty similar minded right now, like Os. I people worried, Idon't think anyone's you know and then there's other people that are on theother side too. So then we get into the ethical decision of vacccinations andall that sort of thing like that's ate, teorters again, tit's. Definitely deepaders there but UM. I don't think we're wecertainly not at that stage. Yet,where that conversation needs to occur, not irial yeah. I think I think Wawe're in a good country for it anywer. I think we're going to be Trg O prettyfailing we'gardless. Absolutely I mean there's a lot like you can alwaysspeculate. I I mean that's. The best we can do is speculate and the worst youcan do isspais between the two I mean the media. Does it right? They are theone really I mean if you think about it, an this is a perfect se. We O Goin O R,next quick little chat of media. It's actually you talk about Massmedia, theway tey to it and they basically, in fact they are the ones who are actuallymaking the whole situation way worse, because they're reporting on the thingsthat they shouldn't be and they're making the things sound worse than theyare, and sometimes not actually giving the right numbers and a lot I mean thetimes they keep. So basically in victory, most of the time the numbersget reported right, they say t'll be forty four numbers right. However,outother forty four, like you know, let's say eight of them arereclassified, so really the numbers Irl, like thirty something B, but the mediawould pick the higher number to report on so something l Ke that so whateverthey do, theye actually doing just always selling that fear kind ofsituation, and you know they're making money out of it like just like anyoneelse. I mean and that's another problem with this whole Comin Ninten situationthat actually pories me the most is how many people did, how many things whilewe were all too busy focusing on the coby nineteen C evation Wi, whichactually brings us brings me to the topic that you are just touching on, isactually gooogle versus Australian Australian media in Australia. Rey Imean Um. Have you looked much into it? Yeaha little bit, I I haven't gone to Dape into it yet 'cause, I to be honest, I NW. It was maybe going to be a fiel that you're going to be interested in if geta much better understanding of it from you anyway, like that kind of is whatit is. B, T- and it's probably like a situation of like right place righttime like actually don't have the energy to look at it. You know maybe asmuch as I like, but I know it is the astrayin government wanting control ofthe what sixty percent of the date orsomething like that on tobls Ay, what they want. Actually, I guess before Yeugo into what's really going on. Maybe you should do that in the Thaiwayroundlike why LD? Why would the SRAN government want to propose to facebookand Google that hey? We want granded control of your your resources and whatyou guys possess. Why ould they want to take or take some of that off the otercountries, Althugh Thcebratiosrthe, Australian, N or Auste immediacompanies call them the Big Bois, the big war, fair, Famitn, yeah, Afar,paxils and stuff yeah. So you're talking about you know, go the channelnines and all those all those people right and they I think they lowbeatinto Um. I think Senatet, a Littl binteseed and the basically and th amand gone and said, hey. Well, you know all these patforms have come out andour policies of ACM or srillin standars of whate was called AV broadcastingstandards or the media standards haven't been arded ATM. Yes, that'swhat it is: Um AMC, OI C nmotibiities right, so theybasically Oben S. Oka sh, ommunication,...

...an media. I reember that from thebloody e h the radio TATXT, so they've gone to them and said: Well, you knowthey haven't been updated and we don't think it's a plain field or playingbecause right now google gets everything pace we get everything weget. Nothing really what's happening is, and this is this is straight. I'm goingto be honest here, because I've never liked me. Tha Company, so obviouslytake it as you will, because I might be being subjective here like so look ingto it yourself. Media companies have never KEP. Those companies didn't keepup with time, unfortunately, they're losing the monopoly and the B but heardabout it. So the second best thing they could do is bully the competition. TheBULLI DDETIN, the problem with monopolies is, they need to realize,sooner or later, another monopoly will take over that's how the game works right,unfortunately, but they they don't want to get. They don't want to get Lek, goof. They like you, know Nice, cars and their FA stomachs and all those youknow all those things right, because they want their. They want to keep theall that control and right now, you look at how much controlled medias,basically h has because of the Oll cobynineteenth situation, because we're getting all our news from them. Theywant to keep that control, but what has happened is one of th what they said.This is what this is, what they want. What they want is they want greatercontrol of the Tara, so they can actually make more money, because whatthey're saying they're Nott, making any money and of cause no one watches T Vand old. What only way they can get their news out to people and they canget the media out to people is through online google right on Google Tatform,but now they feel like well rooaloans everything. So we want, you know wewant Tho pes, bigger piece of the Pie because you know so they basicallyjumped up and down Um. So what has happened? Is they go well?This is the situation and they'r going to and then basically theTN government has put it to Google and Guswell. You need to do what what themedia companies are asking for is sixty percent more in ad revenue, more control oe, so they want th. Theywant. Google tore, expose or basically share their algorithms so but basicallyallows a video to rise to the top. So they want the googles. All goit them iswell keep inmind Google's agoithms, a PR bitrate proprietary technology, soGoogle cant o share that, because that's what makes Google coogles one ofthe biggest thing- I don't know I people know thise googles biggeststrength is the algorithms none of that other stuff. The majority of theincomes is ad revenue. Gool is actually advertisement and marketing COMPANINOTA technology company. Believe it or not. The aftonial fact very perspectivehere. That's what they are I mean Google makes you think Google makespones, they don't make. That's a small amount of money; they just make it sothey can put their google search on it. That's really! Why make it you thinkGoogle makes all those Ab Tey Jus, give away everything for free, so people useGoogle search, that's where they make money and they advertise. Google is amarketing company, that's all it is, and they've always been and that's howthey make money, and so what those stain companies re asking for they asknar sixty percent more in oir revenue than what they're getting right now. SoI think it roughly equits up to sixty million dollars per N. I believe,actually more probably I'm not exactly sure it might actually be more might besixteen million dollars a month or something something be anyear. Maybethat Eah, I it'. It's Estraba like it's a huge amount right, it's a huge min. Ican't I don't remember the figure, but it's a huge man. So that's what theywant now and they want Thot cantrol an they want, the information of keepe keyperson of interest. So what that means is if the Australian med, Ou Kn W, letAcertin Media Company decides they want a target lowand for certain XPI SAD um.Google will be made to hand over your data to them because they want it. Sothat's really I mean it's it's horrible and WBAT. That means is what that means.They'll control, if they get control of the Algorithmsthey, their stuff will beseen first, they will basically go back to what that days used to be were theonly way we go any information and anything troug through basically medias, and they willcontrol it again, all over those Murdos and all those things, and on top of thetopit O, all top it over they're doing doing the same thing to fasebook. No,the problem with the facebook is that's a major hit for a whole bunch ofbusinesses, because I don't know if people notice our businessadvertisement is no whatit used to be used to be used to have to advertise.We media companies, like the TV hen, used to pay hundreds and thousands ofdollars media. Now you can pay. You can run an ad for fifteen dollars and youcan get sales out of it, but if it goes back to those guys, they will beactually have a bigger control over. You know if they'll have bigger controlover what gets seen and then again, the way it works is there's only so muchcontent that can be seen by people right, because there's way more contentthan there is actually people. So if they're quontenly sitting always at thetop, so people who are making videos like were making Portcasta things willshare or won't be seen by anyone. I just wet those Guysyeah, so...

...the downise do exact structure that thebusiness that we've well and truly pass by like internationally, like that's aglobal market of media. Now is it's all online? It's all. You know, there'sobviously big players and even thee's massive podcasting netwax that host ashitload upon cast even in like individual settings, but everyone kindof has innobility and has the freedom to make it on their own. And whatreally this is going to do is limit that to such a small portion like itwas in the old days, you've got to go through big brother or these bigcompanies and then that'. That honestly sets us back so far right like that.That is such a shortsighted view. If the governmentagrees to do it and it obviously our billy to get information, particularlyas I'm sure you're goingno get to now, if googl decides to just not play ball,which obviously, why the fock would you and just Hoik it out like stray, is forcing like they're forcingtheir hand, because Gug i's not going to do shitright like they're, not goingto give out their proprietry information they're going to give outtheir key business model, so obviously, Gegush is going to Whak it and decideto not. You know, operate in a stray. Would facebook do the same thing too,or would it just be woult, I thw? What would happen is I I think that's what Iwas thinking. So what my prediction is. If, if the companies- and you know thegovernment, doesn't l pull back, what possibly could happen is basicallyGoogle and facebook, my boycart Australia in in a senseway, you canstill probably access their services with the limited results and M,probably, and you know or Ma who knows if they, how depends on how bad a melike going back, teccades right like it yeah, that's writ about it more thanLikelyyeah. Well, I mean if they boyot, and what I'm Ho. What I'm thinking is.This is what the thought pattern of the government is, and I presume the mediacompanies is. They know they can't take on Google and plase m both at once,because they are, I mean Google and baseball are probably you know.Arguably, the most powerful antities in the world ride law government iswronger than goog lespionis right, Google controls half the word erthey're in fit exactly t influencs right. They inftheir control. Al Teword, however, they're, probably the lesser of the more evils, because in away google s still lets yo know what they're doing that's right. Let' Yoknow what they're doing, because they wan to keep that they cud Google Muste,keep that Oh, the Nice company kind of a situation. However, however, given that and alsoMagis just aside now just remember Larry Pagon, all those people who owndGoogle and Mexico bu were just people like us right, they weren't born intomoney and they weren't into polities, and they were just like you know. Justpeople like us who Aron Toana engideer on to penes incredible company, sokeeping who would you rather trust those these people who have always likeyou know about Madem, murdock and all those guys, a o, the family and w? Howthiscontent we already know Mwogis all boy from tey te ioyh man Ti was thinking about that Sho,the othe acertain. We owe already know what kind of thes what these kind ofpeople are. So you know who do you want to trust thos? You know the person whojust became you know struck cold and basically, still you know theyre stilltrying to save the planet doing all those things or would you trust thoseother guys? whow just want the money and control over politics and all thatstuff. Now, if, if that goes through what will happen, if Google boy cutsletme tell this is what could happen, this is the wirst gas n. Now Yo. Thatmeans our online trade would probably suffer messively the way it works. Ouradvertisement prices will go up. People like me who make money out of borkingfor like as a marketing online diditally will suffer and they thislike people like contencreated like us, so you know you go last making portcassour shares won't go anywhere. You Got People like Ilak Bnefel on you. Do youknow if he makes a video, he would get less because keep in mind. If gougl isgiving away sixty percent more to these companies or from ad revenue, they willgive them less money. The hothe other contacratore in Australia, because theysay more weaites are the money. The market is too diluted. Basically, whathappens is this? His is just a expanasion of a market tallution theson on blackrurms right, so it was easy to grow your folling on Instregam aboutfour five years ago. Now it's almos, it's almost impossibleor not impossible. It's Difulusy, I so many ITA numbers game right. It's anumbers GAM because there's so many people there and so many people,creeating content, there's not enough people to actually look at all. Thosepictures and algorithms will always show the most people, but people areinteresting and most people are interested in seeing page heathowaystuff, not my stuff right. So my stop will get pulled down by the time theywill be done, scrawling they they will have seen six pitches o pad heaoway andtheyl be like well, I'm done so that's hard, wck! That's what televiion work! 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...were. We stand, Amido the reason. Theperfect timing is well normally spaying attention to it. That's right and yeah you're, almostit's almost impossible too, because just not you're almost not able toabsorb the information if foliten to it and most people, unless you're able todo the research on really look into it. Like you actually don't really know,there's no way of knowing, because it's not being told like this Infam, it'snot being told even ere, not even getting told lies, we're almost hearing,nothing an yeah, that's so concerning, and that's ultimately the fear thatmany people had what this you know what this situation wit, the cover nineteentsituation, would do was like what it would bring on. How would it changesociety not just in how we dealt with people, but how like who's, going totake advantage of this situation and that's exactly what it is takingadvantage of this situation? It's something that you know people are notgoing to like. 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If you didn't know now, you know, maybe that's what we're herefor Mever di that', droped knowledge, knowledge! That's right! I don't get d. You know we'll kind o talk about it alittle bit today and it's just something that I always go through andsomething I've gone through. So M N. I guess what it really is going to Linconrelate back to his the ability to overcome adversity,particularly you know, finding ways to overcome difficult times, particularlyIndependimi, what we're going through right now and how it's sort of helpedme. So I mean as long as you've known me, brother, like you've known I've,been a pretty devout Christian like I certainly will. Never. You know I'dnever lie and say I live a perfect life. I've made so many mistakes. Manymistakes that I you know have not just asked for forgiveness, for but many fthings that I haven't even forgiven myself about so um, so that's kind of where I've had alittle bit of like a disdain n like it's really hard, because so manypeople ether raised retheous all their relays, they'reraised with a certain belief system or it's kind of the opposite, and I kindof view Athism BEC, because of this reason, as a belief system. Your beliefin nothing and that's kind of an interesting topic in itself like, evenif you aren't believing you're, actually pretty you're, pretty strong.You believe that nothing does exist. So, whoever you know, whatever your viewsare, I think youl can'na be able to relate to this and at te Colfundamental. You know at the CAL fundamentals of Christianity.Ultimately it's about believing in a higher power, its believing about AnnaGod, who sent down his son to essentially wash away a turn for allour sens, any bad good bag or ugly, be doing our life as long as we give ourlives to Jesus Christ. As long as we ultimately decide that hey, you know,there is a creator out there. I have only a certain amount of control as aperson, and I I want anything outside of my control and I want any of mydecisions to be kind of like not controlled, to reallybad woy, because that's kind of been the problem with religion for a longtime, but I want that kind of external force and that energy that a lot of usfeel- and we can't quite put our hand on I want that to be governed by myLord. I want that to be governed by Jesus, and particularly, you know mostpeople in tough times that's when they call back on the old boy. You know whatI meen, like things are going good. It's like yeah. I've got this good,takeer backseat, and now it's like, if things aren't going, that good, evenmentally physically whatever's going on n your life, you tend to come back andthat' kind of been a little bit of my cycle and I guess my relationship withit as well, and particularly within this time like it was, you know we wereall kind of struggling around our own way and trying to get through it alittle bit f. for me, it was really you know it sort of really hit just after a he was born. Obviously, today, be'seight weeks today, like this two much men, that's Goine so far like itsridiculous. So I mean it's not two months, but it's eight weeks same sing.Can you believe that that's incredible e easy m yeah? Soanyway it was Kinda. You know you had this really amazing experience and thiskind of, like I felt like I was in a bubble for two weeks like nothing couldhit me. It was like this amazing thing and then I kind of was hit back withthe way I felt pre n, like you know, some issues that I really needed to dowith in that relate to so many elements and things in my life and what you knowwhat I found with this most recent time where I gave my life back to God andthat's ultimately, what happens you know Y, you ask first andforemost, you ask for forgivenness, so any wrong. I have done now an in thefuture. I need to be forgiven for because,through that pathway, through the presence of God, like you, 're able toforgive yourself, because if in yourself you can't find a reason toogive yourself or something like you need something extra. You need anexternal power you need. You know, maybe that person that you did wrong.You need them to give you then Nican five Yoself, that's kind of theprinciple of it and I'm a little bit...

...being wishwashy, but I'm just trying tokind of relate to it, and so many people have this preconceived notionabout Um. I don't know if I like Tor te use the word religion, but we just useit ECAS. Everyone understands it, they have so many misconceptions, and somany experiences and no one's really wrong in thinking these things orbelieving these things, because, like man, if you grew up with you, had theseneighbors, who were quite unquote about Christians and noer, the worstneighbors ev her, they never took their trash out, they yelded their kids, theykicked their doll. You know like these things happen and I even grow up goingto church mice, my life and all be perfectly honest. Most of the people Ishould say there was A. There- was a small percente to the people, but thepeople actually remembered from my church that's kind of the way the humanbrain works, Oronthe being really stuck up and really like High Lik. You knowI'm better than you type things, so those sort of things come in to play. Ijust wanted to share kind o how I draw and how I've kind of how I kind of seesituations and bring it back to me. So, ultimately, I was just in in a placeagain where I was. I wasn't. You know. I've talked about my depression andI've talked about my mental health before I certainly wasn't at that stage,and I don't think I will ever get back to that stage because of Abbe andbecause of Charlotte and just because of going through that situation beforeI know kind o know a little bit like what rock bottom is. So I know that I'mnot going to get back there, but just like everyone mean I wasn't feelinggreat and I was kind of getting back to that headspace a little bit where youknow I was really negative: Bat Myself Iwas, seeing you about past mistakesand I'd, forgive myself and now Iwa Puttng, myself, brough the shit againand you know so. Ultimately I was like. I need to clean up my act. I need to bea better person. I need to give my life back to God, give him the control, andthat doesn't mean you turn off and you do nothing that just means in prayer ormeditation. You know meditation. So prayer is my meditation. I try to seekthose truths out and kind of the way I think is actually more of arelationship than you know than than like a authority figure. So if you'regoing through your day today, if I'm really stressed, if I'm not feeling itbest today, I would just sort of sit there and lpray and I' I'll, just kindo ask first guide insulfar help or just a little bit of strength and usuallywhat happens man, it's not like. I I hear some hollow come over me and it'slike do this. I just start thinking I'm ableto at least for a couple of moments I'm able to kind o squash some of thosereally negative emotions, because that's what happens- and you canprobably say the same thing here like most of the time when you're notfeeling the best like the thing that actually is the hardest part is likeyour emotions, are so high and intense. You actually can't see through the shiplike it's really hard to get through Aven Oyyaand, very cloudhe. Cloudy isthe exact word because it's like you can see it there, but you can't get toit. So that's all tmen does that little bit of Pra, just kindof gives me in mybrain sat's going okay like how can I solve this problem? What do I need todo? I need to start eating beter. You know N F. One of these things are so tat. I did that, and that was the initial thing and ultimately, like n edeep down, you know my my dad used to put it the best way and it's like avery graphic and upfront way like if you, you know, put a gun Nde my head,and you said, like ever announce your belief in God or donbt. It's like e'llput a bull in Ermie because I'm willing to sacrifice my life like that's kindof how serious this is at the end of the day. So even Oh, a lot of peoplefeel and I'm kind of going off at a ttanget here, but I'll kind of bring itback. A lot of people feel that a lot of religious people really crazy, andthese guys are just overly intense El. No, it just mean whatever we believe inis bigger than ourselves, so we're willing to sacrifice ourselves for it.So that's all that is is just a really powerful thing. It's like havingsomeone you love like you know. If, if your sister was in trouble like you,would sacrifice yourself an a in a second sor that sort of way. So that'swhy it's such an intense emotion there. So I gave you know I was able to startforgiving myself again. I gave my life back to the Lord and immediately thesethings started to kind of come back and iplay and in in myself what I was ableto kind of reglihe with some of that passion that I had from that place, andI was able to put in other areas if my life and a little bit more energy,that's the worst thing about feeling mentally jacked uprities. You justdon't feel like doing anything. You know how to help yourself and you justit's like you can't even do it. So I'm starting to see things in the world nowand things that I've read in the Bible about quite unquite the in times andI'm certainly not going to be a person. That's going to save you know theendies near repent, but at the end of the day, there's a a continued messageof the way, an t e. ultimately, if you believe in God, you've got to believein the devil. Like thats kind of you know, you can't have one way or theother, and ultimately the devil's Gal is to take people out of God's hands.Let him belive in their own way in their own life and just these littlethings and I started to see Ok like I'm, I'm actually doing like. If I, you know,I'm doing the right thing here, I'm kind of picking these things out andillprobably a conversation I'll have with you off there just 'cause, it'sSumdhing, that's affecting people in my life right now, and it's also reallytricky subject, but ultimately, like it kind of comesdown to a little bit a little bit of just finding somethingfor yourself that you believe in Um,...

...and it's it's pro, it's gotto be morethan just the general. You know things I like, or my hobby and even familymembers are really good and, like I love all my family members and myfriends and that sort of thing, but in now, with a time more than ever, that Ireally needed to find something that I believed in. I had faith and trust inand that's what that's what God provides me? It's like it's all ofthose things that I just explain it's when times are tough something to clingonto when I need some helplety decision, it's Te, Bele the SIFE and forinformation, and it's just like creating a habit. Once you start thosepositive things once you start praying once you start reading once you startlooking at things differently and thinking like Mita Specti has changedhuge over the last couple of weeks. Like my the glasshouse full type aspect,like I'm a lot more positive now, and I can actually say that you know I'mstill a pretty positive person, I always like to be a nice person, butmost f the time that comes from a place of like. I don't want my pain to be puton to someone else, but I can actually say now that it's actually coming froma good place and I'm actually really upbeaten positive and happy about thesituation I'm in and where we're headed and even ough things seem dire. I knowthat everything's going to be g, okay, because you know at the end of the daywhat happens when I die, I go to aternal paradise and things are goingto be. Okay, that's obviously different conversation and at's. You know whereYou'e going to lose some people. That's totally fine! I'm not here to convinceanyone of anything, I'm just kind of giving my thoughts, an opinion, but really what it found me and you cankind of get this same thing in hobbies. You can get the same thing in a passionlike that's what it is. It is passion whether it's a relationship wheever,it's a sport, whether it's a hobby, whether it's working on your car, likeanything that you like to do f, find something that you know is going to be.Therefore, you, no matter what and as little or as big as that may seem, itmight sound insignificant, it's kind of it's something that you can always holdtight too like when the wind is crashing through and your you know,you're barely y know you're getting through days that are like man. I can'tlive like this, like what the hell is going on like the real bad times oreven if you know someone who's going through these sort of things like whatpsychologists would do- and this is where science and religion have a greatrelationship, but it's not always decie versus religion. Is You can use thesestrategies to help other people like Ikwhat's? One thing that you love nomatter? What like do you like this sport, or do you like to go to thebeach, or do you like to do these things, so you can actually start tohelp people in that way. Eliminate toxic things in your life, like onceyou're once youall and being a Christian for me, is aboutbeing the best version of myself. It's not actually about being better thananyone else, his us being the best version of myself. So once I startlooking at being the best version of myself, I start to get rid ofsituations and not really get rid of people 'cause, I'm pretty good atmaking friends with only the people. You know I know I should be. You knowwe, we Yahi wondn't, say hs day, but we knewone friend that you know we had to I pretty much bt, I'v Ben Pretty Luckylike I'm pretty. I feel like I'm pretty good at you know,seeing situations and, like I think, a big thing is like when how you feel Isomeone is a real big indicator of what that person is like like these times,and everyone has bad days and all that sort of thing and sometimes t being afriend for someone Ho's about being there for them right. But you knowsometie if it's a constant thing like every time I talk to this person orevery time I Raun this person thiy make me feel the same way. Well, maybethat's toxic, so it's just kind of like eliminating that and just getting backon the roll a little bit and just just looking at things with a more problem,solving positive outcome and at the end of the day, like I'll, be honest. TodayI had a really hard day in my prayer, Tlain mi meditation. Today I didn't sayanything I didn't do anything. I just cried for ten minutes. That's all! Idid I'll tell you white, because that's what I needed to do like I'll come backtomorrow, when I won't feill any emotion and I'll be really fougtful.When I wal thinkg about something training or something I love or someitg with Abbey today it was just just led in so you can use those great strategies likemeditation can be your own thing you can you can um you can. I think it's ultimately aboutdoing something. That's going to put you into a state of mind where you canhopefully get through most of your emotions and kind of speak and thinkclearly to yourself, and I think, having conversations with yourself.Productive conversations with yourself are really importan. So I guess onething that I you know. Obviously, more than anything, I would love to talkabout the word of God and all o've to talk about cheses forever, but at theend of the day, like there's a time in a place for that, and I'm also stillvery young and my journey is Boll An. I wouldn't sit here and claim to be anexpert or anything like that. I I just kind of know how to process little bitsof information relative to my own life. That's really my only skill I have, andhopefully I can relate those sort of things to other people's lives as well,but m. If you know, I guess at the end of the day like what I wanted to saymore than anything like if, if you're, if you're struggling with anything, ifthere's a situation that you maybe know the answer too or you want to know theanswer too, like...

...take a step back from it, you've got togive yourself the opportunity to solve it like if you come at it yourself withthe perspective of Flike, I have to figure this out now right now, what'sgoing on w? What's going away, am I not doing good Wy, I'm not feeling good?You know, that's latually how I speck to myself. I'm sure people can relateto it like when you're stressed Lhat'. How you're talking to yourself just Yo,give yourself something every day to look forward to. It might be somethingreally small like taking a dogs for the walk it might be clean in the car andmight be eman going for a drive man there's nothing more peaceful than aslong as you're, not insidney traffic, but know go to the backrouds, just oe,where you can just be free of a lot of ex. You know external m. You know awayfrom your phone a lot of external things that are going to take you offyour mind and I think if you really are struggling orif you just need help with something you're more often tha not like you canget information from other places, but you're going to have the answers a lotof the answers, particularly if it's based off prior experiences, you'regoing to have that ability to figure things out in your own self and just be just bekind yourself andknow that your you know: you're the best you're, the best equipped personto do with your situation, because it is your situation own. That thing, thisthing might be terrible. This thing might be crappy, you know you can stayhard and you can stay cold and all that sort of thing. Those are really good,because that helps you not be so overly reactive, but we have to becompassionate because I think, as humans we're all at the end of the day,the core of our hearts is love like we want love. We want to be loved, soapproach your problems from that angle and hopefully that helps even a littlebit. It's just all about having a little bit of perspective, and you knowknowing that M. knowing that you know as difficult asthings are right now, youre, you know you're just going through what you haveto go through to get through that situation ends. You know it's really.It's really easy to get down in yourself when it's real easy to get Um, it's really easy to get negative, butUm. Just just you're goingto be okay, love, always wins. Jesus loves you. Youmight not believe that or you might do but know there is someone out therethat loves you. This family members, that loves you, there's a greater worldthat loves you most people ar good people. There's a you know, a smallpercentage that in unfortunately that's the way the world works but Um, you know so many people were caught upin what other people e saying about them and how my work mates think aboutme and all that sort of thing now you or you like you're you're, the shitlike I don't mean to put it that way, but you're the shit like you, you knowyou can do it t's, it's on you, but you can do it. So just just kindof havethat little bit of perspective about it. I think that would that would reallyhelp Im. I know I saidl what there, but there was kind of a lot of my mind alittle bit too, but that's kind of howl. I process things as well, so Iappreciate you kind of Givng me the floor to kind of speak that out Um. Idon't know if you have any questions or if you want to kind of go from there ormaybe ways that you've dealt with your own personal, your own personal demonstoo, but m just know that you're there for yourself send there's other peoplein your life or you can go find new people in your life that are going tobe there for you, sir. We Love You juds and and Gills and Um and everyone andeveryone else ever now. That's awesome, Ook. I think that wasgreat, actually M. I had to keep up and commites. Now Myself, EA was alot. WhatI want there y ranting for the most PA. I thought Ithought it was Gret good, because I thought that was very real and Ithought that was the best part about that. I think Tho, W PEAN and most ofthe things we talk about is always real in the first place to begin with,because that's what we've always done, we have real conversations and thething we think about it. We may not always be right, but is a thing that weknow at w. Our headi on and that's when, if you remember UN, the what you wroteabout M, obviously your experience in if you want to give that a quick plugor, at the end, h episode like you kind of detailed of what happened to yourearlier on in life, and you brought up about having friends and moving fromoverseas and struggling, and that was actually a really good point. Youbrought up because I think that's one of the first things that we connectedwith quickly like we were able to just talk deeply to each other just aboutwhat was going on. We didn't have to you, know kind of Puss y foot round alittle bit for a lack of a better word or we didn't have to you know so.Having that one person in Yoir life they help you know, even if they can'thelp you through your situation, because you need to help yourself likethey help and having that one person or a few people to help you throughtalking those situations out so massive one hundred percent and and actuallyfunny enough talking about this yeah. 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...family are the C, the othe coffee toYour Cup right, the onl things I I I said, which is one of the things thatamazes me, is the fact that m very often we think weare alone and we'refighting the struggles of life alone right yer and an it's easy to thinkthat sometimes you K ow. I don't want Tus don want to Scud those people whoactually may not have that, because I'm aware these people art they workactually really generally alone, but more often than not right. The and th tthey might be exception to the rule, but have ever, however, more ofthanthan north there's always someone who cares rght and there's always peopleout. There were willing to listen to you and e Lord People. In fact, evenstrangers of the celition people. People are full of compassion, I meanThep. People are often going to say everyone is going through testing times.People are compessionere, people do giveissh, so hundred percent on themark, ther and Um you're right. I think one of t some of the questionsI had and n some of thoe things that I kind of know the answer as well. Like Isort of went through a different scenarios. I wonted to get your thefirst question that I had of the Ba off the right of the top is what was thetrigger of this like new sort of like Um, not necessarily rediscovering, butwhat was this like? What was the trigger or what was? What made you go?Hey, I'm going to Hav return to God or WTO Jesus. So I think the what really happened forme was like kind of a little bit of a culmination in a snowball that probablystarted like precover. It actually did start a little bit around that time too,and you know that was not eating the best, no, not training as much and kindof putting my you know putting my career, putting my studies to the sidesjust because that's actually the situation that came up and I lost alittle bit of a sense of direction. So when I lost that sense of direction orultimately, a purpose that I feel you know a career purpose and kind ofsomething that I want to push forward to later in life, and, that's being youknow, being a trainer and being able to help people both physically andemotionally. With things like once, I lost once I kind of lost, even my shortsided pathway. Of that, like I begin to really slip back and I had to my oldway of thinking came back and what what I struggled you know. The way kind ofmy younger brain came back in and took that away from me. So I never yeh, soit was just kind of a colbination of thing and then eventually you startgiving up an yourself I'. Like I'm not worth this, I can't even do that andit's like a it s, something that starts out as very little, like a tempt like aa temporary put off of what I was doing in kind of my roadmap to use a betterword got pushed back, and then I just sort of let myself sleep. You Know Myow n mistakes and that sort of thing, so it was more of a reconciliation. Forme, an ultimately man like it was there wasa couple of weeks and there was some really moments where I was like. I feltcompletely hopeless and I felt I definitely not rock bottom, like it's avery old, you know 'm a long way from rock bottom. I wouldn't want to usethose words, but I felt like Ma. I can't keep living day to day like this,where I just I don't you know I just don't w like. I don't not just feelgood, but I don't want to do anything like it's R. You know really negativestuff sort of thing. So for me, what that brings out is accitential. I guessyeah. Definitely a little crisis in in theown sense and, like I don't want to, I certainly don't want to Pyou knowparticulate hat in the way that makes me seem like Iways, you know on on bodythe ropes and Min Awas. You know one other one thing from over, but yeah itwas kind of like t t that so that the stress of that situation kind ofbrought the decision. You know kind of brought a lot of you know where I hadto get a state of like I I'm out of control of my situation. Now I actuallyC, I don't know if I can help myself anymore. I need my external help like Ineed that, and obviously I have that Canivordi in play. Mand then from thereit was just a decision that Hay like in order for me to continue to get betterand keep getting better. I need to set myself to a certain standard, an inwhat what you know, what R, what the Bible kind of lays out and what thekind of the basic principles of Crishani lays out is a better way tolive your life and it was like okay. I neither go back and live my life better,not just for Abbey ND. She was a big part of it because having a daughterhaving a kid he's huge, but it's for the people around me and all my othermotivational things, but it was kind of getting to that point. Where Li me an Ihave a decision here. I can go one way and I can just ignore. What's going onand I can fail, you know I feel, like I'm a failure in life and just not dowhat I can or I can kind of get back on track. Ask for external help. You knowlet my ego aside and actually ask for the help that I need and then kind ofget back on track a little bit and because obviously I'll have theprebuilt faith in you know. In my you know, in God, in the billy to ask forhelp, that's a big thing too, but it was just it was a massive trigger. Itwas like man, I'm feeling really crappy and I need I need M. I need help. Ineed out of this yet kind of yeah. I hope that makes sense was that yourpisht s, Ta, yes, men, you did' enswer...

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This morning I was actally Supe, OAtaping. I tacetential. I was like that's what it is like if you going t,go o te pot like what am I doing? What did happen like? Where am I going withthis? You know, like you, start comparing yourself to other people and for me most of the time what happens itwas like O. I made a commitment to my like I. This is what I want to do, andthis is I'm happy to die doing this or I like M, I'm happy what my undersential thingwas like I' Goan to change t a word, but I'm happy to die trying. I neverfeel like a woolv change. The word so I'm happy to die trying, but it wasinteresting because I realize every time I go Ahey we lie. This is likethis is. What am I going to do? I'm like Wa and I just realized I was like.Well, I'm like God. I've got this thing that I've alray said it's always x andTis, always h, t one thing that I can go back to: it's always like littleglimmer of hope, which is not really hope, Nesper se, but it's always justthat anchor persy. I don't like Thebodanchorpers n in that sense, but so there's thatright and I feel like when anchor is just like someing stable, that you knowyen, Yeah, O R, deep in your call right, yeah, nothing and I feel like I feel like religionand one of the things r about religion is and actually despite the fact how what hisrelationship was with Christianity and catalyscalisit Catholic cause, soicismCaif, you fedric Mecha, actually saidthis. I saidth the problem. If RELIG RELIGION Wal fate an which,over the years it has because people have gotn too busy and a lot of thepeople, so many people spend so much time in Axcesstan shuld dread that isactually becoming n the norm. Now, in fact, so maybewe spend so much time inexcesental tread and they actually avoid it right, and I actually want toTuch on this actually funny enough, like for the past few days and myactually, my housemate I've actually been really good because we jumped on adiet, and we did this Righe for the once. I realized that I sort of decidedthat, like I knew this loomis thin, I kind of like SD punishing myself likeit was my fault that I wasn't like this whole ban. DEMIC whas happening if thatmakes sense, Edos that does that sort of make sense? No, I was were you like.Did you create like? Were you upset your reaction to something or were you?Were you almost blaming your situation, even though it was externally motivatedand it was brought on you haveguat blamen itself, forward a little one ofthe things and that's what I was saying so because, like my anchor has alwaysbeen very internals right and a problem with that internal anchor is sometimesthat it it's kind of Wha Jack of weakings books. Stok about is, like Itake a hundred percent ownership or most thinks right, even subconsciously.This whole panemic is going on and I took a hundred percent blame for it.Like I was acting in my head, I was internatly acting like I wasn't goingto gym it's. Like my fault, I'm not blike. I can't wreak it's my fault yeahan I it's super interesting because you know I th the problem with that is N.normally, if I blame myself for something I would fix it, but for thefirst time I was blaming myself for something, and there was nothing Icould do about it. IANSCOM I mean that's Sa IV act like te downside too,like even that stay hard mentality, the cold mentales we're not robots men likewee humans. We have Xit, we can't just yeah. We can't push these things awaylike we have to address these issues a little bit and and that's exactly andthe reason I wanted to bring and I'm going to quickly gre back into whatwe're talking about before. So what what I did was. I was actually wakingup noketing on my phone, just breaking swiping through videos wiping throughvideos on basebook, and I I spent very little time on facebookfor someone who has to work on pit like Al these Om, ICMEN, Rai timtime on myphone or average day. 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Those are the things that actually keepyou um keep I sane right and theyre, like kind of a hope or like the likelight at the end of the tunnel or like a greater reason, because I always saythis right, and this is what I said and this what I said as well before I saidit's always good to Beli, it's good to be a individual, but you will never gothere's only so far as a human for yourself. You can go because, but yousaid like forxamplesstic S, for example, like you know you you tell yourself ogo shop at the GM at five. Am You probably won't? But let's say if youstole your friend you're going o show u tha M at five mem, you more likely doit same thing when it's something becomes bigger than you like. You saidabout religion. You know you have to believe in it that much because it'snot about you, Anymar S, s, something bigger that ends up being giving youthe greater reason to keep going through all the adversity and all thosechallenges and all the all the K like scares of life and all those problemsso Anto this huge Alu that, as I think,that's whyt, I wanted to Jisco sort of like agree with that. In this massiveway, Li em o make expence why that is valid. Ta Pobesi. The problem withphones too, is like th they're great machines, but they do have a realimpact on you know on our psychology and on even or now you know, on ourdrenal system on our hormones on. You know our receptors like we're gettingthis confistant information, we're getting constant a little bit of Uforia little bit of you know little bit of good feelings. 'cause we've foundsomething funny or something h. We liked- and you know it's no surprise-that when we're you know when we're kind of being unproductive or we're notas as good as we can be like we go back to these phones and we try to get thata little bit and most of the time it's Ubconscious, but that's actually what'sgoing on, and that is the power of the phones that we have there and that'swhy it's obviously so important to be ou. Aware of that, but also aware ofthe amount of time that you spend on your phones and okay, I it's almostlike smoking in a weird way, like I stretched out now, I'm in a stretialsituation, somethings happen, my phone comes out and I storp scolling Freehthere so yeah that that's soing so practical andthat's something that we all do most. Definitely if you want a phone you dothat nearly every day, nearly every day, one hundred percent agree and like wwas,just a scide, no talke myacessential dread because most people may thinkthey're not in like going through this problem. What h what's happening isthey're doing exactly that they may be going through somethingdifficult, but they're just distracting themselves from even act and just keepon doing that suff. What th ends up happening is you're, not fixing eproblem because you're, not even thinking about the problems. So how areyou Goinna ever going Na fixure the problem because you're not thinkingabout it? Let Forget about o forget about anything because you're just toobusy. Even thinking about the problem. First, you gotta figure like Yo, knowto know to get treated for something you're Gong to the doctor and find outif you've got like to what freaking disease is right. I mean you can't justgo well s more: U to Bidios, because that will fucking, you know, drown outthe pain of like you know this m. So it is so much that we can go on hereand I think that's and and t that's a huge reason by I Iactually do think religion has over the Ese faded is because people have becomebetter at getting distracted, yeah and and not because the pain as lessonedand all those prol, then you now they don't need to believe in anythinganymore because they still do. I just think people found themselves if inefound things to distract just got better at distracting themselves. Yet,and you know in this big wide world we live into, there are more things thatyou could replace and put into like a godlike figure in your life. There'smore avenues to go down and there's more things to get interested andunderstand, and everything else. So, the you know the old old days of wherewe're very limited by a horse and carriage or by car. You know we don'thave as much of that. So it's kind of you know a natural kind of progressionin life right and Um and and that's based off. You knowthat's based of many a goood that we've had in life, but I think there'sobviously heaps Ho factors. Well its happened, but yeah your own presentright, like that's the biggest one. Is there ust so Naro things that we canpriotize in our life? NNTHATSI, that's and- and it's it'sreally interesting, because I think we it is really funny, because this wholeconversation is taken, as this is...

...almost more taboo than anything elseright now. Armen Thata wish theside would change right, she's such a Hu.This is so tapoo that speaking about this conversation is that Pusin, even Ifeel weird and I'm sure you feel l kind of feels like how is this moset tabooabout talking about, like I mean even take religion, is what we'retalking about her, but even take religion aside. But if we talk aboutthis aspect of the accidential rigt and your police system and what religionShou believe in, because Isis is more taboo than anything else,I mean everyone's standing up for everything at the moment, but no one isstanding up for and that's that's exactly what it is. I think L, everyoneis creating problems, and I've said this before and Lok. I think this iswhat kind of highlight in my Heniswo when you were talking about it. I thinkyou said something about Um. You know you always have the answer right. Theone other thing you always have. You can find the solutions in yourself andwant to say we always know the answer to everything right y. most of the time.Let's say you take up something, we know the answer, but we is jusfused to.We don't want to think about that answer I mean. Does that make sense.Yeah Yeah, O head Isaid, its an emotionaltrauma, toit, something difficultright that we know hod it go tourigt, yeah,yeah an and Robert Greenes book. Actually he writes about this is Ithink he goes in. I coels it. It's like the horse effect is whenyou've got the horse blinkers. Is that what they go on? 'cause you because youa sor like sepermen so clouded yeah like you, don't want to see those youdon't want to broaden your horizon, andit's very often that you canactually have that narrow vision and just go well. This is what's happeninghis I and you, and so often when you get angry as well, because you getangry is toff. We get angryet other people, you don't want to see anythingI mean if you ever have ever realized when you're angrythat you actually feel you actually feel yourself not being able to controlyourself because you go like I don't want to get angry. You can hear you onin one ROK and you go well. I don't want to be angry because you can feelthe damage being done right. You, like yeah O, doesn't it yeah yeah y you'reyelling at your partner, you're yelling at your mom and e C, but you knowthat's happening, but you can't S. I think nwths makes you not want t not one tocare about it right, even though you deeply very do and yea. You know thisperson, you didn't see him ever again. Obviously that would affect youimmensely, but it can definitely get to that stage where it's so powerful thatyou know better and you still don't you know you still continue to do it Hoon. I think yeah, that's definitely what happened to me. I that's PiritBecan to get really get scary. It does get scary when you know that that yeah, that's that's what I was talking aboutlike. I was because I feel like I've been through some similar go: Hey likeo a need to snap oultry to control that it its hard to control it Aso and a lotof the time. I'll tell you what it is. I feel- and I tell me if you agree here,do you think all of the time is actually shame yeah. I think so, like the Enabellio, forgiveyourself all the inability to Um overcome a situation, even ifforgiveness is not part of it, the ability then move on from it and notlet it be traumatic through every day. Just by thinking about it is shameval,it's regret, and sometimes the big shame is knowing that. I'm probablygoing to do it again and that's where you know that's where we need tounderstand that as human beings we're imperfect and we're going to continueto make similar very similar mistakes, almost identical mistakes over and overand over again, and that's kind of part of the life that we actually live inthat something we need to learn to accept as difficult as it may seem.Obviously you know if you do a really bad thing like learn your lesson oncelike. If you do something really bad, you feel like crab like that. You feellike Cret, for a reason, because, there's you know your subconsciousmindings Tellin, like we car, keep doing this. I ose we're gonna you'regoing to lose me and I'm not going to be here anymore. You're just going tobe a machine who can just do you know, be a brign. I think that's how socipasshappened, like you know, that's kind of a little bit of a controversial topic,but at the end of the day, like my belief or e Yeah, my belief is inwhat's what's spoken about, and what's taught is that everyone is created inthe perfect image of God, so everyone is perfect at birth. No one has likethese. Even no people have certain brain chemistry in different situationslike they have that there for a reason like I know, people that had reallydifficult life situations, they had a certain quote, unquote issue as a kid.Their brain chemistry was different, but this you know this ability tobecome obsessive or to have that certain characteristic allow them toget through that trauma. So I kind of believe, that's you know, that's kindof all deliberate, but I don't whall. I guess what I was trying to say is: Idon't think anyone's born a social path. No one's born with those tendences, Ithink thes. 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So if you have that understanding before you go into, itactually makes a lot more sense than just these random words coming together.So that's real, yes, tlat's, good advice, yeah, absolutely and and like that was one of my reasonsbecause I was like. I was thinking about something and I had a taughtBreton I was going through and I was like hold on a minute like I rememberlooking and I was like away hold on. Let me look that up as a reference,because then ID noted it down. There's a foot left Tis a footdon CIGAA. That'san interesting thing to remember, because that is exactly what happenedwhen we sort of farm going to that dread. Orflix, shame kind of situation,N, interesting enough! I I actually watched a movie earlier today and therewas two part o whic, I'm sure youare heard of it is called transporting.Have you heard of ALOCON NA the mamalcom transporting trainsporting yeah it? I not yet it's it's by the writer it's by the directordenny boil. 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You know whether you believe- and Iknow you sort of that was a part where you did say Um. You know if you believe in Jesus that, if youbelieve in God that means you have to believe in the devil, which is onehundred percent of wit, ite, it's one of those things right where, even ifyou don't you have to bully it in the balance, either way Thee Agie in dn,you knownpoativity, like think of it Li that way, if that makes a mot moresense, like those negative fourts that you have in the positive feelings andthoughts you have as well. That's that's essentially what it is it's justall I'm doing when I say God is. I'm putting three letters a word, I'mputting three letters together and making a sound with my mouth, butthat's really what it represents. That's that's! That's one undredPECENTA and that's wat this like say well, wo. You know we talk about it somany different times and like Oles, see and I've s sort of said this before,because when people talk about religion, it's so interesting because people go-and this is something I noticed before s well, Nota was when go hey. Wel likethis. Is You KN W? You say you call your God, God, and you mentioned this-is Li. Well, you know you're calling you God and you know w you. I inIslamwe call him La and you know then you've got you know Buda and like Ohreally, if you look at the core of them they're all pretty similar, like youknow, if you believe in a higher power and like that's what you said Likk atthe beginning, like you know, that's what you're really talking about and you you can't really deny you know likeyou- could go well, hey like in reallyu. Look at you go well, you know you gottabelieve in something and you can't really go, and this is one of thethings with thism like when they we talked about 'm, not saing. It isanything wrong with it. Hes mutting, often people don't actually know theybelieve when they say I'm Atheas, the O, actually Kno whet. I Cen Abot Yeah Yeah.They don't actually know what they're talking about yeah, because many people have met who actually callthemselve Tis have actually no clue. They go well actually believein. Well,then, you're not need e, like the simulation yeah seems like yeah, likeGe, a rule, you actually bea you're at good point. You won't actually meet toomany people. That say, I just believe, there's nothing like once we die, wedilike that existence most people, particularly an I feel like there's,been a big push in Um in conversation recently aboutbelieving in you know, kind of something external to what Wer, whatwe're dealing with and it's labored very differently and it's talked aboutenergy and how ere all interconnected and that sort of thing. So I think mostpeople j St Eve, don't know or they yeah they don't like they. Don't yousee it? Is it just yeah? I think I think often often very often we look atthings so in our own diluted way like quickly just talking about that, likewhat you said like when you go. Oh, were all connected right and I go heylike that kind. O Makes Sense, because we all collected, like I mean at ascientific level, we talk about how Hemanli you know we die. We go throughthe whole cycle of like ending up becoming part of the earth. 'CAUSEenergy. It's called the Um, the matter Um. I always forget the name, but it'sa law of it right, cononsation, th, consibition, thoso basically meanswhatever eist the size. The weight of the matter never changes, because it'sall just like you know, you burn, you burn a killer off wood, basically riteto a wood that will turn into like you know, ivhundred grams, so smoke and therest will termininto Fiban gronds of...

Ashnic. Nothing ever gets destroyedright, so win that send you go hey like we all linked. Well, then again, alsoin Cristianti we say you know we all children of God right. So it's it's.It's really yumman point of view. So for anyone, the reason I what I wassaying this is LEXPR. Anyone to go. Hey, wile, your police are wrong. Well, no,you, you know you re. Just people have different views and different believes.That's fun. You can never say someone's believes are wrong. Yeah, so thats Jus Yah, you can yeah. You cannever blatantly like. You can certainly have open conversation and openconversationis. The best thing to have, and you can you can formulate your ownopinions and that sort of thing but um. Ultimately, everyone has the freedom inas humans has the freedom and deserves the right to have the freedom of choiceand that's what we all have to respect. Even if wou disagree we all have and noyea. If you come out from that angle and if you are dismissing people forwhat they believe you know, even though it feels very natural at times where Igo this this, you know this. It's that's not good, like that's, not agood way to think, because you're you're, almost putting yourself aboveother people and ane thing for sure that we can all agree on is us ashumans. We're all equal men like wheere. All damake was no ones penrn in elseworld. I actually wentfor the e the first timein the portcast. Despite the fact I always quot I caught books like Bible,I caugt the oldhe philosopher actually want to caught my mum here right 'cause.My Mum actually said so. My Mom said to me 'cause. I was talking about Islam.Onc I was like well, you know is the kind of views people have a wistom. Shegoes well the they have a view of a very small amount, small and smallgroup of people who do not represent Islam or Muslems right very loud, small group of people who donot robsent? U But identify themself as whether for the profit of you knowwhether, for this whole scenario, the beneficial of the machine for themachine to work and they're, very loud people, and that's why Islam guess thename it does and Samething with Christianity Ov the years people go.Hey like this is what Christianity is like. You know you think of like you,nothej jokes, that get made our netlender and all those kind ofscenarios rihe. But the key remmketing to remember is those are the very smallgroup of people who are just loud and obnoxious and that's what's always beenas BOT, no manter. Where you look, it's always that small group, that's whythey call it the quiet majority or the. I you know, that's what they callbecause majority of the People Ni in fact t nineteen nine percent. Thequestion you meet were probably the sweetest people, you mead, nine. Ninepercent of the mosoms you made will be serious people you meet in fact, ninet.Nine percent of the Human Guind is sweet and Nice Right. That's what I'msaying, but that one person who is just well like we said you know some peoplethey no they're, no poon packed up, but they er the years more of hecircumstances or whatever you know, behavior. They went through whateverchoices they made to end up being these people and they feel the need to puteveryone through the dreat, because, because they're always going throughthis tread and it's like the whole situation, let's say: If you do like, have you ever realized? If you dosomething fucked up, it makes you feel better. If someone else is doing thatthing fucked up with you, they fuckd nothing with you now hundred percnte Ya, a hundred percent.How and that's what I wanted to say and I said a lot of the times the reasonwit we vewse on religion and the t the has ha like that is because of thoseyou know very small percentage, all those bastens who have comen yeah O onthat. Where did that come yeah W W et is a light wot baby ISATEDA.But now that's a hundred percent yeah an unfortunately is human nature. Likeyou know that th, the negative often you know, shines above the eighty,ninety percent positive a little bit. We focus on, and you know that's Um,you know that's so many people don't like the K, K use. So many talk, somany quites out of from the Bible out of context and Hitley did the samething like so many things like this is well before the war on terror and whereso many people like that was significant M, an the amount of peoplethat were antislam off that like not even comparable. So that's what we all an at the other day.Man, like everyone, has the right to theiropinion and if one has the right to reacting to sech situations veryquickly, but if you spend more than a couple of days or a few weeks,believing something like that, like this person is thisentire group of people because of asmall portion of people are wrong and their evil, then ye there's a lot moreunlesse famidia than we judge a more war Thaois, exactly easis, Temidia, F,the Al Bastards Yeah they're, all bastard guys, but IAC ththey they'retied to the their bloodyall outdated, miss modelen. As we like to say, B,they're dying, they're, screaming it's...

...slowly falling and failing you seehuman nature. Unfortunately, sometimes Ri, you see, you see e the floows andpeople when those sort of things they justed they're going all in now atleast they're they're still not onest. So you know they're all pricks anyway,but man. I really just you know it's one of those things where I neter stopdlike stretching myself out about it. But I want more people to Frigg andrealize, like there till smany people that like take this stuff as the Gospepand take this stuff is like word and like just because Theye they're on on tV and they got there like men. This thing this thing's been cropd for solong. You know, there's been s financial, it's just like politics.There's been so much money into it for so long that this bing hasn't beenright for forty years and you guys are still you know, but hey the other day,men when come had first started. I was watching a lot of the news too 'cause Iwas like Hm. I went from wanting to know what happened to like me and Ican't fregging turn off this crap, but then I was say e, I as O say, but thethere's one more thing tust quickly. I on touch on it, which is interestingbecause and this I learned about people right and especially working inwotdaughter and working with Facebookin like working on media, not media. Sorry,working on marketing like this is one thing I leard most people don't really like talkingabout that kind of stuff right. They don't want to hear anything that theyhave to really think about, but they will. They will easily listen thingsthat they can get behind without putting too much hore into it wit solike. If it's completely mapped out they'll be like yeah I'll get yeah I'llget behind it anything they have to think about and then change their wayof life. Yeah t becomes too difficult. This that's what you look at, what thewhole thingof thing with climate chain. You'd look at! Look at that right,everyone's, like you clima chain, but no one wants to change their life likeevery everyone's e climing chame, but noon was actually changed. Their live.No one is changing their life. It this Yu, samething wout. You look at M,what's happening with Um all th. You know equality, movement andY. You look at what people are doing. Althe way, you know Ohey, let's pullpull all these things down, cancel this person canceld that person. Those arethe easy part because an easy Parson because they just seem like Avedog GonGod an something without actually changing people's lifestyles. Eni B,there is one last Puck of this air tot PRA thought I want to do ihtlet thatone out and I've got a little bit o f a Contr, controversial opinion to theletter I ni. Ilike is sons, get sons Gat for like Gfsan, Oh gotto, like somecountis, so one of my thought paterns was O and just a Io like I do want to say like I,I want the word to be a better place right. That's all my goal: Yeah, that'sO rid a yeah, that's my namber! What I one thing I do want to say, though,very often we always try to fix the MAKRO issues. Right, like were Tryn tofix, like hey. Let's speak like this old bunch of group like nothing, wetalked about this last portcast bride Um, but in order to to fix problems, itstarts with you. It starts with the micro does't, never work with. He macro,like I said you know you do by is India's economy shit. Maybe it'sbecause you don't have enough, you don't have the toilets in school, Gorls,Tolian school hat's. What thing like? It's crazy to think about that problemsthat you, if, in order to fosolve major poems, you have to fix microproblem ina large scape? That's that's! That's how the true solutions come across,come through like evbody like disadvantaged youth, Liall TNA, certain n population in Australa, like there's,always mass talk about that and how how theyre you know thes they're!Unfortunately, that's the way that society is still designn to be honest,ith! It's knowledge that I don't know, so I don't really know how toanardiculation that's kind of one prime example F, why they're stilldisadvantaged in twoentd and twenty, that's and the'll just quickly touch onthat and then I'll. Let you take over one tho thing so e a why why media islike that is because I I don't exactly know, don't know what the microprobemthere is, but I presume it has something to do with. I can makeassumptions Hay something to do with the fact that everyone is too lazy tofind information on Theo. They just you know so har. Do we as thesociety go? Hey? Okay? U W! FFUCK! You I'll go, find TI MYSELF! Ind ofsituation. We will need someone to go. Hey like this is what's happening, butwhat kind of sense comes through w? Do we start turning to more individualecause at the moment? I honesty think right now, which is it's probably causeof habit? That's why they're not going away and we allnow you take away a hundred percent hundredecent andthat's what we can all get better man. We've got such a great resource outthere, where we can look up so many different things and figure thesethings out and at Le Anyway. That's right! That's rigt! We're going to have to go back to theLibrary Bon we'r Gotto have to hold o Ho hold yeah I as ill do this did Yo Verri, probaly ut, you don't know untilyou know you don't realize who realis, but I what I believe in this is myopinion that humans were put on this...

...earth and this earth serves humid. Soyou know we and it's not the other around. So the Earth does not service,we don't as people. We aren't. You know. Mother Nature is not our king, likewhere humans are the number one on this earth or reason does 't mean fro crap.You know in t in the ocean and Dal this thing: Take Care of our homes, takecare of our belongings. We all own a part of the earth, but I don't think Ithink it's the wrong opinion to believe that the earth is tne number one we'rejust here were just here to service the earth. It's still the other way round.We still have to take care of our bed and we still have to make our bed andeverything else but um. I think as humans, like whe, where number ontheearth it's not like 'cause. I unfortunately have heard a little bitof the talk about. You know a good thing like all this. You know lack ofbusiness and everything else. That earth has had an ability to recover andall this pollution- that's not going in the year and then I've even heardpeople say this covert was the best thing that ever happened to the world.It's like Wellys, I destroyed at least disabled a lot of the beautiful thingsof humanity for a while, like hope and love, and all that sort of thing. Sothat's that damage has far outweighet anything else. That's counted, O yeah.I think that's, probably how I look at that, but anyway, at discuss. Disgust N,actually, not even you but like in people that are listening like even youknow, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that, but I think that's altimately,like a hard truth that I think we have to Wm. we have to change our thoughtabout it, a little bit. No, that makes sense. That makes sense absolutely andI think thes. The interesting thing is this is what I do want to say, though.However, the way we th the CL, we have obviously donethings that we should, and that goes in fact, if you look at Christianity andlike any of the religion, they talk about being more r right, you know, l, you Adon' or Wor, consume resourcesof any kind yeah. Really, I'm yeah. You don't really need and th that goes backto thing like what's happening with fashion like past fashion. Is You knowyou look at plasspetion? It's like well men. Do you really need like Ilike? Youknow at the rate that came out Pu, santicias right, you talk about allthis pasation. I mean a little that is unnecessary, like you know it it'sunnecessary, but because- and the funny thing is- We've actually goten ourselvein this trap. Right, because let if you look at how this whole situution works,if the ex person didn't actually need that many clothes, because B persongoes well, I don't care how many close o you have like. You know to the wholeTistoke and we still have the same amount of money and we still have thesame onenrichment, but we just don't actually do this damage, which isunnecessary because you know we need six white dishets Abou. The six days ofthe week and Tem Medayyou be wear a black onewhite yeah. That's what I'msaying you know. So some of that is unnecessarily, which doesn't even makesense. Why people do it and same thing with you know like same thing with likeI don't you K W. I don't think I will never stop eating meat. Probably younever know. I certainly hope GOI will be ill. We there swe I'll come down, sowe can for Thethe Mabe. I do io. I was just Saig. I won't start mes like ever what I an Gon here, Lik Ho'll, say laisons for it.Yer WHUT II mean unless Abon Day I justwake up, go no, I can never eat met again. I certainly hope not, but youknow 'cause love a good stake right by BETTERAN. By but, however, I would say,t o at the rate we consume. 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Youknow enough Dari and enough meat, you know so these issues are going to come.But if we take care of the earth- and we you know- we don't overpollute likewe- The temperature's not going to rise, and all this thing like we're going tohave the ability to have our winters in our summers and all that sort of thing.So it's definitely it's definitely like you're. Not Dismissing. You know theworld but also understand yeah like we are the priority here for a reason and-and I think the overindulgence like it's easy to do- it's almost likespending money. Just because you have it like you feel like I, I've gotthebile to go to the shop and buy a hapeload of things I'm going to well.You know just yeah, just be a little bit more conscious to that, need whatyou have you're, not going to eat as much then you're not going to be. Youknow, you're not going to be thirty. Thirty kill. I was always going to say:Yeah you're not going to be fifty killing EU white. 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