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In the Episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast, Aneeqe & Lachlan talk about the values and one's faith. We talk about religion, belief and support systems.

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And thank you all for joining us. Welcome to episode number eighteen of the clever dummies podcasts. I am one half of the hosting, the fabulous hosting duo locky. Thanks for joining us and they caw you going today. Brother, I'm good, my man, I'm good. You know, it's a beautiful day in all off the word. I hope. Yeah, man, I think we're all. Yeah, they were all in the same boat a little bit. So hopefully everyone out there is doing really well wherever you are listening to us far and wide, many a far and wide, and I guess, before we get into it, might we are very well. We do have a presence on social media. We might not be the most active, but you know, one one foot in front of the other. So check us out, man. Obviously so many good ways to listen to us. Probably the best way, the easiest way, you don't have to download nothing, is straight through the website. But obviously spotify, Google play, a lot of people use those apple podcast lot of ever use those channels. So yeah, definitely check us out on there. Give us a subscribe on any of those platforms. Maybe a little plug, nice little comment. Tell us how good, all bad we're going and of course find us on this usual social channels, facebook, twitter, instagram, clever dummies podcasts. There we go, we got on out of the way. Mate, I guess you know the easy question is, how are you going? And it's a shit answer because it is a shit question. But how, I guess over the last couple of weeks might we felt obviously all the action going on down particularly in Victoria, and you know, you can get into it as much as you want because you know the same shit every day. But how sort of everything that's been played out recently going, and you know, the Road Map, this and that and all that they all adopted in's, you know, fantastics of how you go on? Anyway, brother, I'm good. I'm good. I'm still holding my spirits up much as I can. There's look, it's not easy because, given the fact that, if you really take into the consideration, if you live in Victoria, you've really been kind of a looked on situation for almost like, I think you would be like five months altogether, six months altogether. That's a long time to be just being home. And I was thinking about the my own road map back and what's going to happen and how I'm gonna like what's my situation with a job and obviously, what I'm going to do with business and all those stuff, all those fabulous things. You know, it's confronting to think about those things, specially knowing that we still in this regardless of the fact that, you know, even start thinking about the future. But you know, obviously we are in in this kind of lockdown for least another month. Yeah, that's looks like right. And I mean I guess the positive thing is a little bit of a human spirit and the as his spirit up here. You know, most people I'm having conversations with their eva saying something like, you know, I'm glad I'm not in Melbourne, but I certainly feel really bad for the people put down there because, you know, it's been a real prolong extension of the time. And I didn't really look too much at the press conference. WAS THERE ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE? was there anything productive that you felt that were going on there? I know we spoke about it yesterday. It seemed like they were kind of just, yeah, throw on Shit at all and hoping for the best. But well, take anything away from it, I did. I mean it makes sense what Dann and is doing. It's really interesting because there's so many angles and I know we've got a bit of a topic today. Will segue into that, but I'll get go into that a little bit of the whole coronavirus situation. What my point of view on the whole situation is. First of all, I do want to say I am I really want to get out, like I want to go go out and meet my catch up with my friends. I want to work, I want to get, you know, work moving, I want a job and I want to do all those fabulous things off, you know, doing things of humankind, because it's really interesting. It's until you do nothing, because you realize how the value of those, all those little things, I mean the opportunity to work right and all those things. So there's me. So I am definitely I'm not saying that I'm not one of those people saying well, it's okay, just put us in looked offers. I mean I understand the necessity. However, I mean I'm not happy about it, but I'm not angry at Dan Andrews or the government because they're doing what's required. I do have a however, one a note, because a lot of people have been calling Dan and his dictator and all this stuff right and given. Keep in mind, I mean he's got full control of the state and stay on top of that, he's got the state of I'm urgency passed through for another six weeks, I believe, and then on rolling basis from there. That means he's get he gets full control of the states and state and no one really says the thing to him. They can't really and obviously the federal government can't read. I mean they can't step in through certain methodologies, but that will if they did, that would cripple the Australian economy and all those other political sad things that come along with such force of power. That kind of gets pushed on and I don't think federal government would step in. So that...

...there is that. That's my first point of view. The second second thing going into that is the fact that when you think about everyone saying or Danny and drews is a dictator and he's just keeping us in all that first fall. I just want to note if all these people can hang around and, you know, basically say all the opinions they have of Dan Andrews so publicly, just as a good example, that he's not addicted, otherwise everyone would buy say something my S. definitely try you some some dude went to prison. I'm not sure exactly how accurate this story is. It's one of those buzz feed Internets Roy Guinda situation. This this guy, I think, went into bridge, went to prison in North Korea because he took a picture of the statue of the Dick, what the supreme least of North Korea ahead but bub but or something like that. It's hilarious. It's a crazy story over there. Like what goes on? Like they have an annual kind of there. I guess they quit on over there. Australia Day and it's like a national day of mourning for King John L John All ill, I think that's Kim John Un's dad or grandfather what it was, and like it's an open morning day, so like you'll be out in public and you'll have to mourn physically, and there's been recounts from sort of there's very few journalists that have been able to get in, but there's a few that have. You know, it's actually quite an interesting documentary. I can't or it was called. There wouldn't be too many out there but he was able to actually get in there and go for it all and explain how it went. And like people were getting physically beat in the street for not crying hard enough because old might die a hundred years ago. So so yeah, there we're certainly a fair way off that. And and I mean even another case in China, like the two thousand and eight Olympics, like you remember when that was. Obviously Beijing back into it twitters and eight, when I was getting built a few years earlier, like there were people that the way they do it over there is like, Hey, we're going to put a, you know, stadium here. If you live here, if your house is here, will buy you out, you know, super cheap, as they normally would, and you got to go somewhere else. Will there was a lot of people that were rested because they refused to relieve their homes that were just getting put in there, so because the stadium. So I mean, you know, we could certainly a little bit of perspective. Sometimes guys goes a long way, but you know, I certainly understand people being frustrated. So it is what it is. A little bit right, one hundred percent. That's what it is in fact, funny you said that maybe this is a story front of the podcast. I actually met a person. In fact, actually ace spent few a bit of time with this one particular person who is actually one of the guest of the Supreme Leader of North Korea, and I think I've mentioned this to you. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that I don't know it or really I got to tell you about so, yeah, he, this person is gone. Yeah, so this sparticular is not well. Through a friend of a friend, this guy's a old guy. Right, he's not young, it's not my joy's not a journalist, but he's like I mean of sort of ex business typhoon, if you will write. He's into all trading in all the goal those great kind of things. You he's all school businessman when they were the real, you know, the cool kind of Jee yeah, the orgies. Yet so he's Prettian man. I mean I think he's he would be in his late seventies now, but great shape. But yeah, he's like a guest of the supreme leader all the time. He just flies in and not like with no. It's incredible. That's a whole and he was telling me it's a whole nother word out there. It's a whole nother planet. Like whatever you think you know, it's you don't. And it's interesting because what he's this is a specking and once again, I don't even know if I should be saying this public because who knows, all of ours get taken out by end of the day. But he said, he did say he goes. The thing is with the North Korea is the fact that people they don't know different. So, yeah, that's the life to them and it's not that they necessarily sad and they are suppressed. That's their lives, if that makes sense. And obviously a lot of external stimuli doesn't actually make it in there. So there's not much. You know, different movies and you don't really see what's going on in round the world. So yeah, it's a whole interesting fact. But you did you know that the what's in the Kim John He actually studied at in Switzerland, I believe, or Canada. So it's only one of those one again. Yeah, while he's there, is still alive. He was out there. Yeah, that's right, that's right. High Life was HMM, is living the high life. Apparently, was into basketball and all those. I almost I was trying to think of the guy's name. He played like in the well, yeah, he was. Why did that dude to northree lassary in the Chicago pools in the nineties, like the lesser game of order, Pippin and those guys. Yeah, it's Ron something or Sarts of mights that went up. But he's known as a real bad boy, like a real wild man, and just randomly. It's such a random connection. But yeah, he's gone in there all the time and in all up. So obviously all boy or boy knows what's going on and he must have some he must have a serious hit list, like he's wife. This must be seriously. Hi,...

I'man over there. It's crazy. So Hey, I mean, yeah, as we said before, that interesting. You know, a little bit of perspective helps there. And what one thing I thought of before we get into I guess what we'll want to discuss that today. We'll talk about it yesterday, and I didn't know a lot about it either, and you certainly did. It was obviously the you know the news we've been hearing about Google in Australia and certain legislation in things that you know, data that the strane government wanted to get and all that sort of thing what, obviously we've heard a fair bit about. That could explain a little bit more. Yes, it's good. Do we list going to quickly wrap up on the Kobyn? Is that you show go straight into this? Yeah, I guess. What. What else is there to say? That's good boy, good boys, stay strong out there, dudes. Actually know there's there is one point that I wanted to make and as an interesting perspective, I heard Bro I'm so bad at remembering people's names. He's an online he used to be like a big time radio DJ. He does like all kind of the online equivalent. Now I can't ever remember his name is. I will remember it by the end of the PODCAST, but he's a really good dude. Like he has, do you know the like the impact theory, like Tom Bill? Ye, yeah, it's kind of like that equivalent of a show, but it's mainly focused on politics and he had a guest on and they were talking in depth about it and kind of about the whole situation. And this is kind of again the perspective of where we're all at at the moment. Is Like we you know, I guess that's initially we will obviously really concerned and we're still concerned. But the predictions of how bad this thing was going to be, the amount of people that going to affect and ultimately kill was predicted, you know, a lot higher. was kind of around one percent of the global population. You know, now it's well below point one and all that sort of thing. So I think what's kind of going on a little bit is obviously government's wanting to play it safe and not wanting to be liable for reopening and then things sort of falling apart again. But I think the original numbers in the the medical evidence that we were going off has so quickly out doubted itself that. But governments aren't willing to own up to that. They're not willing to say, Hey, we got bad advice or, you know, we sort of what overcautious. Were going to push forward, we're going to reopen things. Now, we're going to try to figure out get back to the way it was and kind of play of a little bit, not less safe and less conservative, but we kind of going to just pull out bloody fingers out of us and actually take this thing for what it is and know who it affects. So I think really that's what's happening. I think people were not willing to jump to that conclusion yet, but I think it's going to be productive for everyone if we kind of like own up and say hey, like this thing actually isn't as bad. Let's get some good news out there, and that's not just get like for new cases in new like bronisiphile's terrible, like you guys are actually have something to stress about. For new cases. One spot in central coast pub closed, like it's the first thing you hear. So I was like, you know, that's that's all the media there itself. But I think that's it kind of time to address what is kind of going on now and get to a stage now where we can actually you know, we don't we they're so certain or waiting for this vaccine now that that's kind of where I get a little bit worried about it and what we secured eighty four me and doses of this thing. So it's good to know Australia is going to be one of the first developed countries that are going to be, you know, in that sphere of opening things up, but I don't think this thing is as bad that we need to have mandatory vaccines or everyone needs to be vaccinated before we get back out. I think it's like con trow the small percentage, all the certain percentage of the population that have underlying health conditions that are at risk, and then everyone else can kind of get back rolling. But Hey, that's only my two cents onmer twenty four year old bloody you know should what do I know? Well, that's exactly look I think that and that's something I just want to quickly touch on as well before which I wouldn't get a chance to. What I was going to say was it once again and looking at Victoria, and they were looking Victoria because I am sitting in Victoria. One of the things they said they did whole bunch of modeling. Right now, I can touch on this because someone who actually studied data and knows data right. So I can actually touch on this because he said that we did all this data modeling and this is the results we got and this is what the prediction is. However, there is one thing that is missing right there is one thing that is missing from the data modeling. DNA modeling is working of the worst case scenarios of the worst case scenarios, right, not the worst ones case, know, but yeah, it's working on the scenarios that it will be expetential of spread of the coronavirus or however, what the data modeling is missing is the human behavior, and they need to actually basically saying, you know, I most businesses want to stay open. They will follow the rules because they don't want to be closed down. That's what I'm saying, right, if they follow the rules and most people would actually and they will be. Also, a huge percentage of people would still won't even go out, despite the fact that they're allowed to God, just because they are afraid. So if you keep those into my data modeling, and I know they have, would have not given that into thought because that, no, it's not logical to put that in there. However, it is. It is when you're talking about human logic. I this is the biggest problem that we always have in done...

...a modeling of different yeah, it's all right, point, humans are we they react. They don't react how they should. So, for example, let's say every if we open tomorrow, I can guarantee you not everyone would go out because they will be with those people who just go well, we're talkfer it to go out. There'll be other people who be like, well, we should mediate. So there's always that right. So you got to keep done into a kind of modeling so that these a lot of that when and obviously it's the virus. I'm not saying the virus is bad. However, I do think there's a control to it and there's different ways to it. But then again, you know, like you said, what do we know? When they've got they could possibly help, possibly, maybe legally have experts working on this. So well that try, but that's a difficult thing. Like you can easily take the you know, the conspiratorial angle, and I don't like to call it that all the time because for a lot of time it's people that are, you know, kind of similar minded to what we are. And there certainly are a people that I've spoken to that are, you know, extremely the other way and you know, this thing is completely artificial and it's nonsense in the it's their way of control. So I think that happy MEDOM has to be taken the consideration and there's always going to be that portion of the population that just that's the way they look at things and I always stick by that question everything, including the truth. Like just keep questioning things and try to count with your rational decision. And I guess that's where I am now with it all. But you know, we're all kind of or over talking about it, but that's probably the one way to look at it, because it's very present and here and he can't just push it away and pretense not here. You can actually keep having these conversations and finding similar people, and I think most people are pretty similar minded right now. Like as if that's people worried. I don't think anyone's, you know. And then there's other people that are on the other side to so, and then we get into the ethical decision of vaccinations and all that sort of thing, like that's day deep orders. Again. It's definitely deep orders there, but I don't think we're certainly not at that stage yet where that conversation needs to occur at all. Yeah, I think, I mean, I think we're so we're in a good country for it anyway. I think we're going to be trade a pretty fairly. We are less absolutely. I mean there's a lot of like you can always speculate. I mean that's the best we can do is speculate and the worst you can do respects between the two. I mean the media does it right, they are the one really, I mean, if you think about it, and this is the perfect seguere to going to our next quick little chat of media, it's actually the you talk about mass media, the way they do it, and they basically, in fact, they're the ones who actually making the whole situation way worse because they reporting on the things that they shouldn't be and the making the things sound worse than they are and sometimes not actually giving the right numbers and a lot of the I mean the Times they give. So basically, I don't know. In Victoria, most of the time the numbers get reported, right, I said be forty four numbers. Right. However, on out of the forty four, like you know, let's say eight of them are re classified. So really the numbers like thirty something right, but the media would pick the higher number to report on so or something others. So whatever they do, they actually doing just always selling that. For your kind of situation, then you know they're making money out of it. Like it just like anyone else. I mean, and that's another problem with this whole Kobe nineteen situation that actually worries me the most is how many people did how many things while we were all too busy focusing on the kobed nineteen Goin stuation, right. Yeah, with which actually brings us, brings me to the topic that you were just touching on, is actually google versus Australian, Australian media and Australia. I really I mean, have you looked much into it? Yeah, a little bit. I haven't gone too deep into it yet because I to be honest, I knew it was maybe going to be a field that you're going to be interested in, and I get a much better understanding of it from you anyway. Like that kind of is what it is. Yeah, but and it's probably like a situation of like right place, right time, like we're I actually don't have the energy to look at it, you know, maybe as much as I like, but I know it is the Australian government wanting control of the what sixty percent of the data or something like that? On top of they what they want. Actually, I guess before you go into what's really going on, maybe you should do that in the their way around. Like why would why would this Straian government want to propose to facebook and Google that, hey, we want greater control of your your resources and what you guys possessed, while would they want to take or take some of that off the you know, the countries, although those operation strip the Australian met or still the media companies called them all. What are the the the big bullies, the big yeah, fair fans, yes, fear facts of the stuff. Yeah, so you talking about the you know, got the channel lines in the all those, all those people, right, and they, I think they lobby it into I think Senate they called, yeah, the little bit into send it and they basically and and gone and said, Hey, well, you know what, the all these platforms have come out and our policies of ACM or Australian standards, of whatever is called broadcasting standards or the media standards, haven't been out in the act. Might, yes, that's what it is, AMCOACM, whatever it is. Right. So they basically all be done. There's the am okay, trying communication and...

...media or on that from the bloody yeah, the radio. That's right, that's exactly right. So they've gone to them and said, well, you know, they haven't been updated and we don't think it's a plane field of playing because right now google gets everything, facebook gets everything, we get nothing. Really, what's happening is, and this is this is straight up. I'm going to be honest here, because I've never liked media company. So orvis it. Take it as you will, because I might be being subjective here, like so look into it yourself. Media companies have never kept those companies didn't keep up with time. Unfortunately, they're losing the monopoly and their but but hurt about it. So the second best thing they could do is bully the competition. The bully. That the thing. The problem with monopolies is they need to realize sooner or later another monopoly will take over. That's how the game works. Are Unfortunately, but they they don't want to get they don't want to get. Let go off there like, you know, Nice cars and they're fat stomachs and all those, you know, all those things right, because they want theirs. They want to keep the all that control. And right now you look at how much controlled media is, basically has because of the old copy nineteen situation, because we're getting all our news from them. They want to keep that control. But what has happened is one of the what they said. This is what this is what they want. What they want is they want greater control of the data so they can actually make more money, because what they're saying, they're not making any money and cause no one watches TV and all the what, only way they can get their news out to people and they can get their media out to people is through online google, right on Google Platform. But now they feel like, well, Google owns everything, so we want, you know, we want the piece, bigger piece of the Pie, because you know. So they basically jumped up and down. So what has happened is they go, well, this is the situation and they're going to and then, basically, the student government has put it to Google and goes, well, what you need to do? What the media companies are asking for is sixty percent more in AD revenue, more control over so they want there. They want Google to review, expose or basically share their algorithms. So what basically allows a video to rise to the top? So they want the Google's algorithms as well. Keep in mind Google's algorithms are proprietary to proprietary technology. So Google conscious share that, because that's what makes Google Google one of the biggest thing. I don't know if you people know this. Google's biggest strength is the algorithms, none of that other stuff. They majority of the incomes is ad revenue. Google is actually advertisement and marketing company, not a technology company, believe it or not. Yeah, a little fact that. That's a great perspective here. That's that's what they are. I mean Google makes for you think Google makes phones? They don't. Mean that's a small amount of money. They just make it so they can put their Google search on it. That's a really why make it? you think Google makes all those APPS? Is giveaway everything for free so people use Google search. That's where they make money and the advertise. Google is a marketing company. That's all it is and they've always been and that's how they make money. And so what the Australian companies asking for? The asking with sixty percent more in AD revenue than what they're getting right now. So I think it roughly equates to up to sixty million dollars per annum. I believe will actually more. Probably I'm not exactly sure. It might actually be more. Might be sixty million dollars a month or sometimes something it's secs to be any maybe that might yeah, it's exactly I get. Yeah, it's a strawberry like. It's a huge amount right, it's a huge amount. I can't I don't remember the figure, but it's a huge amount. So that's what they want now and they want the control and they want the informational of keypers key person of interest. So what that means is if the Australian media, you know it lets a certain media company, decides they want to target Lacklan for certain x y said, Google will be made to hand over your data to them because they want it. So that's really I mean, it's horrible. And what that means is what that means they'll control. If they get control of the algorithms, they their stuff will be seen first. They will basically go back to what the days used to be, where the only way we got any information and anything through through basically medias, and they will control it again. All over those murders and all those things. And on top of the top it off, all, top it all off, they're doing doing the same thing to facebook. Now. The problem with the facebook is that's a major hit for whole bunch of businesses, because I don't know if people notice our business advertisement is not what it used to be. Used to be, used to have to advertise. We media companies like the TV, used to pay hundreds and thousand dozos media. Now you can pay, you can run a add for fifteen dollars and you can get sales out of it. But if it goes back to those guys, they will be actually have a bigger control over, you know, if they'll have bigger control over what gets seen. And then again, the way it works is there's only so much content that can be seen by people, right, because there's way more content than they is actually people. So if their content is sitting always at the top, so people who are making videos, like we're making podcast the things will share won't be seen by anyone. Just be those guys. Yeah, so the downsize do exactly structure...

...that the business that Wa've well and truly passed by, like internationally, like that's a global market of media now is it's all online. It's all you know. There's obviously big players and even there's massive podcasting networkx that hosts a shitload of podcasts, even in like individual settings. But everyone kind of has an ability and has the freedom to make it on their own and what really this is going to do is live of that to such a small portion, like it was in the old days. You've got to go through big brother or these big companies, and then that set that honestly sets us back so far right like that. That is such a short sided view. If the government agrees to do it, and it obviously our ability to get information, particularly as I'm sure you're going to get to now, if Google decides to just not play ball, which obviously, why the fuck would you, and just Hoik it out like Australia is forcing, like they're forcing their hand, because Google is not going to do shit right, like they're not going to give out their proprietary information, not going to give out their key business model. So obviously Google is just going to wake it and decide to not, you know, operate in Austray. Would facebook do the same thing too, or would it just be what it been? Think what what would happen? Is I that? I think that's what I was thinking. So what a my prediction is if the companies and you know the government doesn't pull pull back, what possibly could happen is basically Google and facebook, my boycott Australia in a sense where you can still probably access their services with the limited results and probably, and you know, or maybe who knows, if they have how depends on how bad a be like going back decades, right, like it. Yeah, that's right, but it more than likely. Yeah. Well, I mean if their boycott, and what I'm hope, what I'm thinking, is this is what the thought pattern of the government is and, I presume, the media companies, as they're know, they can't take on Google and facebook both at once, because they are, I mean, Google and facebook are probably, you know, arguably the most powerful entities in the world. Right, no government is stronger than Google. Let's be honest, right, Google controls half the world. They're in flast, exactly the influences, right, they influen, they control how to word. However, they're probably the lesser of the more evils, because, in a way, Google still let's you know what they're doing. That's right. Yeah, they lets you know what they're doing because they want to keep that. They could. Google wants to keep that. All the Nice company kind of situation. However, however, given that, and also remember to just a side, not just remember Larry Page and all those people who own Google and Maxebur but just people like us, right, he did. They weren't born into money and they weren't into politics and they were just like, you know, just people like us. We actually Nag. Yeah, entrepreneurs, incredible company. So keeping who would you rather trust? Those these people who have always like, you know, about madden murder. Can All those guys like with a family? And how these congeners? We already know that what it og is all boy from day devil not matter, don't yeah, I was thinking about that show the other day. To Real. So we are. We already know what kind of these what these kind of people are. So, you know, who do you want to trust? Those, you know, the person who just became, you know, struck gold and basically still, you know, they're still trying to say the planet, doing all those things, or would you trust those other guys who just want the money and control our politics and all that stuff? Now, if that goes through, what will happen if Google boycotts? Let me tell you. This is what could happen. This is the first guest scenario. That means our own line trade would probably suffer massively. The way it works, our advertisement prices will go up people like me who make money out of working for like as a marketing online digitally, will suffer, and they this like people like content created like us. If so, you know, you got US making podcast. Our shares won't go anyway. You got people like Isaac Butterfield on Youtube. You know, if he makes a video he would get less because keep in mind, if Google is giving away sixty percent more to these companies on from ad revenue, they will give them less money the other other other content creator in Australia, because they say what weights are the money? The market is too diluted. Basically, what happens is this is just just an explanation of what market dilusion is on on platforms. Right. So it was easy to grow. You're falling on instagram about four, five years ago. Now it's almost it's almost impossible. Well, not impossible, it's differently. Like so many it's a numbers game, right, it's a numbers game because there's so many people there and so many people are creating content. There's not enough people to actually look at all those pictures and algorithms will always show the most people what people are interested and most people are interested in seeing page hathaway stuff, not my stuff, right, so my stuff will get pulled down. By the time they will be done scrolling, they would have seen six pictures of Page hath away and they're be like well, I'm done. So that's how it works. That's what delusion works. Now, if the media companies get it back, that means they control the dilusions and means we'll never known will ever grow on any of those platforms. So that's the situation of what the whole well, we stand? I mean, I don't. The reason did the perfect iming,...

...as will normally, is being attention to it. That's right. And Yeah, you're almost it's almost impossible to because just not you. You're almost not able to absolve the information if you listen to it, and most people, unless you're able to do the research and really look into it, like you actually don't really know. You there's no way of knowing because it's not being told like this information, it's not being told even they're not even getting told lies that we're almost here enough. And and yeah, that's so concerning, and that's ultimately the fear that many people had. What this you know what this situation with the covid nineteen situation would do was like what it would bring on? How would it change society, not just in how we deal with people, but how, like who's going to take advantage of this situation? And that's exactly what it is, taking advantage of this situation. It's something that you know people are not going to like. If people truly understand it even a little bit, like no one's going to get behind it, at least no one who knows anything about anything. So yeah, man, it's very frustrating for sure, the fact that they're trying to do this at a time right now, more than other where you've almost completely obliterated, in many cases, a businesses ability to generate revenue in a physical store like it is so important for people like you and so many businesses to be able to make money and drive their business online, and now you're going to change that completely and you're going to give that control over like obviously they will still be a market place and everything else and you still be able to use it. But Man, if you give that sort of power to the government, even in Australia, where we don't trust the government but we don't feel like we're going to get our asses kicked every day. Like yeah, serious it. Well, it's the birth parties, is not just the government. Is the media companies are the problem? Yeah, the channel lines and all those people. But yeah, yeah, exactly, the driving, driving force behind it. Right, but the government ultimately the ones that are going to they're the ones that are going to give it the okay, right, like the yeah, but the but obviously the government is, you know, they've got enough power to like, you know, press the pressure the government and I presume there's probably some sort of a fear trading law they've government has passed that. They've just found a loophole. That's why they're probably pushing it somehow. So, yeah, you know, it's definitely so. That's, yeah, unfortunate. That's for difficult for sake of Australia. I hope, I truly hope that, you know, certainly the government realizes what kind of damage it could do. I mean talk about Covid Nineteen, and this is probably a whole nother level of pandemic as well. That would happen? Yeah, that's right. Just a change the society, doesn't it changes the way. You know, we're going to be the first if it happens we're going to be the first country that has, you know, fully used as Google services. We're going to be the first main country to do this, like so unprecedented. And there's you know, there's been a heap of news and and attention on, obviously not just the like kind of the data sharing debacle that went on sort of last year and had been going on forever, where data was being used like gold, like it is the new gold now, like if you have data, like you have the power to reach anyone. But it's, yeah, it it just just feels, it just it just creates like great it just creates more of a distrust in the political system and obviously in the media sere, which we all know, but for some reason, man, they're still around the still doing the damn thing. But Hey, fuck, we can only we can only be dead horse so often. But it's I think it's good to let people know that because, like that's serious and most people, including myself, who generally at least has some sort of an idea of what's going on, you know, completely blind side of like that was there. Is there any time frame on like when that sort of thing was looking getting past or when they were hoping that why I'm sure everyone would have seen the letter from Google and it's basically all over this search is says learn more about Google supporting industry for your cord. It's look, many of you been following the development of the news both in Google could, which mean Google series, was what we love. Is Okay, let me just read our this leg tou yeah, absolutely all right. Many of you have been following the fell, following the development around the news media bargaining code. That's what they're calling it is media bogning code. What it means for Google services that you use and love? Would like to take would would like to take a step back and answer some of the fundamental questions we've heard about Google relationship with the news and media engines industry. Just to be clear, Google does not object to the idea of Australian code to oversee relationship between new businesses and digital platforms. We have already made an agreement with the pay published content, so they have going to setting it. Just to be clear, Google does not object to the idea of an Australian code to oversee relationship. Shoudo. This is a digital platform. It said in its latest blog post published on Monday.

Google has just answered it form us. Yeah, good, shout out to get Cole man to losing that Bro fact. What are we gonna have to scare my talk and of that our phones. They're might this is got Morrison. Yes, yeah, that pretty much summarize. that their Google, I guess you know. Then there was another response from Google where they basically said, like we'll just pull the services out, like right, like we you know, we're not going to great. What you guys? Yeah, well, that's exactly what I mean. There's whole bunch of different things. I'm if you if you're interested in finding out what's going on, just search up open letter to Australia from Google. You'll find everything. Yeah, that's the way to look at it. That's the way to look at it. But you know, in that on that note, I think that's sort of covers the whole topic. But it's a crazy situation. I mean crazy time to be alive. I think we got a little another little topic black then. So, yes, yeah, definitely kind of been. Yeah, as example, now you know. If you didn't know, now you know. Maybe that's what we're here for. My other clever Duney, that's rapid knowledge, knowledge, that's right, right's right, all. Yeah, so, you know what kind of talk about a little bit today, and it's just something that I always go through and something I've gone through so and I guess what it really is going to link and relate back to is the ability to overcome adversity, particularly, you know, finding ways to overcome difficult times, particularly in a pandemic what we're going through right now, and how it's sort of helped me. So, I mean, as long as you've known me, brother, like you've known I've been a pretty devout Christian, like I certainly will never, you know, I've never lied and say I live a perfect life. I've made so many mistakes, many mistakes that I, you know, have not just asked for forgiveness for, but many things that I haven't even forgiven myself about. So so that's kind of where I've had a little bit of like a disdain and like it's really hard because so many people either raised religious or their relays, their raised with a certain belief system, or it's kind of the opposite, and I kind of view atheism, because because of this reason, as a belief system, your belief in nothing, and that's kind of an interesting topic in itself. Like, even if you aren't believing, you're actually pretty you're pretty strong. You believe that nothing does exist. So, whoever, you know, whatever your views are, I think you'll kind of be able to relate to this and at the cool fundamental you know, at the core fundamentals of Christianity. Ultimately it's about believing in a higher power. It's believing about in a God who sent down his son to essentially wash away a turn for all our sins, any bad, good, bad or ugly we do in our life, as long as we give our lives to Jesus Christ, as long as we ultimately decide that, hey, you know, there is a creator out there. I have only a certain amount of control as a person and I I want anything outside of my control and I want any of my decisions to be kind of like not controlled, to really bad word, because that's kind of been the problem with religion for a long time, but I want that kind of external force and that energy that a lot of us feel and we can't quite put it our hands on. I want that to be governed by my Lord. I want that to be governed by Jesus and particularly you, know most people in tough times, that's when they call back on the old boy, you know, to be like things are going good, it's like, yeah, I've got this good takeaback seat, and now it's like if things aren't going that good, even mentally, physically, whatever was going on your life, you tend to come back and that's kind of been a little bit of my cycle and I guess my relationship with it as well, and particularly within this time, like it was, you know, we were all kind of struggling around our own way and trying to get through it a little bit. For me, it was really, you know, it's sort of really hit just stuff to abby was born. Obviously today Abby's eight weeks today, like that's a two months. Man, that's gone so fast. But like it's a ridiculous so, I mean it's not two months, but it's eight weeks. Same, same, can you believe that? That's incredible. Really, it's it is. Yeah, so, anyway, was I kind of you know, you had this really amazing experience and this kind of like I felt like I was in a bubble for two weeks, like nothing could hit me. It was like this amazing thing. Then I kind of was hit back with the way I felt pretty and, like you know, some issues that I really needed to deal with in that relate to so many elements and things in my life. And what, you know, what I found with this most recent time where I gave my life back to God, and that's ultimately what happens. You know, you you ask. First and foremost, you ask for forgiveness. So any wrong I have done now and in the future I need to be forgiven for because through that pathway, through the presence of God like, you're able to forgive yourself. Because if in yourself you can't find a reason to give yourself or something like, you need something extra. You need an external power, you need, you know, maybe that person that you did wrong. You need them to give you and then you can forgive yourself. That's kind of the principle of it, and I'm a little bit being wishwashy, but...

I'm just trying to kind of relate to it. And so many people have this preconceived notion about I don't even like to word the use the word religion, but would just use it with everyone understands it. They have so many misconceptions and so many experiences and no one's really wrong in thinking these things or believing these things because, like, man, if you grew up with you had these neighbors who are, quote unquote, debout Christians and they were the worst neighbors ever. They never took their trash out, they yield at their kids, they kick their dollar, you know, like these things has happened. And I even grew up going to church Myce my life, and I'll be perfectly honest, most of the people know. I should say there was a it was a small percentage to the people, but the people actually remembered from my church. That's kind of the way the human brain works. I rem them being really stuck up and really like high let you know, I'm better than you type things. So those sort of things come into play and I just wanted to share kind of how I draw and how I've kind of how I kind of see situations and bring it back to me. So, ultimately, I was just in a in a place again where I was I wasn't. You know, I've talked about my depression and I've talked about my mental health before. I'd certainly wasn't at that stage and I didn't think I will ever get back to that stage because of Abbey and because of Charlotte and just because of going through that situation before. I know, kind of know a little bit like what rock bottom is. So I know that I'm not going to get back there. But just like everyone, man, I wasn't feeling great and I was kind of getting back to that head space a little bit where I, you know, I was really negative at myself. I was thinking about past mistakes and I'd forgive myself and now I was put myself b the Shit again and you know. So ultimately I was like, okay, I need to clean up my act, I need to be a better person, I need to give my life back to God, give him the control. And that doesn't mean you turn off and you do nothing. That just means in prayer or meditation. You know, meditation. So prayer is my meditation. I try to seek those truths out and kind of the way, I think it's actually more of a relationship then, you know, then a then like a authority figure. So if you're going through your day today, if I'm really stressed, if I'm not feeling the best today, I would just sort of sit there and I'll pray and I'll just kind of ask for guidance, off the help or just a little bit of strength, and usually what happens, man, it's not like I hear some hello come over me and as I do this, I just start thinking. I'm able to at least for a couple of moments, I'm able to kind of squash some of those really negative emotions, because that's what happens, and you can probably say the same thing here, like most of the time when you're not feeling the best, like the thing that actually is the hardest part is like your emotions are so high and intense you actually can't see through the shit. Like it's really hard to get through anything already. Yeah, very cloudy clouds the exact word, because it's like you can see it there, but you can't get to it. So that's all that does. That little bit of prayer just kind of gives me in my brains that's going okay, like how can I solve this problem? What do I need to do? I need to start eating better, you know, whatever, whatever these things are. So I did that and that was the initial thing and ultimately, like in in my deep down, you know, my my dad used to put it, the best way, and it's like a very graphic and upfront way. Like if you, you know, put a gun to my head and you said, like either announce your belief in God or don't, it's like will put a bull into me, because I'm willing to sacrifice my life. Like that's kind of how serious this is at the end of the day. So, even though a lot of people feel, and I'm kind of going off at a top tangent here, but I'll kind of bring it back, a lot of people feel that a lot of religious people really crazy in these guys are just over the intense. Well, know, it's just mean whatever we believe in is bigger than ourselves, so we're willing to sacrifice ourselves for it. So that's all that is. It's just a really powerful thing. It's like having someone you love like, you know, if your sister was in trouble, like you would sacrifice yourself in a in a second. So it's that sort of way. So that's why it's such an intense emotion there. So I gave, you know, I was able to start forgiving myself again. I gave my life back to the Lord and immediately these things started to kind of come back and in play and in in myself. What I was able to kind of reignite with some of that passion that I had from that place and I was able to put in other areas of my life and a little bit more energy. That's the worst thing about feeling mentally jacked up right is you just don't feel like doing anything. You know how to help yourself and you just it's like you can't even do it. So I'm starting to see things in the world now and things that I've read in the Bible about, quote unquote, the End Times, and I'm certainly not going to be a person that's going to say, you know, the end is near, repent, but at the end of the day there's a continued message of the way and ultimately, if you believe in God, you've got to believe in the devil. Like that's kind of you know, you can't have one way out the other. And ultimately the devil's goal is to take people out of God's hands let him believe in their own way, in their own life, and just these little things and I started to see, okay, like I'm I'm actually doing like if I you know, I'm doing the right thing. Here. I'm kind of picking these things out and I'll probably a conversation I'll have with you off there, just because it's something that's affecting people in my life right now and it's also really tricky subject. But ultimately, like it kind of comes down to a little bit, a little bit of just finding something for yourself that you believe in, and it's probably it's got to be more...

...than just the general you know, things I like or my hobby and even family members are really good and like I love all my family members and my friends and that sort of thing. But in now was a time more than ever that I really needed to find something that I believed in, I had faith and trust in, and that's what that's what God provides me. Is like. It's all of those things that I just explain. It's when times are tough. So I think the cling on to when I need some help with the decision, it's the ability to Siph and through information and it's just like creating a habit. Once you start those positive things, once you start praying, once you start reading, once you start looking at things differently and thinking, like my perspective has changed huge over the last couple of weeks, like my glasshoust full type aspect. Like I'm a lot more positive now and I can actually say that. You know, I'm still a pretty positive person. I always like to be a nice person, but most of the time that comes from a place of like I don't want my pain to be put on to someone else. But I can actually say now that it's actually coming from a good place and I'm actually really upbeat and positive and happy about the situation I'm in and where we're headed. And even though things seem die or I know that everything's going to be okay, because you know at the end of the day what happens when I die, I go to eternal paradise and things are going to be okay. That's obviously different conversation and that's you know, where you're going to lose some people. That's totally fine. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. I'm just kind of giving my thoughts and opinion. But really what it found me and you can kind of get the same thing in hobbies. You can get the same thing in a passion like. That's what it is. It is passion, whether it's a relationship, whether it's a sport, whether it's a hobby, whether it's working on your car, like anything that you like to do. Find something that you know is going to be there for you no matter what, and, as little or as big as that may seem, it might sounding significant, it's kind of a it's something that you can always hold tight to, like when the wind is crashing through and you're you know, you're barely you know you're getting through days that are like man, I can't live like this, like what the hell is going on, like the real bad times, or even if you know someone who's going through these sort of things, like what psychologist would do. And this is where science and religion have a great relationship. But it's not always science versus religion. Is You can use these strategies to help other people, like, okay, what's one thing that you love no matter what, like do you like this sport, or do you like to go to the beach, or do you like to do these things? So you can actually start to help people in that way, eliminate toxic things in your life. Like once you're, once you're and being a Christian for me, is about being the best version of myself. It's not actually about being better than anyone else. It's just being the best version of myself. So once I start looking at being the best version of myself, I start to get rid of situations and not really get rid of people, because I'm pretty good at making friends with only the people are you know, I know I should be. You know, we we. You know, I would say is day, but we do one fraid that. You know, we had to come pretty much. Bet I've been pretty lucky. Like I'm pretty good. I I feel like I'm pretty good at, you know, seeing situations and like I think a big thing is like when how you feel someone is a real big indicator of what that person is like. Like there's times and everyone has bad days and all that sort of thing, and sometimes it's being a friend for someone is about being there for them right. But you know sometimes if it's a constant thing, like every time I talk to this person or every time I run this person, I make me feel the same way. Well maybe that's toxic. So it's just kind of like eliminating that and just getting back on the roll a little bit and just just looking at things with a more problem solving, positive outcome and at the end of the day, like even you know, I'll be honest. Today I had a really hard day and in my prayer today, in my meditation today, I didn't say anything, I didn't do anything, I just cried for ten minutes. That's all I did. I've told you why, because that's what I needed to do. Like I'll come back tomorrow when I won't feel any emotion and I'll be really thoughtful, when I will think about something training or something I love or something with Abbey. Today it was just just let in. So you can use those great strategies, like meditation can be your own thing. You can, you can, you can. I think it's ultimately about doing something that's going to put you into a state of mind where you can hopefully get through most of your emotions and kind of speak and think clearly to yourself, and I think having conversations with yourself, productive conversations with herself, a really important so I guess one thing that I you know, obviously, more than anything, I would love to talk about the word of God and I would love to talk about Jesus forever, but at the end of the day, like there's a time and a place for that, and I'm also still very young in my journey as well, and I wouldn't sit here and claim to be an expert or anything like that. I just kind of know how to process a little bits of information relative to my own life. That's really my only skill I have, and hopefully I can relate those sort of things to other people's lives as well. But, if you know, I guess at the end of the day, like what I wanted to say more than anything, like if you're if you're struggling with anything, if there's a situation that you maybe know the answer to or you want to know the answer to, like take a step back from it. You've got to give yourself the opportunity...

...to solve it, like if you come at it yourself with the perspective of, like, I have to figure this out now, right now. What's going on? What's going away? I'm I'm not doing good. Why we're not feeling good? You you know, that's literally how I speak to myself. I'm sure people can relate to it like that. When you're stress, that's how you're talking to yourself. Just chill. Give yourself something every day to look forward to. It might be something really small like taking a dog for the walk and might be cleaning the car. I might be even going for a drive. Men, there's nothing more peaceful than as long as you're not in Sydney traffic, but you know, go the back roads, just something where you can just be free of a lot of exp you know, external you know, away from your phone, a lot of external things that are going to take you off your mind and I think if you really are struggling or if you just need help with something, you're more often than not like you can get information from other places, but you're going to have the answers a lot of the answers, particularly if it's based off prior experience, as you're going to have that ability to figure things out in your own self and just be just be kind yourself and know that you're you know you're the best. You're the best equips person to do with your situation, because it is your situation own that thing, this thing might be terrible with, this thing might be crappy. You know you can stay hard and you can stay cold and all that sort of thing. Those are really good because that helps you not be so overly reactive. But we have to be compassionate because I think as humans were all. At the end of the day, the core of our hearts is love. Like we want love, we want to be loved. So approach your problems from that angle and hopefully that helps even a little bit. It's just a all about having a little bit of perspective and you know, knowing that, knowing that, you know, as difficult as things are right now, you're you know, you're just going through what you have to go through to get through that situation and you know it's really it's really easy to get down in yourself and it's really easy to get it's really easy to get negative. But just just you're going to be okay. Love always wins. Jesus loves you. You might not believe that or you might do, but know the real is someone out there that loves you. This family members that loves you. There's a greater world that loves you. Most people are good people. There's a you know, a small percentage that aren't. Unfortunately that's the way the world works. But you know so many people are caught up in what other people are saying about them and how my workmates think about me and all that sort of thing. That you are. You like you're the you're the shit like I don't mean to put it that way, but you're the shit like you you know you can do it. It's on you, but you can do it. So just just kind of have that little bit of perspective about it. I think that would that would really help. I know I said a lot there, but there was kind of a lot on my mind, a little bit too, but that's kind of how I process things as well. So I appreciate you kind of give me the floor to kind of speak that out and I don't know if you have any questions or if you want to kind of go from there or maybe ways that you've dealt with your own personal your own personal demons to but just know that you're there for yourself and there's other people in your life, or you can go find new people in your life that are going to be there for you. So we love your duds and girls and and everyone and everyone else and never enough. That's awesome. Look, I think that was great. Actually, I had to go keep up and committing its amost that. Yeah, my STEPFA was a lot that wasn't right there, which I was pretty ranting for the most part. No, though, I thought it was pretty good because I thought that was very real and I thought that was the best part about that. I think those but and most of the things we talk about is always real in the first place to begin with, because that's what we've always done. We have jet real conversations and the thing we think about it. We mean not always be right, but this is the thing that we know it, we our head is at, and that's when, if you remember the what you wrote about, obviously your experience and if you want to give that a quick plug or at the end of episode, like you kind of detailed of what happened to you earlier on in life and you brought up about having friends and moving from overseas and struggling, and that was actually a really good point you brought up, because I think that's one of the first things that we connected with quickly, like we were able to just talk deeply to each other just about what was going on. We didn't have to, you know, kind of Pussy foot around a little bit for a lack of a better world, or we didn't have to, you know. So having that one person in your life, they help you know, even if they can't help you through your situation, because you need to help yourself like they help and having that one person or a few people to help you through talking those situations out. So massive, one hundred percent and and actually, funny enough, talking about the year. If you want to read art to go check it out. If you I think it's on my facebook. My much show it on clever time is facebook. Or Yeah, what's we also got to get the homework tab before back on our website, which we will. I got to work on that. will get that back on. It will be there as well. So one of the things I said in the podcast is said that you know, people are always there for you, you know, and that's one of the things that I said. I said more often than what exactly I said, was the pit, your friends of family...

...at the Cup, the other coffee to your cup. Right on. The things I said, which is one of the things that amazes me, is the fact that more very often we think we're alone and we're fighting the struggles of life alone. Right, yeah, and yet more and it's easy to think that sometimes. You know, I don't want us, I don't want to scale those people who actually may not have that, because I'm aware there's people out there work actually really generally alone, but more often than not right there, and they might be exception to the rule, but I've had a however, more often than not there's always someone who cures right and there's always people out there willing to listen to you, and a lot of people, in fact, even strangers of the listen to people, are people are full of compassion. I mean, yeah, people are often going to say everyone is going through testing times. People are confessional, people who give a shit. So hundred percent on the mark there, and you're right, I think one of the some of the questions I had and one of those some of those things that I kind of know the answer as well, like I sort of went through different scenarios. I wanted to get your the first question that I had with the bat off the right, off the top, is what was the trigger of this like new sort of like not necessarily rediscovering, but what was this like? What was the trigger or what was what made you go, Hey, I'm going to have turned to God or I'm going to do Jesus. So I think the what really happened for me or is like kind of a little bit of a culmination and a snowball. That probably started like precovid it actually did start a little bit around that time too, and you know, that was not eating the best, not know, not training as much and kind of putting my you know, putting my career, putting my studies to the sides, just because that's actually the situation that came up, and I lost a little bit of a sense of direction. So when I lost that sense of direction or ultimately, a purpose that I feel, you know, a career purpose and kind of something that I want to push forward to later in life, and that's been, you know, being a trainer, of being able to help people, both physically and emotionally, with things like once I lost, once I kind of lost even my short sided pathway of that, like I begin to really slip back and I had to my old way of thinking came back and what I what I struggle, you know, the way kind of my younger brain came back in and took that away from me. So I never yes, it was just kind of a culmination of thing. And then eventually start giving up in yourself. I'm like, I'm not worth this, I can't even do that, and it's like a it's something that starts out as very little like a tempt like a temporary put off of what I was doing, and kind of my road map, to use a better word, got pushed back, and then I just sort of let myself sleep, you know, my own mistakes and that sort of thing. So it was more of a reconciliation for me and ultimately, man like it was. There was a couple of weeks and there was some really moments where I was like, I felt completely hopeless and I felt I definitely not rock bottom, like it's a very I'm all, you know, I'm a long way from rock bottom. I wouldn't want to use those words, but I felt like me. And but I can't keep living day to day like this, where I just I don't, you know, I just don't want like I don't not just feel good, but I don't want to do anything. Like it's, you know, really negative stuff sort of thing. So for me, what that brings out is accessential, I guess. Yeah, definitely a little crisis in the own sense. And like I don't want to, I certainly don't want to put, you know, articulate that in the way that makes me seem like I was, you know, on bloody the ropes and mate I was, you know, one that one thing from over. But yeah, it was kind of like that. That so that the stress of that situation kind of brought the decision, you know, kind of brought a lot of you know, where I had to get a state of like I'm out of control of my situation now, I actually can't I don't know if I can help myself anymore. I need my external help, like I need that, and obviously I have that kind of already in play. And then from there it was just a decision that, hey, like it, in order for me to continue to get better and keep getting better, I need to set myself to a certain standard. And what what, you know, what Crip, what the Bible kind of lays out and what the kind of the basic principles of Christianity lays out is a better way to live your life. And I was like, okay, I need to go back and live my life better, not just for abby, and she was a big part of it, because it's, you know, having a daughter, having a kid is huge, but it's for the people around me and all my other motivational things. But it was kind of getting to that point where like, man, I have a decision here. I can go one way and I can just ignore what's going on and I can fail, you know, I feel like I'm a failure in life, and just not do what I can or I can kind of get back on track, ask for external help, you know, let my ego aside and actually ask for the help that I need and then kind of get back on track a little bit. And because obviously I have the pre built faith in, you know, in my you know, in God, and the ability to ask for help. That's a big thing too. But it was just it was a massive trigger. It was like me and I'm feeling really crappy and I need I need my I need help, I need out of this. Yeah, kind of yeah, I hope that makes sense. Was that your question? Did as that? Yes, I mean you did answer the question in a way,...

...but I guess you answered the more elaborate way, I think. I just want to sort of narrow that down, I think. Yeah, so one of the things that I personally find is that whenever, and I've narraw things down, when it's a very personal yeah, it's very hard. It's one of the things that I learned and tell me if you agree with this right over the years, I'm pretty I think you would probably I'm a majority of the time I'm pretty stable as a meant like my mind. My dips are they always but my dips aren't like huge. Right. I'm more, majority of the time pre stable, and one of the things I found is I always had, like not necessarily anchor per se, but I always had something to hold onto, which was nothingness. For me personally. It's not necessarily like, you know, religient per se, but what it was I always had the hope and like a dream to do X. Right, I'm and that. And whenever I sort of go to a point where I'm like, okay, there's no fight, like I can't do anything, like this is and that happens like a funny enough you see this. This morning I was actually Superre I was slipping into existential I was like that's what it is like. You going to go with the poet, like what am I doing? What did happen? Like, where am I going with this? You know, like you start comparing yourself to other people, and for me most of the time what happens was like, okay, I made a commitment to my like's like, okay, this is what I want to do and this is I'm happy to die doing this. Right, like I'M gonna. I'm I'm happy to what my UN essential thing was like I want to change the word, but I'm happy to die trying. I never say like I will change the world, so happy to die crying. But it was interesting because I realize every time I go hey, well, like this is like this is what am I gonna do. I'm like, WELLFA and I just realized I was like, well, I'd like I've got, I've got this thing that I've already said. It's always existing. Is always that one thing that I can go back to. It's always like little glimmer of hope, which is not really hope, Ne's per se, but it's always just that anchor per se. I don't like about anchor person in that sense. But so there's that right and I feel like when anchors just like something stable that you know yet and yes, that's right, deep in your call. Right, yeah, that's a reactly right. And and I feel like I feel like a religion Andrew. One of the things about religion is, and actually, despite the fact how what his relationship was with Christianity and catalystic catalysis, Catholic because as policism castle. Yeah, if you want to, it's right. Frederick Nietzsche, actually you said this. Is said that the problem if religion, religion will fate, and which over the years it has, because people have gotten too busy and a lot of the people are so many people spend so much time in excesstential dread. That is actually becoming new, the norm now, in fact. So maybe we'll spend so much time in excessential dread and they actually avoid it. Right, and I actually want to touch on this. Actually, funny enough, like, for the part a few days and my actually my housemate, actually been really good, because we jump on a diet and we did this right for them. Once I realized that, I sort of decided that, like I knew this looked down was thing. I kind of like sorry, punishing myself like it was my fault that I wasn't like this whole pandemic was happening, if that makes sense, like it does that does that sort of make sense? I was where you like to decreate, like a where you upset your reaction to something or where you where you almost blaming your situation. Even I was externally motivated and it was brought on you ABSU blaming yourself for it a little bit. One of the things, and that's what I was saying. So because, like, my anchor is always been very internal, right, and the problem with that internal anchor is sometimes that it's kind of what Jack O viekins books talks about, is like I take hundred percent ownership or most things right, even subconsciously. This whole pandemic is going on and I took hundred percent blame for it, like I was acting like in my head, I was internally acting like I wasn't going to gym as like my fault. I'm not like I can't work, it's my fault. Yeah, and I can. It's super interesting because you know, I that the problem with that is ann normally, if I blame myself for something, I would fix it. But for the first time I was blaming myself for something and they was nothing I could do about it. It was them. I mean, that's the unfortunate, like the downside to like even that. Stay hard mentally, the cold mental it is. We're not robots man like, we're humans. We have you know, we can't just yeah, we can't push these things away, like we have to address these issues a little bit. And and that's exactly and the reason I wanted to bring and I'm gonna quickly loop back into what we're talking about before. So what I did was right. I was actually waking up, no getting on my phone, just freaking swiping through video, swiping through videos on facebook, and I I spend very little time on facebook for someone who has to work on with like all this time. I spent real turn time on my phone. Or average day I would spend maybe like forty five minutes on my phone, and I've seen other people spent up to like six hours plussing on their phone. Right, yeah, if anyone last forty five minutes, they kidding themselves. They can then, right yeah. And I do spend a lot more time on computers, but I don't actually sit down my phone.

However, I found myself my phone hours were clipping up to four hours, three hours a day and one hour alone on facebook drowns, and it was dangerous. My my husband, Gols, call my girls, why are you watching videos on Youtube? Like I told him that I was doing and I was like, okay, I'm going to delete the APP. I'm going to quickly relook assess the situation. And I did, like and and I sort of went to say, okay, well, like fuck, like I'm freaking out, like this is happening in this morning again. I was like, oh, man, like, what am I going to do? No matter what had like all these things are so normal, because that's what life is like. You you things, you get, it come all over the place and if you have something to hold on too, if you have a dream, a goal, of faith, I believe right, those are the thing that actually keep you, keep you saying right, and they like kind of a hope or like a did the like the light at the end of the tunnel, or like a greater reason, because I always say this right, and this is what I said, and this is what I said as well before. said it's always good to be liveing, it's good to be individual, but you will never go. There's only so far as a human for yourself, you can go, because what you said like, for exampleistic this for example, like you know, you, you tell yourself going to show up at the gym five Am. You probably want, but let's say if you stall your friend, you're going to show up at the gym at five am, you more likely do it. Same thing when it's something becomes bigger than you. Like you said about religion. You know, you have to believe in it that much because it's not about you anymore. Something bigger that ends up being giving you the greater reason to keep going through all the adversity and all those challenges and all the all the ski like scars of life and all those problems. So, anyway to this huge loop. That was I think that's why I wanted to just call it sort of like agree with that in this massive way, so that they make completely make sense why. That is valid to all. It would have problems it. The problem with phones too, is like the great machines. But they do have a real impact on, you know, on our psychology and on even on now, you know, on our drain or system, on our hormones, on, you know, our receptors. Like we're getting this constant information. We're getting constant little bit of you for he a little bit of, you know, a little bit of good feelings because we found something funny or something we liked. And you know, it's no surprise that when we're, you know, when we're kind of being unproductive or we're not as good as we can be. Like we go back to these phones and we try to get that little bit and most of the time it's subconscious, but that's actually what's going on, and that is the power of the phones that we have there, and that's why it's obviously so important to be aware of that, but also aware of the amount of time that you spend on your phones. And okay, is it's almost like smoking in a weird way, like I'm a stretched that now I'm in a stretch for situation. Something's happened. My phone comes out and I started calling for their so yeah, that's a that's something so practical and that's something that we all do. Most definitely. If you want to phone, you do that nearly every day. Nearly every day. One hundred percent agreed. And like what was just a sour side. No talk abouts essential dread, because most people may think they're not in like going through this problem. What happened? What's happening is they're doing exactly that. They may be going through something difficult, but they just distracting themselves from even actually and just keep on doing that stuff. What that ends up happening is you're not fixing the problem because you don't even thinking about the problem. So how you're going to ever got to fix the problem because you're not thinking about it? Let me forget about whole forget about anything, because you're just too busy even thinking about the problem, because you got to figure out, like, you know, to know to get treated for something. You got to go to the doctor and find out if you've got like you know, to what freaking disease is, right, I mean you can't just go well, as what youtube videos, because that will fucking you know, drown out the pain of like you know this. So it is so much that we can go on here, and I think that's and that that's a huge reason. By I actually do think religion has, over the years, faded. Is because people have become better at getting distracted. Yeah, and and not because the pain has a lesson or and all those problem and then, you know, they don't need to believe in anything anymore, because they still do. I just think people found themselves, find found things to distract, just got better at distracting themselves. Yet and you know, in this big wide world we live into, there are more things that you could replace and put into like a godlike figure in your lives. There's more avenues to go down and there's more things that get interested and understand and everything else. So the you know, the old old days of where we're very limited by a horse and carriage or by car. You know, we don't have as much of that. So it's kind of a you know, a natural kind of progression in life, right, and and and that's based off, you know, that's based of many a good that's we've had in life. But I think there's obviously heaps of factors what that's happened. But Yeah, you're hundred present right, like that's the biggest one. Is there's just so many other things that we can prioritize in our life. And and that's if that's the and and it's really interesting because I think we it's really funny because this whole conversation is taken as this is almost more taboo than anything else right now. Yeah, man, that's...

...massive. which is the Sidal Change Right? Yeah, it's such a huge did this is so taboo that speaking about this conversation is that Bausic even I feel weird and I'm sure you feels like. It kind of feels like, how is this more taboo about talking about like, I mean even take religion, is what we're talking about here, but even take religion aside, but if we talk about this aspect of the accidential trade and your belief system and what religions believe in, because because is more taboo than anything else. I mean, everyone's standing up for everything at the moment, but no one is standing up for and that's that's exactly what it is. I think. I'll everyone is creating problems, and I've said this before and lock I think this is about kind of highlighted in my head. Is All when you're talking about it. I think you said something about you know, you always have the answer, right the one of the thing you always have that you can find the solutions in yourself and want to say we always know the answer to everything, right you? Most of the time, let's say, you take up something, we know the answer, but it's just feels to we don't want to think about that answer. I didn't mean. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, it's certainly were go hey, exact an emotional trauma to it something difficult, right, that we know how that's got right. Yeah, yeah, and and Robert Green's book actually, he writes about this is I think he calls it a it calls it it's like the horse effect, is when you've got the horse blinkers. Is that what they call on? Because you, because you are so like, it's definitely so clouded. Yeah, like, you don't want to see those. You don't want to broaden your horizon, and it's very often that you can actually have the narrow vision and just go, well, this is what's happening. Is this is it. And you and so often when you get angry as well, because you get angry. It's so we get angry at other people. You don't want to see anything. I mean, if you ever have ever realized when you angry that you actually feel you actually feel yourself not being able to control yourself because you got like, I don't want to get angry. You can hear you on in on one rogue and you go, well, I don't want to be angry because I'm are. You can feel the damage. Its being done, right. You like I fuck, this is like, yeah, I'm a Luence your soul, doesn't it? Yeah, you're yelling at your partner. You yelling at your mum and etc. But you know that's happening, but you can't se so, I think. And what almost makes you not want to, not want to care about it, right, even though you deeply very do and you know this person. Didn't see him ever again. Obviously that would affect you mensely. But it can definitely get to that stage where it's so powerful that you know better and you still don't. You know, you still continue to do it. That's one and I think, yeah, that's definitely what happened to me. That's where it we can to get, really get scary. It does get scary when you know that that. Yeah, that's that's what I was talking about, like I was as a because I feel like I've been through something similar. Goga hey like or you need to snap. I'm looking try to control that. It's hard to control that, as was, and a lot of the time, I'll tell you what it is I feel and I tell me if you agree here. Do you think all of the time is actually shamp? Yeah, I think so. Like the inability to forgive yourself or the inability to overcome a situation, even if forgiveness is not part of it. The ability to move on from it and not let it be traumatic through every day just by thinking about it. Is Shame, for it's regret, and sometimes the big shame is knowing that I'm probably going to do it again, and that's where it you know, that's where we need to understand that, as human beings, were in perfect and we're going to continue to make similar, very similar mistakes, almost identical mistakes, oh, over and over and over again, and that's kind of part of the life that we actually live in. That something we need to learn to accept, as difficult as it may seem. Obviously, you know, if you do a really bad thing, like learn the lesson once. Like if you do something really bad, you feel like crap like that, you feel like crap for a reason, because there's, you know, your subconscious mindings telling you, like we can't keep doing their suthiys, we're going to you're going to lose me and I'm not going to be here anymore. You're just going to be a machine who can just do, you know, be a brigant. I think that's how socio paths happen. Like, you know, that's kind of a little bit of a controversial topic, but at the end of the day, like my belief or like yeah, my belief is, and what's what's spoken about and what's taught, is that everyone is created in the perfect image of God. So everyone is perfect at birth. No one has like these even know people have certain brain chemistry and different situations, like they have that there for a reason. Like I know people that had really difficult life situations. They had a certain, quote unquote, issue as a kid. Their brain chemistry was different, but this, you know, this ability that to become obsessive or to have that certain characteristic allow them to get through that trauma. So I kind of believe that's you know that. You know that that's kind of all deliberate, but I don't what I guess what I was trying to say is I don't think anyone's born a sociopath, no one's born with those tendencies. I think these are, I want, brought into existence through experience. Yeah, I wanted to an agree and I think on my side of the like at the word is no one is born evil. No one was born and they actually gets out of the bad in the morning goes you know what, today, I'm gonna go commit a murder right like Norman. Norman does that. Yeah, I do...

...think it's like, over the years, situational and is conditional and a lot of like, you know. Yeah, there's a whole aspect. There's a hop about the thing that goes on. I mean, I'm sure the thing and and yeah, just like doing anything wrong, like the first couple of times you do it, like you can feel really bad, but you can actually recover from it. I really have started to believe, and this is something that I actually only really discovered internally not too long ago, like once you start doing something particularly it's a bad thing, if you do that enough, man, you'll become like you obviously know if you do something wrong, you don't feel very good afterwards. Obviously you're able to go like man, why I do that? If you do that thing enough men, that thing will go away, like your ability there to think that will yeah, man, like that'll go away like this. Only we only get a certain amount of time with certain things. So that's where it couldn't get a little bit. You know. Yeah, because that shame or that that that whole inner monolog or the starts getting you know, you just stop listening to it as much. And I think that's important. It's actually funny because talking about Christianity is, well, religion. I think it's in the first testament. First Testament, I think they talk about when Adam and he were born and where they in the EAD got up eaten and the trijent or the the snake or whatever they call him, the you know, the form of devil, came around because, well, hey, you should eat this because but you know, and I guess in a way most of us have those, that the when we end up doing the wrong thing is I'll actually that, you know, tried in order the you know, the snake or the devil, whatever we call it as well. Hey, like we're doing this and then, like, you know, and then when when they ate the fruit and then they go they realize, hey, we naked and they felt shame because because I'm naked, there was the first time they felt shame because they actually eating. This group where they realize all this time is nig I mean originally they were pulled to so the shame actually didn't exist. I think it was the fact that reason, when we listen to that same story, goes like we listen to our girls. Hey, will like I'll go to this fucked up thing. We know, we know not to do those fucked up things, but we do it because whether we're testing the waters or whatever, it is, whatever it is right. And that comes straight back like that's because that's exactly what the I mean. That's a perfect example of that situation. That's a perfect example of what. Yeah, we'll just talking about and iviously. You took it from my backyard. Might very good. Was the Old Testament? The First Testament? All? I just one, yeah, which was you know, I thought that was and that was a really good one because I actually was reading through the I didn't read through those reading through the first testament. Summary wants like different things. Yeah, it's and I was forgot it. If I would recommend to anyone if they're going to, if you want to look at reading it, definitely New Testament first, because it starts with the birth of Jesus and it goes through that. The Old Testament is based like the language that we used at the time I was written. Is, you know, very you know, Malta. It's been translated multiple times and it's the style of old English. Is hard to understand it and even though there's really good content in there. I would certainly recommend the New Testament and go back. But a summary is such a good way of kind of breaking it down because you know, pretty much all of the books in the Bible is actually retelling stories of people's lives and situations. wherefore, was the Romans or you know, whoever it was at whatever period of time. It's actually storytelling. So if you have that understanding of before we go into it actually makes a lot more sense than just these random words coming together. So that's really yeah, that's good advice. Yeah, absolutely, and it was like that was one of my reasons because I was like I was thinking about something and I had a thought pattern that was going through. I was like, hold on a minute, like I remember looking at I was like, Oh way, hold on, let me look that up as a reference, because then I'd noted it down. There's a footlift to the the footnote. So goes. That's an interesting thing to remember because that is exactly what happened when we sort of going to that tradeoff, like sham a kind of situation. Interesting enough, I actually watched a movie earlier today and there was stupide, but we I'm sure you would have heard of it. It's called transporting. Have you heard of a local? No, no, the movie is called transporting, transporting. Yet it's as by. Not yet, it's by the writer, it's by the director, Danny Boil, I think it's called. Is a good guy who also directed a hundred, twenty seven hours, slum dog millionaire, like some of the extremely well movies. Ah, I might have heard about this. Yeah, so the same yeah, the same director. Yep. The reason I bring that movie up is because it's so relevant to what we're talking about. Right. So this movie is about actually the first part first movies about without a trying not to give with the plot, but the first movie is about these drug addicts, right. So basically the injact, heroin and the the first monolog that starts with the guy or the falling. He goes, he goes, you know, basically goes through this life like he goes, you know, choose the flat screen TV, choose a flats you know, choose a football team to follow, chooser. Let me, let me just read it out and because it all makes it a second, you're actually there. You're you looked at. I wish paper...

...could say you like, Oh shit, I did it, I did it. Gets a bad oath. I don't remember, but Brady's not that good. Yeah, that's right, that's right. How about it's nearly one, I am might so we're doing well. Nearly an hour and a half in. Shout it to those men, many millions listening. We love you all very much, all the million lift listeners. All right, so it goes. He goes choose life. Choose job, choose a career, choose a family, choose a fucking big television, choose a washing machine, choose a car, compact disc player, choose electronical can opener, choose a DS why? Choose a did? Why? Wondering why the Fuck Are you doing what? Wondering what the fuck are you doing on a Saturday morning? Choose. Choose sitting on a couch watching my numbing mine, Mine numbing game shows. Spirit crushing, Spirit crushing junk, food stuffing into your mouth. Choose wrotten, rotting away in the end. It wrotting away, in the end, punishing yourself, or the last miserable life you spend it what you call home. Anyway, it goes through all this and he goes choose life, basically explaining in this explains this living what it is right, and I really thought about this morenock and I, if you look it up as well as free I probably did a horrible job at rand. Yeah, right, right, I got it. And and what I thought that was really interesting. I was like, well, is life really that mundane? And I realized what the problem with the whole thing wasn't the what the movie and the director was Ar con means. They lived hollow lives. They lived the life and that's what they always thought. The reason of the talked about choose a job is because the job was just. The job was the job was job to for the choosing a family. Choosing a family was choosing a family because they wanted to choose a TV like. That was just. That was the reasons, because that's what wow, yeah, yeah, that is that makes sense. Right. Then, no one, nothing, had a reason. It was very hollow. And if if you have a reason, and they always goes back to our why doesn't it? Like we talked about this, why so many times and and like that's the same thing with like if you have something, I've reason and a faith, that all changes because all of a sudden, you know, you know, you go well, when you're having you're not consuming those mindcrushing game shows, because that's that's exactly what it is, because those things are always there to numb the pain and that's what we talk about. And it's a fascinating movies, because you may have basically, you may have just answered answered the original question and your Rumbi original question was like what made you, you know, what made you go back to that situation and you know, come back to it. I lost I think I lost my hy like, you know, I felt like I was losing it. Yeah, M and that's why I want to touch on that, because I thought that was pretty interesting, because when I heard that first time, I got like, what are those things called in your arms? Are you guys? When you say yeah, like man, like, this is insane, because I'm not saying that my life is so like mundane, but damn, like, if you think about how many of us actually go through living like such mundane life, without a reason and without a faith or without anything right, it just it's insane. Yeah, yeah, and that's should, yeah, cover everything. And the reason I sort of took a sport of because you went into talking about Christianity. I just want to explain everything you said. Lacklin in like less, not because I'm not saying I don't know to don't agree with anything. The reason I want to explain it in like more life he terms. So anyone who's because all like this is all what we talked about Christianity and now we don't have a belief system here, kind of see. Yeah, yeah, and efficient. Probably also your way of your way of understanding it too, probably a little bit as well. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yes, absolutely, never, never apologize for that, that sort of thing, because it is a difficult they are different conseration. So they have and everyone's going to have their own understanding of it, and you're right, like that's the way people are going to look at it and that's kind of the way it is. You've got a I think there's just certain things for me when it becomes when it comes so close, that like I've got to articulated in that way and I'm always thinking like well, I can compare it to another situation. You know, at the end of the day, sometimes I just have to speak what I see is the truth, because, you know, the biggest, the biggest kind of the when push comes to shove and your time comes up like if you, you know, if you refute me, if you refute me in front of your friends, I'll refute you in front of my dad, in front of God. So like I have to at times, even though it would be the easier way or nicer way to do things, I have to do that in that way, because that's that's kind of how that works. But I think it's yeah, I think will never problem. Was a nice on that. Yet I think I what I I believe. I think this is my but I think the way you said it was probably the nicest, but you could probably the most beautiful where you could. I just wanted to dumb it dump. That's where now you definitely don't done it down. But now you didn't. You did a great job and like you even answered my own question. You did, you found like you drew that answer out of me with you know, really good man. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, that's right, and that's best thing. You know, I hope everyone out there...

...has a friend like me and you are, where we can be a hundred percent honest and open to each other and we don't have to worry about, you know, where our intentional that sort of thing was. So that's beautiful breath. Absolutely, I think this is probably, being over part one of our highlights of the port because it was a there was a right real love. Loved your aunt absolutely. I was like yes, that's that's makes me so happy to here. Yeah, now I definitely want to Mac and later, because I actually felt I actually felt like I was. Sometimes we rant and I get a little bit lost in what I'm thinking about and I try to reach for some things to bring it back in, but I think felt like I'd done I done myself just this there. So getting I was getting your refem that is good. I people who got said this is my north topic conversation that you had the whole thing. I got to when you're doing things like I got to make me. Yeah, so I can bring it back as like yeah, sotaly telling, and this is something we could tap on again again and, trust me, something I want to tap on again and again. Did you have anything else in there? You can see that was like all was that that was your main? Was that your main, big point? And then I want a friend. That wasn't mean point, which is like so one of the things, like a few few things, I mapped out, which was one of the things on which was actually sort of almost works like a ven chart, like well, you talk about that's pretty impressive actually how much he wrote there, which will show the paper, but it was like a probably unreadable anyway. Yeah, I'm sorry. What my biggest like well, like how, and like what? What was the trigger this? somethings may questions really meant, like why? How? What kind of situation like was like? What was it trigger? How did you really like, you know, what was how? We discussed, like why is we doing this, and why is that? You Two? Is the main question, because how is like your how is obviously, you know, Christianity and God finding you to beings. That's your like the those are the things. So, yeah, mostly God and one of the things I did touch on you talking about good you know, whether you believe, and I know you sort of. That was a part where you did say, you know, it's if you believe in Jesus that, if you believe in God, that means you have to believe in the devil, which is one hundred percent with it. Even it's one of those things right where even if you don't you have to believe in the balance. Either way, these are good right. Yeah, in a day minus, you know, you know, positivity, like, think of it like that way, if that makes them more more sense, like those negative thoughts that you have and the positive feelings and thoughts you have as well. That's that's essentially what it is. Is just all I'm doing when I say God is I'm putting three letters the word. I'm putting three letters together and making a sound with my mouth. But that's really what it represents. That's that's that's one hundred percent two, and that's what that's what one is like said. Well, work it. You know, we talk about in so many different times and like, honestly, and I've said sort of said this before, because when people talk about religion is so interesting because people go, and this is something I noticed before as well, noticed in here, was when go of Hey, well, like this is, you know, you say you call your God God, and you mentioned this is. Well, you know, you're calling your God and you know we, you know, is in Islam we call them all. Oh, and you know then you've got, you know, Buddha and like all really, if you look at the core of them, they're all pretty similar. Like, you know, if you believe in a higher power, and like that's what you said like at the beginning, like you know that's what you're really talking about and you can't really deny you know, like you could Google Hey, like in really look at it. Go. Well, you know, you got to believe in something and you can't really go and this is one of the things with atheism, like when they we talked was I'm not saying it is anything wrong with atheism. I think often people don't actually know what they believe you when they say I'm Athis, the don't actually know right about yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't actually know what they're talking about, because many people are met who actually call themselves if he's have actually no clue. They go, well, I actually believe it. Well, then you're not need yet like the simulation. Yeah, seems like a yeah, like a jet, a real actually, yeah, you're good point. You when actually meet too many people that say I just believe there's nothing like once we die, we die like that existence. Most people, particularly in I feel like there's been a big push in in conversation recently about believing in, you know, kind of something external to what we're what we're dealing with, and it's labeled very differently and it's talked about energy and how we're all winter connected and that sort of thing. So I think most people just yeah, either don't know or they yeah, they don't like, they don't see it as it just yeah, I think I think often, often, very often, we look at things so in our own diluted way, like quickly, just talking about that, like what you said, like when you go all, we all connected, right, and I go hey, like that kind of makes sense, because we all collected. Like I mean at a scientific level, we talk about how humans, like you know, we die. We got through the whole cycle of like ending up becoming part of the earth in because energy. It's called the matter. I was forget the name, but there's a law of it, right, concern conservation law, the conservation loss. So basically means whatever exists, the size, the weight of the matter never changes, because it's all just like you know, you burn, you burn a killer of would, basically, right, cool, would, that will turn into, like know, five hundred grams of a smoke, and the rest will tell you too, five hundred guys of Ash.

Like nothing ever gets destroyed, right, so we in. That's and you go hey, like we all linked with. Then again, also in Christianity we say, you know, we all children of God, right, so it's it's really I mean point of view. So for anyone, the reason I want, I was seeing this isles for anyone to go hey, well, your beliefs are wrong. Well, no, you know, you really just people have different views and different beliefs. That's fine. You can never say someone's beliefs are wrong. Yeah, so that's it. Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can never blatantly like. You can certainly have open conversation, and open conversation is the best thing to have, and you can, you can formulate your own opinions and that sort of thing, but ultimately everyone has the freedom and as humans, has the freedom and deserves the right to have the freedom of choice, and that's what we all have to respect, even if you disagree, we all have and know. Yet if you come at it from that angle and if you are dismissing people for what they believe, you know, even though it feels very natural times where I got all this this, you know, this is that's not good like, that's not a good way to think, because you're you're almost putting yourself above other people, and one thing for sure that we can all agree on as us as humans were all equal, man like, we're all dare meek was. No one's better someone else. We're order think. Yeah, yeah, I actually want to for the first but the first time in the podcast, despite the fact I always courtinated, I could books like Bible, I called the old philosopher. Actually want to cut my mum here right, because my mum actually said so. My Mom said to me because I was talking about Islam once. I was like, well, you know, this the kind of used people have. Wisdom. She goes. Well, they have a view of a very small amount, small sense, small group of people who do not represent Islam or Muslims. Right, very loud, small group of people who do not represent group but identify themselves as whether for the profit of, you know, whether for this whole scenario, or the beneficial of the machine, for the machine to work, and they're very loud people. And that's why Islam gets the name it does. And same thing with Christianity. Over the years. People go hey, like this is what Christianity is like. You know, you think of like, you know, the jokes that get made out of net flander and all those kind of scenarios, right. But the key to remember, he think to remember, is those are the very small group of people who are just loud and obnoxious, and that's what's always been as well. You No matter where you look, it's always that small group. That's why they called it the quiet majority or the quiet you know, that's what they call because majority of the people night. In fact, there's a ninety nine percent the question you meet were probably the sweetest people you meet. Like nine percent of the Muslims you meet will be Swedish people you meet. In fact, ninety nine percent the human guide is sweet and Nice. Right, that's what I'm saying. But that one person who is just, like we said, you know, some people, they not they're not borne fucked up, but they over the years, whatever circumstances or whatever, you know, behavior they went through, whatever choices they made, they end up being these people and they feel the need to put everyone through the dread it because because they are always going through this reread and it's like the whole situation, let's say, if you do like have you ever realized if you do something fucked up, it makes you feel better if someone else is doing that thing fucked up? With you, that fucked up thing with you, you know, hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, hundred percent. Ever said, that's what I wanted to say, and it said a lot of the time. The reason with views on religion and the the the has how like that it's because of those, you know, very small percentage, all those bustards who have covid yeah, that's rund that come out of it. Yeah, we'll get it's a late one. Baby is after that, but now that's a hundred percent. Yeah. And unfortunately, as human nature like, you know that the negative often, you know, shines above the eighty ninety percent positive. That a little bit we focus on and you know, that's you know, that's so many people don't like the KKK use, so many talks, so many quotes out of from the Bible, out of context, and Heatler did the same thing, like so many things like. This is well before the war on terror, and we're so many people like that was significant, man, the amount of people that were anti Islam off that like not even comparable. So, m yeah, that's what we all are, not at the end of the day. Man, like everyone has the right to their opinion, and if one has the right to reacting to certain situations is very quickly. But if you spend more than a couple of days or a few weeks believing something like that like this person is disentire group of people because of a small portion of people are wrong and they're evil, then yet there's a lot more that, unless of the media then, which I do more. Well, that's exactly excess. Is the media. They're all bustard. Yeah, they're all bustard gays. Well, it's like their bit there. They're they're tied to their their bloody old, outdated business model and, as we like to say about they're dying there screaming. It's slowly falling and failing and you see human nature of unfortunately sometimes right. You see you...

...see the flaws and people when those sort of things they just they're going all in. Now at least they're. They're still not honest, so you know they're all pricks anyway. But Man, I really just you know, it's one of those things where I need to stop like stretching myself out about it, but I want more people to Freakin realize, like the still so many people that like take this stuff is the Gospel and take this stuff is like word and like just because they're they're on my TV and they got there like men. This thing, this thing has been cropped for so long, you know, there's been financial it's just like politics. Has Been so much money into it for so long. This being hasn't been right for forty years and you guys are still you know. But Hey, the day, man, when covid first started, I was watching a lot of the news too, because I was like, I went from wanting to know what happened to like me and I can't Freakin turn off this crap. But then, you know, I was a saying, as a said, but it did these the one more thing discould clear want to touch on it, which is interesting because, and this is it r I learned about people, right, and especially working in with data and working with facebook and or like working on media, not media, sorry, working on marketing. Like this is one thing I learned. Most people don't really like talking about that kind of stuff, right. They don't want to hear anything that they have to really think about. But they will. They will easily listen things that they can get behind without putting too much thought into it. Right. So, like if it's completely mapped out, they'll be like, yeah, I'll get yes, I'll get behind it. Anything they have to think about and then, yeah, change their way of life. Yeah, becomes too difficult this. That's what you look at. What the whole thing thing with climate change, you'd look at look at that, right. Everyone's like your climate change, but no one wants to change their life. Like everyone. Everyone's there, climate chain, but know what's actually change their life? No one's changing their life. It's this. You same thing with you. Look at what's happening with all the you know, equality movements, and you look at what people are doing, although way, you know, go hey, let's pull pull all these things down, cancel this person, cancel that person. Those are the easy part, because and easy parts and because they are just seem like I've don't got a gotten something without actually changing people's lifestyle. channing with there is one last plug of this hot bread thought I want to do right. Let that one, and I've got a little bit of a control, controversial painon. Tell it to let every one. Now, it's not like that's it sounds good, sounds catter like my much ficity, and we got a look some controversy. So one of my thought patterns was or and just aside, don't like. I do want to say, like I I want the word to be a better place. Right. That's what my God. Yeah, that's my number when I work on another program yeah, that's my number where I one thing I do want to say, though. Very often we always try to fix the macro issues, right, like we're trying to fix like, Hey, let's fix like this whole bunch of group, like, and I think we talked about this last podcast. Right, it's but in order to truly fix problems, it starts with you, it starts with the micro. Doesn't never works with a macro. Like I said, you know Youtube you buy is India's economy is shit. Maybe it's because you don't have enough to you don't have the toilets in the school, Girl's toilets and school. Right. That's what I'm saying, like it's crazy to think about that. Problems that you if in order to for solve major problems, you have to fix micro problem and a large scale. That's that's that's how the true solutions come across, come through like already, like disadvantage, youth, like all that are in a certain population in Australia, like there's always mass talk about that and how how they're, you know, the the unfortunately, that's the way that society is still design and, to be honest, it's knowledge that I don't know. So I don't really know how to articulates exactly. That's kind of one prime example of why they're still disadvantaged in two thousand and twenty. That's it, and the just quickly touch on that and then I'll let you take over. One of the thing. So we're talked about why media is like. That is because I don't exactly know. Don't know what the micro problem there is, but I presume it has something to do with I can make assumptions are something to do with the fact that everyone is too lazy to find information on the old they just you know it. So how do we as a society go hey, okay, you know, fuck you, I'll go finding myself kind of situation? We will all need someone to go hey, like this is what's happening. But what kind of sense it comes through? I would do we start turning two more individual because at the moment I honestly think right now, which is it's probably because of habit that's why they're not going away any we all know. You take away a hundred percent, hundred percent. That's what we can all get better out of. Man, we've got such a great resource out there where we can look up so many different things and figure these things out and at less try it. But anyway, that's right. That's right. Yeah, we gotta have to go back to the library. Brow, were gonna have to get it. We hold on, holding hold. Yeah, obviously did she perfect, right, bro we they never you don't know until you know. You don't realize. Who Realise? But I what I believe in this is my opinion that humans were put on this earth and this earth serves humans. So, you know, we...

...and it's not the other around. So the Earth does not service we don't as people. We aren't, you know, Mother Nature is not our king like we're. Humans are the number one on this earth for a reason. Doesn't mean fro crap, you know, in the in the ocean and do all this thing. Take care of our homes, take care of our belongings. We all own a part of the earth, but I don't think. I think it's the wrong opinion to believe that the earth is the number one. We're just here, we're just here to service the earth. It's still the other way around. We still have to take care of our bed and we still have to make our bed and everything else. But I think as humans, like we're number one the earth. It's not like because I unfortunately have heard a little bit of the talk about, you know, a good thing like all this, you know, lack of business and everything else. The Earth has had an ability to recover and all this pollution. It's not going in the year. And then I've even heard people say this covid was the best thing to ever happened to the world. It's like, well, that's right, because it's destroyed. At least it disabled a lot of the beautiful things of humanity for a while, like hope and love and all that sort of thing. So that's that damage has far outweighed anything else that's counted. So yeah, I think that's probably the how I look at that. But anyway, discuss, discuss, no, actually, not even you, but like in people that are listening, like even you know. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. But I think that's ultimately like a hard truth that I think we have to we have to change our thought about a little bit. No, that makes sense. That makes sense absolutely, and I think this is the interesting thing is, this is what I do want to say, though. We were the way we the we have obviously done things that we should have, and that goes in fact, if you look at Christianity and like any of the religion, to talk about being moderate, right, you know, leave, you know, don't all were consume resources of any kind. Yeah, really, am yeah, you don't really need, need, and that goes back to thing like what's happening with fashion. Like fast fashion is a you know, you look at fast pasions like, well, man, do you really need like five, like, you know, at the rate that came out puts our tshirts, right, you talk about all those possition. I mean a lot of that is unnecessary, right, like you know it's unnecessary. But because, and the funny thing is, we've actually gone on our self in this trap, right, because, let's if you look at how this whole situation works, if experson didn't actually need that many clues, because be person goes, well, I don't care how many close you have, like you know. So the whole thing stop and we still have the same amount of money and we still have the same one of enrichment, but we just don't actually do these damage, which is unnecessary because, you know, we need six white tissues for the six days of the week and Samith day we we're black, one white. Yeah, this is that's what I'm saying, you know. So some of that is unnecessary, which doesn't even make sense. Why people do it? And same thing with you know, like, same thing with like. I don't. You know, I don't think I will never stop eating meat. Probably, you never know. I certainly have got by it. I would be. I'll way this week I'll come down twigging for the that maybe must real I don't. Let's get that. I was just say, you know, I won't start less like yeahever, what ippen going? Like you say, reasons for it? Yeah, what ill? I mean unless all one day I just wake up go, no, I can never eat me again. I certainly hope not. But you know, because I love a good steak right, but better. But, but, however, I would say, though, at the rate we consume meat is probably too high. I do say that because how much waste there is, like, I mean, I don't know, like I don't know if you have many people would have. A lot of people have breaken a restaurants as all busy, because if you look at how they waste food, you look at how much food McDonald's waste. Actually they're pretty good, but you know, you look at how many, because they just actually chuck everything in. You know, brokers, they're like yeah, you got mate, but you know, how much food gets wasted is insane amount, insane, insane amount. And and that's the real problem. And like so much weight is going to waste, and that's what the problem is. Is What my because I don't know if and as we're not taking good care of the earth, like we're not going to be able to have enough resources to provide enough cattle one enough you know, enough dairy and enough meat. You know. So these issues are going to come. But if we take care of the earth and we, you know, we don't over pollute, like we're, the temperatures not going to rise and all this thing, like we're going to have the ability to have our winters and our summers and all that sort of thing. So it's definitely it's definitely like you're not just missing, you know, the world, but also understand. Yeah, like we are the priority here for a reason. And and I think the overindulgence, like it's easy to do. It's almost like spending money just because you have it, like you feel like, like I've got the ability to go to the shop and buy a heapload of things, I'm going to well, you know, just, yeah, just be a little bit more conscious that that need what you have. You're not going to eat as much. Then you're not going to be. You know you're not going to be. But thirty, thirty killers. I was going to say, yeah, you're not going to be thirty killers. Have a weight. If you don't, you know, if you dated for those colors. You know this. This is the part where we get cancel because that's right, at tipped,...

...they're fat s table is one thing. I'm not fair teaming put A. I feel like this is one thing will get canceled. His boy be something to say we do with fat people? Yeah, possibles, right, or saying something like, you know, nine percent of covid death in Australia was so solely because of covid and the rest had underlying health conditions. Guess what? N One underlying health condition was Oh, basically produce. We get we get done for actually saying Matt Murdock's theme is a root. Yeah, seat of Rufit. That will probably is good, as you know. But it's all about keywords. But if we say too many keywords, too much, but the phold come on and it's all over. Man, this this, this, this episode is probably this is the cancer episode. I'm telling you how because I'm actually there. Yeah, who is up there? You know? Yeah, me will come back yet you do. Okay, give me two seconds, Bro. This is like totally off script, but I need to find old mates name. So I'm going to look up nine S, Chicago Bulls, because I know that's when he played, and he'll be there and you'll see his face in a second because he's it's just show me the recent results now. I don't want to see the rice and results. I'm going to look up ninety Chicago Bulls team. And that's a beautiful thing about Google. I get people telling me all the time or what I have to look up. Literally say that sentence out loud, type that into Google, and more often not. Sometimes sometimes you don't even have typet. You just have to think getting your had google. Know it. Yeah, exactly right, exactly right, or goes in on here might hopefully it'll show me a team list in here. If I get a photo, that'll be even better. then. A problem obviously here is, you know, you've got Michael Jordan pipped up everywhere. But Scottie Pippen, I know, was a real good player. He was a real world cards and hit the lifestyle he lived like, I think he dated Madonna for quite some time, like he was a real party so it's just so crazy that somehow he, you know, was able to find his way with, you know, with obviously Kim John, guard Dennis Rodman. I think you can invite Tennis Rodman. Yeah, Oh, that's right, Denisity Rodman. He's a wild man. But yeah, there you go, but I had we had to get resolved that before the podcast ended. Right. I mean to talking about searching. Right. This is something I'm going to plug with you. So interesting. Right, the other day I walked into my room, right, and my room has a Google mini in it, right, and day I walked I didn't see anything, right, and then Google stye playing side looked up something. As looked up. I think I forgot exactly what it was basically I think Google looked up a whole scope and all the day. Often. I don't think it was my whole school because I don't actually leave in hot scopes. Anyway, this was a whole nother conversation. Yeah, however, that'll be deep water. I'm I'm willing to meet you halfway on that one if we if you want to go to town as a horoscope, is that at a war? That's a whole nother Le Pain Rating. Oh, Tarot Guard reading. Anyway, that's a whole nother podcast. Right, but I just could go and do want to touch on this right. What I am google booked and I was google sorry, reading out. However, you know how they have like really universal truth in those things. They're like yeah, today you feel like certain. Google just started tell like started telling me to calm down. I was like the fuck do you mean? How do you know? I'm agreed. Wows hilarious. They getting better. They're getting better. Anyway, on that note, this has been a podcast and a hut. While we are up to that one, our fifty minute mark, we nearly hit to our speaking of getting animize this this we say it every episode, but this was probably our best one yet. Might I loved it very good. Sounds good too, easy, beautiful, bradrapp up, wrap it up, man. I think there's not much more to say. Really appreciate you guys listening and, as always, man, I really appreciate the open chats that we have. Man, I love you so much, brother. Love you to brother. The best part about this whole thing. This is documentation that we can listen back to, and that was the routine kind of this podcast, whether you listen to it or not. This, that's right, are for our amusement, to keep remembering in ourselves. Right. That's it. The nth of September. Two's and twenty, technically is one hundred and twenty six. I am we love you all very much and this has been the clever dumbies podcasts. Peace Out, catch you.

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