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ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast. We have a special guest Conor Mac Cormaic.

We talk about the great quotes over the years and dig deep to find the implications of the lessons found within such quotes. If you want to hear more from Conor check out is an amazing blog at www.halfmanhalfnoodle.com.

Hello everyone, and welcome to episode number nineteen of the clever dummies podcast. I am blocky, is always joined once again by Nick. How you going today? Brother? I'm good. My Man, I'm good. I'm good. You Sound Nice and loud. There perfectly the picture, Claire, my as always, I did. I did buy a new microphone about four years ago and I'll finally figured out how to use this. So hopefully we're coming for a good baby, and I meant it's a sad day too. I don't think we've done too many said they podcast, mate. So we've got a little pepper our step and we've got a little special guest to I think, calling in might all the way from south of the border, south the news of els border. They reckon m deep down in the dark web, deep down in the dark web, I mean far from me, but not too far. I mean about I'm talking about twoty meters, I'd say, yet the maximum distance. Connor, safe, my soul good, say hello, Connor. So Connor is my house made and a great friend. And or we're doing this beautiful period of lock done in here in Melbourne. We've learned a lot about each other and you know, we had fair bit in common and a lot not in common, which is always good. Things are talk about, things to learn from from each other. So, you know, thought give Connor and shout out and say hey, you's going to come on and talk some match it with us on the podcast. Yeah, glad to be I don't day. I think we're slowly more from the one personally. We've spent that much time together over this love time. That's okay. So can't see us that. The hairs looks virtually identical and they give him a couple more weeks, that bear will come in real fast because he grows at like no tomorrow, and you boys could just do I don't know why I swap what if you not as should, I could. Could have you one. Brother. Have you had the the pleasure of listening to any of our other episodes? Might? Yeah, I've listened to a few sporadically. Learned a bit. Yeah, familiar with it. Fantastic. That's a few more than my family has said. A very good mate, a loyal listener here. How goods that, brother? We always like it's appreciate a loyal listener on the podcast. You know sometimes, sometimes I wonder if we got more listener or more guests on the show, more than Daddy, and you know we both make up half of viewers and listeners and all that. But a might we we're here, try and swing in the axe. It's five, nearly six o'clock and a beautiful said Diabo, so let's Hook and a boys and I'll guess I got a little question there for you, Connor. You know pretty much every every bloody episode made a naked kind of giving our two cents on the covid situation. You could go as deep or as light into it as what you what you kind of like in I guess what is. What is the last few months been like for you, particularly down obviously down in Melbourne, where you know it's as ties as it is anywhere in the country. Thea think for me it's been a bit of a mix bag. I mean the the very beginning was it was a bit of a novelty. I sort of got stood down from work, with which we can nice. Have never worked from home before, and then a few weeks in, you know, once you've walked in Offen, we with a few nights drinking like the Kila, which was a lot of fun, and then I guess it was like maybe a few weeks of just being in a bit of a hole, you know, because it's hard to yeah, it's kind of fun to motivate yourself that you play guitar, red books or hang out every day, but after a while it's difficult to keep keep that there. We'll keep going. But yeah, so this past while has been good, I think, because everyone's complaining so much about how bad it is in Melbourne. It's kind of made me feel better because it's just it's kind of, you know, it's not the worst situation you could be in. Still still got money to my friends and so I'm doing pretty good to that. But it's been up and down. Yeah, that's the theme of it. Always the same. We I work at a I work at a gym up here and I work at a golf course. The Gym's were pretty much shut down from the get going. The golf course is open for a little bit, but I was a casual there, so lower on the peck in order and they sort of pulled the pulled the string on me early. We actually get over half our business in coffs harbor actually comes from Melbourne. We get a heap of heap of corporate our golf courses, and I mean we have all boy who's down there? The the CEO of NAB bank, like few big boys playing if ifl players and that sort of things. I wasn't really required at work and I was the same like for Giddy up job seekers coming in. It's just like I'm back at unied, just stuff I left high school. I don't have to work and I'm getting a few dollars here or there, and then very quickly it's like, you know, and obviously the media and everything else that sort of wears on your bitinet sort of starts a wearing. But I think it's kind of you know that they talked about the new normal and it does feel a little bit like a new normal now, but it certainly feels like we're getting close to the end there. It's just like we're kind...

...of holding out now for like when, you know, when are they going to make the move and everything else. But Hey, it's you know, it's good that we've got a few people to talk to and people out there. So it's a drinky situation, but fuck, we could spend all days that, could we? At the beginning, you know, I was playing a lot of Tanction to the news, and it's since I've took you took a stand back and not been paired much attention to to what the media sound I feel up better. It's nearly like, yeah, develop anxiaddy, just reading things and I'm here and all these facts. That's right. Yeah, I'm the opposite that. I mean I've learned to look through me what media says. But I read, I read. I'm on the all the press conference. I'm listening to all the press conference, mostly because what my concept there is I try and I want to get the direct news directly from when those press conferences are happening, versus read about it later they might have the opinion or be ah, the opinion in it, because, you know, obviously I've declared war on media. Yeah, we have. Yeah, I guess we've declared war media. So, you know, got a, got a, got to get some of it. But yeah, like, I think I hundred percent agree with that. Like I think the half of the reason for all the anxieties actually the media, like majorly. I mean this. You know, there's they for the bus fist. Six months we haven't made a podcast without bagging out a media but you know, it's true, though. That's that's what it is. Half of the anxiety actually comes from just media, by those incredible headlines. You know, Dan Andrews says will be in here for another six weeks. Just reads from six weeks, six weeks ago. Yeah, I actually have thought today we're fighting a good fight. Like it. It might not always seem the right thing to do and sometimes we think like old people sick of hearing about it, but sometimes you've got to stand up for what's right. And been far too long that our society has been controlled by, you know, a small percentage of the population, particularly the ones, the corporations that are own the media. So, you know, that's a bit of thing about our podcast. We have that avenue in the chance to even if one person here's a you know, trying to get an ulterior perspective and once you know how the business works, where you know they're all full of Shit. They just scared shitless because their business model is dying. I mean they're attacking social media now for all the fake news. It's like, Bro you guys laid there of the you know, the Road Map for all that sort of things. Yeah, it's about I'm happy to fight every day of the week. Mights. I'll never run out of steam. Fence something, but it is what it is. Obviously I'm sure the guys listening could hear a little accent. They might very far in Irish accent. Did you want to go just a little bit into might about your I guess how long you've been in Australia form what it's like in that I mean I could be the best country in the world. Pretty much is you. I've been here three years, coming up three years in October in Melbourne. Originally from Ireland, lived in England for a few years it. Was a teacher for a few years and struggled with it. was just not the career for me. And then, I think, like a lot of people, when you're you're doing something you're you don't enjoy the the next logical stuff is to go traveling for a while. So travel for a few months and quite common for a lot of Irish people they always end up in Australia and when I was younger, a lot of people who I knew who came to Australia. We're probably not the sort of people I would have you know, sociated with and they they're all going to bond. I beach. I used to think like the last piece I'll ever got really a hundred percent. Yeah, and then it just came round to and we were this set over the side of the world and Asian, I thought, well, give it a go. Came to Melbourne, had a mid from uni, jared, who was over here doing the same sort of work, and then, yeah, it's time was just flown. Ever since I've had a really good time people over here, as everyone says. So led back. Well, I is great, and I mean the weather. Sometimes it's quite nice like that, sometimes it's quite nice. Well, I'm, you know, looking at the wind, doing he can thinking. Today is not one of those days. But you know, once in every everyone, every five days pretty good. Yeah, now we'll take it down there. Amount it's world renouncer. I guess. I'm sure you get every every man. He's dog as see this. But hot topic, hot take caught him a great national treasure or staying on the the nation of Ireland might. What do you reckon? It's probably depends what the stage of his career. You know, you're looking at actualink. Some some of the this things and some of the things he stood for were like, I don't follow them too much, but again, tromand a spider, he he re is the profile of UFC. It teams to an incredible level at kind of mixed that like sort of Shit Top, and that used to be in wrestling, American wrestling when I was young. You know, that trash talking kind of thing. Yeah, double be Yep. But I think as well a lot of the his antics outside of the sporter pretty, pretty, pretty questionable. And I get I don't know everything. Bide him, but I think something he's done's been really good. But it's...

...one thing. Anywhere in the world you go, it's like one of the first things people say to you, especially when your name is connor. The hell as well, right, I felt like I felt like these I've got to go down that the bloody cliche avenue there, but I thought I'd asked. I'm a big USC fans. I couldn't help it. But interesting fact, before he made his UC debate debut in two thousand and thirteen, the original owners of the USC they were the Betea brothers. Their big they own casinos in Vegas and they valued they were looking to sell the UFC two thousand and twenty thirteen for about one point five being trying to push to be in a few years later, kind of comes in, you know, kind of blows the whole thing up and they end up selling for nearly four and a half bion dollars. So him alone comment did that and he's sort of worth that and I agree like it's it's unfortunate the things that have happened outside of the cage and I think he's just a you know, as a young guy who got thrusted into the spot like and he spoke really well, so people had like this misconception that he had it all together, but he's just like anyone else. He's going to make his mistakes. But he's got a couple of kids now, so you hope he sort of turns it around, but you know, it's yeah, I guess it's one of those things like that. You'ry was going to have people want on one side of think like I like the guy, and then the other ones like he's amazing, can't go wrong. But Anyway, look, there gone. I think he was. There was some talk of and building sort of highs and projects or something in double yeah, or like glory income families and I'm not sure if that was off the back of some sort of scamble or it was actually some sort of good philopropou I think it was. Yeah, so I mean I guess, you know, if he's doing it, that's fantastic. But yeah, I think it was off the back of one of his yeah, you got there's a couple of things, like he had one where he he punched a bloke in his in in a bar because he refused to drink his whiskey, the proper told whiskey. What's he done as well? The obviously had the whole thing with floyd. He had had some sexual assault accusations that, thankfully, were proven to be false, because that's one of those things you can't really come back from, and and just a lot of partying. So I got that had just all this fame and then, you know, it's sort of seeing fall again, but it's come back, which is good. But anyway, enough of that. Might were obviously had will speaking just before we started the podcast, who are wanted to you know, had a really good topic to talk about today, a little bit of like an overall life topic. So you want to lead us into it? Might Yeah, I'll go into just before I go doing to that. What I wanted to say was everyone is equally fucked up equally. But you know, it's so often we, you know, look and you know roumanticize all these people because you know they have the status and watching, because you know they're just trying to deal with problem sets much as we are like. You know, it's funny because Conna actually got me onto reading this book's Mediticians by Marcus Arellis, and like I was reading is because it's like like, you know, you think about the thought process behind that. Guys like being a Roman emperor. You know, he was trying to make sense of life equally as much as we are like at the time, you know, and being one of the most powerful men in the world. And same thing goes were like not conna connor, but the other Connor mccreager. It's like, you know, he's doing the same thing. You know, obviously we all going to be fucked up like so, which is which is a really nice set where he was a trial but is that? That's right? Like he first kind of first of He's kind in the industry. So now that's a really good point. Yeah, and you look at Justin Bieber. He's another great example, you know, a young person who gets into thing and people go, well, he's so fucked out. I mean what we what else did you expect? I mean he didn't know any better, he had no struggles in life. Like, what did you think was going to happen? You know. So in fact it be. It'd be a fools are and to think that person would just turn up, turn up, be it, turn up and be a person with full of virtues. I think that's that be a fools are and to think that way. But anyway, that brings us to nicely segue into our today's topic, which is, you know, overall cheer, overarching, I suppose, like, you know, some life lessons from some of the greats of all the years. You know, maybe quotes from a movie or maybe a quote from a book. So we got to focus on those quotes and you know, we all hear those quotes and you know, we always forget about those quotes. What was that? Caught again the subtext of my life. So, you know, we'll go through the connor actually came up with this ideas like well, let's talk about a court and dissect a particular quote like yeah, I like a caught moves to us and you know, I though it's a little bit of a shift from what we normally do. Our Talk Shit and so, but it's kind of night a nice I like a nice little shift every so often. It's always good. So, you know, you bring in new blood and you mix things up. That's what that's how the game works, and they get think that's where the first time Marcus are really as in Justin Bieber, has been put together, and that's what this might wear wave groundbreaker. See might it's? Yeah, that's exactly right. So we're already starting with the you know, it's a good start. So we got a fair bit of option here, and Connor put together little list as well. So right off the Bat I'm going to start with a quote that I actually read earlier today, which is in fact this right off the...

...bat and raise my quot there. It is all right, go patience is bitter, but it's fruitty sweet as total is the quote. I mean a lot of it is self explainatory, but give me a thoughts, guys. You want to go first corner. Yeah, I think that's that's great. I'm very like I've always find a quotes to be great for sort of some temporary motivation, because I found a lot of things I've done in my life I kind of expect instantaneous results. You know, if you start, let mee say, for example, you started and you work our plan and within two weeks you're failing all this growth and you're like wow, this is this is amazing. When you get that dip where we're not much happens, you don't get that beginner's beginners growth, and then that's definitely where I fall off the wagon on a lot of things and that quote like that is is good help you, help remind you that things take time. Yeah, I like that. I do like that. I do do it. I it's actually pretty funny. I looked at that court the day because I was writing an article, as in sense of relationships, and which is pretty interesting because my thought pattern day was was talking about, you know, people who are often in a single and kind of desperately want to be in a relationship and you know it's and they end up making certain decisions that may not be great just because you know there they just cannot wait for the end result and I think sometimes, and kind of touching on what you said connor there as well, like life is kind of like a movie or you know, sometimes you have to wait to find out what happens at the end of for the good thing is, you know, life is a long movie, If you compared to movie, but you know, so sometimes you got to wait to see what happens. For what a in terms of relationships? What do you think that like the patient's aspect is just wait and to sort of find someone you can act with, as opposed to Russian to just get into relationship with someone for the sake of Dire? Well, I think there's more. What there's that aspect for sure, but there's also the aspect of the first thing is I don't want. I don't want, I don't like the idea of sitting around hoping that someone will just knock on my door be like Hey, I love you, you are the love of my life. I don't think that will ever happen. But what could happen is, instead of you know, the chances are you'll go through the few failed relationships and probably few, feel like you still have to make the effort. I think that's where a lot of people go wrong. That could quote could be taken the wrong way. Well, I'm just going to sit here and wait. But I think you still have to you know, go through you your you know, your number of failed relationships or sometimes or you know, you go into a relationship and you might have to be patient to see if that works out or what not. But I think it relate patients plays are a huge roles in life and relationship. But didn't just my example. I want to use relationships. I think even when you're even when you're in a relationship, sometimes you have to be patients, patient just to actually, you know, give the other person room for certain scenarios and be patient to you know, to put up with their problems and, you know, deal with their pomps and everything. So I think that aspect was that was my example of bridge. I think it's a it's so true because sometimes you don't want to wait for things, but you know you got to do it. and like, just as touching on your example, I think I talked about this in a previous podcast. It's it's easier to get off the high of the motivation video of David Gogan that you just watch and soon as I run out and you're like well, what now? You know what as soon as you get to what now, and that's what happens with a lot of addiction as well. People fall off, people relapse when the when nothing happens, you know, because you don't like or re read a book any of those things. When you do, you don't see that results until like years down the track or like the benefit of it. But I think it's that court is just king to perfectly sums it up. You know, patients is bitter, it's hard, but the fruit is sweet. That's right. And just like anything, it's be like acquiring a new skill, getting your degree. You have to go through that process in order to reach the end goal. Like that's the reason why it's system as you can't just go from AIDS edge straight away. And I guess it's all about you know, that's where you can really use perspective to help you get through. And like I have to go through this difficult I have to go through the bitterness to get to the sweet throat at the end. But it's it's almost human nature, right, like you, you do something, you set out of goal. That's like the thirst thing you do. You decide what you want to do and there's a goal, they're so immediately like why, okay, that's what I want to reach. That's not the hard part, that's the easiest part, is actually getting through. It's that and it's you know, it's the process of getting to that end goal. So I guess that that quote resonates for me a lot because I'm, you know, naturally a pretty impatient person. So I've certainly had to learn and you know, the last couple of years, if in my maturation as a person, I've had to learn how how critical and key patients is and we have to...

...be patient because it's, you know, anything good in life that you can get quickly probably is not all that good. Rights just like anything. So, I mean, patients is bitter, but it's fruit is sweet. You can apply it to kind of anything in life, but it's the bitterness of the patients that kind of you know, that's what you need to really that's the real skill. It's like it's the process and not the end goal. So that's really good and aristotles known for a couple of good quotes. Much so that's that's probably one of the bidders. I'm quite often, you know, you sort of look at people and the position they're in and you you never really think of what they've gone through to get to that stitch. Yeah, you know, you look at top, top athlete or somebody very successful and business and you think, Oh, they've had some good bricks or the good genetics. You don't. You don't see the hours are put in and like their pieces are putting. Yeah, that's I think sport. I've I've been interested in sports since I was a kids. I tend to relate a lot of things to it, but sport is the perfect example of it, because you you see a whole bunch of professional athletes play together and then but there's there's a few that is better. It's just like anything. There's the best for the best and the reason why they're they're like they're all genetically if you're a professional basket player, you're all genetically gifted. You were all born with special talents, you all had good breaks and opportunities, but it was who was willing to bite that bit of pooll and who was willing to put in the extra work and grind and get better at their craft in order to get to the end goal. And exact same sort of thing with business. And, you know, even entertainment and anything like that. It's like who's willing to put themselves who's willing to be the most patient? WHO's willing to put themselves through the most hours on the court? Like that's the one thing that they spoke. I'm in many a very good things have been spoken about the late great Kobe Bryant, but that was his that was almost the biggest thing. It's like he was just willing. He was there at five am every day, like he's a world champions, not highest. Played play in the Yeat in the League for years. But if there was a new guy on the team, he spoke at actually at his funeral, he's like came into the side two thousand and eight, thousand and nine. I want was the new guy there. So I wanted to get in and show everyone our hard of a work I was. I got there at five thirty, first one there. Kobe comes in at six o'clock. CEAS he's there at thirty. The next day Kobe's in there at five. Old Boys getting in there at five Hrty, like what the Hell's gone on? And and and Kobe is the first one to leave. I sorry, the first one to get there the last one to leave, and that's kind of the mentality of the one percent of the elite, and we can all take little life lessons in that regard as well. But now that's very good. I was having obviously look at the document you sent through here, and I guess we can move on to another one here, and I really like this one as well. No amount of anxiety makes any difference to anything that is going to happen. And this, this one, kind of is closely related to the other one in the sense like it's so deeply ingrained in our human nature right like we think about a situation, we might be going on a date with a girl, or we might be presenting something to a group of people, and we always go to the worst case scenario, like we always bring that anxiety on what if this goes wrong? What if this goes wrong? And it you know it's so I don't think I've ever been in a situation, maybe once, where my absolute worst what could happen the worst? Nothing's worse, like it's never that bad, and there's always like this feeling of like why did I stress myself out for so long? Why did I waste all this energy on the feeling of what's going to happen instead of actually preparing. So no amount of anxiety makes any difference to anything that is going to happen. The Great Alan Watts as well, if you boys want to levelate on that one a little bit better. But that one hit home, like I do it all the time, like if I have have covers conversation with a person you know is going to be a difficult conversation, it's brings on some anxiety and it fucking it's all right, like nothing even happens. And it's one of those things you need to be made aware of that, to consciously think about it, because I think instinctively, yeah, you naturally do just worry about things because that's sort of human nature. But I find when I keep things have gotten in my head, he sort of go oh well, you know, either you can control the situation, you can do something to make the worry disappear, or you can't, and either way you either do something or you can't control it. So there's no point in worry and really, and it's difficult sort of getting your head around that, but totally something you have to keep in mind. Difficult conversation than I'm maybe something that you get better at as you get older. I know definitely when I was watching. Yeah, I probably spend a lot more time percrastinate and not doing things out of fear of what would happen. I suppose, just baiting the bullet. I'm doing it, doing it. That's right, and you're right. It is so deeply like in inside of it our DNA that like four years I had a natural amount of anxiety whenever I thought about a situation. I didn't even realize it was something that I brought on. I thought it was just a natural part. Until I was made aware of it I'm like, yeah, I'm actually doing this to myself and I can actually and certainly that's one of those things you kind of figure out with knowledge and then also with the experience of it. But yeah, yeah, and I think I'm sorry, Gone...

Connor. Now you're going on. My point is huge. So you've are going to the size of our point here. I think anxiety. It seems to be quite a topical I shoot at the minute as well. Our generation seemed to be very seemed to be very anxious or very focused on anxiety. So it's it seems like a good thing to keep in mind, not even more so than every yeah, mental health is huge. It's so interesting because right there it's a great example, because talk about anxiety right in. The first thing is our generation is probably, you know, high up on the anxiety scale. I mean there's always the aspect of the fact that how much of it did get recorded before? You know, that's so there's always that question. was like, Oh, was it the is there a chance that we weren't just recording anything about how many people are getting, you know, in had suffered anxiety? There is that aspect. Then there's another aspect of I wonder that if our generation is generally just more inchest right. So these few levels to that I can see it. I mean so it's almost not necessarily it's almost a question as well. Sit to see what you guys think. I mean, first aspect that they is, you know, I guess it's elimination process. First thing is, I do think that our generation spends a lot, like I do too as well, like everyone, spends way more time worrying about things than actually trying to do something. So we spend, you know, about x amount of time thinking about doing the task that actually doing it. So you, which probably does actually cause us a lot more insiety because perhaps his comfort, and perhaps it hadn't, has you know, preferred. Perhaps we have the, you know, ability to actually procrastinate a certain thing and then, you know, then to actually without facing the instant consequences. Because you know, from what I know, if you if you didn't pay a rent of you know, a month's rent, you would be out, kicked out. For if you, you know, go back like you know, thirty years or so right, you know you would get kicked out because the the rules were stricter because over the years will become more compassions and there's rules of compassion and all those compassion grounds. So you know, you don't kick tenant out straight away. So I wonder how much of it is. You know, before it was like well, I have to pay a rent, I'm feeling anxious about we're not going to get the money. Is like, well, I have no choice, otherwise I'm going to keep kicked out of the house. Now it's more so home. You know, I have a month to month to procrastinate this because, you know, I'm really anxious about it because, and and that's interesting, and not talking about you mentioned about going on a date, which is so fascinating. So many people do this and you know, I'm I'm et, I'm there as well, not different, but it's so interesting because you're not losing anything. I mean you think, how is it that the thought of some one of the most beautiful things in the world, that going on a date with a beautiful woman, a beautiful woman is giving you her time, and you feel scared about it, you know, if you really think about it. So that's kind of that's kind of it's the whole concept or anxiety is just kind of anti intuitive. Happens all the time. So I think it really needs something that we need to all we all need to be attention to, like why is it happening, like you know, and obviously social media, and Connor I were talking about this early today, like doesn't help insiety. I mean, so the concept of social media is not new, but it's the how much it has ramped up different the content that we are, you know, feeding our self. That's the problem. Obviously we had magazines before and all those kinds of stuff, so that was also causing people anxiety, but it wasn't just at a skill that we do now. You know, soon as you turn on social media, you say four people who were like, you know, have Ferraris and a lamber Guinea at an age of nineteen. You're like, well, but clearly I'm doing something wrong with my life, and so, you know, start questioning your choices. Yeah, where only the trial period of human history. I think obviously we've, you know, were the first generation to be born. Essentially, we're a little bit older than the birth of the Internet, but kind of born into it. So we're kind of like the trials, like the all right, good luck guys. So we're that's why I think, particularly in society, it's really coming to the forefront now, because it's never happened before. Right, yeah, and before, I guess you could only see the lives and celebrities who you would expect to have more things than you have. But now, yeah, as an Eke Sen, you're seeing pictures of nineteen year old who might not be pms but have a lot of wealth. And coming back to the idea of the deep, I suppose you feel like anxiety, because maybe it's a sort of self tide and myself worth in somewhere. Are you're anxious because you might not be good enough for that person or you make it turned down. And the more, I guess, you look at the lives of other people, you sort to think you're not doing enough and maybe that's possibly why anxiety seems to be higher in our generation. Yeah, there's a there's a really you know, been a a quite a large shift in conversation and the attention...

...on mental health and even a depression and anxiety at two separate things. It's often an overwhelming amount of depression is causing you to be anxious because you can't change the situation or your you're so depressed that anxiety comes. So they're both really important. It's great that the conversations, but we're all kind of learning about it. So that's why we don't necessarily have all the answers. We can only relate it to our own lives. And my dad would always say like, you know, people didn't talk about it when I was younger and we didn't hear it anywhere, but it didn't mean it didn't happen and we just in a good way. In one way that was good because it wasn't so heavily at the forefront of people's minds. People kind of got used to it as a normal part of life and moved on. But at the same time, like, how many people had to suppress those feelings and how many people wanted, needed to have conversations with loved ones and friends but just didn't know how to, because it's like, what are you talking about? Just smile, be feel better, feel better, be better that. Yes, it's a real it's a real trade off, isn't it? A little bit, and it'll probably take, you know, ten, fifteen years. Yeah, see the facts of what generation h yeah, yeah, I've got a little bit of an unpopular opinion here, and I do want to just quickly, just to top it off, top that all off. You know I'm gonna collect some hitters here. I do, however, want to say, with all that in mind, anxiety is real, depression is real. However, there's also increase in the victim culture of Hey, I have anxiety, despite the fact that it may be just the general fear of life, I mean or I gonna Belie the problem solved. Right. Yeah, that's exactly right. Everyone has problems, but I've also noticed the rise in the I've got anxiety. Have you been diagnosed? No, but I'm self diagnosed anxiety. The interest is so, you know, the rise in the anxiety, of people just claiming that they ends have anxiety and using it as a reason to not not not to get away with from not doing stuff. You know, well, I can't go to the gym because I've got anxiety. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I think that's also to keep in mind. Obviously, I'm not saying that anxiety is not real, but what I am saying is days there is a part of people who almost play that. Well, it's kind of cool to be the victim and kind of cool to be the one who just kind of hangs out at home, never leaves, because they've got social anxiety and they've got all the anxieties under the sun. It provides them like another excuse, and that's the result of why they're anxious in the first place, because they weren't making certain steps in the right direction, they weren't pushing themselves past their point of you know, comfort. But now they almost have like this in build excuse like hey, I don't have to do because I have this. So, yeah, that's unfortunate and an unfortunate side effective of kind of what's going on. That's a really good point. I mean that's quite common with a lot of things, really, isn't that? You know, someone could be severely over weird and that could become a reason for not losing weird. You know, you made a day with with being thiroid a yeah, yeah, you know. And it's it's a similar, similar thing, only in a different or me. And I think because it's sort of a mental thing, it's sort of treated differently, I guess, if you don't if you don't have the tools or you don't know what the tools are to help with anxiety, and then you're also not in a position where you want you know, someone goes to you all, how about you try these steps and you're not in that mental space, you don't want to in the same way if you're you know, I've plenty times in my lifetile ton of we been just eating like a king and drinking, drinking too much, and someone's like, Oh, you know, why don't you try to Amiss, and you like now I'm having a pretty good Chang. Yeah, yeah, that advice on yeah, and I think, you know, it's hard to speak too much on it because, you know, I don't have any practice in the medical field, but medication. The rise of prescription medication over the last ten, fifteen, twenty years is certainly contributed to that. Instead of a psychologist or a doctor working kind of working a way through the problem and trying to find the root of the problem and exploring that Avenue, food, just conversation and in open communication, it's like, okay, you're not feeling the best. His you know, his murders, pain or hear something just to make yourself feel it better. Here's something to help you sleep, when really what that does is it provides a short term relief. Like I was on, I was on any of the present last year. It provided that short term relief that you felt like you weren't at least getting drowned by this thing, but at the end of the day it wasn't actually fixing me at all. It was just providing like a little bit temporary support. And I mean it's really unfortunate, but you look at, you know, all the mass shootings in the US and plenty of crime in the world, almost all of that those people were on certain medications. So it's it's that's kind of the medical field as kind of let us down unfortune a little bit in that area to do. You find like taking the ID, the Presson's help you get to a cleat where you could implement other strategies which, you know what? Hell, yeah, that's right. So with works with my psychologist a little bit, a fair bit, and she really helped. The only my only reason for take it was actually to help me sleep, like I just wasn't able to sleep. The kind of my anxiety gotten so bad that I wasn't able to get rest at night. And you know,...

...within a couple of weeks of taking it, I you know, I felt like I was able to make decisions and I was able to kind of, yeah, kind of work back through, like why am I feeling this way? And you know, I wasn't just so overwhelmed with emotion that I couldn't do it. And and yeah, so that's that's kind of how it helps. But I went into it knowing like I don't want to be on this thing forever, like I this is only meant to be temporary. And I put on I put on ten kilos and two and a half months and that made me feel even worse. I'm like, yes, you know so, and this is the people that aren't by the way, I am like, I'm so damn super fish. Any if I, if I sniff a cheeseburger, I put on to kilo. So like it's you know, that's kind of my own makeup a little bit. But I could see, I could see how people that's a trap and people, you know, take this stuff of the rest of their lives because it's a it's a band aid, it's a temporary effect. It's self medicating in it in an example, but they certainly have a place. Like I'm not here to advocate that we should stop using them and there's heaps of medical literature that supports their use. But that one big thing that I actually found out from my doctor is like you can go on the cycle once. They usually give you really low dosage. Then they try to win you off and see how you go. Second Time you get a little higher dosage, you'll get wined off again, but be careful because the third time you go on it you have to take for the rest of your life. It does it. It has such an effect on your your your hormones, in the way your brain functions of that third time or your third cycle. Essentially, if you've tried to say get off at a few times. That third time you're run there. A lot of the time that's the final that's the final store. Your brain actually needs that to function for the rest of their life. Like that's that's what he said to me like on my second time. So he's like if you stop now, just be careful. This third time can be serious and there's a heap of medical research has been done on that. So that's I think, just educating people a little bit more on severity. Right would turn like that. That's good. You were able to have that conversation. I've heard, like quite a lot of friends, been on different cycles of any process and that conversation never really happens. It's more of a you take this to solve this. It's it's it's better the way you sort of think about it gone. You know, I want to be honest for a while, the control these feelings and get off it and you understand the risks and where it's going. That's right now. I'm very blessed up here to have a really good doctor and I was also doing my own research and, you know, because I knew, I just knew that anything like you want to be able to hopefully live your life without needing anything like. Obviously you can have a drink here or there and, you know, have a smoke here or there, whatever else, have some fun, but you want it, you know, you want to be kind of relying upon yourself. So that's what prompted me to do that. So I was really blessed. But unfortunately, you know, there are a lot, too lot of doctors out there and we've probably all been to doctors. I can rumber heaps of times I've been to a doctor where just like you're another number, get in, I'll put a bandit on it, so your next week, kind of things. Yeah, I think greater education in that apartment too would really help that. Hey, it is what it is. Yeah, anyway, might did. It is what it is, what it is, baby. That's the that's the thing of the show. Might that might be that we not have to rebrand. It is what it is. Welcome to the all new it is what it is show. It is what it is show. You can go any rabbit hole there. Really good. No, I mean, I don't have much to say to that. Like I think I've been pretty blessed over the years. I mean, I like to think it is something to do with my own ability to learn about different things and my ability to, you know, use the knowledge that I've learned to become more become more suffice, self sufficient and try not, like, you know, never go so far down in the rabbit hole where I am actually suffering. Yeah, from some sinciety. What Thos, been a really mentally strong person and you've always been able to even when you were upset, you've always been able to try to solve. You're a problem solverd by nature. That's why you're so yeah, business. I think. Yeah, so, I think I think naturally, the naturally there was that and then, on top of that, I've, you know, I read a lot and I've done a lot more, you know, looking into it, and I've always been, I mean, I would never always was the person who read a lot, but I started reading a different circle. you start learning that, hey, everyone's up. Was that? Like yeah, and we fixed that person thing. So I think I've been lucky in that sense. So I don't understand too much. I shouldn't be the person who says a lot about this because just like that. It's interesting. You said that because you know from what I read you right in the other day about when you had your head injury a few years ago, like that's a that's a huge incident that most people would put you in the depths of despair and coming coming back and recovering from something like that, I would imagine, is incredibly difficult. Like, I think you're in a perfect positions again talk overcoming difficulty and keeping in a positive space really because, like, when I was reading through it, I was well, better difficulty that must have been. So it's just naturally the way you're all your life. You had the right...

...sort of mentality, but that must have been super beneficial. I think that. I mean that that scenario and see this, this what I was saying, I think, because I obviously was he like extremely difficult, but I saw it as this is how I saw it. The Way I saw it, I was like, well, what are my options here? I can sit here and like, you know, sit here and be sad about the fact that, you know, all of a sudden, you know, I went from being like, you know, being a you know, person in his you know, teenage years and actually having the builty to do all these things in life to, you know, all of a sudden, Hey, like I've been told that I have to stay home for three months and also, by the way, you can't see perfectly from your right eye, like all these things. Or my options there, like you know, I like that. For me, that was pretty when I saw it, I was like, okay, this like this is going to be hard, but what are the options really? The two options, the outcome? There was always two options. One option I can sit here and, you know, be sad, which I was, which I was set, and I think I wrote that as well. I was like at there were times I would actually generally cry because not because and I didn't cry because I was in pain, I cried because I was actually how much I was impacting people around me, you know, and like you know, my mum have took Hass to continuously worry about things and like, you know, like her life, like me, during the whole process, my mom like I could see my mum's here just going gray like from dealing right. Yeah, that and and that was more like scary to me than anything else, because I was like man, I'm like putting people that, letting people down, because I was like, well, for me it's own pretty simple, like I'm like, you know, I was like, well, I gotta get back like there's no other other option is to actually sit here and be sad, and I didn't see myself doing that because I was like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna let anyone ever feel sorry for me, even doing my surgery. I couldn't be I couldn't like. After I doing I was in the hospital, the thing that I did didn't like the most that people felt sorry for me. So I would use humor to change people, like like got to, you know, use humor because got to remind people like I'm not. You don't need to feel sorry for me. Don't not as vegetable you guys. I'm still with you. I'm I think that like perhaps that was like I think that was a good test to see where my mental strength was at. I think in that you're on the you know, you hit the nail on the mark there. So you're right, but I think for me it was it was a little bit easier to make that choices and at least I feel comparative to people because to me I'm still here and I feel like I got through it completely fine. In fact, I came out stronger and my attitude change for Ust of my life. Like you know, most of the time you letting. You really ever catch me really being down. That was about things in the perspective for you. After something like that, you're not going to be you're can be annoyed. If you coco POPs are still in the morning. You're like, I'm very bigger stuff than this. Yeah, that's absolutely upset. In traffic that I mean, I could still get a still get upset of was slowing tide meant nothing might be a more than a slow Internet. Yeah, my staffit first world was will jaggers all the time, but now that was that was you know, that was it was such a great rate in anyone who's listening now it hasn't checked that out. Please do. It's just it. It's good to have that kind of ulterior perspective of a situation that many of us haven't gone through, like a situation that you're very close to no longer being with us, having that perspective and it just shows the strength of your character and the quality of people that your parents are like. They obviously raised you to have that desire and that work ethic, and that's one thing I've started to realize as I've getten older, as you know, I initially teenage years and kind of post high school, I had so much resentment and I would always think about the things that my parents do or the things that I did and I didn't like. And then now it's just like men, there's I wouldn't be who I was without them, you know, and I love who I am. So yeah, for sure. And and honestly, despite the fact how difficult those time be, people can everyone get get through that? And this one thing I do want to say, and that's what I said in the article as well, which kind of surprised me. Not In surprise me, but I was for some reason I didn't think that would be the case. Right. I didn't realize how much like the fact how important people are in your life. I think all the years I've learned that more and more and I I try to do I try to give valued like I tried to make people realize that I appreciate that they're there, because one of the big reasons that I did get through it is the fact that, you know, Lachlin was there, basically coming to see me every day, my parents was there, you know, my friends were there, and I thought that was I'm if I was at home by myself. That would have been ten times more difficult if no one came to see me, and, you know, I just felt left out from everything, you know. So That's interesting as well to me, that how much that people help. So that's why it's kind of goes at a shout out to people like who. Actually, if you have a friend who's going through something like you actually need to talk to him, I mean the WHO. I like the idea of the whole are you okay day? I mean it's turned into...

...a big censors sensitialized media prop now, but I mean I like the idea of it. Like why check up on someone once of once a fucking year, right, like, you know, yeah, if you really are my people, like start talking to people and make sure they never you don't actually need to get to that one day and be like Hey, Y, okay, the are you okay? Ye, like it's kind of like about implementing that thought in your head to check up on people, not just you know, the fifth of September, whenever it is. It's making this daily thing or J's I usually speak to this person a bit more. I haven't heard from this person, like I just might just check in and see if they are okay or not. So, yeah, that's a really good point. Kind of you're going to say something out the same idea, but that are you okay? Yeah, that it was sort of pointless. People ask him once a year and then the more I thought, I felt well here, if it even triggers people to ask once a year, that's better than better than never doing it. You know, that's right. Here's hand Lachlan there. Maybe it'll get people to think a bit more often people who are in their lives all the time and it encourages people to dig, think a bit deeper than those superficial, you know, water cooler chests about the bachelor or whatever is on TV. Want to stay on society. That he is fine. I'm gonna from what you were saying make there's a good quote by Marcus or really as he says that when you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive, to breeze, to think, to enjoy, to love. There's a momentum Mari, I think is the free is and it's the whole concept of you could. You could die at any any moment. Really like death inevitable and he's a room and philosophery. He was also an emperor and he used to this thought that when he was putting his daughter to bed at night, he would just be aware of the thought that she could die in her sleep. And it's so it's pretty pretty dark on space volly. You think he's thinking about its child Dan, but he's just being aware that you don't really know what's going to happen and you should you should try as much as you can to really appreciate every moment. I think experience like what you had anke is something nothing you like. I would ever wish that to happen to myself, but I often think, you know, if you've got a near day had experience, it most really put things in the perspective where you go here, I'm with the time and these things. I'm getting annoyed by these stupid things people are doing and you really sorry of realize what matters. Oh, one hundred percent. I actually I mean that. I think there was something. I'm not sure if it was in the article, but I or maybe it was in the podcast, that once it. I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't wish it upon and anyone, but man like I'm and I don't want to say I'm grateful for something bad that happened. I mean I give I guess I'm happy that I'm alive, but man like the shift in perspective that you get from something that you like. Damn, man like the be the biggest thing for me that I was that I keep saying. I was like, Holy Shit, life is so short and like, not in a scary way, like I mean in a way like men. I thought I could do this tomorrow, but I can't because tomorrow is not guarantee. And I really I can't remember where exactly I got this. Yeah, where exactly I got this, but this kind of goes on that court of Marcus realist. But I remember I started for a bit I did this exercise of every morning I'd wake up, not everyone, it was probably like, you know, every two days or something like that, and wake up a flipper point right. The idea is if you get heads, you live, tails you die, right, because that's what it is like, you know, and most of us have been lucky enough and we've been just getting hats for such a long time and would be you know, and and that's that's a fact. Like I soa you know, and you know we talked about you know, people say, well, I've got not much to be grateful for. Well, you know, you wake up every morning, you can see you know. So there's that, like it's so incredible. And Connor, there was I had. I had a friend named Nicoll, such a beautiful person, right, and she was in la. I think she was res The Australian girl, and I think she was doing her something for acting career. They might have been a job. Such a beautiful person inside out and you know, and just suffer from sad I think it's called sudden adult that spent to sleep, didn't wake up and men like that. And she was seeing me, just me, maybe like few days from my birthday or something like that, and that like and I can't get that out of my head because I realized I was like like, you know, you don't have to be in a car accident. You don't have to be you know, you don't have to be at the gym and for have a fall or like get you struck in the head. You have to be in a plane. You could be going to sleep and die. So and not tied in with the whole feelings of anxiety. Really doesn't it that you know someone who lives, somebody related ninety years and somebody lives twenty one years, no matter whether that person has achieved some of the greatest things known to mankind or achieve nothing, we all kind of end up in the same way. So what is the point of spilling your on your...

...life with anxiety and worrying about things? That's a hundred percent right, and what we often do is we we need to all do a better job of filtering the conversations we have with our self, like we're so used to. You know, my brain is constantly going and he kind of don't take you know, and ordered of what you're saying to yourself. But as much as you could be negative about a situation and your gret doing this to this person x amount of time, like that same principle works if you're speaking positively. And the funny thing you notice straight away is like this is like kitty stuff like this is not going to work, but slowly but surely the more you do it, like you're doing your best today. You tried your best today. You may not have got all your work done, but you you set your ass down and you tried your best. That's better than what you did before. Keep going like that little bit of self talk, man, that goes along way, and that's one thing I've that's one thing I was taught and that's one thing that I'm implementing now, and, Jesus, makes a difference. And even that you're recognizing that you're making changes. You're going all hed this this thing I did was was good, or this thing I did really wasn't the way you want to live and you're sort of adapting because the making me. We're talking the other day about how Tim Ferrass I think and how he has ideas now. I talked to with things that completely disagree with things he said years ago, and the first thing you think is a high hypocritical, but you don't think the learning curve that you know that person's gone through to change your opinion and you're all with a value it and what you're doing and thinking, Oh, I could do this better. You know you can keep being a good person, hundred percent, and what doesn't and that's it. I mean you, you, I mean it's funny to talk about infers go. Well, that's not what you said. Yesterday. But it's also true, though, because if your opinion is not changing, that's what the problem. If you're thought process is not changing, I think that's what the problem is. And it's interesting because just so quickly touch on that. I just a quickly touch on that. I mean racism is a big one. You know. I was like, well, maybe I'm not racist because, you know, how can I be racist? I'm Brown, right, and then you quickly do like a quick self analysis. You're like, Oh, hold the fuck up. I'm like, race is a shit. You know those things I say and you know. And it's funny because I use so many jokes and you know that I ever so casual to me and those jokes are bad as it is. I mean there's one joke that I can't like seem to let go. Is the one about you know, I went once, went to Bondi beach and forgot to put sunscreen on. That, I tell Brown and lost all my privilege. Is Real life and I want to and it's right, that's right. It's a good laugh. Right, but but I thought about it. I was like, wait, hold on, when I say that in front of, let's say, if I say this to a person who's, you know, of white skin color. That's almost kind of racist to them and like being mean to them. So but you know, and then, but most people will say, well, that's you know, white racism doesn't exist. I was like, well, I mean, either way I'm you being I'm being a Dick. So you know, there's a lot of that, like the self analysis that has to happen, you know, just on that code. There's another quote that what's his name, a good old see job, said, which was you know, if you, if you live, live as you'd live every day as your last. One day you'll be more one day you will more certainly be right, which is which is you know, it's true. And when he talks about living your day every single day as you like you last day, you don't have to go sell your Carl like, you know, do all that stuff. I mean you can actually, you know, maturely. What would you like to do on your last day on earth? I would like to sell my God. But what you could do is you like, you know, if today was the last day. But I don't know if today's the last day, but couldn't good have another day? Like would I be satisfied with the things I've done, you know, but they could be another day. So I think it's interesting where to look at it. For sure, I think you would implement, you know, if you're able to sort of think, you know, this is my last day, what sort of things would you want to your day to make it while? I'm like, that's I think. Instead of thinking, you know, I'm spend all my money on, you know, poker and do all that sort of stuff, I wonder realistically, what sort of things would you do that would would justify good last day for me? I I'd want to communicate with the people closest to me in my life about how much I love them and how much I appreciate them, something that we can always do, you think. You know, I wonder how you can implement that every day, because it's kind of it's a novel sort thinking this could be my last day, but sometimes it is kind of hard to happen. He said that's something you could do, but it's quite often something we don't do. Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right. If if today today, if today was my last day, I try to live it as how as how I always think my perfect day has I've been trying to aim for that perfect day. Yeah, right,...

...that's how I would live it. Like, like, you know, I'd actually wake up early for fucking once, you know, I wake up early, get up early, need that was pretty good. Yeah, I've almost like up early, like nine o'clock. I think they're solid. That's all right. Like, you know, I would try to leave that perfect day that I, you know, so desire, which is like I would wake up early, I would go medt it, I would go to the gym, I would, you know, call my mom, I would call my friend and I would do some work that I been progressing it, or I would try to live the day, if I'd be satisfied by the end of the day that going you know what, today was a good day, and then say, you know, I think that's what I would do. But I like that they're quite often things that you do make the effort to do. You know, see it times like you are living your your days in a way that sort of lines up with with how you'd want to live. Yeah, but I want to keep pushing that to like, you know, obviously it's no never going to be, you know, perfect, because nothing is ever perfect. So maybe the you know, the next day could be better than the debrevious is like what you said is that. I think previously we talked about this being one person better than yesterday, or work one person harder. Yeah, yeah, totally. It was reading, I think, yesterday, and it was it was talking about the difference between being nice and being kind, and it was high. If you if you're going to be that situation became to someone is supposed to be a nice because when you're being nice, you just sort of pay and lip service to someone and saying things probably to make it seem that you're a nice person, were would being kind, doing things that actually benefit someone, and that sort of I'm trying to keep my head with relaship to other people. You know, jump out that superficial niceness. Just be a cane person, do what you can to to be a to be a to be a good person, really, hundred percent, hundred percent, boys. It's it's small, little incremental changes, right, and they often seem like the biggest things, but those are the ones that we need to do. You again, what was the first quote that you spoke about? It's the patients. The bitterness of patients makes the result so much sweeter. Like you needed. You need to get through those little things to and there's not. You're never going to have that perfect day or we never going to have that great day by doing one thing right. It's like a small you know, making sure I get up on time, making sure I ate well, doing a little bit exercise, speaking to a few people, get my work done. Like it's these little things that we can all do when and that's the beautiful thing about mental health and these sort of things being at the forefront of our mind is we're constantly thinking of ways to improve and what we always speak about is being a better, the best or a better version of our self. So I love that. That's kind of where society you know, there's probably of negatives that we can speak about in society. I think that's one positive. I think we've come through. So, Hey, it is what it is. Again, let's let's go to let's go to that little the kind of a monolog that's from the movie transporting Lackland. Do you want to read that out, since you've got the little bit for deeper voice and, you know, read it up with much emotions as you can? And then, Connor, I would like your first thought on it, because you knew about this. You had the longest of Bonder upon that monolog okay, yeah, the choose Alife, all right, ready, might, all right, choose a life, choose a job. Choose a career, choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Didn't know that was a thing. Choose DSY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching my numbing, Spirit crushing game shows, stuck in junk food, sticking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away in the ends of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawn to replace yourself. Choose your future, choose life. But why? What? I want to do a thing like that? Well, that that'll take in big waters. Might. That's like a bit of background for people are lesson and aren't really familiar with that. That's Aten a movie culture and spot and the movie by Gay Color of in Welsh to the script anyway, and he's real, real Scottish at he just depict this real, like brutal Dubrell life and these guys can movie are all addicted to heroin. And this quote, I think, is just it's just so vivid and whenever I heard it I was thinking, you know, these are the kind of the Monday and ways you spend most of your days and I think a lot of us sort of being towards get a career and you go all work at this career Tomine, hundred and twenty five and then I'll work toward getting this big TV. Once you get the big TV, a year later, even bigger TV. And it really made me think, you know, well, what's the point of just just working and doing these things that you know was in one thousand nine hundred and ninety four? Whenever that quote came out of and there...

...was a newer one came out with three years ago. Some parts of it he's like choose designer laundre and the being hope of kicking some life back into a dead relationship. He said, I choose an iphone made in China by a woman he jumped out of a window and stick it in the pocket of your jacket, fresh as size the Shian firetrap toose facebook, twitter, snapchat, instagram and a size and other ways to Buliard by lacross other people you've never met. She's looking up all flames, desperate to believe that you don't look as bad as they do. Choose live blog and for your first wank to your last breath. You know, it's just really, really hard drink. Why? I'll tell you that much. Really it's like I mean, pretty pretty crude, pretty pretty rash, but it's spot on. I think it's pretty be honest. The yeah, it's the fact that whole facebook, twitter, snap it, instagram and size and where the spuel your ball across people you've never met, and even people you haven't you even talked to people from school and ten years and you still caught up in what they've add breakfast or whatever. It's the first time I heard this actually, you know, gave me goosebumps and I was just thinking about it, because my biggest fear in life, and some I think someone asked me on since what's your biggest fear? I think, but and I think I break my biggest fear into two pieces. My biggest fear in life is to live a mundane life, that I'm not happy with and the second one is to die insignificant, right, which is the the kind of both going to twine is. It's so scary because that's what we do daily, like that's what that's what everyone is, because we live in so in junction with this whole like you know, with exactly the way that the new one is like, you know, you know, you go on Facebook, you go on twitter, right, you wake up and use schooling, you watching videos. Few days ago, and I chatted to chatted about this in the previous part, previous episode, I was waking up and this all it takes, like you just sweep into it, and I was waking up and just opening videos and just scrolling on videos. The good thing is facebook never stops with the videos. Just let you go on and ever, forever, forever. You know, my phone every so often will tell me, be like hey, you've been on your phone for four hours, and I'll be that shop and I keep going ahead, you know, all right, yeah, and and, and you know, I am lucky enough, like I said before, is to catch myself on those things because normally I'm not that much on my phone compared to other people, and I shouldn't compare with myself to other people, but you know, to myself. You know, I thought I was a lot of an. In fact, I told Corner Connor about it and said Hey, like, I'm on my phone, and he was the one. He Goes Hey, stopping on facebook and I deleted the FACEBOOK APP out of my phone and, like you know, it took me a few days to actually be like okay, well, I kept on reaching for the APP. Who You? It wasn't there. I was like, Oh really, yeah, yeah, so, you know, you made really makes you realize how you know, and then goes into like the soul crushing, soul crushing, my numbing game shows. You look at, you know, talking about the bachelor or the you know, the bachelor or the what's other one that everyone keeps on watching, this love island, all these those really, like who the why the fuck? Like the Cardashians, like, I mean, who the fuck are watching this shit? Like, you know, why are you doing this, to doing that to yourself? Like, I mean, there's no intelligence in it, like there's no right, you know, there's no real there's no purpose in it. Are you just watching it because everyone's watching it? And like, you know, and so much and this is interesting as well, like choose a career to the job right. Like the biggest thing is so many people. There's two ways. People go. Well, they go hey, like this is what I have to do, like I gotta get a job. Like can people get a job and they work nine, twenty five and that's it. They go home. You know, it's it's it's easy to do so because you wait up at seven o'clock or six o'clock, right, you get to work by nine o'clock, you finished job at you get home at seven o'clock. What else are you going to do? That's your day gone. And then that's when you wait for the weekend. Once you get to the weekend, you know you can't wait to go out for a beers at that at best, if not, you know most of the time you'll be like, well, I'm not just going to sit here watch TV, because you know, I don't have any friends, because it's not like you called anyone because you were too busy just being in that work zone. And that's your life. And that's why, on the weekend you just watch those nine not mine numbing shows and go hey, this week and I'm going to go to cost go and pick up any washing machine. That's life like. That's what people are still living like. And, you know, like, I don't want to be that person, never because, you know, I would rather, like, you know, I would rather live a life where, you know, we're even if suffering becomes a little bit higher, like we know, made things are like, you know, not as easy, but at least I'm doing something new. I'm living, like trying to live them, trying to make sense of like trying to have fine meaning. But that's just a rat, like the mean, the rack race is the that's the best way to put it. Like it's so too. And then just have kids, only to have them do the same thing, you know, go through school, not paying attention to your kids. And that's why I mean from it what seems from what it seems like, I mean our parents, and like we all seem we all come from Ho household where our parents give us sufficient attention, but at the same time, like, you know,...

...how long did our parents do this of like jobs and whatnot him? How long is this cycle going to continue? Is that life? You know? Ye, ahred. Someone describe that those type of TV shows as McDonald for your for your brain. A few days you know, I thought that was perfect because sometimes too fast food and in the ways you can't get a good meal and the same thing the TV. Sometimes you just want to people just want to watch trash to fill out a void or a spears of time. You know you want you are killing hour, you stick on one of those TV shows. I guess that hid the Kadashians and those sort of people get to get feelish. Yeah, we all know how the origin story, the Great Gimbo Kadashian, but we don't have to tread in those waters to today. But, and I completely greet agree with that point and I guess I was only, you know, informed of a new way. It's actually really interesting. Like I see my partner Charlotte and her mom carry they watch all the shows. They love it, they had the time setting all that sort of thing. They're really smart people. So you know, I can't, I can't sit through it for thirty seconds because I just pull my hair and go a couplete. People Watch this, but they're sitting up their laugh and at it gone. This is so fake, this is not there's no reality to this. This is all nonsense. So they've got a really good attitude about it. And you know there's people that work really high stress jobs and sometimes they just need a little bit of brain sugar just to kind of online. So there's certainly plenty of people like that. But you know that they're you know, I'm sure I can almost guarantee you a large percentage of the people that not just watch the show but follow them on social media like that. They're just trying to yeah, that's just trying to fill a void of some sort and it's like the kind of the ideal, the ideal person. And if you really listen to an interview from any of those people, like their paper thin on most things except makeup, or I'm stereotyping here, except one or two little things. They're just like us, except they have this platform and they really don't have anything better to offer. But you know, we just live in a society now that you're able to make business and money off that. So, like it's it's very strange, isn't it? One of the I don't know which the youngest one of those Kadashian, I think with the younger Lee met, we should the youngest millionaire, the youngest, yeah, something, youngest she might. I think she made like off her makeup or something like that. Right, Kend or Kylie, one of those? Yeah, Kylie's the youngest. That's insane. I mean, I guess there's some credit to be given for that, regardless to what like a the person, the mom, the mum there's she's a savage like the way she built their careers up, like for the first ten years of their I guess, and I to be honest, like you know, I kind of I was particularly in isolation. My Mrs went back from the starter connations, and I saw it easdrop on a few episodes, had a bit of a laugh and that sort of thing. And for the first ten years of their business it was just about appearances. So their mum would set them up at nightclubs, they'd go to shopping centers, they do all that, and then that was their business kind of off. That is just being a celebrity. And then now they've gone into the actual TV show, is their biggest business. So you can see the production of the TV show get a lot higher and it went from being a little bit of a kind of a medium by UNCH, it showed, to a massive budget show. So to her credit she has undoubtedly done like turn something into something incredible just for me, obviously, not just a way it started, but the continuous theme of over sexualization of her daughters and kind of the generation that follow from there. Now that I have a daughter, kind of concerns me in the fact that that has on society. That's something I'm starting to worry about. So, overall, I don't like what's happened. But you know, to her credit, she's an entrepreneur. At the end of the day, she's figured out a way to make a money. And if that's how you want to live your life or better luck to you. I I mean look, yeah, it's most of the society that that's what they're romanticize. It's the way to look at it, like, you know, that's it's not if they just saw no opportunity. They're like, well, we're going to do that exactly. That's exactly in the that's exactly right. Like her mum set her up like massively hug the you know, the kind of OPAUTITY. And then, on top of that, let's like, let's not forget, like, you know, the TV's only they're like for people to watch what their real businesses are like, selling makeup and all that kind of stuff. So you know, I mean they're not in the game to only just enterjain people. They're there for money, you know. So that's important to remember. Obviously, we had caitlyn Jen I'man for twelve months. That was the biggest news story in the world that that came out of that show like that, that that kind of evolved in that show and going back and seeing her development as a person like this is a little bit of a different topic, but you could see her evolve from this, you know, Olympic athlete to a woman like you saw, it happened and just like you know, she I mean that was a big for twelve months. When was that? I don't know, it was a few years ago, but that was everywhere like that was she won warm of the year. Like we're just going dead craziness now. But yeah, that's significant. To their credit that you know that there they are, where they are because they've put themselves in that situation. So Hey, baby, it is what it is. It's funny just you guys talking about that.

From the point I've I've started out thinking the Kardashians are just like very basic people. From what you just say, I'm through of thinking. Maybe, maybe a mess and I don't know, a lot of no, definitely not. What my don't do it. Yeah, just there's no interesting, extremely superficial. There's, you know, there's little parts. It's not on accident, like that's what I'll give him credit for. It wasn't an accident how it initially started. That's, you know, kind of the worst way to go about things. But it was a very deliberate and it's not just a mum like that. You know that they're at the end of the day, they're they're making so much money for so many different organizations. So they have some of the best business people, the best market is in the world behind them. So it's not just a mum's the brilliant like that. There a machine now. So yeah, but it's also interesting because it's a part of society that you know exists and it's kind of interesting to get that perspective a little bit about a society that we're not proud of. The most really clearly enough people in the world that there's a market for that. It's it's scary. You know you but you, yeah, you think a certain way and you think, oh, there can be, you know, many people that would would watch this and you realize past me, a huge proportion of the world really actually find that interest in the million. I actually earlier this year, earlier this year when the whole covid nineteen things started, and like the for the first time, because I've been running around saying hey, I want to change the world because I care about people. And earlier this year I learned something that actually hit me so heavy. I was really sad about this and what I realize. I was like how stupid people are. And when the whole thing happened with the people buying toilet paper right, and I was like, man, that could be that could be my neighbor, that could be one of my friends, like I don't know, like some people they like. I was like, Holy Shit, society so stupid. You saying you man on social media. Sorry to cut you off. You see, in the way that people that you knew, knew closely, the way that they've reacted makes you like if she hit the fan, like some of those your questioning now like the yeah, I've had to do that too, some people that I know very well. It's like right, what's going on? That made me think. I was like, man, Holy Show I was wrong about people. People are in people are going through this, and not because sometimes they just like that's what they want to do, because they're fucking stupid, like why would you need? Like the whole toilet paper thing was a huge because I was like wait, hold on, when it hold on a minute, that could be my colleague, that could be the person I know, that could be that person you know. So that was really scary for me. I was like, Houpe Sidda is so stupid. When you think, you know, initially you think, Oh, that stupidity, and then the more you think about it, it's comes from place of spear. Like a lot of those people were buying toilet paper because are they're so everyone else within it. And then be they were thinking, well, if someone else buys all the toilet paper I love, I won't get any. Yeah, yeah, you've got like fear and greed plan off against each other. That's exactly right. And then, I'm sure, I'm sure there's something try of it in the media, portray on the media. Then you've got that resist aspect. Were the same, where as there was with the beauty formula in Australia, that their person is a Janda that people are send it back to China and I guess a whole lot of things that are a player that make people acting where's where they seem stupid than possibly they are. Yeah, now that's like, I think, a little bit of understanding of how it works and knowing that, hey, if I give it some time, like I if I give us some time, the stuffs are going to be shocked. I'm going to be able to have the option to buy it again. But you know, if everyone just bought what they needed, it wouldn't have gone out of stock. Because you see what's happening now. Everyone's buying what they need and there find it's the ten percent of people that just hoarded like motherfuckers that ruined it for everyone else. And it seems that that ten percent that we speak about in social media, in society, that seems to be growing a little bit more so I think. I think it's more than two. Maybe. Yeah, I think it's more so around that like, you know, forty percent, and then you've got for then you've got the people who like sit between the two as well. So yeah, yeah, I always should go to show if something happened that we were in like a end of the world type scenario. How many people would be looking out for each other and how many people would just be like an after themselves? It's, yeah, very well, SCILLE experiment. That kind of shows you that a lot of people are just thinking about one person. Yep, Yep, it was. It's like a the put yeah, it's the perfect social experiment because it happened. You know, everyone's everyone's affected by it in some way. And Yeah, you know, yeah, that's exactly where we can go, deep down that rabbit hole, for sure. But, and I honestly do think it's in it's like the level of intelligence, which actually kind of brings me nicely to the next court, which is by actually Stephen Hawkins. Right. Intelligence is ability to adapt to change, right, which is which is brilliant, because right there touches on that as well, because you're talking about you talking about our whole society that just took things at face value, whether...

...they was fear. But what I mean like how often, like, let's say's toilet people. Nothing is not related to life, right, you know, tad people is just like wipe wiping you ass, like, I mean, you could fucking jump in the shower or you can know, wipe yours. We wipe the way, the way the future. I think, what is this? Baby wipes the way of the future. Man Use a blanket, I don't know like that, or power right round the most under estimated good the day as well, might I'll tell you that much good day. You never go right. So I mean, obviously that was a chit. Like you could be like Hey, well, you know, I could just start jumping in the shower. But yeah, it's insane that people poured onto that. It's a nuts I was things I was thinking when that was happening. I was thinking I should I be trying to get some pile of trying to roll, and then I was thinking I could worsk here scenario. Yeah, the shower. You Go. You've ever been traveling to your tail and or or Vietnam? Some of those countries quite common. The picture a a hose or something. You can't flush toilet pere. But we just have become so used to doing things the one where we did we quite often don't realize there's a hundred ways you can skin a cat. Yep, yeah, there's there's a famous Thai fighter. He's an Australian Tai Fight. His name is John Wayne Par and he spent the younger years of his life in my art, sorry, training in M Tai, in Thailand, obviously, and he said like, you know, we were living on scraps over there, like our you know, to wash yourself, you had to he said he came up with a trick where you used to roll the you know, you'd be washing your hair and you roll the you roll the water down the back of your back. It slide on your back and it goes down the crack there, because that's what you had to do. We only had like a bucket to share between us. So you figure these things out, and that's a very, you know, extreme example. But people just weren't able to realize like at the end of the day, like if we run out of toilet paper, then you know there's a free market out there. Things are going to get figured out. But like that's not the worst thing ever. And then so many people to turn it around, so many people were like, Oh, what's happening? Toilet papers gone as like bro The old garden has just whip it through the back fence, frold in the road in the delight. We figure it out, man like. It's not the end of the world, but you think I'm that you are a positive. Positive of that is that you start to maybe ration how much time to be e for youth, for example, thinking the rule could have to last me two weeks. I'll maybe cut cut down on on how many you know fit to get for you. Basically, yet some positive out. What brings it out? Yeah, that's right, I'll be as they say, mate, Shit happens, so it is what it is. Then, did you boys have anything more that you wanted to add off? What with the document there, because I'd be happy to go into the twenty one rules of life if you wanted to do that. Or did you guys want want to grab anything else from there? Let's let's do the three one rules. Yeah, thats wait. So I'll give I'll give the guys a little bit of an introduction in the people listening. So the twenty one rules of life was a book written by me and Moto Musashi, me and Moto Mussache. She lived from one thousand five hundred and eighty four to six and forty five, so it's obviously wisdom from a long time ago. He was a Japanese Sword Master during the Samurai Age. He won over more than sixty jewels and sort of the first well World Renowned Samurai warriors who their their life superseded the Japanese culture and you know, far extended that and he wrote a book called the five rings, one of the highes selling books of all time. Plenty of people have heard about it and super famous in Japanese culture, of course. And in that book he talks about the twenty one rules of life. I was listening to a podcast today and most they're all really good rules. Some I agreed with, some I disagreed with and some I thought were really good, but not all of them I kind of had an opinion on. A lot of these are kind of just. They are what they are, like a kind of just is what it is. But if you boys sort of hear one of the rules and it's resonates and something click straight away, let me know. But I think if we try to break down every single one it'll just take too long and a lot of them are kind of self explanatory anyway. So just give me a thumbs up or something like that and if something POPs up. There are a few really good ones. So we'll start with the first one here, except everything just the way it is. That sounds like. It is what it is. That's why today. Yeah, Bro, yeah, Gollen Lifel, make that good God. Yeah, so that's the first one. Their number to do not seek pleasure for its own sake. I thought that was a really good one. Just just quickly on that kind of I know you've been reading a lot of Greek philosophy. Do you have anything to add? To accept everything just the way it is. Yeah, that's kind of I thought it came out of a lot of the Greek and Roman philosophy, and I suppose this is eastern philosophy. Isn't like but it happens. By...

...that happens, trust me. An idea. Any brands could so much going on. He's what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, I think definitely accept that. Things happen and you can make choices and you may have a good or bad it come, but you do have to accept things as they are. You may something really you know, you might break up with your partner, they might you know, they might cheat on you, maybe your highsts will go on fire and you you have to just accept that. Really, that's what it is and you can either make a decision to deal with that or you can you can be miserable. But yeah, that's that's perfect and I think that that's probably pretty rich and a lot of philosophies, that whole concept of, you know, accepting things that they are, particularly things that are out of our control. You know, it's as the old edergies like, if you have if you have the ability to change it, do so. If not, let it go, because you can't do nothing. So I think that one. Yeah, and I think some people would hear that and go, oh well, except everything the way it is means that you don't try hard or that you don't you don't try and Control Aniston instead of interpreted as there are some things that just you can't control and you do have the exempt yeah, yeah, that's right. And even the Bible is, what one of the oldest books ever written in there so much in there that people try to just take for face value and some of the best books and the best literature ever written like it. It's forcing you to delve deeper and to actually take your percept, your perception of a little bit that's actually good, that's actually going to relate to your own life and all these statements, all these rules, aren't just matter of fact, like you can interpret like some of them are like they shall not kill, like there's no dicking around there, but for the most part, like it's like how can I apply this? You know, I how can apply this to my life, that sort of thing. So now that's brilliant. You're old. That make it. You do have to make it relevant to your own scenario. I got this was like two those years ago. You're going to have to take a bit of pinch of ste with some of these things, and I really that to what you didn't know? That's right, that's right. We do have the Internet nowadays. Letters and do them in just in case we didn't know. Now. So the second one, and I really like this one, I'll maybe touch on at first. It's do not seek pleasure for its own sake. And what happened? The what I thought of immediately once I heard that do not seek pleasure for its own sake is particularly as you're young and you're experiencing new things for the first time, legal drinking, age, that sort of thing, like you've learned to just all these new things come at once and you actually don't think of what the consequences are of just being openly, like constantly looking for pleasure and looking for these sort of things, and that's something I've had to do with my own life and realize that this thing makes me feel good right now. But you know, what is the actual what's the actual meaning to it, and is this kind of is this going to have an effect on the way I see myself or anything else? So I think, I think it's in the society we live in now, it's so easy to just plays place like what do we want? What do we want now? So, yeah, that's a really good one. Yeah, definitely, more than ever, pleasure is like just that thing that will dope mean spects. People have access to probably a pretty good disposable income. Most people, you can afford to go and drink or you know things I've online. Porn is a massive thing as well in terms of massive problems, and generations before us have never seen you really yet I think people not have to excize a lot more self control than the previously because it's much easier to get this, this pleasure than than before. Yes, right, yeah, the hard the DV, the VV we you around for the VH stays model. Is that predating all of us? Oh, I was definitely be a jeff a bit. I remember the first time I got caught with a magazine when I was living good times. That'll be a story for another day, or different, I might. My dumb ass made the reason we got caught. I'm going to go into it. We got caught because he was reading it in his bed, in his room at his house. He fell asleep with it on his lap. He's dad walks into his room to wish him good night and sees the magazine. What an absolute Jack. I still haven't forgiven you for that. And so, yeah, yeah, as I'll say that I be'd like to do what I say, not what I do. All right, so number three. I really like this one too. I might let you touch on this one first and make but this one I really liked. There was do not under any circumstances depend on a partial feeling. Does that? Does that resonate at all? Yeah, I mean there's a huge aspect of the often I like the idea of gut feeling like that. Yeah, just if you feel something, but if you actually never sure about something, that's when you shouldn't probably act on that. Gut Feeling, I think, because sometimes you like I I sort of...

...you like that's something that I should do or something excellent, you know. So I think that kind of feeling never like unless if you got these really telling you, because you'd know, because you'd want to, you'd be driven to do it. You know, I don't think you should go against your gut. But sometimes if the feeling is like Oh, maybe the test is are the something, most of it done, you know what's the right thing to do, but you might actually go hey, like maybe, but I feel like this could be you know, you know, you always know hundred percent. Yeah, you know, and often this goes with people as well. There's people that we've had in our lives. We go hey, we've always known that person is probably not the right like a right person for us, but we like, Oh, like I've said, the kind of like that person, so I kind of like having them around. Kind of situation. So yeah, hundred percent. I think the key part of that is the partial feeling, like, you know, we could be stressed out, could be driving at a car soon cuts us off. We go fuck, I wish I could kick that guy's you know. And if we act and on those sort of things, those sort of emotions, like a passing thought, or we see, you know, we see an attractive person all you you're at a party and someone's, you know, someone's doing some extra creeky activities and you go, should I really be doing this? Should I not? The partial feeling of that is is so important because we we often get times, you know, our thoughts become our actions and our motions. We get so caught up sometimes of what we're thinking instead of just letting it go or what we're feeling, and I think that's it just good way to really analyze these thoughts. and is it a gut feeling? If it's a gut feeling, then it's not going to be partial, because it's going to be whole, it's going to be in you. If it's partial, then it's probably just a it's going to pass in the wind, just like, you know, just like anything. Love it number for think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world. That's a good one. One hundredercent, one hundred percent agreek. That's so brilliant, Ye Dick, I think. I think so many people dig themselves so serious, Yep, like you know, like that's because it's what I was going to say. Don't take yourself too seriously. Don't people get so bothered by things and like, so annoyed and so hurt by the things, like who gives the fuck? You know, you're like your m you merely are, merely I you can, you know, like a dot in this infinite size of the galaxy, of the word, or should a galaxy is not really like, you know, the universe, like he's huge. You are like such a small part. So, but it got so don't take yourself serious, however. Think you know, Dick. That's that. But Alan Watts is a great quote where he says man suffers only because he kicks. Seriously, what the God's bed for fun, which take that quite a lot. You know. Yeah, that's it, hundred percent, hundred percent. It's so easy to get caught up in your daily existence that you yeah, you can't see past that, your next door neighbor's household, past the fence, and I think, hopefully that's one thing we've that's about. Why? Why waste your time getting angry because your neighbors dogs shit, you know, chalk the shit in your front yard or like this shit, like I mean Shit happens little. That's right. Everything is everything just the way it is. Yeah, it tends to get to this part of the podcast whether we will start to fall off. So, you know, there's everything we say. Just that don't take it too close to the heart. Now, that's pretty that's pretty all right. Yet number five, be detached from desire your whole life long. Obviously a practice not practically, you know, applicable, because desires always going to come in. But make I guess what that's trying to say is make your desire not Europe. have go deeper than what you're desiring. Actually analyze the situation a little bit more. Be detached from desire your whole life long. Yeah, I think that one I sort of like student trying to get my head round it. For sure, it's a little bit a little bit touch and go. It's very much situational as well, obviously as well. Like that's quite you know, instead of appreciate and what you have, it's kind of to have more. Is what create a lot of our problems in you know, quite often you want more money or you want, yeah, a bigger highs or you want more prestige in your career, and that's where I feel that how contact the desire is that you know, you don't spend your whole life to get more, depreciate what you have, and that's what I see. That whole attachment from bizarre bee and hundred percent that was really well done. I couldn't couldn't quite latch onto that one and I think you broak it done so over for that reason really well. Number six, do not regret what you have done. I think we were speaking about that before. Do not regret what you've done. How long do we hold onto resentment for before we let it go? How long do we hold on to our mistakes before we let it go? Do not regret what you have done. Obviously you know where humans are we going to and if you didn't regret, you probably the A sociopath. But don't let that regret can shume your life and not let you forgive yourself or learn from the lesson. On. Move On. I think that one was really good. Yeah, number seven, never be jealous. That's jealousy is spoken about in pretty much any belief system in the world because it's...

...such has such an impact on the human psyche. Jealousy of situations, of things. Never be jealous. I think that's one thing we can all get better at, just just in human nature in general. Yeah, I think I know, but you guys been Australians. But Jealousy, it was he's. Yeah, a horrendous thing in the UK, and definitely island, is when someone, someone you know, sort again some sort of success from something. Yeah, there's this real attitude of people putting them down as if as if they're doing something wrong, and that's like a real jealous, sort of jealous thing and it's horrendous. But if you just you grew up with that, with that way, I think, and then it takes a lot to go oh, you know, well done, you starting a business, good luck with it's important people. That's so true. It's we have a phrase over here called Tall Poppy Syndrome and it's essentially the same thing. It's where you look at someone else in a better situation or something else and you, for whatever reason, you bring it down, and particularly if men. I see that in so many social settings and it goes it's always hidden behind humor, like many things are, but it actually goes deeper. It's it really comes from a place of jealousy. It comes from a place of Lust, because you're your initial reaction to someone telling you good news is to bring him down a peg. And obviously everyone needs to be humbled at certain periods. But I think I've seen plenty of that happened to so I'm sure that's yeah, obviously over there, but that's certainly I've seen hips that too. So that's a really good point. It's also huge Eastern culture as well. Like Pakistani Indian gold goes huge people. Yet people would do anything. That people, I mean what's popular in the in these two clues is the is the backhander, compliments the yeah, you know, that's enough. That's a nice car. You know what you know? What did you did? You sell your soul to get this or something? Always the back yeah, they old sell in as all away. That's a deep waters there mon number eight. Never let yourself be sad and by a separation. Again, I think this one is very has to be fundamentally applied in various aspects of your life. But I guess, how many people do you know that have gone through a break up, will have gone for a loss or a separation, and they not able to let that go. Never let yourself be sadden by a separation. I think that's what that's what that's trying to say for sure, and I think if it's gone connor now very if ever. I was just going to say that's that's super true, because I always thought about this and as like be happy that something like that happen in your life. You know, you met someone beautiful and then you spent time with them and whether the fact that it's and you know, I think so many relationships and in bad notes is because people often try to you know, one of the one. Most of the time either one person is still in love the other person is just over them. That's what happened. I think you just, if you're collectively, go hey, it's beautiful thing, this happened, but, you know, I guess time to move on. I think that's important to people, like if you love yourself enough, you won't be saddened by that separation. That I think this is a really difficult one to to really really work with. Like, I just come out of a relationship really recently and this is sort of thought I've been sort of stewing on. It's it's so like like quite often, like a lot of these things, they're very easy to think about unless year in the situation and you know, circumstans of depend depend on on what serve, example, your time of a relationship, depend on how that relationship has has ended. It can be very, very difficult to view that as just, you know, appeared in your life and look at what you've learned from him. Yeah, I think I do agree on one. But again, what one that's very particular and very in some gears, is very difficult, especially, you know, your time of death of people, God forbid, like when you're close family parents die. That's that's something you'll only experience, wanted, twice in your in your life. And how can you, how can you prepare yourself or something of that magnitude? Yep, that's right, and you need to experience the pain in order to move on from it. Let's when people push it away and pretend, you know, try to push it back, that's when it gets worse. So that's so true, and it's obviously important to remember that this came from, you know, the sixteen hundreds in Japan, and it was used to teach samuraies to be the best warries they were possible. So if you know, in that setting, if your mate who standing next to you gets killed. That's obviously very sad, but do not be sad by because we still got a mission to do, we still got to move on here. So that's obviously good to understand what that saying there too. But one thing that I always heard, particularly growing up, is like I'm so good to give being relationship advice, but I I'm not in a relationship or that sort of thing. Is because advice without emotion is one thing. Advice that stands with stands the test of emotionss and feelings and how you know, how you're experiencing is totally different. Right, like it's it is just a different MP of fish. HMM,...

...okay, number nine. Ye, sorryber, all good. No, I was I was just going to say I actually I mean, on second thought, I do agree with lock, do agree with Connor, because, you know, on my I just thought about that as well for a second. I was like it's a lot easier than said, easier said than done, for sure. Yeah, I guess, like a lot of these things, they're all amusing things to leave your life by and some, but sometimes the practice of some of them is a lot more difficult. But I guess that's the point of it isn't that. You know, you're not, like, you don't meant to be easy. Other ways everyone would be yester. Yeah, yeah, sorry, that's what that's what bloody old boy used to say. If this shoot was easy, everybody would be doing it. Who was that? Roddy con was that? Yeah, it's easy, you know it was there. Ronny gone was like yeah, everybody want to be a body build and nobody want to lift those heavy yes, wait, yeah, that was it. The boy I had a voice. Might Tossin Robert Ronning Coleman had the same voice. Coach, I think so, you're very true. Number nine boys, resentment and complaint are appropriate, neither for oneself or others. And I heard that at first I'm thinking, what are they trying to say? But if you really look at it, resentment and complaint are appropriate. Neither. So, neither for oneself or over. This resentment and complaint that nothing positive comes from those two things, like they only lead to negative outcomes. Yeah, kind of judges on the number four as well, like think lightly of the world, like mean, yeah, so no, come stop complaining. I guess like that kind of makes sense. It's sort of explains itself, or really, I mean, Yep, yeah, that's right. I love pople to show that. I'm sure you, both of you can think of someone in your head that you know that it always complain, and I think any walk of life have been in there's always been someone that all it is complain and you think you know, we give a shut up, like this is not doing anyone any good. So difficult to bruce that subject with someone who's in that in our HEADSPI. Yeah, yeah, so try and it becomes are, becomes a way you're thinking, like they won't even do without realizing the first thing, how you going today might all my this, this and that happened, and it's like yeah, yeah, totally. Number ten, do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of Lust or love. Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of Lust or love. I agree in the sense that oftentimes what we should be doing, what we should be saying can be we can be blinded by love and lust and those sort of things that come in play. But also love is, for me, the most power for emotion in the world, so it's kind of like that one's a little a bit tricky. I through it's sort of ties in a bit with that detachment from desire, I think as well. And Yeah, not sick pleasure for its own sick. Three of those kind of have some sort of elements to tie into each other. Yep, that's right. That's right. Number eleven right front the world's a bit funny because, I mean, obviously love is something you want to keep in your life. It's I guess it it started doing. Let yourself be yet by loss. That would be that would be quite easy to understand. Yeah, hundred percent, hundred percent. Yeah, love is the yeah, loves that. Loves. It is definitely the tricky part of that one. Number Eleven. In all things, have no preferences. Physically, that's true. Impossible sometimes, but I think what that's trying to say, maybe you can elaborate more, is don't let the preference influence your decision. Of like to make a right decision. Maybe, yeah, because sometimes you're so sold on things that may not even be good for you, but you just sold on the sold on them for the sake of being sold on them, because that's what you just wanted. Let's say, if you about to buy a TV, you know, and you just go hey, I want that TV because I know you seen a youtube video on it and you go to buy and that's the one you go buy and You des You know you have an opportunity to get a better TV for a cheaper price. In this is example ARY like, for example, that I can use. So many people go hey, well, but that Youtuber has its. I'm going to go this with this one TV, this tea. Yeah, you know, it's a team of quote, don't put a eggone basket. As well. It's sort of, I guess, being being open to different possibilities and, you know, being happy with sometimes what you get, as opposed to not get in that one thing that you really prefer. Yeah, that can often blot be blinding and you can often minimize like a good feeling or a great experience because you think all that was good, but I wish this had have happened. Right. It's like no, that doesn't matter, it didn't happen, like yeah, yeah, well said, well said. This next one is probably the one that I disagreed totally within. It was be indifferent to where you live and in different basically means to not care, to not have any feeling towards it,...

...be indifferent to where you live. HMM, yeah, that's that one is interesting. I mean I can get the aspect of the fact that you can't, but by being at different places, if you because often you people can get really attached to the places live. I mean never go anywhere. I think that probably sure on side, sure, but I do see liking where you live is probably important as well. Most definitely are pride and understanding. Absolutely thirteen. Do not pursue the taste of good food. Now that's complete bullshit, like from a from an internest sense of thought. Absolutely like that. That math is that? That dirty old tick. Actually, I'll tell you what I would quick side note. There's a beautiful burger shop up here and coss harbor called Carnie and els. Shout out to Kannie and els. They have a burger called the widow maker. Listen to this. Three pieces beef patty, three pieces of cheese, three rashes of Bacon, three Hash browns. What do you think of that? Might I think I been? Yeah, that piece. I'd be this stab. Be The shout out to Kandie knowls. We're going to give it a go on Monday. So if I don't come back, you know what happened there. But now I think, I think in we all have different relationships with food and what food can provide for our lives. But to be honest, there's not, you know, and there's everything in moderation, for sure, but there's no there's not a lot better than having a good meal at a Nice restaurant with good people, right like yeah, I think from sort of the way some philosphic Taca with that like Sanca, talk to boy be content with the scantiest offer. And I've heard something before where they they'll go maybe a month each year where they live off their rice and black beans to just be just to be aware of what it would be like if they had to live in, you know, the most basic accommodiation, in one or two sets of clothes and live with the most basic rations possible. I don't like I don't think I could, you know, live that way, but I like that idea of having your mind in the place that you could. You're aware of what the worst gear scenario could be. You might, yeah, you lose your job in your ear, run some sort of real reduced income. Yep, and you need to minimalize that. You can't go out to eat five days a week like you normally were, that sort of thing. Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of connor I being on this diet basically, when we basically eat the same three meals for six weeks with little variety. And I mean you can cook chicken and beef and eggs like when different ways, but you kind of realize how good the food taste after a while when you're not eating much of it. Yeah, you know, you're not putting a whole bunch of other things until you're actually eating for purely what it is. Right, like it's a yeah, and the feeling it gets like that's assess your mood after your food. Assess the way you feel after you wait, and that'll guide you often to like maybe I shouldn't be eating this food. that. Assess your mood after your food. That that that's going down in the books. Number twenty two, that's yeah, that's probably then. Or thirty point five, all right, number fourteen, this is probably. Yeah. This might be one of my favorite ones. Do not hold onto possessions you no longer need. One hundred percent. Second minimalism is it's probably yeah, it's the best way to, because it what doesn't serve you. Get rid of it. And it's so easy for objects and different things to have such a, you know, an effect on your life that it you know, it's like, well, maybe something charity, for example, maybe someone else could use this and I don't need it anymore. But so many people we know, probably me included, that hold a little bit more than they should and all that sort of thing. So do not hold onto possessions you no longer need. Don't be tied to those physical things that don't provide you a service or anything anymore. Yeah, it's just it. Also, I mean you digs up actual speace as well as meant. Yes, these, that's right. Yeah, that's so true. Number fifteen. Do not act following customary beliefs. That one of mine. Actually have to look into to figure out exactly what that saying. Do not act following customary beliefs. What would be a customary belief? Like tradition, and some cultures they have they do things based on on customs. You know so, and I think in ask for a possibly there was a whole thing were female gabble mutilation. That like a ritual in some tribes. So people were following that as a customary belief. Instead of thinking about people, I'm thinking about the trauma that causing people. So from what I think from that is that's what that's what it means is is don't be doing things just based on that's the customer, the culture of the way it's always been.

Yep, yeah, and think of how you're affecting people and what's the best there right, and there's particularly throughout history and you know, of fair while ago in most places, like the way women were treated in the parison to men. That's probably a big one too. Is like the you know, lower level of not a quality in that sense. Yeah, that one actually starts to make sense now that's well put. Things might number sixteen. Do not collect weapons or practice with weapons beyond what is useful. So, yeah, so you probably don't need a bazooka defend your house. A pistol will be pistol survis. But now, I guess, and that's so practical, to the Samurai life. But don't you know, don't just have this thing. Don't just have this thing, because look what I have, like have a practical element of it. Don't just go beyond because, yeah, let's say if you have a car, you mean your kindnesses over the purpose of, you know, driving your work, just like what we're talking about before. If you have a psfive, you don't really need the psfive that has called or yet. Yeah, that's a great point. That's a great unless you've got, you know, stupid disposed will income, like many people. It's so you're doing like now. I mean it. Why isn't your income going somewhere? Elity? You know? Yeah, that's right, and it's not. At the end of the day, it's only providing a short little emotional thing. It's not actually giving you any benefits. So, yeah, that's a really good point. Number Seventeen, this is probably a big one. You know, the leading cause of most people, you know, internal anxiety is do not fear death. It's coming for us. We're all going to die. I don't fear it's going to happen. Try to maximize our life for what we have. Now. That's what I take out of that one. The best move to look at is we're all dying one minute of a time. I think this is the most difficult concept to get your head around. You know, do our fear death, because I think I don't know about you guys, but I don't think that I fear there. But then when you think about it, you think about all the things you don't do and then you sort of look into your reasons. I don't I don't say the certain thing because, you know, I'm afraid of hurting someone's feelings. And then you hear people talk about when you would deeper into these things. It all comes back to a fear of death. That's I think. I don't think people feared death. People fear dying without living. Yeah, and it's also the it's also fear. It's the fear itself, not so much actually dying. It's the actual fear experience. Like most people you talk to, if they talk about the most traumatic experiences in their life, like a lot of people going to say when I nearly died, I had this car crash or I nearly drowned or something like that. So, yeah, it's probably it's the fear associated with the death right. Is that that emotion? It's not so much, you know, we're all. We're all. Even the dumbest of people know they're going to die. Like no one short, you know, no one realizes that. You know, maybe they do I don't know, maybe I'm like an ever selling people, but yeah, I think that's a really good point. I don't know, I don't think people do the but, you know, to an elaborated people, yeah, gone now you gone. Well, I'm thinking. I'm so thinking in terms of like see even, see even money for a really dare, for example, and I'm guilty of this because, well, you say you need to see even to keep yourself a float. But again, that's another thing. That's like not living in the moment as well, because you sort of seaving for retirement, and that's this thing I bought was quite often is. Yeah, you think you should be living in the moment, more taken, more chance before risks. And I how do you find that balance between living in the moment, Profer of the future and up here and death? Yeah, I think if you actually follow like a if you follow a mixture of principles, that's when you actually were works. I mean just like that's what it says before, like you know, don't hold them, the possessions you don't need, because if you don't do that, even if you like, so, that's what you have to do. I guess you character, doesn't you know? You leave, your living in the moment becomes different from being a person who, while living in the moment, is like I need to go buy a new PSFOUR with, you know, gold on it, like I guess. I mean you need to do maybe that's not living in the moment. Living in the moment is perhaps other things. You know, it's German grand my keys. Yes, that's your keys. Ground it for today. That if it of gold taste five, and I know it really yeah, I'm sure Nick's talked about what. We used to do a radio show back and CD and we had a segment called grand my years and we're just ran about something stupid. That was one of those that. Yeah, shared that to the sounds of summer, right. Yeah, well, the old signs we used have a we s have a sound effect that is to go. But you know, it's that time. See, but also I'm sick. I'm just gonna do this. You should play that after everything. One of these rules I love. It should really dirty boys are a number eighteen. Do not seek to possess either goods or thieves. For your old age, and thieves is spelt fiefs and fit. That's like land property. Do not...

...seek to possess even goods or thieves for your old age. I guess I take that as like, or when I get to retirement age or when I get older, I'm going to have this house, I'm going to have this and that, and then you get to that age and that doesn't for that doesn't feel that whole, that void that you're looking for and at the end of the day, like you can't take your money with you when you die, you can't take your physical property with you. Need I that's probably how I can sceptualize that one. Yeah, that's that's a I think that's a difficult one because our old culture is kind of a rhyme that simulate and wealth and start us. Are you grow with the age? Yeah, it's a little bit of like a life wisdom and trying to be yeah, trying to reach beyond what makes you happy, but there's also an element of pride in being able to buy that house or being able to provide for your family. Right. So that's a little bit of a trade up in that regard. Number nineteen, this one. I know me and and he could probably going to touch bases on a little bit respect, but are and the gods without counting on their help. So the way, yeah, you got as you Gu fest I I wanted to present agree. I think the whether you'd regardless of a religion or what high power were you talk about. I think most of the time people's related relationship with religion is always about asking, you know, hey, like you know, you know, God, give me this car or, like you want this, I want the piers for with gold order, you know, all those things. And you know, I think it's important to not continuously ask and actually rely upon yourself to actually fulfill your dreams and desires or, to speak, then to just go hey, like you know, hey, like you know, I want that person to be I want to be in a relationship with that person. Help, like you know. So I think so many people, we were religion in that sense more so than anything else. But if you, you know, if you if you really like you know, have faith in the in the philosophy of with a Buddh are in that sense, or like you know, in the teachings of God, like you know, Jesus or whatever, like whatever book is that, if you actually still have faith in it, like Ay, well, you know, I have that in back of my head, have that believes something to. I believe in but I'm really need to ask for something all the time. Yeah, that's right. Is this is one of those one that's super easy to say then to actually practice, because I don't know if you heard the saying that, you know, even when you need even the blind man looks up to the sky. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, do not, sorry, respect, putter in the gods without counting on their help. And I think I say that as the same way, a change in your life, like those people will go to God or they'll go to whatever they see is a God when they need help. But that help that has to come from within. You have to want to do the changes and you have to want to make those sacrifices. When I read like counting on them from help. Like I believe I can always count on for God when I need God or and always, but I'm not coming to God saying I can't pay my rent this week, like can you help me out? Rather like it. You know, it's so it's kind of like conceptualizing a little bit and, you know, obviously taking it for what it is. But yeah, I think having that internal drive to problem solve and get to where you need to go. I think that's that's kind of where they're getting too there. So that's that is a good one. The Hot dip is hot dip is if you ask God for a three hundred in your bank a go and it's probably not going to happen right and if it happens, then it means Bloody Sirie was listening. So that's not good either. You just sold yourself a three hundred nub but twenty. You may have been in your own body, but you must preserve your honor, and that's like the Ultimate Samurai rule. You may abandon your own body, but do not are you must preserve your honor. So be willing to, be willing to die for what you believe in. You know, be willing to. You're going to pass away eventually, you're going to bend in your body, you're going to abandon your flesh, but always have your honor intact. What you believe in deep internally. Have that intact. So that's that's even okay. Live a like purpose. That, yeah, you're not if you die. If you die, you're not going to be a SEM love anything that you've you've done are you're not going to leave by a legacy of sort of your family being ashamed of you? Yeah, that's a really good point. In the last one, a gentleman, very well done. You've stuck with me through to the end. This might be the the great saying of the Samurai. Never stray from the way, and I think the way is the why. Never stray from your purpose, never stray from the reason you're existing, your meaning and life. Never stray from the way, baby. Agreed, one hundred percent. got a stick to your your philosophy, your method, what you believe in. One hundred percent agreed. Love it, boys. It's what was a yeah, that was a twenty one rules of life. Meao motor me Amoto Mussashi. If you're listening, brother, we appreciate it. What's that? Over Four Hundred Years Bea stupid I afford. Decided still get the word out there. So I thank you very much. Me About you and me sorry go here. Really I wanted it as quickly touch on.

This is something I feel like it should be on part of that list. Is Right, and is is that passion is a fool errand this is the this is something that I've been seeing a fair bit, a lot more off, I feel like passions sort of, I guess this sort of talked about it, desires and whatnot. I think it's important to live with your you know, never straight from the way, which is important, super true. But I think what people say, Hey, like I'm Lee letting go my way because of this, is my passion, is I think that's really a fool errand. But that's I don't great read. You know, it's going to be available on the homework section of our page, bloody ass. So would your would your would your understanding of what passion represents in that circumstance be like motivation and it fades and it's like so, if we're relying just on passion alone, you're not going to get anyway. Well, people say, it's when you look at the things that people talk about, what I'm passionate about. If you ever just go through, if you are someone with their passion was like, well, I'm passionate about, you know, climbing walls, it's most of a time what they're talking about is just gives them like, you know, temporary pleasure. It's a holly too many times. Yeah, it's a few too many times and they think that's what needs to be done. So when people, I think there's a huge culture was like follow your passion, I think I mean if someone is really good at something, like, you know, if Your Picasso and that's Your Passion and does your dream and you really good at it, by all means for all your passion and your dreams and what you could at. But for most people, when they say this is their passion, is most chances are it's just it's what they've been hate, the group they've been hanging out with, that's what they do. So they get few of those, you know, emotional needs feel and they just assumed that's passion. So I think that's interesting to look at and go hey, like, you know, that's probably not your way. So it's important to find that. Yeah, that's a true and I it just prompted me to look at one of the other quotes that we looked at before. I can't remember why and I can't remember was. So that doesn't even matter. Forget that point, might it? That doesn't matter. But now absolutely impassion to powerful motion, like you don't feel more alive and when you're passionate about something right when you know so intriguers you in the passion come flowing out of your body. But that's different to what you're speaking about, right. That's the kind of a different aut of it and and being on it. This is what it was being able to change because you're going to have a save. Your Passion is sport. Well, you're not just going to be able to play sport, because most people can't. Like, okay, well, am I going to be a journalist? Am I going to teach sport? Am I going to do these other things? So it's being practical with that passion as well, right, and not just being like or I just want to you know, I just want to do this and I'm going to stick to it. Yeah, I love it. I love it, boys. Yeah, all right, we're good. Yeah, we've nearly cracked two hours Conno, and this has been amazing. But I feel like we could talk to you like every episode, every day of the week. So, did you boys have anything more to add at all? I think I'm good. It's just time for my dinner. Yeah, now, it's true. We've been. Yeah, we've been pushing this hard a I'm my stomach's been from uppercuts at me for a while, so there might be a good idea. Beautiful it is. You know so much. Let's wrap up and lovely things gonna yeah, we appreciate it. Might obviously check us out on, you know, all the great channels that were on all spotifly on apple podcasts, on social media. We really appreciate everyone listening. I've been lucky joined by a nick in very special guest kind of we appreciate you so much. Bother, this has been the clever dummies podcast. WE'RE OUT BY.

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