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The CDP // Ep19: Quotes that will make you think twice ๐Ÿš€

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast. We have a special guest Conor Mac Cormaic.

We talk about the great quotes over the years and dig deep to find the implications of the lessons found within such quotes. If you want to hear more from Conor check out is an amazing blog at www.halfmanhalfnoodle.com.

Hello, everyone and welcome to episodenumber nineteen of the clever dummies podcast I and lockyis always joinedonce again by aneca gone to my brother, I'm good, my man, I'm good, I'm good!You Sound Nice and loud ter. F, O Picture Clay Asalwa I did. I did buy a newmicrophone about four years ago and ive finally figured out how to use it so,hopefully we're coming for a good baby and Um. I mean it's a sad day too. Idon't think we've gone too many sad they podcas Migt. So we got a littlepeppe in now step and we've got a little special guest too. I thinkcolling in m all the way from Um South Te borner south of nusowas border.They reckon might deep down in the dark weab deep down in the dark web. I mean farfrom me, but not too far I mean about I'm talking about twerty meters, a sayyet the maximum distanceconor Si my solo say hello, conners or Conneris. Myhousemaid and a great friend and oere doing this a beautiful period oflock don in here in Melbourne. We've learnt a lot about each other and youknow we had farbid in common and a Lo, not in common, which is always goodthings to talk about things to learn from each other. So you know thoughtkeep connor and shut out and say hey if you're gon na come on and talk somemadshit with us on the potcast yeah glad to be O, I think we're slowly moreinto one. Personaik were spent anmuch time together over they sad long cone carts say the hairs looks virtuallyidentical and they give him a couple more weeks that B itwill come in real,fast 'cause. He grows it like no tomorrow and you boys goold. Just do Idon'tknowwywwhat av. He Ashul', I could have you one brother. Have youhad the pleasure of listening to any of our other episodes? Migt Ye ive listened to a few sporodicallyUm. Lo Line to bet ye am familiar with itda Fantasic, that's a few more than my family has sa or very good MiG e loyallistener. Here. How good is that brother? We always Li words, appreciate a loyallistener on the PORTCAT. You know. Sometimes sometimes I wonder if we gomore listener. Well, more guess! On the Showan, you know a e e Partican hat. You know we both make up half of yoursand listeners an all that Burte Mitwe, we're here, dry and swing in the AX.It's five, nearly six o'clock, Ond a beautiful sadiavo. So that's Halkey andI boys- and I I guess I got a little question there for you corner, I'm. Youknow pretty much. Every everybody episode meand an EC. You know kind ofgiving our two cents on the covered situation. You could go as deep or asLightin to it as what Y, what you kind of like and Um. I guess what is what isthe last few months been like for you, particularly down oviously down inMelbourne, where you know it's as Tighe as it is anywhere in the country, Ye think for Meisin of it of a mixedbag. I mean the the very beginning was was a bit of a novelty I sort of got todine from work and it was at which was KINDOF. Nice. I've neverworked from home before and then a few weeks hen you know once you've you'vewalked and oftand we've Wen a few nights drink a lot thekila, which was alot of fun, and then I guess there was like. Maybe afew weeks wo just been in a bit of a hole. You know because T it's hard toyeah, it's kind of Om to to motivite yourself tha. You play Guitarre booksor hang out every day, but after a while it it's difficult to keep keepthat ther, we'll keep gone, but yet its passwiles been good. I think, becauseeveryone's complaining so much about how bad it is in Melbourne, it' kind ofmade me feel better because it's just it's Kinda, you know it's not the worstsituation. You could be still still got money on my other ends, and so I'm I'm doing pretty good. At themap. Bhen, it's been up and dine yeah. That's the theme of an Aways thesame we um I work at A. I work at a gym up here and I work at a golf course.The gyms were pretty much shut down from the Getgo, and the golf course wasopen for a little bit, but I was a casual there, so lower on the pack, anorder and they sort of pulled the Um pull the string on me early. Weactually get over half our business in COP's harbor actually comes from Melbin.We get a heap of heap of corporate golf courses, and I mean we have all boywhosdown. There t the CO OF NAB bank like few big boys, plenty of a FL plays, andthat sort of thing, so I wasn't really required at work, and I was the samelike I fo gitty up job seekers coming in it's just like I'm back at Uni, justaffer, I left high school. I don't after work and I'm getting a fewdollars here or there and then very quickly. It's like you know, N andobviously the media and everything else it sort of weirs on your bit and itsort of starts to Wearin. But I think it's, it's kind of you know t they talked about the newnormal and it does feel a little bit like a new normal now, but it certainlyfeels like we're getting close to the end there. It's just like we're kind ofholding out now for like wh, you know...

...when are they gon to make the move andeverything else, but hey it's. You know it's good that we've got a few peopleto talk to, and people out there so t it's a drinky situation, but ac wecould spend all day on. I it call be at the beginning. You know I was playing alot of tantion to the news and t since I've too down back and not en pay asmuch attention to to what the media's Dan, I feel a lot better. It's nearlylike develop anxaty just reading things and fom hereind all hes back. That's why iit, I am the opposite! Il Imean I ie learnet to look through me what media says, but I read I I readI'm on the all the press, conferencs, I'm listening to pall the pressconference, mostly because what my concept there is, I try I wantto get the DREC news directly from when those press conferences are happeningversus read about it later. They have your opinion in Opi theopinion in it because you know obviously I've declared war on media.We have, I guess, we've declared Bor media, so you K,gotta gotta get some of Het but yeah like. I think I hundred percent agreewith that. Like I think, th half of the reason for old anxiety is actually themedia. Like majorly, I mean this. This dy for the past fir or six months.We haven't made a portcast without bagging out media, but you know it'strue, though that' that's what it is. Half of the anxiete actually comes fromthis media by those incredible headlines. You Know Dan O says we'll bein here for another six weeks, jus a readbost from six weeks. Six weeks ago,yeah. I actually had a thought today we're fighting a good fight like it. Itmight not always seem the right thing to do, and sometimes we think like oldpeople, sick of hearing about it, but sometimes you've got to stand up forwhat's right and been far too long that our society's been controlled by youknow a small percentage of the population, particularly the ones, thecorporations that own the media so oit's a be of thing about our pod CAS.We have that avenue and the chance to even if one person hears it, you knowtrying to get an ulterior perspective and once you know how the businessworks Wel, you know they're all folofh it and they're just scared shitless,because their business model is dying. I mean they're attacking social media.Now, for all the fake news, at's lay you Guysla, the you know the roadmapfor all that sort of thing. So yeah it's about I'm happin to figt every day.The week might never run out of TAMFN sonthing, but it is what it is.Obviously, I'm sure the guys listening could hear a little accent. There mightvery Faran Irish accent. Did he want to go just a little bit into made aboutyour? I guess how long you've been in Australia forand? What it's like m? Inthe I mean I cill be the best country in the world. Pretty much is Um. Yeah. I've been herethree years come up three years in October, um in Melbourne. Originally from Irelandlive in England for a few years. I was a teacher for a few years and struggled with it. It was just not thecareer for me and then I think, like a lot of people when Yureyou're doingsomething you're, you don't enjoy the the next logicalstaffi to go traveling for a while so travele for a few months and quitecommon for a lot of Irish people. They always end up in Australia and when Iwas younger a lot of the people o I new who came to Australia Wee, probably nott e to people I would have you know so hid with e they're all going tobondibeach. I used to think like the last BIF I'll ever go areally hundredpercolve yet and then it just came run to it and we wereover the side of theworld in Asia and I thought well give it to go. Came to Melbourne, had o Matfrom Unijer who was over here during the themes, wort of worked Um and then yeat. It's the time. It's justflown ever since it', Aore good time people over here, as everyone say,still let back well, I is grit and I mean the weather. Sometimes I is quiteNi. I like that. Sometimes it's quite looking at the window and the canthinking, but is not one of those days, but you know once and ever every once, every fivedaysis pretty good yeah, no well take it down there Migt we'll renownce E. Iguess I'm sure you get every every man his dog. I see this but hot topic: hot,take, conomagre, national treasure or staying on t e, The Nation of Ireland.Might what do you reckon it probably depends what the stage ofhis career. You know you'R E you're, looking at Ishall some some of the this things and some of the things hestood for were ude like I don't follow, Hem too much but again tremandousspider. He he reas the profile of you after it seems an incredible level. Hekind of mixed that, like sor of shiptalking, that used to be inrastling American ration. When I was young, you know that trash talking kindof thing, Yeah Double Yep, but I think as well. A lot of the his anticsoutside of the port are pretty Um. Pretty pretty questionable and on'tknow ever thing buout him, but I think something he's en been really good, butit's one thing anywhere in the world.

You go it's like one of the firstthings people will say to you, especially when your name is withConnor as well. I felt like I felt, like CEESE, I'm going to go down thatthe bloody cliche Evenu there, but I thought I' as SI'm a big US Fens O. Icouldn't help it but um interesting fact before he made his US eb dw incertain thirteen. The original owners of the RC- they were the fatituerbrothers, they big Um uh, they own casinos in Vegas, and theythey value. They were looking to sell the. U S C, twent Ad Twelve, twentythirteen for about one point: Five BN TIN and pushed two billion a few yearslater. Ono comes in, you know, kind of blows the whole thing up and the end up,selling for nearly four and a half billion dollars, so him him alone,cotlydid that then e's sort of worth that- and I agree like it, it's unfortunate the things that havehappened outside of the cage- and I think it's just a you know as a youngguy who who got thrusted into the spotlike, and he spoke really well.Some people had like this misconception that he had it all together, but he'sjust like anyone else I's Goingto make his mistakes, but he's got a couple ofkids now so hope he sort he turns it around, but Um. You know it's Um Yeah. I guess it's one of those thingslike that you're, as going to have people on one side o think like I, theGuyand, then the other ones like a's amazing, Ka, go wrong, but anyway looklig going. I think he was. There was sometalk of him building sort of hyzint project or something in a nd were likelower income families, and I'm not sure if that was off the back of some sortof scandal, or it was actually some sort of good filo problem, ithTronerveria. I think it was yea, so I mean I guessyou know. If he's doing it, that's fantastic, but Y. I think it was off.The back of one of these yeah got there's a couple of things like he hadone where he he punched, a bloke in hi in in a bar, because he'd refused todrink his whisky. The proper toll whiskey. What's he done, he obviously had the whole thing withfloyd. He had some sexual asol accusations that, thankfully, wereproven to be false. ECAUSE, that's one O thoe things he can't really come backfrom and and just a lot of partying. So a guy that had just all this fame andthen you know he sort of Seeh fall again, but M he's Gome back, which isgood but anyway not for that Mi. We obviously had were speaking just beforewe sarted the podcast or wanted to. You know had a really good topic to talkabout today, a little bit of like an overall life topic, so you want to Leavus into it night you'll go in just before I go doing toThath. What I wanted to say was H. everyone is equally fucked up EAN, youknow it's so often we, you know, look and you know Romanticize all thesepeople, because they've th status and watcin ll, because you know they theyjust try to deal with problems as much as we are like. You know it's funny,because Um Connat actually got me onto reading these books meditations byMarces arellas and, like I was reading this book. I was a cyclic. You know youthink about the potposes beyind that guys, like being a Roman emperor. Youknow he was trying to make sense of life equally as much as we are like atthe time you know and being one of the most powerful men in the word andsamething goes Toc like not conna conner, but the other Conomacrega is,like you know, he's doing the same thing: Ou knowwes we're all going to befucked up so, which is which is a really nice set where Itwasin ralbutterthat' trit like a first conmimmerse of his cind in the industry. So now that'sa really good point yeah and you look at just beber he'sanother great example. You know a young person, W gets intothing and people gowell. He so fucked Ono me what what else did she expect? I mean he didn'tknow any better. He had no struggles in life like what did you think was goingto happen? You know so in fact it be it'd, be a fool's Therran to think thatperson will just turn out Tu not be turnd up and be a person with full ofvirtues. I think that's that bful terin to think that way, but the anyone thatrings us to nicely Segue into our today's topic, which is that you knowoveroll overarching. I suppose, like you, know some life lessons from someof the greats of orther years. You know, may be caught from a movie or maybe acoat from a book. So we a a focus on those courts, and you know we all hearthose courts, and you know we always forget about those couts. What was thatC again the subjects of my life, so you know we'll go through t e conneractually came up with this ideas like well. Let's talk about a court anddissect a particular court like I like c moon to us and you now it's a littlebit of a ship from what we normally do. Ou Talk Shit skit of night nice. I, like Nice,little shift ire Soltn, it's always good, so you know you bring in newblood and you mix thing up: that's what that's how the game works. I make a potAV D Hart time. Marceserelias and Jutan beaber have been put together, anellthe I W wave, groundbreakirs, EMA, no it'ethat's exactly right, so we'realreay studying with it's a good start. So we got e pit of options here and UConner put together Lid andlist as well, so right off the bed. I am going to startwith a cut that I actually read earlier today, which is in fact m...

...this righe of the bed, and the way ismy cot theythey're it I mepatience is bitter but I's fruitis.Sweet ASTOTL is the court. I mean a lot of. It is self explaentary, but give mea tods Ku. You want to go first corner yeah. I I think that that great and very like I've always find a quote tobe great for sort of some temporay motivation, because I fiund a lot ofthings. I've done in my life. I can't e expect instantaneous results. You knowif you start Um metbe TA, ver exampl, you started andyou work out plan and within you know, two weeks y you're feeling all thisgrosth and you're like whow. This is thi is Amazand Hen. You get that dip.Where we're not much happens, you don't get that beginner's beginner's growth aand then that's, definitely where I fall off the wagon on a lot of things.Um and a cout like that is, is do hal n helper mind you that things tape timeUm yeah. I like that. I do like that. I di too, and it's actually prety funnyI'll et that cout the other day, because I was riding an article asinsenseive relationships and which is pretty interesting because my thought better than they was wastalking about you know. Peoplewho are often in o single and kind ofdesperately want to be in a relationship, and you know it's it'sand they end up making certain decisions. That may not be great justbecause you know theyre, they just cannot wait for the end result and Ithink sometimes nd kind of touching on what you said. Conno thereis, but likelife, is kind of like a movie or you know. Sometimes you have to wait tofind out what happens at the end or the good thing is you know. Life is a longmovie if you compared to movie, but you know so sometimes you got a wait to seewhat happens for when in terms of relationships. What do you think thatthat the Paten's aspect is just wit and to sort of find someone you con actwith, as opposed to Russian, to just get into relationship with someone forthe sake of of Derit? Well, I I think there's MBT, there's that aspect forsure, but there's also the aspect of the first thing is I don't want. Idon't want. I don't like the idea of sitting around hoping that someone willjust knock on my door, be like hey. I love you. You are the love of my life.I don't think that will ever happen, but what could happen is instead of youknow, th the Jessar youll go through t e few fail relationships, and probablyyou feel like you still have to make tha effort. I think that's the Wy. Alot of people go wrong. That C court could be Takeng the wrong way. Well,I'm just going to sit here and wait, but I think you still have to you know:go through your. U You know your number of Yailrelationships or sometimes or you know you go into a relationship and youmight have to be patient to see if that works out or whatnot, but I think itrel patience, parplays, huge role in life and relationship, but in just myexample, I want to use relationships th, even when your even when you're in a relationship,sometimes you have to be patienc patient just to actually, you know,keep the other person room for Cerin scenarios and be patient to You, K toput up with their problems, and you know, deal with Thei pombs andeverything. So I think that aspect was that was my example of ish. I think it it's it's so true, because sometimesyou don't want to wait for things, but you know you gotta, do it and like juststouching on your example, I think I talked about this in a previousportcast. It's it's easier to get off the high of the motivation with you ofDavid Gogin that you just watch and to Ta run out and you're like well. Whatnow you know what soon as you get to what now and that's what happens with aload of addiction as well. People fall off people relapse. When the. Whennothing happens, you know 'cause, you don't like, or you read a book any ofthose things when you do you don't see the results until like years down thetrack like with the benefit of it, but I think it's it's that cort is justkind o perfectly sums it up. You know, patience is bitter, it's hard, but thefruit is sweet. That's right and just like anything, it's it'd be likeacquiring a new skill. Getting your degree Um. You have to go through that process inorder to reach the Engo like thats. The reason why it's systeize, you can'tjust go from adens edge straightaway, and I guess it's all about you knowthat's where you can really use pespective to help yo get through itand, like I have to go through this difficult. I have to go through thebitterness to get to the sweet throat at the end, but it's it's almost human nature.Right like you, you do something you set out a goal. That's like the firstthing you do ou decide what you want to do: Whan, there's a gold there. Soimmediately like I that's what I want to reach. That's not the hard part.That's the easiest part is actually getting through. It's that it' y knowit's the process of getting to that in goal. So I guess that that quoteresonates for me a lot because I'm you know naturally a pretty impatientperson. I'e certainly had to learn in you knowthe last couple of years. In my maturation as a person, I've had tolearn how how critical and key patience...

...is, and we have to be patient becauseit's you know anything good in life that you can get quickly. Probably isnot all that good rights just like anything, so I mean patience is better, but it'sfruit is sweet. You can apply it to kindof anything in life, but it's thebitterness of the patience that Kindo. You know, that's what you need toreally that's the real skil. It's like it's the process, an not the engulsirthat'sanaristotles known for a couple of good, quite mit. So that's that's!Probably one of his bedders. I'm quite often you know you sort oflook at people and the position they're in and you you never really think ofwhat they've gone through to get to that peech yeah. You know you look atYo top top athlete or somehonys by uxaslin business. You think. Oh they'vehad some good break said the doctor genetics. You, don't you don't say thehours US put in and like their patiencs to put in yeah. That's, I think sport I've beeninterested in sports. Since I was a kid, so I tend to relate a lot of things toit. But sport is the perfect example of it because you M, you see a whole bunchof professional athletes play together and but there'there a few. That hasbeen it's just like anything, that's the best and the best and the reasonwhy they're there, like they're all genetical, if you're a professionalbaske player, you're all genetically gifted, you were all born with specialtalents. You all had good breaks and opportunities, but it was who waswilling to bite that bit appeil and who was willing to put in the extra workand grind and get better if thei craft in order to get to the end goal inexact, same sort of thing with business, and you know even entertainment andanything like that. It's like who's willing to put THEMSELV WHO's willingto be the most patient who's willing to put themselves through the most hourson the court. Like that's the one thing that they spoke, I'm in many very goodthings have been spoken about the late, Great Koby Brihter. That was his. Thatwas almost the biggest thing Itas like he was just willing. He was there atfive am every day like he's a well champion, 'so highest played play inthe Ye in the League for years, but if there was a new guy on the team hespoke and actually at his funeral and he's like came into the side, twoThousan and eight thitnd nine, I awas the new guy there. So I wanted to getin and show everyone how hard of work I was. I got there at five. Thirty firstWHON, there Kobe comes in at six o'clock seazes there at five, thirty,the next day Koby's in there at five old boys getting in there at five firtylike what the Hill's going on n an and Kobe's the first one to leave. I SARthe first one I get there, the last one tat leave and that's kind of thementality of the one percent of the elite, and we can all take little lifelessons in that regard as well m. But now that's very good. I was havingobviously look at the document you sent true here and I guess we can move ontoanother one here, and I really like this one as well. No amount of anxiety makes anydifference to anything that is going to happen, and this this one Kindo isclose related to the other one in the sense like it's so deeply ingrained inour human nature. T like we think about it situation. We might be going on adate with a girl or we might be presenting something to a group ofpeople and we always go to the worst case. Sedario like we always bring thatanxiety on what if this goes wrong. What is this goes wrong and it you knowit, so I don't think I've ever been in a situation, maybe once where myabsolute worst, what could happen? The worst nothing's worse like it's? Neverthat bad- and it was always like this feeling of like- why did I stressmyself out for so long? Why did I waste all this energy on the feeling ofwhat's going to happen instead of actually preparing, so no amount ofanxiety makes any difference to anything that is going to happen. TheGreat Allan wates wall, if you boys, want to Leve load and that one a littlebit better, but that one he time like I do it all the time like if ive Havcovered conversation with a person, you know I's going to be a typicalconversation. It brings on some anxiety and it FA. It's all right, like nothingeven happens, it's one of those things. You need tobe made aware of that to consciously think about it. 'cause, I thinkinstinctively yeah. You naturally do just worry about things, 'cause, that'ssort of human nature, but I find whe. I keep thing agotten in my head, you sortof go! Oh well, you know ad, you can control tha situation. You can dosomething to make the worry disappear, or you can'tand either way you either do something or you can't control it. So there's nopoint in worrying really and it's difficult sort of getting your headaround that, but totally something you have to Geep in mind, uh, difficult conversation, N and maybesomething that you get better at as you get older. I know. Definitely when Iwas Moader, I probably spend a lot more time, procract and not doing things out offear of what would happen. I could probably just Bitin the bullet anddoing it Dong it that's right and you're right.It is so deeply like in inside of a dn a that like for years, I had a naturalamount of anxiety. Whenever I thought about a situation, I didn't evenrealize it was something that I brought on. I thought it was ast a natural partuntil I was made aware of it, and I yeah I'm actually doing this to myselfand I can actually an certainly that's one of those things. You kind of figureout with knowledge and then also with the experience of it but yeah Yeh and,I think sorry, Onna no you're gon, I my...

Qit, is huge, so you culs, arguing over the size of our point, er think anxiety seems to be quite a topical issue at the minute as well.Our generation seemd to be very H, seemd to be very anxious or veryfocused on anxiety, so it it seems like a good thing, to keep mind now, evenmore so than ever. Yeah mental health is huge. It's so interesting because right, H,it', it's a great example, because Dokeba inxiety right in the first thing is our generation isprobably you know high up on the anxiety scale. I mean there is alwaysthe aspect of the fact that how much of it did get recorded before you know.That's there's always that questions that O was it. Is there a chance thatwe weren't just recording anything about how many people were getting? Youknow had suffered anxiety, thereis. That aspect then there's another aspectof. I wonder that if our generation is generally just more incients right, sothese few levels stood that I I can see it I mean. So it's almost notnecessarily it's almost a question as wot to see what you guys think. I meanfirst aspect that they is. You know I guess it's alimination process. Thefirst thing is, I do think that our generation spends a Lo like I do too,as Wl, like everyone spends way more time, worrying about things thanactually trying to do something. So we spend K W bu X, amount of time,thinking about doing the task than actually doing it, so which probablydoes actually cause us a lot more ansiety, because perhaps his comfort- and perhaps itHavn't has you know Prof. perhaps we have the you know, ability to actuallyprocrastinate a certain thing and then you know than toacwithout facing theinstant consequences, because you know from what I know if, if you didn't payrent of you know a month's rent, you would be kept out for if you you know,go back like you know, thirty years or so right, you know youwould get kicked out because the the rules were stricter because over theyears weule become more compassions and these rules of compassion and all thosecompassion grounds. So you w you, don't geten it out straight away. So I wonderhow much of it is you kno before it was like? Well, I have to pay the rent I'mfeeling incies about. Where am I going to get the money it was like? Well, Ihave no choice. Otherwise, I'm Wen, I kik o n the house. No, it's more so ho.I have a month to man to procrastinate this because you know I am reallyinterested about it, because and and that's interesting and nottalking about you mention about going on a date which is so fascinating. Somany people do this and you Kn W. I'm I'm I' theas, well, no different, butit's so interesting because you're not losing anything. I mean you th. How isit that the Tou ofsome one of the most beautiful things in the world thatgoing on a date with a beautiful woman? I pe woman is giving you a time and youfeel scared about it. You know if you really think about it, so that's Kindo,that's Kinda! T's! The whole concept of anxiety is just kind of anti intutivehappens all the time. So I think it really needs something that we need toall. We oll need to pay intention to like. Why is it happening? Like youknow, and obviously social, media and Conera were talking about this earlietoday it like doesn't help insiey, I mean so the conce social mediais, notnew, but it's th how much it has ramped up h, different the content that weareou kN w feeding ourself, that's the problem. Obviously we had magazinesbefore and all those kind of stuff, so that was also causing people inxiety,but it wasn't just at a Skale that we do now? U Know, as soon as you turn onour social media, you say: Four people whoe, like you know, have ferraris anda lmbocine, an age of nineteen you're like well or cleairly, I'm doingsomething wrong with my life, and so you start questioning your choices.Yeah when e t the trial period of human history, I think, obviously we you knowwith the first generation to be born, essentially we're a little bit olderthan the birth of the Internet, but KINDOF born into it. So wee kind oflike the trials like t e, Ariht, goodlick, guys so wer. That's why I Fhi,particularly in society. It's really comein to the forefront now, becauseit's never happened before Ri Yeah and before I guess you could onlysee the lies of celebritis who you would expect to have more things thanyou have but na as an Egtan. You seeing pictures of nineteen year olds, whomight not be veamous. Boutd have a lot of wealth and coming back to the ideaof the deep, I suppose you feel anxiety, because maybe it a sort of self tiedhim oself worse than somewhere you're anxious, because you might not be goodenough for that person or you might get turned on and the more. I guess you look at the lives of otherpeople, you sort to think you're not doing enough. Maybe that's possibly why ixate seemsto be higher in our generation. Yeah. There's a there's really there's youknow, Beyou know been quite a large...

...shift in conversation in the attentionon mental health and Um. Even Ouh, depression and anxiety aretwo separate things. It's Oftin, an overwhelming amount of depression iscausing you to be anxious. 'CAUSE, you Gat Change of situation or your you'reso depressed that anxiety comes so th, y'r they're, both reallyimportant, and it's great that the conversations but W we're all kind oflearning about it. So that's why we, no don't necessarilyly, have all theanswers. We can only relate it to our own lives and my dad would always say.Like you know, people didn't talk about it when I was younger and we didn'thear it Anywhey, but it didn't MINU, it didn't happen and we just in a good wain one way. That was good because it wasn't so heavily at the foul front ofPeople's minds. People kind of got used to it as a normal part of life andmoved on, but at the same time like how many people had to suppress thosefeelings and how many people wanneeded to have conversations with loved onesand friends, but just didn't know how to because it's like what are youtalking about? Just smile beep feel better feel better, be better that yes,it's a Rul, it's a real trade off. Isn't it a little bit and it'Llit'll?Probably take you know ten fifteen years as to se the efacts of whatgeneration I like o yeah. I've got a little bit of a unpopularopinion here and I do want to just quickly just to top it off talk thatall off? U Know, I'm Goinna collect some hiters here. I do, however, wantto save with all that in my insiety's real depression Isreal. However, thereis also increase in the victim culture of Hey. I have anxiety, despite thefact that it may be just the general, far of CLA IEAN or e Te poersolf right,yeah, that's exactly wry. Everyone has problems, but I've also noticed therise in the I've got anxiety. Have you mediagnosed? No, but I'm self diagnosiganxiety, the INTERESTI. You know M H. I rising the anxiety of people just claiming thatthe havinsitand using it as a reason to not not not to get away with from not doingstuff. You know. Well, I can't go to the gym because I wain Whati a Um. Youknow Um and I I think that's also to keep in mind. Obviously, I'm not saying that anxiety is not real,but what I am saying is days. There is a part of people who almost play thatwell, it's kind of cool to be the victim and kind of cool to be the onewho just kind of hangs out at home never leaves because if gos social,enxiety and they've got all the anxieties under the sun, it provideshim like another excuse and that's the result of why they're anxious in thefirst place, 'cause they weren't, making certain steps in the rightdirection. They weren't pushing themselves past their point of you knowcomfort, but now they almost have like this inbild excuse, like hey, I don'thave to Daok B'cause. I have this so yeah, that's unfortunte and anunfortunate side effective of kind of. What's going on, that's areally good point, and I mean not quite common with a lot of things, reallyisn't it that you know someone could be ceverly overwight and that could becomea a reason for not losing wik. You know you mayoa would be eor royday, yeahyeah and it's that's a similar similar thing only inen different to me and Ithink, because it's sort of a mental uh ting, it's o treated differently. Iguess, if you don't, if you don't have the tools or you don't know what thetruls are to to help with anxiety and then you're, also not in he positionwhere you w. You know someone goes to you Ahow, but you try LE steps andyou're not in that mantle SPEC. You don't want to in the same way, ifyou're, you know, Plan Times I my Lifenot Tin of wit, and been justeating like a king and drinking drinking too much and someone's like.Oh, you know why? Don't you try doing this and you're like now, I'm having apretty good com, yeah yeah, yeah e e, Quick Hod, a bate on yeah, and I thinkyou know I it's hard to speak too much on it, because you know I don't haveany practice in the medical field, but medication. The rise of M prescriptionmedication over last ten fifteen twenty years is certainly contributed to that.Instead of a psychologist or a doctor working kindof working away through the problem and trying to find the root of the problemand exploring that Avenue, fruitist conversation in open communication,it's like okay, you're, not feeling the best his you know his murder, copene orHeis. Something just to make yourself feel tit better. He is something tohelp you sleep when really what that does is it provides a short term relieflike I was on. I was on any tepresents last year. It provided that short termrelief that you felt, like you weren't at least getting drowned by this thing,but at the end of the day it wasn't actually fixing me at all. It was justproviding like a little bit temporary support, and I mean it's reallyunfortunate, but you look at you know all the Mashshootings in the: U S andplenty of crime in the world, almost all of that those people ere on certainmedication. So it's Um, it's that's kind of the medical field is kind of.Let us down on Fortue a little bit in that area too. Do you find by dakingthe ADI depresson helps you get to a clsto where you could implement otherstrategies, which you know withoud yeah, that's right sow. I worked with mypsychologist a little bit farbit and she really helped the H. only. My onlyreason for takeitg was actually to help me sleep like I just wasn't able tosleep the KON my anxidy had gotten so bad that I wasn't aver to get rest atnight and you know within a couple of...

...weeks of taking it. I you know I felt like I was able tomake decisions and I was able to kind of yeah kind of work back through like.Why am I feeling this way and k? I wasn't just so overwhelmed with emotionthat I couldn't do it and n yeah, so that's that's Kindo how it helps, but Iwent into it knowing like I didn't, want to be on this thing foreverlikeise. This is ony meant to be temporary and I put on I put on tenkilos in two and half months, and that made me feel even worse, I', like aSaanditat it the way I am like I'm so damned supeficial any. If, if I sniff acheesebug I put on to Kylo Sir likefthat kind of my own make up alittle bit, but I could see I could see how people that's of trap and people.You know, take this stuff for the rest of their lifes, because it's it's aBande, it's a temporary effect. It's self medicating N in an example, butthey certainly have a place like I'm not here to advocate that we shouldstop using them these heaps of medical literatary that supports their use. ButU M that. One big thing that I actually found out from my doctor is like youcan go on the cycle once they usually give you really low doseage. Then theytry to Wen you off and see how you go. Second Time you get a little higherdosige youill get weaned off again, but be careful because the third time yougo on it, you have to take for the rest of yourlife. It does I it it. It has such an effect on your your your homones in theway. Your brain functions are that third time or your third cycle,essentially, if youve tried to say, get off at a few times that, third time yourun there a lot of the time. That's the final! THAT'S THE FINALT STAW! Yourbrain actually needs that to function for the rest of their life. Like T at's,that's what he said to me like Ol, my second time so he's like. If you stopnow just be careful, this third time can be serious and thers. A heap ofmedical research has been done on that. So that's Um, I think, just not to get any Rabl alittle bit more onseverity right would would tur that that's good! You R havethat conversation I'. I've heard like quite a lot of friends. Who' m been ondifferent cycles, aouty depresses and that conversation never really happens.It's more of a udiculous to solve this. It's it! It's better! The way you sort of thinkabout it going. You know I want to be in this for a while to control thesefeelings can get off it and you understand the risks and and wordsgoing. That's right, I'm very blessed up hereto have a really good doctor, and I was also doing my own research and you know'cause. I knew I. I just knew that anything like you wan to be. Would Ihopefully leave your life without needing anything like? Obviously, youcan have a drink here or there, and you no have a smoke here or ther, whateverelse havieg some fun, but you WANTA. You know you want to be kind of reliantupon yourself. So that's what prompted me to do that. So I was really blessed, butunfortunately Yo know there are a lot lot of doctors out there and we'veprobably all been to doctors. I can rember heaps of times up into a doctorwhich jis, like you, another number get in I'll. Put a band ote on it, see yournext week kind of thing. So yeah, I think greater education in thatdepartment, too Wou d would really help athey. It is what it is. Um Yea anywaymight des Tat is what it is baby. That's the sho the showthat might be wenight have to rebrandit is what it is. Welcome to the only it es what it isSur. It is what it is, O you, an get, cenny rabbit hold tereitreally get no. I mean I I don't have much to say to that. Like I, I thinkI've been pre, blessed um o the years. I mean I'd like to think it issomething to do with my own ability to learn about different things and myability to Um. You know use the knowledge that I've learned to becomemore become more suffyself sufficient and Prino Lacno,never go so far down in the Rabbit Hall, where I am actually suffering. Yeahfrom since I ohe 's been a really mentally strong person and you'vealways been ae even when you were upset, you've always been able to try to soyou're a problem solver by nature. That's why you're so youusiness, Ithink yeah. So I think I think naturally the naturally there was thatand then on top of that I've. You know, I've read a lot andI've done a L M in o looking into it and I've always been. I mean I neveralways was the prerson who read alow, but I started reading a different cTrie learning that hey everyone supeas that like yea and we fixd that Partotaing. So I think I've been lucky in that sense O. I don't understand toomuch. I I shouldn't be the person who says a lot about this, but whos jellinglike that. Its intest me said up because you know from what I read youreadin the other day about when you had your head injury a few years ago, likethat's a that's a huge incident that wer most people would put you in thedepths of despair and comand. Coming back and recovering from something likethat, I would imagine Ti's incredibly difficult, like I think, you're in aperfect position, O gon talk e, overcoming difficulty and keeping in apositive epise, really 'cause like when I was raisind to Corit. I I was well mutter difficultly that must havebeen so itsjust nattually the way you 're allyour life. You had the the right for...

...tof mentality, but that must have beensuper beneficial. I think I mean th that scenary and seeThi this. I hat ir saying I think, because I obviously it was he likeextremely difficult, but I saw it as this is how I saw it um? U M the way Isaw it. I was like well what are my options here? I can sit here and, likeyou know, sit here and be sad about the fact thatyou know all of a sudden. You know I went from being P, like you know, beinga you know, a person in his you know, teenage years and actually having theability to do all these things in life. To you know, all of a sudden, hey, likeive, being told that I have to stay home for three months and also by theway you can't see perfectly from your right eye, like all these things put ermy offcions day, like you know I like for me that was pree when I saw it, Iwas like okay. Thi is like this is going to be hard. But what are theoptions really there's two options. There was always two options. Oneoption I can sit here and you know be sad which I was which I was sed and Ithink I wrote that as well. I would like at there were times I wouldactually generally cry because not because- and I didn't cry because I wasin pain- I cried because I was actually how much I was impacting people aroundme. You know and, like you know, my mom Havhas to continuously worry aboutthings and, like you know, like her life, like M, doing the whole process.My MM, like I, could see my mum's here just going gray like from dealing riht,eand and- and that was more like scary to methan anything else, because I was like man, I'm like putting people lettingpeople down 'cause. I was like well for me. It's all pretty simple like I'mlike you know, I was like well, I gotta get back like this northe t. Otheroption is to actually sit here and be sad, and I didn't see myself doing thatbecause I was like I'm not gon Ta, I'm not Goin TA. Let anyone ever feel sorryfor me, even during my surgery, I couldn't I couldn't like. After do. Iwas in the hospital the thing that I didn't like the mostthat people felt sorry for me, so I would use humor to change pe like, likeyou know, use humor because can remind people like I'm. Not You don't need tofeel sorry for me. Dont Knot, a vegetable you guys, I'm still with YI'm oin. I I think that, like perhaps that waslike, I think that was a good test to see where my mental strength was that I think I in thatYoner. You know you hit the nail on the mark there. So you're right, but Ithink for me was it was alile bit easier to make tha choices and at leastI feel comparative to people because to me, I'm still here and I I feel like Igot through it completely fine. In fact, I came out stronger and my attitudechanged for the rest of my life. Like know I mosto time you you rarely evercatch me really being done so ping penspective for you, aftersomething like that you're not going to be you're Goin to be annoyed if Youre,cocoa, pops or deal in the morning e Lik bigger stuff than this yeah. That's a e upset in traffic that I mean I C still. I still get upsetover slowintidman. Nothing minds me a more than a Floyeh. Most first worldwas with Jagges all the time, but now that was that was you know that was Iwas such a great reed and anyone who's listening now, an hasn't checked thatout pleased to it's just it's good to have that kind of Tha ulteror Mperspective of a situation that many of us haven't gone through like asituation that you're very close to no longer being with us. So having thatperspective, it just shows the strength of your character and the quality ofpeople that your parents are like. They obviously raised you to have thatdesire in that work. If I can that's one thing I've started to realize: IsI've getting orders? You know I initially teenage years and kind of post highschool, I had so much resentment and I would always think about the thingsthat my parents do or the things that I did that I didn't like and then nowit's just like mean there's I wouldn't be who I was without them. You know anI love Ho. I am so yeah for Sur and honesty. Despite the facthow difficult those times people can everyone get get through that andthere's one thing I do Unerstan that's what I said in the article is well,which kind of surprised me not surprise me, but I was for somereason. I didn't think that would be the case right. I didn't realize howmuch like the fact how important people are in your life. I think allther years,I've learned that more and more- and I I try to do- I try to geve valued like I try to makepeople realize that I appreciate that they are there, because one of the bigreasons that I did get through it is the fact that you know locom. was theybasically coming to see me every day my parents war there. You know my friendswere tey and I thought that was if I was at home by myself. That would havebeen ten times more difficult. If no one came to see me and now I just feltleft out from everything you know. So That's interesting as well to me thathow much that people help. So that's why it's kind of goes. A shout out topeople like who, actually, if you have a friend who's, going to something likeyou actually needed to talk to him, I mean th H. I liked the idea of thewhole r Ok day. I mean it's turned into...

...a big sens sensicialized media apropnow, but I mean I like the idea of Ey like why check up on someone once oncea fucking year. RIHT, like you know, if you really trow a people like starttalking to people and make sure they never you don't actually need to get tothat one day and be like hey at, like it's kind of like about implementingthat thought in your head to check up on people. Not just you know the fifthof September, whenever it is it's making this daily thing or Ogies, Iusually speak to this person a bit more. I haven't heard from this person like Ijust might just check in and see if they are okay or not say y. Ah, that'sa really good point. You were going to say something. Ioulte trilled of sort of hae ts same idea, bout that ruka that it was it as sort of pointless people asked him once a year and thenthe more I thought I thought well ere. If it even triggers people ask once ayear, that's better than better than never doing it. Yo Tro ye Pan Locklin,then maybe it'll get people to think a bit more offeen people who aren't intheir lives all the time and it encourages people to dig think O itdeeper than those superficial. You know water, Tulor, chack by Jo Bachelor orwhatever's on on TV, want to Stan on society. That is Byi' wo. I O into that from what you were saying. There was agood quote by Marcus Orea and he says that when you arrive in the morningthink on what a frashous privilege it is to be alive to breathe, to think toenjoy, to love, Um, there's a Momento Mori. I think it's a free, anit's the whole concept of you coa. You could die at any any moment really likedeath's inevitable and he hesa Roman philosophy was all thoing. It anemperor and he used to Tis thought that when he was putting his daughter to bedat night, he would just be aware of the thought that she could die in her sleepand it is, it's P, pretty dark an on fece value. You think he' He's thinkingabout his child dying, but he's just being aware that you don't really knowwhat's Goingto happen and you should you should try as much you can o reallyappreciat every moment. I think experience like what you you had a make something nothing like. I would ever wish that tohappen to myself, but I often think you know if you've got a ner danceexperience. It must really put things into perspective where you go here, I'mwithin time doing these things I'm getting annoyed, but these stupidthings people are doing. You really sort of realize whatmattered. Oh one hundred percent. I actually Imean I, I think there was something I'm not sure if it was in the article butor maybe it was in the portcast I on sa I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't wish itupon on anyone. But man like I'm O and I don't want to say I'm grateful forsomething Bader Han happened. I mean I'm guess I'm happy that I'm alive butma'am, like the shift in perspective that you get from something that youlike Daay, like the B, the biggest thing for me that I was that I keepsaying I was like holy shed. Life is so short and like Knon in a scary way likea M in a way like men. I thought I could do this tomorrow, but I can'tbecause tomorrow's no Guanity- and I really I can't remember where exactly Icaught it- yeah we're exactly. I got this, but this kind of goes on thatcourt of Markes realise and but I remember I sartit for a bit. I did thisexercise of every morning a wake not every morning. It's probably like youknow every two days or something like that. I'll break up a flip o coin right.The idea is, if you get heads you leave tales, you diet right, 'cause, that'swhat it is like you know, and most of us have been lucky enough and we'vebeen just getting heads for such a long time and would iner and- and that'sthat's a fact like so you know- and you know we talk about. You know people saywell. I've got no much to be grateful for Wel. You know you wake up everymorning. You can see you know so this, like it's incredible and Konathere was I had. I had a friend named Nicol Um such a beautiful person right and shewas in l A. I think she was Um, Rese Stralian girl and I think she wasdoing her something for a acting career. The might have been a job such a beautiful person inside out, andyou know, and just suffer from sad. I think it's called sudden l that tespentto sleep didn't wake up, and men like and she was same age as me. Maybe likea few days from my Birtsday or something like that and that like- andI can't get that on of my head because I realized it was like, like you know, you don't have to be ina car accident, you don't have to be. You know you don't have to Goo, be atthe gym and have a fool or like get ou struck in ahead. You have to be in aplane. You could be going to sleep and die, so I otize him with the wholefeeings of like lay really doesn' t that you know someone who lives so manylater in ninety years, and somebody who lives twenty one years, no matter whether that person hasachieved some of the greatest things known to Mantine or achieveing oftand,we all kint of end up in the in the...

...same way. So what is the point of filling you? Po,your life with Inxaty and woing up a thing? That's Ane, Hundrede Rigt, and what weoften do is we um? We need to all do a better job of filtering. Theconversations we have with ourselves like we're so used to. You know mybranch is constantly going and you kindo don't take an order tof, whatyou're saying to yourself, but as much as you could be negative about asituation and your regret doing this to this person x amount of time like thatsame principal works if you're speaking positively, an the funny thing younotice, stright away is like this is like kitty stuff like this is not goingto work, but slowly but surely the more you do it like you're doing your best.Today you try you best today, you may not have got all you work done, but youyou set your ass down and you tried your best, that's better than what youdo before, keep going like that little bit of self talk man. That goes a longway and that's one thing: that's one thing a was taught and that's one thing:Atoum implementing now jeese that makes a difference, an even t, hat you're,recognizing that you're making changes you're going Athis. This thing I didwas was good or this thing I did really wasn't the way you want to live andyou'r sort of a Gaptin 'cause makingme were talking the other day about I cim Ferret, I think and Ho he has Iideas now he talkd with things a competely disagree with things he saidyears ago, and the first thing you think, is all high hypocritical, butyou don't think the learning care that you know thatperson's gone through to change through opinion and as long R, always avalue itand what you're doing and thinking Oh, I could do thit's better it. You know you can keep Bein a goodbirton hundred percent am Odeson A and that'sit I mean you. I mean it's funny to talk about temperace Cowell, that'swhat you said yesterday, but it's also true, though, because if your opinionis no changing, that's what the pro if your topros is no changing, I thinkthat's what tha problem is and it's interesting because Um just aquickly touch on that. Just so quickly touch on that I mean recism is a bigone. You know I like. Well, maybe I'm no racist 'cause, you know how can I beRasis, I'm Brown right and then you quickly do like a quick, Celfon Ele. Soyou'e like O, hold tha fock up, I'm like races, a shit. You know thosthings I say, and you know and it's funny because I I use so many jokes andyou know that I a ever so cansual to me andthose jokes are bad as it is. I mean there's one joke that I can't like seemto Leo is the one about you know. I went once went to Bondy beach andforgot to put sanescreen O and then I turned brown and lost all myprivilegesiand. I wanisright Thatsrih. It's a good laugh right, but but I Itor Apari was like Wa bod on when I say that in front of let's, if I say thisto a person who's, you know of white skin color, that's almost kind of racesto them and like being mean to them so or you know, but most people who saywell, that's you know, white crissm doesn't exist. I as like. Well, I meaneither way you B, I'm being Addick, so th there's a lot of that, like TheiSelf analysis that has to happen. You know just on that Colt there's anothercourt that Um what's his name, a Graldan Se job said, which was you knowif if you liv live as you leve every day, as you last one day, you'll bemoone day, you will more certainly be right, N, which is, which is you knowit's it's true and when he talks about living your day every single day as? ULike you last Te, you don't have to go. Sell your car, like you know, do allthat stuff I mean you can. Actually you know a wht. What would you like to doon your last day on earth? I would like to shallow my cop crisk, O Sixes, O myca, but what you could do like if today wasthe last day, but I don't know if today is the last tabut couldnt could haveaother day. Like would I be satisfied with the things I've done, you know,but they could be othe day. So I think it's a interesting way to look at itfor sure what do y? U You would implement. You know if you're able tosort of think uh. You know this is my last. What sort of things would youwant to en into your day to make it awhile andlike that's, I think if they're thinking you know underspand all mymoney on, you know poker and do all that sort of stuff. I wonder,realistically, what sort of things would you do? That would would justifya good laugh tay for me, I I'd want to communicate withthe people closest to me in my life about how much I love them and how muchI appreciate them, something that we can always do. Did you think you know, I wonder how you can implement thateveryd'cause it it's kind of it's a novel thought thinking. This could bemy last day but SOMMIN. It is Kindo hard to you SA. That's something you could do,but quite often something we don't dot. Yep Yeah! That's right! That's right DI T! Today! If today was my last day,I tried to live it as how, as how I always think my perfect day has I beentrying to aim for that perfect day,...

...yeah ats, how I would like, like you,know, I', actually wake up early for fucking, once Ou knowwake up early on'tget up iy an as pretty good. I almost like up early like nine o'clock, I think ther Soli,like you know, I would try to leave that perfect day that I you know sodesire, which is like I would wake up early. I would go maritat. I would goto the gym. I would you know, call my mom. I would call my friend and I woulddo some work that I been procrestinate or I would try to live the day if I'dbe satisfied by the end of the day, they're going, you know what today wasa good day and then say you K, ow. I think that's what I would do Butii Tat.There are quite awesome things that you do make the affort to do. You know seeit's Kindof like you are living your your days in a way that sort of lines up with with how you'd want tolive yeah, but I want to keep pushing thatto like you know. Obviously, it's noone never going to be o perfect 'cause.Nothing is therver perfect, so maybe the the next thiy would be better thanthe day previous. It's like what you said, its L, I think. Previously wetalked about this being one percent better than yesterday. I work onepercent hunter yeah yeah totally. It was reading a a thing yesterday andit was. It was talking about the difference between being nice, ND andbeing kind, and it was hard if you, if you're, going to be n, that tituationBekind tof someone is supposed to be nice, because when you're Beig Nice,you just paand Lok service to someone and saying things probably to to makeit seem that you're, a nice person where Wuld Bein kind doing things thatactually benefit someone and that sort of I'm trying to keep in my head withRelae to toother people. I you know: Don't Ha that superficial niceness tobe a kind person, do what you can to t to be to be to be a good person. Eally hundred percent hundred percent boys,it's Um, it's small little incremental changesright and they often seem like the biggest things, but those are the onesthat we need to do again. What was the first quite thatyou smoke about it's the patience. The bitterness of patienes makes the resultso much sweeter, like you needit, you need to get through those little thingsto and there's not you're, never going to have that perfect day or we're nevergoing to have that great day. By doing one thing right, it's like a small youknow making sure I get up on time may in try ate well doing a little bit ofexercise. Speaking to a few people, get my work done like it's, these littlethings that we can all do n and that's a bidof thing about mental health andthese sort of things being at the forefront of our mind, is by constantlythinking of ways to improve and what we always speak about is being a better,the best all a better version of ourself. So I love that that's kind of WeySociety. You know there's plenty of negatives that we can speak about insociety. I think that's one positive. I think we've come through so hey, it iswhat it is w I getlet's. Let's go to, let's go tothat little the kind of a monologue. That's from the movie trainsporting lockan to Yooto!Read that out. Since you got, you know little bit, O deeper voice and you knowpeet it out with much emotions as you can and then conner. I would like yourfirst thought on it, because you knew about this. You had the longest toponder upon that monlogue. Okay, yeah they choose a la Sor d e miht, morightchoose a life, choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family choose afucking big television choose washing machines, cars, compactis players andelectrical teen, openers didt know there was a thing choosing sy andwondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning, choos sitting on thatcouch watching my numbing spirit, crossing game shows stucking junk foodsticking junk food into your mouth, choose rodding away in the end of itall pishing, your last H in a miserable home, nothing more than anembarrassment too. The selfish fucked up brets you spawn to replace yourself,choose your future choose life, but why would I want to do a thing like that? That'll take you bag waters Mi! That's like a bit a background for forpeople to listen and aren't rery familiar with that that' Affrom, amovie called tree, an spotn and the movie bigacle Irvan Wels iscript anyway,and hes real real Scottish athe. Just depicts his real, like brutal Adan,realize m these guys emovr all addicted to heroin- and this quote, I think, is just it's just so vivid and andwhenever I heard it I was thinking you know these. These are the kind of theMond Ind wers you spend most of your days and I think a lot of US sortof mtowards geting a career and you go ill. Work at this career do ma nine to five Il work toward getting the big TV onceyou geot the big T v a year later, even bigger T V, and it really made me think you know wellwha. What's the point of just just working and doing these thingsumtninete nine, for whenever Lik that...

...quote came out of, and there was anewer one came I what three years ago, some part of it hes like choose es inelaundry and the ve in hope of kicking some life back into a dead relationship.He said I'd Choos an ice on me in China by a woman who jumped out of a windowand stick it in the pocket of your jacket, trash from a size, eason firetrap, truspace book twitter, Snapchat, inste ground a SA an other way justfiel your Bil across athe people, you've never met Thos, looking up old,clams, desperate to believe you don't look as bat as Thay do choose livelogging for your first wank to your last breath. You know, reeally, really H, Ringod I'll, tell you thet! That's really it', like I mean pretty prettycrude, pretty pretty H, rash, but itpot on. I think it's pretty dgonest yeah, it's TEFEC, a whope, isbo,twitter, Snapo, drogram and tars and Wer O fear. Your Bil across people,you've never met, and even people you haven't. You haven't, talked to peoplefrom school and Te Yeas and you're still caught up in what they've adterbreakfast or whatever it's the first time. I heard this.Actually, you know gave me goose bumps and I was just thinking about itbecause my biggest fear in life and some Ithink someone asked me about a says. What's what's your biggest fare, Ithink- and I think I break my biggest parinto two pieces. My biggest pear inlife is to live a Mendane life that I'm not happy with, and the second one isto die insignificant right, which is the kind of BOT gointo twine. Is it's so scary, because that's what wedo daily like that's what that's what everyone is ecause we live in so injunction with this whole, like you, K, ow, exactly th the way that the new oneis like. You know, you know you go on Pasebook, you GOINTO. He ride you, wakeup and use school and you're watching Video Pedo, and I chatted t jattedabout this in the previous po previous episode. I was waking up and this allit takes likeust slipp into it, and I was baking up and just opening vidiewsand just scrawling on videos. The good thing is: facecoop, never stops withthe videos they just let you go on n ever forever forever. You know my phone,every soften will tell me be like hey. You've been on your phone for fourhours and I hat shop an B oin that right, yeah and a- and you know I amlucky enough, like I said before- is to catch myself on those things, becausenormally I'm not that much on my pone compared to other people, and Ishouldn't compare with myself to other people, but you know to myself. U KnowI thougl, I was a lot in fact. I told Cornou Connor about it and I said heylike I'm on my phone and he was the one he goes: Hey stop being on Basebo an Ideluted, the fastbook oon, my phone and, like you know it took a few days toactually be like hoking. Well, I kept on reaching for the APP it wasn't there.I was like Ohwa Ayes, so really makes you realize how you knowand then goes into like the solt crashing. You know sow crushing mine,numbing game shows you look at ow talking about the bachelor or the youknow, the bachelor or the what's, the other one that everyone keeps onwatching. Is Lo Islan an all these. Those really like why no figt, like the cardetions, likeI mean who the Fucki watching the shit like you know. Why are you doing this tdoing that? To Yourself, like I mean, there's no intelligence in it likethere's? No Ri y? U Now there's no real um! There's no purpose in it. Are youjust watching it because everyone's watching it and like you know- and somuch- and this is interesting- is wel like choose a career to the job rightlike the biggest thing is so many people therese two ways people go well,they go hey like this is what I have to do like I got to get a job. I E anpeople get a job and they work nine to five and that's it. They Co home. Youknow M, it's it it it's easy to do so because you wake up at Teve en o'clokat six o'clock right. You get to work by at nine o'clock. You've finishedYourbet, you get home at seven o'clock. What else are you going to do? That'syour day Gong and then that's and you wait for the week and what to get tothe weekend. You know you can't wait to go out or a bees and and pass. If notyou know, most of the time you'l be like well, I'm I just Goin to sit hereand watch T v because you know I don't have any friends because t's not likeyou've called anyone, because you were too busy just being in that work. Soneand that's your life and that's why, on the weekend, you just watch those ninemiumbing shows and go hey this weekend, I'm going to go to Costgo and pick upane woising machine, that's life like that's what people are still livinglike and you know like. I don't want to be that person.Never! Because Y, U K! I would rather like you know I would rather live alife where you know well, even if suffering becomes a little bit higherlike Mo things are, like you know, not as easy, but at least I'm doingsomething new, I'm living like trying to live them, trying to make sense oflike trying to have ind meaning, but that that's just Arat, like I mean therack race is that's the best way to put it like it's sot and then just have kids onlyto have them do the same thing. You know go through school, not payingattention to your kids and that's what I mean for what seems what it seems like Imean our parents and, like we all seem we all come from a houseol. Were ourpants give us sufficient attention, but...

...at the same time, like you know, howlong did our parents do this of like jobs and whatnot an? How long is hiscycle going to continue is tat life? You know the arsomman described that those type of T v shows is McDonaldsfor your for your breain or fo your eyes. You know I thought that was perfect because sometimes fuse fast food and in the wayyou can't get a good meal and goting the t v. sometimes you just Wanta o people just want to watch trash tofill a a void or ESPEC of time. You know an you kill an hour. You stick on.One of those T v shows a D. I guess that's how the Cadatians and those sortof people get get forhim yeah. We all know how the origin story,the Great Gimbok an Ash, but we don't have to tread those waters to today, and I completely gr agree with thatpoint, and I guess I was only you know informed of a new way. It's actuallyreally interesting. Like I see my partner Charlotte and H, her mom carrythey. They watch all the shows they love it. They had the times and allthat sort of thing and they're really smart people. So you know I ca. I can'tsit through it for thirty seconds, because I just pull my hair and g. ACAU people watch this, but theyre sitting up there laugh and at I gonthis is so fake. This is not there's no reality to this. This is old nonsense.So they've got a really good attitude about it and you know: There's peoplethat work really high stress jobs, and sometimes they just need a little bitof brain sugar, just O kindo on wine. So there's certainly plenty of peoplelike that, but you know th they you know, I'm sure I can almost guarantee alarge percentage of the people that not just watch to show but follow them onsocial media like that they're just trying to yeah they're just trying tofel avoid f of some sort, and it's like the kind of the ideal, the ideal person,and if you really listen to an inerview from any of those people like theirpaper, thin on most things except make up or I'm sterotypingexcept one or twolittle things they're just like us, except they have this platformand. Theyreally don't have anything better to affor. But you know we just live inociety. Now that Um, you 're able to make business and moneyoff that so likeitit's very strange. Isn't it one of the I don't know which theyoungest one of those cardacians, I think with the Young Guy Wa Shou, heyoungest millionaire, the youngest t or something youngeran. She I think shemade like off her makeup or something like that right, Kendl Oll call you oneof those yeah Calys, the Youngestiinsin Er. I mean, I guess, there's some credit tobe given for that. regardess o. What like at ther the M, the mum there she'sshe's a savage like the way she built their careers up like for the first tenyears of there. I guess and I to be honest, like you know, I kinda I wasparticularly in isolation. My missers went back from the Starle condationsand I saw the east drop on a few episodes had a bit of a laugh and thatsort of thing, and for the first ten years of their business, it was justabout appearances, so ther mum would set them up at night clubs they'd go toShopping Sen as they do all that, and then that was their business kind ofoff. That is just being a celebrity on then now they've Ganin, the actual T vshow, is their biggest business. So you can see the production of the T. V showget a lot higher and I went from being a little bit of a kind of a mediumbudget show to a massive budget show so to her credit, she has undoubtedly donlike turn something into something incredible just for me, obviously notjust the way it started, but the continuous theme of oversexualization,of of her daughters in n kind of the generation that follow from there. Nowthat I have a daughter kind of concerns me in the fact that that has in society.That's something I'mstarting to worry about so overalllike. I don't likewhat's happened, but you know to her credit she's an entrepreneit te end ofthe day. She just figured out a way to make her money and V that Hel you wantto leave your life all better. Better! Luck to you a I mean, look yeah! It'smost of the society that that's whatthe Romantisize is is. Is the way to lookat it like you, knowthatit's, not if if they just saw an opportunity,they're like well, we gon to do that. Exactl, that's exct, an that's exactlyright, like her mum set her up like massivey he's like nothe Gaoety andthen on Topo, that less like. Let's not forget, like you, n o the t vs onlythey like for people to watch what their real businesses are like sellingmakeup and all that kind of stuff. So you know I mean they're, not in thegame too. Only just entertain people they're there for money, so that's important room obvously. Wehad Katland Genamin for twelve months. That was the biggest new story in theworld th that came out of that show like that that that kind of evolved inthat show in going back and seeing her developing as a person like this is alittle bit of a different topic. But you could see her of all from this. Youknow Olympic athlete too a woman like you saw it happened, and it's just likeyou know she I mean that was a big for twelve months.When was that, I don't know it was a few years ago, but that was everywherelike that. was she won woman of e year like we're just going doaziness now,but yeah that that's significant so to their creditive? You know t they arewhere they are because they've put themselves in that situation. So heybaby. It is what it is. It's twenty...

...just you guys talking about that fromthe point I'v I've started at thinking. The cardashian ther are just like very um beotic people fromwhat you just a'm sort of thinking, maybe maybe a methoi o a lot of noly.Not I I dot yet there's no intelligent, extremely superficial. There's you knowthere's little parts, it's not on accident, like that's what I'll givehim credit for it wasn't an accident how it initially started. That's youknow kind of the worst way to go about things, but it was a very deliberate anit's, not just a mum like it. You know there at the end of the day theythey're making so much money for so many different organlizations Tho. Theyhave some of the best business people. The best market is in the world behindthem. So it's not just the mums O briant like that tere machine now soyeah, but it's also interesting because it's a part of society that you knowexists an it's kind of interesting to get that perspective a little bit abouta society that we're no proud of and armost eally wit, really enough peoplein the world that there's a market. For that! It's it's! Scary, Y! U, you think a certain way and you think,oh there can't be. You know many people that would would watch this and yourealize t possably, a huge proportion of the world really actually find atinterestinta million. I actually earlier this year earlierthis year when the whole cobe nineteen things started and like for the firsttime, 'cause I've been running around and saying hey. I want to change theword because I care about people and earlier this year I learnt somethingthat actually hit me so heavy. I was really sad about this and what Irealized I was like how stupid people are and when the whole thing happenedwith the people buying tollerpaper right and I was like man that could be.That could be my neighbor. That could be one of my friends like I don't knowlike some PP. They, like Iwas, like Holy Shits, Woiar, so stupid, you'veseen men on Social Medoo, Sorr to cut yo off you've seein the way that peoplethat you knew knew closely the way that they've reacted makes you like if shehit the FN like some of those you're questioning now like the yeah. I've hadto do that too s, some people that I know very well. It's like right, what'sgoing on t that made me think a was tlit manwholly show was wrong about people. People are in in Um, people are goingthrough these, no because sometimes they're, just like that's what they wanto do, because theyare fugging stupid like why would you need, like the wholetoerpaper thing was huge because I was like quit: hold a minute hold on aminute that could be my codhing. That could be the person. I know that wouldbe that person. You know s. That was reall scared. For me. I, as Li CallSita so stupid when you think you know initially, you think all thatsstupidity and then the more you think about it. It it comes tro a placeforyear like a lot of those people, were buying taight up aper because ere theyso everyone else was, did it and then they were thinking well, I someone elsebuys all the tin of Piper in. I won't get any ER. Yet you've got like freerand greed playing off against each other, that's t and then I'm sure, I'msure the come o over in the media. Patran on the media, then you've gotthat real aspect where the same way as there was with the beauty formulia inAustralia that theyre persn IAJANDA, that people are send it back to China,and I guess, there's a whole lot of things that are pland Mik people actingways when they seem scuper than possibly their heart. Yeah now at', like, I think, a little bit ofunderstanding of how it works and knowing that hey, if I give it sometime like Um, I if I give hi some time the suff a Goin to me, shocked I'mgoing to be able to have the option to buy it again. But you know if everyonejust bought what they needed. It wouldn't have gone out of stop becauseyou see what's happening now, everyone's buying, what they need andthey're fine. It's the ten percent of people that just hoaded like modifyersthat ruined it for everyone else, and it seems Hofgh that ten percent that wespeak about in social mediar in society. That seems to be growing a little bitmore iis more than to maybe yeah yeah. I I think it's more so around that,like you know forty percent and then you got, then you got the people wholike sick between the two as wells yeah. Ah I alay go the show if, if somethinghappened, that we were in like a end of the world type scenario, how manypeople would be looking out for each other and how many people would just belooking after themselves? It it', Very Mall, Skale experiment at Kindof showsyou that a lot of people um they're, just thinking about one Parton,Yep Yep. It was it's like a the P yeah, it's the perfect social experimentbecause it happened. You know everyone's everyone's affected by it insome way and Um, yeah y Ou know yeah, that's exactly whow. We can go deepdown that rabbit hall for Shore Winter, a D, and I, I honestly do think it's in it'slike the level of intelligence, which actually kind of brings me nicely tothe next court, which is by actually Steven hookings right. Intelligence isability to adapt to change right, Um, which is which is brilliant, becauseright days touches on that as well, because you're talking about you'rtalking about o r whole society that...

...just took things at Fasebell, whetherit was fer but well I mean like how often like Letssa is its toilet people.Nothing is not related to life right. You know tol peoples just like bywiping your ass. Like I mean you could fucking jump in the shower like Oh, youcan not wipe your eyes Yo wife, the way e way of the future. I think what is is baby, wipe to the way of thefuture migt an use, a blanket O, no like or Olpower right, NSR, unerms underestimated good. The Days Wel. I tell you thatmuchriht I mean, obviously that that was a ch like youcould be like hey. Well, you know I could just start jumping in the shower,but yet it's insane that people poured onto that. It's nuts, one of the one sthings I was thinking when that was happening. I was thinking O. Should I be trying toget some parto TI Roland, then I was thinking al. I could wish hi scenarioyou're a shower. You go you've ever been traveling to your Tiand or orViananao counry, quite common to pig of a hose or something you can't push tilepeaper. We just have become so used to doing things. The one way we did. Wequite often don't realize, there's a hundred ways. You can git a cat, Yepyeah, there's Um, there's a famous m TI fighter he's in a trantiphit, hisname's John Wenpa, and he spent the younger years of his life in Moid Art.Sorry, training in Moiti in Thailand. Obviously- and he said, like you know,we were living on scraps over there like Ow, you know to wash yourself youhad to he. He said he came up with a trick where he used to roll the youknow, you'd be washing the hair and you roll the you roll the water down theback of your back. It slices on your back and it goes down to crack therebecause that's what you had to do. We only had like a bucket to share betweenus or you figure, these things out and that's a very know extreme example, butpeople just weren't able to realize like at the end of the day like if werun out of toilet paper, then you know I there's a free market out there.Things are going to get figured out but um like that's, not the worst thingever and then so many people to turn it around. So many people were like Oh,what's happening, O toll e papers, Goan its like the Old Garden Hose just whipit through the back fence Rolin in the row in the Dlik weve figure it outmanlike it's, not the end of the world, but h you think iong Ta. If you apositive, you know positive off. That is that you start to maybe ration howmuch tiefor use, for example, 'cause you're thinking, middlthis role couldhave to last fo two weeks or maybe ctcut down on how many you know shepreet wit, you spaat Yep, O Posiv Nogt of it. What brings it outyeah? That's right as they say might shit happen. So it is one of theset Otheext PT. Did you boys have anything more that you wanted to add off wh thedocument there Um 'cause, I I' be happy to go into the twenty one rols of oflife. If Yo wanted to do that, or did you guys want want a Grag ything? TheyO er Eo, the D Onle I'll, give I'll give thegus a little bit of an introduction in the people listening Um, so the twentyone rols of life was a book written by Miamoto Musashi me and Mato Massailived from fifteen and eighty four to sixthen forty five. So it's obviouslywisdom from a long time ago he was a Japanese sord master during the SumaraiAge. He won over more than sixty Jews and sort of the first well worldrenowned, Um Samurai warriors who the their lifesuperseded. The Japanese culture and you know far extended that and he wrotea book called the five rings, one of the high seing books of all time.Plenty of people have heard about it and superfamous in Japanese culture, ofcourse, and in that book he talks about the twenty one rules of life. I waslistening to a bodcast today and most they're all really good rules.Some I agreed with some I disagreed with, and so my foult were really good,but not all of them. I kind of had an opinion on a lot of these are kind ofjust they are. What they are like, I kind of just is what it is, but if youboys, sort o hear one of the rules and it resonates and some clickstraightaway and let me know- but I think if we try to break down everysingle one, itill just take too long, and a lot of them are kind of selfexplanatory anyway. So just give me a thumbs up or someere like that, and ifsomething POPs up there are a few really good ones. So we start with thefirst one here except everything just the way it is. That sounds like it iswhat it is. That's WHA I sat out saying: AEMBROW,yeah, Callin life. Don't make that good go ye, so that's the first one they'renumber two do not see pleasure for its own sake. I thought that was a reallygood one. Just just quickly on that Um Co. I know you've been reading a lot ofGreek philosophy. Do you have anything to add to accept everything just theway it is yeah? That' kind of I thought that thatcame out of Um ye ot of the Greek and Roman PhilosophyN. I suppose this is eastern philosophy.

I like Um, it happens by TAT. Happens. Trust meSan an hour. Nd Ot, any brains, guld, so much going on iswhat it Istait is. What it is Ye H. I think definitely, except that things happenand you can make choices and you may have good or bad oucome,but you do have to accept things as they are. You may something real. You know youmight break up with your partner. They might you know they might cheat on Yo.Maybe your house will go on fire and you do have to just accapt ut, reallythat's what it is, and you can either make a decision to deal with that oryou can. You can be miserable, but yeah that that's perfect. I think thatthat's probably pretty rich in a lot of philosophy is that whole concept of youknow can think that they are particularly things that areof ourcontrol. You know it's as the old Adigis like if you, if you have thebilliy to change it, do so. If not let it go Butcan't do nothing. So I thinktha, yeah and- and I think some people would hear that and go oh well, excepteverything I the way it as means that you don't try hard or that you don'tyou don't try and control Anilton instead of Interrprtet it as there aresome things ha just you can't control and you do it Ti exxet ye yeah, that'sright! Yea Eve! Even t the Bible is you K, W T, one of the oldest books everwritten and there's so much in there that people try to just take full facevalue and some of the best books in the best literature ever written like it'sforcing you to deal Debran to actually take your oper, your perception of alittle bit. THAT'S ACTUALLY ECAUSE! That's actually going to relate to yourown life and all these statements. All these rules aren't just a matter offact like you can interpret like some of them are like thou shall not killlike I there's no dicking around there, but for the most partlike it's like.How can I apply this? You Know How could apply this to my life, that sortof thing si now. That's that's briant Youre, on o ne at her Megon you do haveto make I ralevant to to your own, can like what this was like two thousandyears ago, you're going to have to take a bit of pinch, a tout with some ofthese things and a really thandwhat. What you doin night! That's right!That's right! We do have the Internet now adays late, it s injust in case wedidn't know n. So the second one- and I really likethis- One II' maybe touched on at first and do not seek pleasure for its ownsake and what t e, what I thought of immediately once I heard that do notsee pleasure for its own sake is particularly as you're young and you'reexperiencing new things for the first time legal drinking age. That sort ofthing like you've learned to just all these new things come at once and youactually don't think of what the consequences are of just being openlylike concently looking for pleasure and looking for these sort of things andthat's something I've had to do with my own life and realize that this thingmay make me feel good right now. But you know what is the actual? What's theactual meaning to it, and is this kind of? Is this going to have an effect onthe way? I see myself for anything else, so I think I think it's in the society.We live it now. It's so easy to just pleasplase like what do we want? Whatdo we want now? So yeah, that's a really good one n! No more than ever, plasure is likejust that thing. Thatill dopeming fix people have acces to it. Probably a pretty good disposableincome. Most people you can afford to go and drink, or you know things like online porn is amassive thing as well in terms of masse. Prolems a generations beforeushave never seen you really Y. I think people now have to exercise a lot moreself control than th previously, because it's much easierto get this this pleasure than than before, yeah t'rig, Yeah H, Hadthe deThev, were you around for the vhs days. Madel was that pretating all of us h?No, I would definitely BA JEF man. I remember the first time I gotcaught with a magazine when I was living good times. I uld be a story foranother day hold my mate. My dubask made the was wegot caught, I'm going to go into it. We got caught because he was reading it inhis bed in his room at his house. He fell asleep with it on his lap. His Dadwalked into his room to wish him good night and seized the magazine Wone, anabsolute chidni still haven' have to ge any pur that one rg, so El Yeah as I'll say abb like t do what I saynot what I do all right so number three. I really like this one too. I might letyou touch on this one first and EEK, but I this one I really liked to was donot under any circumstances depend on a partial feeling. Does that does thatresonate at all yeah I mean th. There's a huge aspect of the that. Often I likethe idea of got feelings like the Jo, if you feel something, but if youactually never sure about something. That's when you shouldn't probably acton that got feeling. I think, because...

...omrtimes you like, I sort of feel likethat's something hat. I should do or something ex you know. So I think thatand a feeling never like, unless, if you got, is really telling you 'causeyou'd know 'cause you'd be Driin to do it. I don't think you should go against youGud, but sometimes E v. The feeling is like, Oh, maybe the chesses are that so most of a timeyou know was the right thing to do, but you might actually go hey like me, butI feel like this could be you knowyou know you always know a anyou known,often disgoes with people as well. These people that we've had in ourlives we go hey. We've always know that person I's, probably not a Ri like aright person for us, but wee like Oh, I like as kind of like that person, so Ikind of like having them around kind of situation, so yea hundred percent, I think the k part ofthat is the partial feeling, like you know, we could be stretcsed out, couldbe driving in a car, so an cuts us off we go. I wish I could kick that Guyas,you know and if we anon those sort of things, those sort of emotions like apassing thought or we see you know, we see an attractive person or you you'reyou're at a party and someone's you know someone's doing some extracrikulactivities and you go. Should I rether should now not the partial feeling ofthat is is so important because we we often get times. You know our thoughts,Becomin, our our actions and our motions we get so caught up, sometimesin what we're thinking, instead of just letting it go o what we're feeling- andI think that's such a good way to really anbalyze these thoughts and e'sat a goot feeling, if it's a got feeling that it's not going to bepartial, because it's going to be whole, it's going to be in yew. If it'spartial, then it's probably just it's going to pass in the wind. Just likeyou know, just like anything lover, number, four think lightly ofyourself and deeply of the world. That's a good one, one on percent onehundred percent agree, that's so brilliant y. I think so many people take themselvesso serious yea, like you, know, EU what I was Goingto Sag Tae Youselseriously, people get so boldhered by things and like so annoyed and so hurtby Thoe thingss like who gives the fuck. You know, you'ren, like your Myoumarely, are merely avween inuslike, a dot in dis, infinite size of thegallaxs of the word or the galaxis. Nor, like you, know the universe, I seeYouare like such a small part, so ba Sir don't take yousel serious Ho'weverthink you know tick. Hat' Bout Allan Watch is a great quot where he SAS. ManSuffers only because he takes seriously what the gods bid for fun, which uh Tithat quite a lot. You know yeah, that's it hundred percent hundred percent. It's so easy to getcaught up in your your daily existence that you yeah. You can't see past yournext door. Neighbors House ill pass the fence and I think hopefully that's onething: WE'VE ATAWHY! Why waste your time getting angry because yourneighbors dog Shi you know s Churka shape in your front yard, a Liko I eship. Like I mean Shit happens, Lok Thats, righ, neverexcept, everything to e it is yeah,tends to get to this part of the podcast whether we will starti to falloff. So you know we say just that. Takei too close to the H. now, that's pre, that's ait! Yet numberfive be detached from desire. Your whole life long, obviously a pract, notpractically you know applicable, because desire is always going to comein, but make I guess what that's trying to say is make your desire. Not yourhave go deeper than what your desiring actually analyze the situation. Alittle bit more be detached from desire. Your whole life long yeah. I think thatone, I sort of like tr to get my head round for Shal litte little bit touchand go it's very much situational as well. Obviously, as well e like that,quite you know, instead of appreciateind what you have it's kindof desir to have mor as what creat ot oour problems- and you know quite often you you want more money oryou want a bigger hearst or you want moreprocude in your career and that's where I feel a old O, contept tof desireis. I that youknow you don't spend your whole life. You get more appreciate what you haveand that's what I sa that old attachment from this Arabean yeah, a hundred percent that was reallywell done. I couldn't couldn't quite latch onto that one, and I think youbrarely oresonry really well number. Six do not regret what you have done. Ithink we were speaking about that before do not regret what you've done,how how long do we hold onto resentment for before we let it go? How long do wehold on to our mistakes before we? Let it go, do not regret what you have done.Obviously you know where humans are we going to and if you didn't regret,you'd probably be a Socia path, but don't let that regret, consume yourlife and not let you forgive yourself or learn from the lession or move on. Ithink that one was really good. Yeah number seven never be jealous. That'sjealousy is spoken about in pretty much...

...any belief system in the world becauset's such has such an impact on the human psyche. Jealousy of situations ofthings never be jealous. I think that's onething we can all get better at just just in human nature in general yeah Ithink o know, but you guys be an Australians but jealousy he was hes yeahyherane thingin upene and definitely island is when someone someone you know: Soagan conterticcess from Joun Pinye.There's this real attitude of people putting them down as if did they're doing something wrong andand acts like a real jealo sort of gentle thing and T it's horrandous, butyou just. You grew up with that with that way of thinking that it taks a lotto to go op. You know well done you're starting a business, your luck with its ipportant people. That's so true. It's m. We have a aphrase over here called Tall Poppy Syndrome and it's essentially the samething. It's where you look at someone else in a better situation or somethingelse and you for whatever reason you bring it down and particularly if men,I see that in so many social settings- and it goes it's always hidden behindhumor, like many things are but t it actually goes deeper it S. it's. Itreally comes from a place of jealousy. It comes from a place of lust becauseyour your your initial reaction to someone telling you good news is tobring him down a peg and obviously everyone needs to be humbled at certainperiods, but I think I've seen plenty of that happen too. So I'm sure that'syeah, obviously over there, but that's certainly I've seen haps of that too.So that's a really good point. It's it's also huge in eastern culture aswell like Becksunni, Indian conces, huge people, yeah people woulddoanything. Peop I mean: What's popular in th in Thesotris, is the is the backhander complimentthe yeah, you know t that's Athat's, a nice car. You knowwhat you know. What did did you sell your soul to get this or Somwheris teback, YEP, they're ALD, so in the so way, that's daywaters the oum number,eight. Never let yourself be sadened by a separation again. I think this one isvery um has to be funtamentally applied in various aspects of your life, but Iguess how many people do you know that have gone through a breakup or of goingfor a loss or a separation and they're not able to let that go. Never letyourself be Sadend by separatation N. I think that's what that's what that'strying to say for sure, and I think I gone conner no GE EU power. I was just going to say: that's that'Super Trute, because I always thought about this and, as like, be happy thatsomething like that happened in your life. You know you met someonebeautiful and then you spend time with them and whether the fact that it'sended, you know, I think so many relationships and in bad notes isbecause people often try to you know one of the one most of the time eitherone person is still in love that other person is just over them. That's whathappens. I think, just if you'R collectibly go Hai beautiful thing thishappened, but you know guess time to move on. I think that'simportant to people like if you love yourself Inou. You won't be sidened bythe separation that I think thitis a really difficult one to to reallytoreally work with, like Il just come out of a relationship reay recently-and this is where I thought I've been sort of stewing on it's. It I's so like like quite often like alot of these things, they're very easy to to think about unless you're in thesituation- and you know derkentimes wil, depen dependon- on what to have example,Youre Tal y relationship depend on how that relationship has has ended. It canbe very, very difficult to you that, as just you appear in your life and look atwhat you've learned from him h yeah, I think I have to gree o one butga one tat's rave a particular and very in some ciss very difficult, especiallyyou know you tell the death of people- God forbid, like when you're closefamily parents Du that that's something you'll only experience once or twice inyour in your life, and how can you? How can you prepare yourself or somethingof that magnitude? Yep, that's right and you need toexperience the pain in order to move on from it least when people push it awayand pretend you know trying to push it back. That's when it gets worse. Sothat's so truns obviously important to remember that this came from you knowthe sixteen hundred in Japan and it was used to teach Samuraied to be the bestwarries. They were possible. So if you know in that setting, if your matewho's standing next to you gets killed, that's obviously very sad, but do notbe sand by, because we'e still got a mission to do we're still going to moveon here. So that's obviously could to understand what that saying there too,but Um. One thing that I always heardparticularly growing up is like I'm so good, a giving relationship advice, butI I'm not in a relations wor. That sort of thing is because advice withoutemotion is one thing: advice that stands: withstands te test of emotionsand feelings and how you know how...

...you're experiencing this totallydifferent right like it's it ist is the dife of Aish. Mi can number nine Asrber Ogod. No, Iwas I was just going to say I I I actually I mean on second thought I doagree with L um to agree with Connor, because you know on my. I just thoughtabout that as well. For a second, I was like it's a little easier than saideasie set than done for sure. I get et tere like a lot of te thingsthey're allUm imusing things to like your life by on some, but sometimes t the practiceof some of them is a lot more difficult, but I guess that's the point of it.Isthat that you know you you're, not you don't meant to be e, otherwiseeverone would be Einyeahthat'sthat's. What that's? What Y old boy used to say if this shoit was easy, everybody wouldbe doing who was at runny cal was that Soertin Yeah? I was Theroni on Resi yeah money wantto be apotacin and nobody would a lift those heavyears wits. That was H. I hadto I e voice, my Porson robint running comb and had the same voicecoat. Ithink so. Yo CT, number nine BIS. Resentment incomplaint are appropriate, Neva for oneself or others, and I heard that atfirst I'm thinking w. What are they trying to say? But if you really lookat it, resentment and complaint are appropriate, neither so neither foroneself or others resentment and complaint that nothing positive comesfrom those two things like: They only lead to negative outcomes. Yeah kind ofDuches on the number four as well, I think lightly of the world lie. I meanyeah, so no co stop complaining. I guess like that kind of makes sense,it's sort of explains itself or really m an yep yeah. That's right, O o showthat I'm sure both of you can think of someone in in your head thatyou know that it its always complain an. I think any walk of life have been in.There's always been someone that all they do is canplay in, and you thinkyou know I ever shut up like this is not doing anyone anyto so difficult to brose that subject withsomeode who's in that in O, headof yea, yeah Soan it becomes er becomes awayyou're thinking like they won't even do it without realizing the first thing.Have you gone tonim Aal this this and that happened, and it's like o YeahYeah totme number ten, do not let yourself beguided by the feeling of Lust or love Um. Do not let yourself be guarded by thefeeling of last O love. I agree in the sense that Um often times what we should be doing,what we should be saying can be. We can be blinded by love and last and thosesort of things than come and play, but also love is for me the most power foremotion in the world. So it's kind o like that one's a little bit tricky at Al, it sort of Tis in a bit withthat M Detachun a desire, I think, as well Andonot seek pleasure for its ownsick, three of those kind of have some sort of element to tie into each other yep. That's right! That's right! NumberLeven, the wardens a bit funny, because I meanobviously love is something you want to keep in your life. It gues Coul, stop!I do not like yourself be Gad by loft. That would be. That would be quite easyto to understand. Yeah a hundred percent, a hundred percent Um yeah loveis the yeah loves, th loveis. Definitely thetricky part of that one number eleven in all things have no preferences thos impossible sometimes, but I thinkwhat that's trying to say Maye can elaborate. More is don't let thepreference influence your decision like to make a right decision, maybe yeah, because sometimes you're so soldon things. That may not even be good for you, but you just Soldo Soldon themfor the sake of being sold on them, because that's what you just wantedless. If you e about to buy a TV, you know- and you just go hey. I want thatT v because I o know You'e Seen Yu to bid Y on it and you go to buy andthat's the one you go by and You des You K Ow, you have a oppotune to get abetter T V for a cheaper prize in Teis. Exemplary, like pord example that I canuse. So many people go hey well, but that you to perhas its I' going to gothis with this on t this TV yeah and you know, tms cod dopen irgm one basketas well sort of I guess, being being open to different possibilities, and you know being happy with sometimeswhat you get as opposed to not getting that one thing that you really prefer yeah, that can often blot be blinding, and you can oftenminimize like a good feeling or a great experience, because you think all thatwas good. But I wish this had have happened right. It's like no, thatdoesn't Ma happen. Like yeah, Yeh, yeah well said well said this next one wasprobably the one that I disagreed totally with and it was bindifferent to where you live and indifferent basically means to not careto not have any feeling towards it, be...

...indifferent to where you live hm yeah. That's that one is interestingH I mean I, I can get the aspect of the fact that you can, by being atdifferent places. If 'cause often people can get really attached to theplacs they live. I mean never go anywhere. I think that probis, yourownside show Butito, see liking where you live, is probably important as wellmoscely a pride and understanding absolutely Um. Thirteen do not pursue the taste ofgood food. Now tlet's complete ballshit a I was to'm likefrom from acutreness anHelta, absolutely like t that Mais that dirty old ch actually Il tell you whata oquickside note. There's a beautiful burger shop up here in Cosaba calledCarni and L Shar attacaniaels. They have a burger called the widow make? UListen To this three pieces: beef, paddy three pieces of cheese, threerashes of Bacon, three Hash browns. What do o? I think I Beedai E T B, Shuot te Cinoknows we're going to give it a go on Monday. So, if I don't come back, youknow what happend day, but now I think I think in we all havedifferent relationships with food and what food can provide. Fou Our lives,but, to be honest, there's not you know and there's everything in moderationfor sure, but there's no there's not a lot better than having a good mul at anice restaurant with good people right like yeah. I think from sort of the way some philosopherstalk about that likexanica talks about decontent with the scantiest offer andUm. I I've heard some people where they they'll go, maybe a month each yearwhere they live off, they're, rice and black beams. I could just be just to beaware of what it would be like if they had to live in. You know the mostbasical accommodation in one or two set the clothes and live with the mostbafic rations possible. I I I I don't like. I don't think Icould. You know live that way, but I like thatidea of I have in your mind in the place thatyou could you're aware of what the worst gistinara could be. You mightyeah, you lose your job and your Youro, some sort of real wic. You can come Yepand you need to minimalize here. You can't go out to eat five days a weeklike you normally wear that sort of thing. Yeah, that's a really good point:Yeah Yeah Yeah, it's kind of connor and I've been onthis diet. Basically, when we basically eat the same three meals forsix weeks with little variety- and I mean you can cook chicken and beef andeggs like one different ways, but you kind of realize how good the foodtastes after a while when youare eating Mikofer Yh, know you're not putting awhole bunch of other things into you're, actually eating for purely what it isright like it, a yeah and the feeling it gets like. That's? Uassess your mood after your food assess the way you feel after you wat andthat'll guide you often to like. Maybe I should be etting this food assess. You moved after your food thatthat's going down in the books, innember twenty t, that's yeah, that'!Probably then orsor they put five all right that beforeend. This isprobably yeah. This migt be one of my favorite ones. I do not hold ontopossessions, you no longer need one hundred percent xminimalism is isprobably yeah. It's the best way, ecause what doesn't serve you get ridof it and it's so easy for objects and different things to have such a. Youknow an effect on your life that you know it's like. Well, maybe s charity,for example. Maybe someone else could use this and I don't need it anymore,but so many people we know probably me included that horde a little bit morethan they should and all that sort of thing so do not hold onto possessions.You no longer need don't be tied to those physical things that don'tprovide you a service or anything anymore. yeits. This AL, I madicts. U ActualSpace as well as Manelis, that's right y! Ah, that's so true. Um Numberfifteen do not act following customary beliefs that one I might actually have to lookinto to figure out exactly NOTTA SAING OE, not at following customary beliefs.What would be a customary beliefe, Exalik, traditional and some culturesthey have they they do things base on on customs.You know Toin itigin in or the POSSA play. There was a whole thing where tat female gabmulation was a like a rictual and some tribes. Sopeople were following that: a Asulbe, a customery believ instead ofthinking, omit people, I'm thinking about the traumaat causing people. So from what I take Ootis, that's what that's what I means.It don't be doing things just besed on...

...that, the customer, the culture as wells always been yepy, radium and think of how you're ahacting people and what tothe bath there right and there's particularly throagoat history- and you know fair while ago, in most placeslike the way women were treated in comparison to man. That's probably abig. One too, is, like the you know, lower level of not a quality in thatsense, so yeah that one actually starts to make sense. Now, that's well importthings. MIHT UM number! Sixteen do not collect weaponsor practice with weapons beyond what is useful, so Um yeah. So you probablydon't need a Bazuka defendyour house, a pistol, be a pistol wit survice. But no, I guess, and that's sopractical to the Samui life, but don't you know dodctors have this thing?Don't just have this thing because look what I have like have a practicalelement of it: Don't just goin beyond Belat Yeah, let's say: if Yo have a car,you mean you carnieces or the purpose of you know, driving o work just likewhat we're talking about before. If you ever Pierce Five, you don't breathyneed the P S, five that has gold. That's a great point, at's a great.Unless you've got you know, stupid, disposwall income like many popes, likeyour doin, like I mean if I is Youre poing somewhereelse, you kN W Y, that's right and it's not at the end of the day, onlyproviding a short little emotional thing. It's not actually giving youanybenefit, O y. that's a really good point: UM number seventeen! This is probably bigone. You know the leading cause of most people. You know internal anxieties. Donot feer death. It's coming for us, we're all going to die, don't fear! Itis going to happen. Try to maximize our life for what we have now. That's whatI take out of that one. The best way to look at it is Voy alldying on made at a time. I I think this is the most difficulconcept t to get your hat around you know do not fear death, because I I think I don't know abut you guys,but I I don't think that I fear at, but then, when you think about it, youthink about all the things you don't do. N You sort of look into your reason, OI I don't I don't say tha certain thing, becauseyou Nowi'm afraid of hurting someone's feelings, and then you hear people talkabout when you go deeper into these tin. It all comes back to your fear of death. I that I don't think people fear death, people,fear dying without living yeah and it's also the it's also fee. It's the feeritself, not so much actually dying. It's the actual feear experience, Tleymost people you talk to if they talk about the most traumatic experiences intheir life. Like a lot of people, re going to say when I nearly died, I hadthis car crash or I nearly drowned or something like that. So yeah, it's P,it's the Fearis sociated with the detris that emotion, it's not so much.You know we're all we're all. Even the dumbest on people know they're going todie like no one sh. You know no one realizes that you know. Maybe they do.I don't know. Maybe I'm a Focellin people but m yeah. I think that's areally good point. Think peol do the but younodondrn oeom yeah gone. No, you gone, I'm thinking, I'mtthink in terms of like feeven heving money for a ready day, for example, andI'm guilty of this because well u you need toseven to keep yourself afloat,but again, that's another thing. That's like not living in the moment aswell: 'cause, you're, sort of saving for retirement and that's osthing. IBou with quite often me. You think you should be living in amoment more taking more CHALC for risks. I now how do you find that balancebetween liven in the moment roprond to the future and not therein Dearh? I think if you actually follow like ifyou follow a mixture of principles, that's when you actually breaks. I meanjust like that's what it says before. Like you, K, ow, don't hold on thepesectens. You don't need 'cause. If wo don't do that, even if yo. So that'swhat you have to do, I guess your character. It doesn't. You know you. Liy living in the moment becomes different from being a person who worliving in tha moment is like. I need to go, buy a NEPs for with you know, goldon it. Like I guess I mean you need to R, maybe that's not living in themoment living the moment is perhaps other things you know Dur Magride, mygaze. Yes, that's your geese grounded for tolaythe EF ORT now of gold paysfive Ino. I'm sure next talked about itwesed to do ris Shi back in city and that we had a segment called Grm myyears and we were just ran about something stupid and tha was one ofthose they shaed it to the sands o summer righyeahoo Swe UED to have weech have a signe effect, Thi used to go, but you know jsto the old I Saye, butalso I'm sick. I'm just going to do this. You should play that after it. We thinkof one of these rules. E Ov, it hly dirty boys at number. Eighteen donot seek to possess either goods or thieves for your old age and thieves isspilt, fiefs in fit that's like lands...

...property do not seek to possess eithergoods or theves for your old age. I guess I take that as like or when Iget to Retirem an age or when I get older, I'm going to have this house I'mgoing to have this and that and then you get to that age and that doesn't f.That doesn't feel that whole that Voy, that you're looking for Um and at theon of the day like you, can't take your money with you. When you die, you can'ttake your physical property with Uniongi. That's probably how I canceptualize that one yeah that that's a, I think, that's adifficult one, because our old culture is kind of be Arin, that humulate andwealth and status as you grow with age yeah. It's a little bit of luck of lifewisdom, a trying to be yeah trying to breach beyond what Um makes you happy,but there's also an element of pride in being out to buy that house or beingonprovide for your family rig. So that's little bit of a train up in thatregard. Number Nineteen, this one I know me and and ECAL probably going totouch bases on a little bit, respect Buda and the gods without counting ontheir help. So the way yeah you go first yougofirstI annptetic, I think th whe, regardless of relegion or high power. You talkabout, I think, most of the time. People's relate relationship withreligion is always about asking. You Hey, like no ou, know, God give me thiscar like you want this. I want the piece for with gold, orte Yo Aing, andyou know I think it's it's it's important to not continuily ask and actually relyupon yourself, gradually H, fulfew your dreams and desires, so to speak than tojust go hey like in a hecg like I want that person to be. I want to bein relationship with that person. Helped like you know, O I I think somany people bereligion in that sense more so than anything else. But if you,you know, if you, if you really like you know, have faitein in the philosophy of b. In that sense or, like you know, in in theteachings of G, like no Jesus or whatever like whatever book, it is, ifyou actually still have faith in it, but like hey well, you know I have thatin the back of my head, a believe something to I believe in, but I reallyneed to ask for something all the time. Yeah, that's right it it. This is oneof those one. That's super easy to say than to actually practice, because Idon't know if you heard the saying that, even when in need ven, the blind manlooks up to the sky. Yeah that' Yeh, yea Yo're, not Soro, respectpute in the gods, without counting on their helping. I think I see that isthe same way like at the Ond ofthe day. If you want to make a change in yourlife like most, people will go to God or they'll go to whatever they see isof God when they need help, but that help that has to come fromwithin. You have to want to do the changes and you have to want and makethose sacrifices. When I read like counting on them from help like, Ibelieve I can always count on for God when I need God or and always, but I'mnot coming to Godsaying, I can't pay my rent this week. Like. Can you help meup rather like it? You know. So it's it's KINDOF like inceptualizing alittle bit and you know obviously taking it for what it is, but yeah. Ithink, having that internal drive to problem solve and get to where you needto go, I think that's that's KINDOF whay they're getting to this, that thatis a good one m, the hot dat bi hot tiis. If you ask cod for three hundreddollars and your banker Gand, it's probably not going to happen, and if ithappens, then it means body. Syrie was listening, so it's not good either. You just sold Yoursolf for threehundred dollars, nouber twenty! You may abandon your ownbody, but you must preserve your honor and that's like the ultimate Umsumurirule. You may abandon your own body, but do not you must preserve yourhonor, so be willing to be willing to die forwhat you believe in you know be willing to y you're going to pass awayeventually you're of going to Bandin your body you're, going to abandon yourflesh, but always have your honor intact. What you believe in deepandtonly have that intact, so that othat's een, litl ie live alife. Itpurpose that yeah, not if you die, if, if you die you're, not going to beashamed, ofanything that you've Um, you've done or you're not going toleave by a lagrathy of sort of H, your family, being ashamed of you yeah. That's a really good point H inthe last one gentlemen, very well done ou stuck with me through to the end.This might be the great saying of the Samurai never stray from the way, and Ithink the way is the y never stray from Hem. Your purpose never stray from thereason. You're existing l, your meaning in life, never stray from the way baby agreed. One hundred percent got tostick to your your philosophy, your method, what you believe in one hundredpercent agreed loe boy as Wa, a yeah that was the twenty one rules of life,Miamotmiamoto Musashi. If you're listening brother, we appreciate itwhat's that over four hundred years, ewer stupidivefor- I, U do geting theword out there, so I think you very much me aae. Think I anoa O Gonn beBort.

SORRY GO HEAH! Really! I I wanted Iquickly touch on. This. Is something I feel like it should be on part of thatlist is right and it's is that passion is a fools Theran, and this is this issomething that I've been saing if they bit a lot more of, I feel like PA sortof, I guess they sort of talked about it, desires and whatnot. I think it'simportant to live with your. You know never straigt from the way which isimportant supertrue, but I think, but people say hey like I'm letting call myway, because this is my passion is, I think, that's really t e fool Terran,but that's about it great greed. You know it's going to be awailable on thehomework section of our page blody. So would your w your m? Would yourunderstanding of what passion represents in that circumstance be likemotivation and it fades and its slide soar, relying just on passion alone,you're not going to get into anyting? WELL PEOPLE S! It's! When you look atthe things that people talk about what I'm passionate about, if you evee justgo thr, if you as someone wat the Quession wit likee I'pessionate aboutyou, know climbing roles it's most of a time, what they're talking about isjust gives them, like. You know temporary pleasure, ith, a hobby Yeatoomany times, yeah it's a few too many times, and they think that's what needsto be done. So when Peo, I think this a huge culture was like follow yourpassion. I think I mean if someone is really good at something like Ou Kno,if your Pecasso and that's your passion and that's your dream and you reallyGoo at it by all means, wor your passion and your dreams and what youcould add. But for most people when they say this is their passion is mostchances. Are It's j? It's what they've been h. The group they've been hangingout with that's what they do. So they get few of Thee. You know emotionalneeds fiel and they just assume THAs passion. So I think that's interestingto look at it and go hey like y know. That's probably not your way, so it'simportant to find that yeah. That's so true, and I it justprompted me to look at one of the other quits that we looked at before. I can'tremember why and I can't Roa Whit so that doesn't even matter o Figat thatpoint y t it doesn't matter, but no absolutely impassions are powerfulmotion like you, don't feel more live than when you're passionate aboutsomething right. When you know so intrigues you in the passion comeflowing out your body, but that's different to what you're speaking aboutright. That's the kind of a different Eliot of it and and being I no. This iswhat it was being able to change, because you're going to have save yourpassion. Is Sport or you're not just going to be able to play sport becausemost people can't like okay W am I going to be a journalist? Am I going toteach sport? Am I going to do these other things? So it's being practicalwith that passion as well right, not just being like m. We I just Wantta,you know I just want to do this and I'm going to stick to it. Yeah I love it. Ilove it. Boys, yeah, all right, wes yeah, we've nearly cracked two hours Co.This has been amazing, but I feel like we could talk to you like every episodeevery day of the week. So did you boys have anything more to ad at all? I think I'm good. It's J t time for mytinner yeah nowtit's. True, we've been yeah. We've been pushing this hard, mystomachs Ben from up and cus ut me for a while. So it might be a good idea, beautiful, O much t'srap up andobly things, GonYeah. We appreciate it might obviously check us out on you know all the greatchannels that were on all sportofly on Apple Pod, gas, on social media. Wereally appreciate everyone. Listening I've been locky joined by Anique invery special guest corner. We appreciate you so much bother. This hasbeen the clever dummies, pod, gast, WHEAROUT BU.

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