The Clever Dummies Podcast
The Clever Dummies Podcast

Episode 20 · 1 year ago

The CDP // Ep20: More, more & More

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In this episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast , We talk about consuming and our need to want more and more.

And we're alive, baby. What's this episode? Number Twenty? Thank you all very much for tuning in. We really appreciate the listen. As always, I'm lucky, of course, joined by a nickue. How are you going today, Matt's fuck, it's good. It's been a little while. Let's let's be honest, but it's really good to chat with you by the good a good catch up mate. As always, it's good to be here. It's been roughly two weeks, I think we have. It hasn't been too bad. So we had a few episodes stacked up there, so that wasn't too bad, which is always good. So, you know, it's really Nice we've admitted to this is the big twenty episode. It's Nice know we admitted twenty. So that's collectively, I would presume that's almost thirty hours of recording time. So you know, if that's that's a good hustle. I'm very part of us and the four hundred hours that we do before and after just talk and shit. That's exactly right. I was January when we started. It was what he recognize on the ten, I want to say the date was something like that right, and it was just came from an idea. We were like really lucky because we figured out the name really early and sometimes he kind of gets stuck on that name and it's like, oh, what's going to stick? But the clever dummy is just work so well. And Yeah, twenty odd episodes, man, I've even in that time. Bro I know how much I've developed and changed, and you put up a really good instagram post the other day talking about kind of how and hoarded during, you know, during the current times, how important it has been for our mental health and just kind of getting things out on the table and even just putting word of mouth to our plans and what we want to do in life and how we've been feeling so now. I always appreciate it. We normally do that anyway, chat and that sort of thing, but we've been getting some really good feedback and be getting some really a broad range of listeners to might, I think. I think I even saw a couple of things and INTARCTICA might. So we're getting we're very far and wide, brother. That's good. It's been really good. I think we'll probably do an episode talking about because perhaps, you know, will maybe start taking into more audience kind of ideology but you know, then again, people are here to listen to what we had kind to said to say, which is nice. The first episode was released on the Twelfth of January, two thousand and twenty, so it feels like a lifetime away, but nonetheless this is the big twenty s which I'm very glad so I'm would like to, you know, text he is opiny to thank you, Lackland, for this incredible little podcast. You know, it started off with just as a you and I just chatting shit and kind of chatting about our things that we want to do and the things that we wanted to talk about, because that's what it really was. Would like which yould document this, and then hince came, yeah, really awesome. Recently got approved by Google to be I think it's so they're sort of kind of see it as a podcast that is kind of consistent, which is nice. Yet audience, consistent listeners, good base, and now I really like that's a good idea. It's a good way to develop at the show and continue being new, get some audience input. Obviously, topic ideas is a big one, because we can just go off of that and it's something that people might want to hear our interpretation of and then even just questions. Like you know, questions are a good idea. So reckon, I reckon. Over the next few weeks we might do a bit of that on the social channels and kind of get what people want to hear and that sort of thing. But yeah, now all's good in well, mate, I'll tell you what their brother, being a parent, might I mean, you know, let's be honest, I'm pretty lucky man. I got a pretty good Mrs I do like ten percent of the work, you know, let's be honest. But being a parent certainly has his fair shares of ups and downs, just like the podcast game, and it's actually very similar to life. You know, it's just like many things. By they they overlap and and Bob and weave. But Mat it's just one of those things. Once that happens, that happens and you sort of just embrace it. When yeah, so it's July, fourteenth of July she was born, so I'd say there was at least a month where I was like in the clouds, you know, nonstop, and now we're really starting to see her personality grow and develop and she's getting so smart and picking up little things so just like this little bit baby we've been growing might, this baby at home. It's been growing fantastic and I think she's got my personality. She loves to they have a good laugh, so might we're on the right track. By that it's back a great to hear my B that's all really excited. The just just so you know, there's episode in July on twenty four, which is kind of where you talk about, you know, the little bit being born, and that's where we kind of that's also kind of news. gliterally gold we have news. So if you ever want to go listen to what? Yeah, you had that. That's also good, because this is a literally documentation. So yes, absolutely, I know this, that I've listened to all the episodes, but I only listen to it once, like generally after they release. I've actually gotten better at that. I used to not want to hear myself talk, but I just relax. You know, you're not a fucking professional. You doing all right, you know, like I have this weird thing where I won't actually hear what I'm saying or just listen to the way I'm speaking and I'll get really angry. It's just me being a bit of affectionist, but I want to really actually go back and listen to...

...that, because at that time it literally feels like a lifetime away. It really like because because I can't, like just like any any experience you have, you can't quite remember. You can remember kind of how you feeling a little bit, but you can't remember the experience in the emotions you're going through. So it feels like it was a long time ago, but it was only what three months. It's been a really fast three months and that's kind of been the weird spot we've been all been in a little bit right like it's, you know, October ninth today, brother, and it's like usually people. Had someone at work tell me. He's like usually people this time of year, like, I know, Christmas is around the corner. Fuck, this is gone so far, like you know, where's the year gone? What's going on this year? Everyone's like, fucking, bring it on, let's get it, let's get it. Fucking two thousand and twenty one, baby, that's our year. What's interesting, though, this year, despite its despite the events that has have occurred during this year, this year has still gone by very fast. At least that's what it feels like. So it's been a a year and a half. You know, it's been basically, let's call this year, years of lesson, lessons learned, is the years and, you know, some new experiences you obviously had atty, and then it's is yeah, it's a brilliant experiences. You know, I probably I got to know myself a lot more stole sort of found like a little equilibrium into my mental space as well, you know, where I think one of the biggest development that I made was I used to do things at a very high level in a sense where I was always just bouncing off the walls during the Times. I learned to do the things even when I was feeling like Shit, didn feel motivated, and I still got those things done, and I think that was something that I was very proud because I knew it was like it has to be done. So it's been a very, very educational year and there's a lot to learn and there's a lot that has been taught. And then there's one thing I can say about this year that has taught us, and this is kind of do this podcast it as well. You know, we all need to need each other, which is super important. We need not necessarily rely on each other, but we do need each other, which is also what I was saying. This podcast has been actually a staple to my mental health and obviously that goes to you. Lack, and not necessarily the podcast is more Melia and a creation of ours, but you know, that's something. So it's been nice to chatting to you where. It's been really good for my mental health to kind of have something look forward to do. And every time I would do this podcast, I I would have a momentum build up and just bump. It's to continue or come away from it. It's weirdly therapeutic to like I rem a Joe Rogan said this a long time ago. Is like the best thing about a podcast is like, in today's really fast paced, you know, day and age, like you really get to sit down and have a real conversation with someone for an hour or two hours or however long it is, and actually just have uninterrupted like not check your phone, not have any outside steamulis and just be focused on the other person. You know, we're obviously have to do this through through Zencaster, through zoom essentially, but it's, you know, it's it's oddly enough, the more you do it, the more it feels like we're together, like, you know, it's just like just like anything. You know, you kind of get used to it and it feels like we're connecting every time. And you know those thoughts, the things that we talk about, and used to happen in radio as well. It was like a the light, like you'd be worried about like all, what am I going to say? Am I going to have anything to say? But when the when the cameras rolling, Bro when that record, but in this playing the pressure builds and you just start talking. And what happens when you start talking, when he kind of don't know what to say, is you just speak from the heart right and I think that's the most therapeutic, beautiful thing about it and it's actually something that we all need more of. And it's not always easy to do, like it is hard to even to your closest friends, like, you know, how often do our someone like or how you gone? Yeah, good man, how's your day been? Like, you know, not what you talked like, we don't actually care, like how are you actually going? So it's just a beautiful vehicle for that and I think that's probably been kind of the best thing about it is it's that's the avenue that that has kind of created for us and I love it and I like, I reckon, we'll do this forever because that reason, like you know, we were very much you know, we're productive people and we like to have our set thing and this time in that time, and I think this works best when we just we go when we can and we go when we do and we just fucking we know we haven't had a bad episode. Brother, let's be honest, like no, we don't want to Tut our own horn here. You know, I'm sure there's been some better than others, but we're just ripping every time and the fact that we always feel better afterwards is testimony to that, I reckon. And all the feedback we've gotten has been sort of you saying the same thing right. So, yeah, very good, man, very good. That's how one. That's our first little plug on ourselves. And now a little pat of the back. Sometimes it's good out of being too hard on yourself. Sometimes good at touch. That fucking right. Very Nice, very nice. Little shout out to connor because we had connored on the last episode and he' Mum was listening to...

...the podcast. All Nice. That's awesome, and you know she read through our knows you find out where her way to our website. I think she'd read some of our stuff as well and she was just saying it's it's a great episode. So which was this is what it's all about, building this little community, which is awesome. So it's good to be awesome. So that's a little pat in the back. It's funny because, like, I knew he was going to be a good dude because you guys live together and you know you've met some of my friends that I've met outside of kind of our life together back in Sydney and, you know, kind of outscot of school, which is what it was our big friendship base. But because we always look for that same, similar type of person. Like I feel like I've known connor for years. Like you know, we chatted to him on the podcast. It took about two minutes to break that little bit of kind of understand how we talk, and it's just like me, I feel like I known I've known him since I was a kid, and I'm sure you feel the same way. It's just such exactly so a shadow the connor fucking love you, but, yeah, shallow kind of it's really interesting is because the kind of friends that you end up picking is because you kind of know. It's interesting because those kind of friends that kind of you know, look beyond then what just is of the consumer, of normally what the days the society lives in. And they're very few people like that and you often find that if you are one of those people, you very quickly connect with those people because there's no bullshit about talking about, yeah, how's the weather today, because that's something that people still genuinely talk about. You know. So which which is interesting. Yeah, and that's yeah, quick little chats, like if you go to the coffee shop or you go to the news center or petrol station, like I has it going today? Fuck, another cold day by another hot day. It's like, you know, but it is what it is. You know, that's if you're going to connect and to connect. But yeah, you can feel like you can talk to him about kind of anything and everything and he actually cares and I think that's kind of a big part of you know, our best friends have always been that way. We actually care about it to other and I think that's we kind of getting out there like this real value to that you're not just another person and that you know it's, you know, actually something that you're trying to build a connection with him. You have a connection with so yeah, I think that's a big part of it. That's exactly right. Now Cord Nineteen in Victoria is still on full blast. Yes, and totally number the numbers are going done. We are no longer in a looking good to my it's been been on a nice, steady decline for a quite a, quite a while. It's really nice to see that. You know, kind of the pressure at various paces has slowly started to ease and you know, obviously, if you're not in that experience day by day, you can really only imagine what it's like. But at least it's good to see that it's heading of the right direction. I will take the small win. Well, that's exactly I will take the small winds win because it's something is happening and who knows what would have all would have been the other side that off this would have been, and who would have you know? Look, if there's a whole episode, which I feel like we probably have brewing up in here and talking about the Corvid, that was or you know, the year that. Yeah, I'm situation. Yeah, and we can go into all that and kind of going to the conspiracies of it, but I think just to touch on that, I I don't know, I no longer really know where my stance is, what I think about it, but I do there is one thing that I want to bring up and I totally forgot to mention to the mentioned that to you in our pre planning meeting. Yeah, we believe it or not, we have those every to my very form of those things very almost. So one of the things that I was talking about, and I think I've briefly touched on this before, and it said the government is talking about using data mode link that include chance, which kind of weed me out because chance cannot be calculated. So when you go hey, there's a chance, what kind of confused me because someone who's worked in data you know that kind of like computer environmental you know. I know that chance cannot be calculated. So that's something that I had kind of a weird question about that fact that everyone just said yeah, all right, will just take it for what it is. My biggest concern with society that I saw in Victoria was that. However, how how everyone was just okay with what it was. Don't get me wrong, they need to follow the rules, and everyone did, because it's a testament to what needed to be done because the numbers is down. However, the fact that no one questioned anything, the fact that people are wearing masks while they're driving all by themselves, is kind of problematic. Yeah, just go close to me. Is goes both. Society is like actually dumb and they'll just do anything that anyone tells them. Right, and like to kind of interrupt a little bit. Just a question. I think there's a little bit of like an issue that I found with it is like the government is like it's they almost seem like they don't want to admit that they don't know what to do, because this is, you know, kind of a first of its kind, or at least it has happened before a long time ago, and they might have had emergency plans in place and whatever else, but they almost like I almost felt it would have been better if they had have come out and said, you know, and they may have done it...

...in various loose forms, but kind of brought everyone in and it's like, you know, we kind of need your help with we really need your help with this thing. You know we're not we're not going to force anything on you, but we need to work together. Obviously it's not just here. We do do all this, but it's like wet this thing is changing every day and we need you know, some days we're going to predict these things and some days we're not. Like what we knew a few things that got proven wrong. Like it just even in terms of the ability for the virus, and we've already opened up the cannon worms. We're not going to go into it too deep and we don't want to harp on the negative too much. We want to keep it up beat. We're definitely going to save a full podcast for it. But you know, at first this virus spread really quickly in the air and they found that it was actually you know, this is this is all Harvard and stand for it start like these are all studies. You can look up line that have gone through. It's actually more of a surface disease, so it doesn't actually trends like it doesn't actually transfer so much in the air. So even a master a good idea for people that have underlying health conditions it's like lessons their chance of getting it. It's actually not how it's really being spread. The same with a symptomatic people. So if you don't have symptoms at first, they said you can still transmit the disease. Well, they know now somethink some rate of like ninety episode of cases where Non Asymptomatic. So essentially people that got sick. So that didn't work too. They shut down schools because they're worried about kids spreading it. Or it turns out that people have really young age actually aren't getting this thing because their body hasn't developed to a stage that they this thing just passes through, or they don't even get it, which is really interesting as well. But we've never got any of this information. We got told the things we needed to do and whatever else, but when the information changed there was no mention of it. And you know, it definitely kind of goes back to it goes back to a lot of things, but an acceptance for the like leaders of authority to admit when they're wrong and like admitting you're wrong is not a bad thing. It's actually just shows maturity and it shows that you're actually wanting to resolve this thing. So I think that's that's where the warrior is really starting to brew from. That is like there hasn't been anything. There hasn't been any of that. And if you know, if you're doing the wrong thing, if you're not wearing a mask, if you're not isolating like you're a bad person. If you get this thing, then you're a bad person. It's just really fear driven and obviously the media is a big part in a blame to that as well, but the the willingness, and that's all kind of led to people now just being so over the thing that they're just willing to accept what it is. Just get it away, just tuck it off. You know, will do whatever we need to, and really we actually don't need to anymore. This thing is not actually as deadly as as we thought it was going to be. And like sure there are there was a report today about the cases spiking in France, but the depths are never been lower. Like the depths are actually of across the board, across the world, of gotten lower, and it just this really coodcerning in that regard. How it's very much authoritarative and not a democratic way of dealing with things. It's very much authoritarative. This is how it's going to be. You have to do this and you have to do that, when really, men, like, legally, none of these things are really shouldn't have been done, like you can't stop people practicing religion freely, you can't stop people protesting like all these things that they were arresting people for protesting this thing. Men, that's our mat it's our most basic human right, is to protest the government. That's why we have a democracy, because if we feel the government's not doing the right thing by us, we have the right to protest it. So all these little things have led and you were very much you know, I don't say we weren't opposite in our opinions, but you are very you know, you were very fair and understandable of that. This is a pandemic. We have to be careful, we have to sacrifice, and to hear you kind of articulate a different way in our is almost showing to me, and I know the type of person you are, like this thing is gotten way out of hand and it's really turning to something that's turning this something you get a lot uglier than the actual virus itself. And what it's doing to people and the way people, you know, deal with each other, the spite and the anger and everything else. It's just just as fallen off the wagon. You're in the mark there now. The few things I would like to point out, and I still stand with the fact that this what this is and was, a global pandemic that needs to be definitely with the most of most of the delicate, cautious cautiousness, right caution and do how we deal with it is going to really define is how we move forward, because it's not just about the disease, this particular disease, it's also about the disease that's going to come, the next disease that's going to come. The problem is it's always we always have to remember these pandemic would have never happened ten years ago because people didn't travel the world like they do now. People the global borders weren't as thin as they are now. The walls are so small. So that's something to really keep in mind. So this, this particular pandemic, is not isolated instant, instant. So that's why that's what my concern. That's what I said. It's important to know how we deal with and I think it's a society. We absolutely failed, and the government's failed even more so than anything else. You know, in they...

...are right and wrong ways to do it right. So, in regards to the protest, in regard to the protest, I was I was sitting on the phasts like well, first of all, I guess they have. Yes, they have the right to do it, but then again, this is probably the reason that's going to cause the skypelas spike. So there's like so many things to consider. However, there is one thing I would like to mention about the government. The government should have come out said hey, this is a new catastrophy that we have never dealt with. Yeah, let's come together as a nation, in fact as a global nation, as earth links, and deal with this. The government should, governments should have come together, but they didn't. What they did was make up words that they randomly picked up from the dictionary. They are road map this. So, you know, it's like putting up from now and that is to stop the spreading, so that they continuously made up this world of saying that you know, for example, Victorian government is using this word of lockdown. You know, isolation and social distancing which is always the word that I talked about. That I didn't like particularly because the connotation that it can ory carried because, you go, was going to remember, especially when you start talking about communitive dissonance, in that kind of psychology, psychological realm, the kind of power that particular words carry and that enerpy neuralistic programming, in fact, that those certain words can have, because when you say social distancing, it actually really feels that you okay, well, I'm socially distancing, so I'm going to going to my little bubble and the yeah, that thing like bubble. So everyone was literally mentally in their bubbles of like, I'm just in my little bubble, in my fetal position on my bed. That is the problem. The problem is not the fact that, you know, we said Hey, we had to be a locked down. The problem was Scott Morrison saying that he will wait to see what the Victorian premier does in regards to the in regards to opening up, in regards to extending the job keeper, that he left a whole state to try because, based on politics, that was an issue. What was an issue that Dann and didn't consider what was going to happen to all the people whose job keepers, who's going to get cut, and he continued on anyway without actually even talking about it. What he said was that wasn't his that wasn't his place talk about it. What do you mean? That's not your place. That's where you need to talk about it. You get holding this present stay and yeah, you don't know. At least discuss your job here is to a shore short people, not be a negative net every day. And I like Dan Andrews. That's the problem. I like I think he's done. Seems like a standup guy. Yeah, he seems like a stand up guy and I want to say he's done a decent job, which he has right, which he has, because the way we were going, the numbers were multiplying and there's no way to deny that right. However, something he's done poorly, but then again he's a human so came before. Given same thing that our prime minister done some things poorly and I presume every government made mistakes. Same thing with trump. Made a huge mistakes and recently he got copyed nineteen as well, which is kind of hilarious. Also, then he got a very straight away. Also got always straight away. I do want to add I love how media everyone was jumping up and down and saying he'd so glad that trump called coby ninetya. That's kind of really rubbish. Why do you, why do you treat not the human like that, regardless of who? Yeah, yeah, it's very much a pass versus them. It's a team mentality and politics is replaced religion in, or at least ideology in a lot of people's lives. So people are so politically focused and forced and almost like it's an identity. Now, like which side of the fensive one, like my l well, yeah, to to it's there's two wings or the same bird at the same day, like we shouldn't be the life versus the right. It's not fucking the parade. It was playing the fucking bulldogs. It's bloody. It's we're all human beings. Like, at the end of the day, you can believe in you know, that's a beautiful thing about a democracy. You can have both, you know, both sides of the argument. You know, lean one way, you go the other little bit more conservative, a little bit more risk taking, willing to take a risk, and then we come somewhere in the middle. But it became, as you mentioned, before Scott Morrison, a liberal representative, Dan and Jews, a Labor representative, and and obviously we can, we can harper on about that. Don't know too much about politics in depth to really go deep there. What we do know and what we have beaten to a dead horse is the media and kind of the fear driven, you know, the ratings that they've gotten off this thing. And now two things. I'll quickly finish and then I'll be done, because we do want us kind of save this and go and going deeper and not sort of just brush over at the time. They really want to Harper on. We already have hundred percent. First thing is first thing is, you know how many we saw a heap of new stories everyday, new stories about new cases here, people getting sick, people that sort of thing, things that need to be covered. How many? How many stories have you heard about the alternative? Do it? We do. We know that over like ninety nine point four percent of people recovered from this thing and there's heaps of people that have...

...beaten this thing. Not One story on that, like, what the Hell is going on there? And and second thing, which is the one that's kind of just shows how paper thin and fucking Shit. The media has become so to use that, friends, are just is what it is now, the now, because the the virus is starting to doing it all out in Australia, which is a bit of a thing now that they're harping on all the great recession to follow. How you know this is the biggest budget since World War II, how we're going to recover, and that negativity just goes into somewhere else. Now it is it is just putrid. It is it is just us. Suck me off the media. Anyway. I had to say that past media and I said we're on. In regards to the budget. That will probably take us into our next topic. I do, however, do wanna say just quickly on that. In regards to the media right. Media didn't portray it. There was so much fake news that was going around during this whole pandemic. Still is. In regards to I don't know if you remember, I think we spoke about this and there was a there was a influxing suicides. Turns out, and I said it to an I'm I'm milli to admit I fell into the same trap and I said, Hey, there's an increase in suicides. Turns out that was wrong. Media just played on the certain words and went on a particular thing. There was no figs. Turns out coronavirus doesn't cause suicide. Obviously, I agree that it has been very tough for people. It probably sup most people. It is probably the hardest time still yet to really understand the ramifications. I think it's going to be yet, particularly for people that have lost the businesses. And Yeah, you know, way alive. I think it's still but now you're right like that, if you look at the statistics, it's actually hasn't people of sort of come together in that regard, like small communities have been built and online communities have been built and yeah, yeah, so just just a quite, just a little plug, dude. You so you know what kind of power the social media carries, and this is interesting that they're they don't really care what this spread. So That's interesting. And I've always been here. There's miss always no this end in any other line of work. Like if you make a mistake, like you have to be accountable for that mistake. Peep, particular people in government and people in the media, which is ultimately, you know, the meant to be the fifth wing of, you know, meant to keep everyone in check. This release a story that was factually incorrect. You didn't do any hard, good work at all. You just ran with a story that was essentially Click Bait, and there's no ramification at all for it. It's just as wanting the next one. There's no like hey, sorry, guys will wrong, we'll trying to do the right thing. Let's move on. But no, it's just let's keep marching this drum. And Yeah, it's definitely one of those things we can harp on forever and whatever else, but that doesn't matter because we're just saying it as it is. And I feel like that's our position in podcasting in this realm is we don't have to be bipartisan to any side of the political sphere or any side of political correctness or any side of the essentially the media landscape that ZIS nowadays. And you know, the entire almost the entire media, is based off, based off fear, because that's the only weapon they have now to keep the ball rolling, keep the people watching. Is like. Apart from that, what are they going to talk about? Bloody old anything. The farm that's struggle with droughts, are you know, it's just it is. That's exactly is tough. Look, look, obviously there are some things in life that are difficult and media can report on them and they need to keep the news interesting. I initiald for sure, but I think I don't want it to go away like yeah, we don't want to go by, we don't they doing a job, but that needs to be done. At least I don't want to. I don't want to wake up in the morning and go see Dan Andrews every single day. You know, so glass. Believe that's what to be there either. You can say he's by spirit style, the poor fire. Yeah, anyone checked out it? It's check up, check out o the yeah. So, look, there's a lot happening there, but I think there's knees definitely needs rejection measures, I think, on this podcast. But I do want to say I think my concept has always been, I feel like you and I both and this podcast, but it stands for we respect people, we we respect a danger of society that life can be depressing, life can be scary and they are inequalities inherently and suffering is inherent. Myst suffering is inherent. So Willie to acknowledge everything and I think, however, they are certain things that we all need to be aware of. That that's what we will always talk about, is the fact that some things always seem worse. They may seem worse than they actually are. Life itself is very beautiful. We are lit we're lucky enough to live on this absolutely beautiful planet that somehow manages support this entire life and seven billion people and all these animals and everything under the sun, and literally and the Sun Right. Yeah, you know, every most of us are lucky enough to wake up with eyes, and I say more ust of us because I understand there are people out there were not lucky. I'm not, you know,...

...unfortunately, enough comes unfortunately can't see and like there's I'm saying. So there's a lot to be grateful for and a lot to be upset about. Is Support all about what you're going to choose to see when you open your two beautiful eyes that you have as a gift every morning, and just remember what you're going to what you're going to see, is the question. Yeah, just do a little self forwd it sometimes and count the blessings you do have. And I think we're going to that's a perfect segue into what we really the meat and vage of what we wanted to get into this episode. But I guess one last thought here is we're going to we're going to make a really great episode on kind of what we believe is really going on behind the scenes of kind of the world we're living in right now, and we definitely need to do our research as well, because we're probably going to make some pretty pretty big claims and we're going to have to probably that's going to be a great episode. Is Probably, you know, it's kind of a main purpose, like a big purpose based episode like this is actually, you know, part of what we're meant to be doing right now is telling it the way it is. So stay tuned for that. That's going to becoming really soon. But my we're going to we're going to have to fucking pull the cursolutely and get it. And I didn't say I look forward to that. That's exactly right. And I think one thing that I want to promise to the podcast and to us is, as obviously people who are listening and as we know as well, we have slowly worked towards becoming this. More I prefer work towards becoming a more podcast that is actually, you know, accessible and you know, it's a little bit professional. You know, we are, you know, available on Podcast, we have a beautiful website and all that stuff. Right, and I think one thing that I would like to pledge to is actually having more structured research based arguments and topics as well. So I think which will be the next step, particularly when we're talking about a topic like that and we're making big claim so I think that's going to be a good researched kind of sats right. Yeah, we want the truth to be the heart of everything. So in order to get to the truth, you can't just make things up and give to the gap and Talk Shit, and we're still going to do that. But yeah, when push comes to show, it's definitely on us and on everyone to just dig a little bit and get into it. So I love it. My very good. Sounds good, but not not talking about the yeah, not talking about the budget. Right. So in the budget, as we are aware, a lot of the allocation of particular that in particular that particular funds that were, I said, so many particulars. there. The funds that have been allocated in the budget has been is going towards gas companies and climate in regards to climate change, the total world came up in the budget once, which is interesting. To start this next particular topic that we're talking about, I love the word as a dopt word of the day, particular, particularly it's got to talk about this one particular documentary that I seen today, which is David and bras new documentary that came out on Netflix. My Men's ninety eight years old and still do in the dancing the still we will know the Great David and a brother from the wide landscapes of Africa or the deep dark webs of the Pacific Ocean. My bad, he's nine before years, ninety four might he's still in the nine is mighty. Is kneed on Bradber's average. So he's doing well, man. how I wonder how many bloody tacos he's pumped out. My men, my men, can put up a put up a fight, that's for sure. He can put up a fight. I mean he's been doing it for almost a century. Let's think about that for us. Yeah, that's crazy. Almost a hundred years and you know, he's a voice is strong as ever and he just talks and he makes you feel better about it. The thing about the wild he's I kind of want to go. Yet. Why is he not on that bloody what's that's not weirs? What's the other rap, the meditation APP why was he not on harm? He's not it. I think he's on his on calms, on it. He's on it. He's on it. People are going to quote me on it, but I think fact check. I have pretted on my checker. Maybe that might be the way that producer, Bernanny West, tear its waste. So in this documentary is about the event that's been probably the topic of the past two decades, or at least this deckead to say at least, which is climate change and global warming, that particular scenario. Now, I saw the documentary and I was very touched and because there were some facts and figures in there that really hit home and there's a lot to talk about. The is, you know, he talked about, obviously consumption of overconsumption of animals or consumption of fish and over like you know, people people hunting animals for for no particular reason, and and the journal kind of damage that we do to the earth, because humans do do that it's one of...

...those topics that so many people have different views about and different people have different agendas. So it's hard to go hey, this is where, this is what the truth is. So I don't know what the truth is, but he's where I stand. So I'm going to discuss where I stand and what the documentary was about. The documentary, obviously he talks about mostly about overconsumption, but where the planet used to be and where the planet is now and how the global population is going to flatten out, which it's going to. I think roughly in the next thirty years or so, the global population is going to hit its peak. So that means from their own with is gonna goes on a little bit of a flatline to kind of a downwards I think they call it a negative population growth. So we're basically well. So I think Japan is also going through that right now. That's that was more tests than earth right. Yeah, so Japan is going to a negative population growth. So they actually their population actually dropped for the last fifty years. So I can actually tell you the exact population. What was the name of the documentary? Might let me have a look. Yeah, I'm definitely to even watch it Rometry is called life on planet earth. Yeah, life on really like and yeah, bring Japan. All right. So Japan's population is so in one thousand nine hundred and ninety, Japan's population was in one thousand nine hundred and ninety six, Jaman population was hundred twenty five million and today, sorry, in into my bad. In two thousand and nine, Japan's population was one, one hundred twenty eight millions, and as of today it's one hundred and one mill one. Sorry, get there. Your Cat's cracked into the I am's my way way, but we are recording light. It's all good. Two Thousand and ten, Japan's population was hundred and twenty eight million. Yeah, as of the latest figures of twenty twenty Japan, Japan's population is hundred twenty six million. So that's almost a degrees of two million, two hundred million people. Yeah, it too me. Yes, it's about to say, roughly. Yeah, so that's for obviously keeping in mind that's a population decrease, which is the for the you know, it's a quite of a it's a very new phenomena that's going to come into the world. So, which does mean that's good for our environment because we're going to stop consuming as much as we do nowadays. These counter arguments that which we will get into, and I think locks now. Let you get into that. However, I my thing that I want to say is I agree that we definitely at times over consume, specially things like McDonald's, not nearly in necessity. We can definitely get rid of it. We can stop hunting for the animals that we don't need to hunt for for a perfume or a fucking Parada purse. Don't see us, Parada, we love you, it's only a joke, and you know, those kind of stuff that is just not necessary and you would like it, because as as our modern society, this society driven by the consumer culture, just wants and wants and wants and demands more, is definitely an issue and we are fucking with the earth. However, however, I do think there's also a flip side, to say side to it. I think if we stop fucking around, do move towards natural you know, if we stop doing the you know, the fossil fuel electric power, electrical city power. So if he's the things that I feel like we could easily do and that would probably help the earth, move away from the fossil fuse. So go away from the gas industry, the electrical industry, move away from that and reduce the unnecessary, you know, animal consumption. I think will be pretty good. I think there's hope for US still. That's where I stand with the whole Sitch, did you want to go just cut? You kind of did explain what the documentary is about, but what I guess maybe give a little bit of a preview of the kind of the setting of it. Did he was he particular on any part of the world, or was it just was it kind of an overview of his life and how the world changed his life span? So he basically talks about the the forest he went to when he was first started off as a broadcast right twenty years old, and how those places used to look and how they look now, and also how the population has grown grown since then, since when he first started, and also how much, how animal population has decreased over the years as well and how many wildlife animals have disappeared since then. So that...

...was also kind of like a nice testament to his life as to what has happened in his lifetime and things that he's actually seen, because he was talking about he went to a particular place where he met a saw these particular chimpanzees, I think it was, and those exact places. Actually the forest doesn't this anymore because it's been divorced eye. So those kind of things. It's really going to fall around his life. So so you got from like him and it visiting the Africa in the beginning of like you know, earlier diamond. So it's kind of like follows a timeline of his life, also reflecting onto the damage that has incurred by the earth or over the years. Is what kind of the documentaries about. It's quite interesting, actually quite interesting. It gets very emotional at the times, because he gets emotional. So it's in yeah, it's good. His passionate turn. He'd loves what he does and he you believe, like you, you know, he's not just he's not a guy like he's been doing it for so long. He's not doing it for the money. So he's not going to be falsely led, you know, by by it like people that are funding the certain leas you hope. So he's not going to be false he led by people that are funding the documentaries and all that sort of conflict of interest. They can come in those sort of theories when people are trying to prove a point. Like a really good example of that was the the Vegan. It was the meat eater actually taught on Netflix. It was, yeah, game changer, so that one. He was what was James Wilks? James Wilks, so he was a former MMA fighter, a guy who was a, you know, pro meat eater and then went to being a Vegan and brought up some really good points kind of about the potential negative health effects of what meat has, you know, on the human body. But very, very use a lot of statistics essentially. And one of my one of my favorite kind of online personalities is a guy named Lane Norton. He's a he was a biologist, PhD in, you know left, right and center. Essentially knows more about the human body than you know. Ninety nine percent of the body people walk in the youth. And he essentially had this really good youtube video. It's just called the game change. Is debunked on Youtube. It goes for about forty minutes. It's really good watch and he goes in pretty hard on James Works, like he's a pretty passionate guide to. So he sort of rips, he moped a little bit and the kind of the main thesis of that Youtube Video, which is scientifically back to he has all the studies in there. He sort of prove that in that in that documentary James Wilks, you know, the the research that he used was very much focused on only one side of the argument and he didn't push through, you know, kind of he didn't even things out and try to come for the middle ground. It was just very biased and it's one of those things I'm not going to do justice by explaining it, but Lane Norton Debunk's game changes on Youtube. It's a really good video, good watch, and basically he's he talked about the power that statistics actually play in research and the way that we do research. So statistical analysis, which essentially when you gather a whole bunch of information and you come to conclusions off this information. There's a certain type of data analysis called Quantitative Dalla analysis for all the nerds out there, the statistic nerds out there, and that's essentially that's essentially when you break down a lot of information and you try to come to resolutions off a whole bunch of information, but you actually don't go into how the INFORMA nation was gathered and you kind of come off trying to create resolutions of that and she's just very flawed. And some of the claim you are body Buildingcom is that right? WHO's that Lean Ladron? Yeah, he's a he's an amazing man. He's some of the stuff that he's got into, like he's a natural bodybuilder. He won, he won both bodybuilding contests and so natural body build building contest and power lifting contests as well, almost around the same time. So if he's just an absolute, absolute amazing like a really smart dude to like a PhD holder, a doctor technically, and also has the athletic pray West. So it's a guy that can really respect and he sort of broke that down and kind of what's leading into that is just the way that we look at certain type of statistics. In that regard, a guy named Rob Wolf, who I also listened to as well. He's got a really good Article online Rob Wolf with two bees. It's called regenitive agriculture. Are We talk? Are we walking the walk or talking the talk? And he essentially goes into kind of the way that data again is looked at and agriculture, which is essentially the growth and industry that is behind natural life, so behind vegetation, behind meat and that sort of thing. A lot of the times we talk about the carbon footprint in. There's data that that's brought up about the carbon footprint in the negative effects of, you know, growing a lot of cattle and putting that through the industry, the negative effects that has on the society, but then actually outweighing that and kind of comparing it to like how many people does it feed? People get healthy, nutritious diets and that sort of thing. So it's important to kind of look at it from both sides of the angles and I...

...sort of gave you guys a bit of information to look at there, but it's kind of both ends of the spectrum. It's a good way to come to a conclusion anyway. So Rob Wolf kind of goes into the kind of ways up almost would be supporting. I think he wouldn't be anti what what the documentary would be about. It's like the way that we're producing in the way that we're over consuming a lot of things in our life is unhealthy. Like there is there is so much waste. There are so many, you know, there's fast food chains, there's so many ways that we're getting our food nowadays that is really not designed for our human life form and it's not sustainable because because we just, you know, in order, essentially in order to make like a certain amount of burghers at McDonald's, like the way that you process that compared to say, going to the grocery story is so different, because you think the amount of customers that are going through MacDonald's and KFC and all these different things as just so natural, and that's why the quality of the meat isn't very good. So if you know, if we peeled back on that and if we ate grass fed beef like we if we actually funded those industries, the way the earth works, and this is, you know, very bro Sign centific, and I'm you know, I'm kind of articulating what their point was. The way the world's actually design is it's actually capable and able to foster our life in a sustainable way. We just can't be so aggressive about it. We just have to take it slow. We can't keep over consuming and keep putting so much to waste, ripping through our oceans and overfishing. If we do it at a certain point where big businesses aren't just coming in and trying to make as much profit as possible, which is the nature of business, but doing it to a point just take as much as you need, and that's that's a kind of a thesis you can live in life. Just take what you need, no more than this lurk. This world is beautiful world we live in will sustain us for the rest of our lives. But it's that over consumption, it's that it's that greed that comes from big business and comes in factory farming. Like Bro. You have to watch like one video of factory farming on Youtube and like you're going to be a Vegan for the rest of your life because the way they do that. So it's just horrendous. And most of that stuff is fast food chains, Bro, because that's the other thing outside of supermarkets and whole food stores and those sort of places. That's the only way to get that to people. And it's it's it's sad man like. It really is sad like. Kind of agreed that is overtaken the way we eat and you know, it's just sort of filtered all throughout life. So essentially, my little rent there couple of things. They look at Rob Wolf, you Gen Genitive Agriculture by Rob Wolf. And then, if you are interested in the kind of the debunking of the game changes, which I am, because I'm a passionate anti Vegan, quote unquote, not so much in terms of your choice, people's choice, a free choice to be Vegan, not at all. But it's more so when you're claiming that what they essentially what James Wilks did in the in the game change of documentaries, he was saying that red eat and all these different things are bad for you, and that's kind of where he went at it from attack, and I want to be much on the side of what Rob Wolf and what you know, what was articulated by Edinburgh is like. You know we can sustain in our life. We you know, the world has a beautiful way of growing. As we are growing, we just can't be greed. We we need to regulate business. We need to make sure that we're not over inshuming the things we really don't need, and not just if you even think about it from a productive standpoint. Man, if you're having to breed x amount of cows and x amount of lambs and goats and chickens and all that sort of thing that you the lifespan of these animals are not designed to do that. So it really is kind of a really is a bit of a nasty look into that world, but it's also it also kind of lets us know that we can actually we can do better in that regard as well, and it kind of filters back to, I guess, how previous this discussion on covid like. If we treat each other with respect and we treat this world we live with respect as our own like, as our own backyard, like, what it really is like. Just because you live on this patch of dirt in Australia doesn't mean you know in India like where it's not us. Obviously we don't live there, but at the same time it's all part of this massive ecosystem and if we're all a little bit less greeting in that regard, a little bit more understanding that, you know, we can have people that do this in that heaps of people going to be Vegan, heaps of people are going to be needed. Is Heaps of people going to drink alkaline water, heaps of people, whatever it is like we can sustain all these beautiful differences that we have in society. It's just the you know, it's really the greed in the industry that's taken over, and they're also the ones that are polluting like absolute savages as well. They're the ones that are burning through our Bloody Tho zone layer and that sort of thing too. So just as long as we remember that people that eat meat and the farmers that are out there providing food for us, they're not the ones in the wrong. It's the these big organizations that don't care about farming correctly and giving land enough time to reproduce and relay, because that's the way the world works. They're just pumping it in, get more fertilizer in their spray the thing, build it up, inject these cows in the hormones like getting bigger. That's essentially what they're doing, and it's making us unhealthy to so well, that's exactly right. I think that's another big thing...

...to remember is to the fact that do it. We need to do this for us. And there's one thing that I would like to point and this is kind of a more of like a personal health point of view. We don't actually require as much of food as we consume, which like one hundred percent like new wire near. So today I want open city has never been higher. That's exactly a particular today. Right. I did experiments an yesterday. So last me I had yesterday was at seven PM, right, and the next meal I had was today at six PM. So that's all. I twenty for our fast. Before our fast, I was like a thing was roughly going to our fast. Yeah, sorry, I yet. So dropping going to our fast and let it that. Sorry, tracking it right. Yeah, and you know, I had black coffees in the middle and a little bit of coconut oil, I feel, and then I and then after that I had some eggs, you know, basically with a little bit of high fat, which is coconut oil again. So I'm starting to Tri Keytrogenic Diet, which is like kitrogenic fast. So I feel great, like, I mean, this is roughly, I think one am. Now I feel great, like I'm not hungry and I've been eaten anything since then. I'm going to do the read same thing again tomorrow. It's going to be two days in a row. I don't feel hungry because I'm like obviously you go, oh well, I'm bored, I'm going to go eat, but you don't really need that much. Would now, I'm not saying everyone's too jump on a kidogenic fast and only eat one meal a day. No, but it's this a really good way to think about it. If if a person who I'm actually pretty active, and I went for two walks and you know whatever, we have five K's, I'm sure within the five case right, makes me you wonder if I can do all that and not have to consume threezero calories. Is it possible that I just, you know, only eat three meals a day and are at a decent portion, instead of stuffing my mouth and continuously eating every time I get bored and with cans of Bend and Jerry's and cans of beers there and then you eat some chocolate and then you eat some peace, and then there's snacks and then, you know, we have a stacking culture. Everyone is always snacking and you know it's a little lead. The most used tinder word on tender is I love chicken nuggets and snacks and chicken nuggets. Is it really? Fuck yeah, it's not. Nuggets. What the fuck's going on with us? Why do we need to eat so much do we live? SOCLE is tasty. Well, fuck you, you know, it's who gives a shit of his taste. Work. Your own issues are because if you don't discipline yourself, live, eat to live, not live to eat. Is The real answer there? Yeah, most definitely, and there's heaps of psychological reasons why food has become that way. And you know, the more you eat poorly, the more you have to eat in order to fill that void. And there's just a continuous roll on effect of bad food. And there's not a lot of nutrients that are in processed foods and foods with a lot of salt additives in them, that sort of thing, because they just made purely for taste. And again that's going into industry and fast food chains and kind of kind of wrapping that up a little bit there too. So it's a deep it's a deep dark web a little bit, but it's also it's things that we need to know. Like you can pretend you can, I mean if you're not interested in not interested, but at the end of the day these are things that are going to be important to not just now but the future, and I mean even in, for example, covid like the people that were most negatively affected by the disease were the ones that had underlying health conditions such as diabetes and heart conditions and liver disease and diabetes. I just said, Diabet is enough, type two and one. But yeah, these conditions that a cause by poor and nutrition. We all don't need to be, you know, ty too friendly and, you know, vegans and that sort of thing. We can, we can just eat regularly, but it just be conscious of that. It's pretally going to it's going to help your mental health and it's going to help you. It's interesting once you get into it and once you start to understand a little bit how that world works in that regard, you kind of get to know a bit more about it. It's it is. It is quite intriguing. So hopefully we've sort of opened your eyes a little bit on that. Certainly check out that documentary. What is it? The planet. We our planet. Let Me Mind David Addenburgh and he need because he particularly contacted us to tell us to yeah, that's right. He's giving us a little a little shout out, little kick kick out. You know, for every viewer that goes every listen, they listener that goes on to woe. The documentary we get a kick back up again. It's all the sad chicken nuggets. No, all right, so the documentary is cool. And on that side note, if you are still scared of red meat because you...

...watch game changes, just look up. Lane Norton debunks game changes. That will little change if he's just a little bit. It is called our planet. Don't know what it's called because not showing up. I think it's cool. Our Planet, but our planet? Maybe he's yeah, I'll plan. I think that's what it's called. Just look up, do it at Bro they'll do actually, maybe let me just check Netflix. That might be easier. Yeah, now I see us two seconds. Okay, even David Adam brought a life on our plant life on our planet. There we go. Man, he looks great for his age. He's eating. Well, I might. He's not eating MAC has every day. I'll say that much, a hundred percent. He's not. So if you're eating maccas all the time, fuck you, as Isaac Butter would put it. Put It fuck you to the moon. I love that guy. So funny. It's great. It's great and I don't fuck. It is what it is, but yeah, the if you put shit, you know, if you put water into your car, it's going to die. If you put shit food into your body, you're probably going to die younger. Like that's the truth of it. That's the hard trip. Sometimes we need, you know, that's you know, you sometimes it doesn't need to be sugar coated. Literally, we need less sugar coating of our foods. All right, one hundred percent, let's sugarcoating, and that's why we not going to sugarcoat this. And that sounds like a that sounds like a little good rent. I think will should probably quit a podcast here, because it is about two clock over to two o'clock. Yeah, that's a light. It's about a clock forward to one or seven. Yeah, so you guys. Yeah, I like Saving Standard Vicki might. Yes, how could it? stylight savings a a lot of people. For whatever reason. I like. I don't really like the you know, like you lose an hour of sleep, so I for coffin there. You lose an hour of sleep for one day or gets dark a bit better. Broke The sun going down at thirty. Living near the beach, it's sort of Nice because you can go the beach, but later. I love Dayla's having smart I feel it's summer's coming. It's just something fucking pure and beautiful about it. And let's US know that the clock is still taken and you know, we've gone through a tough of you, but we're still here, baby, we're still swinging that accent. And Yeah, if you've made it through this part of the podcast, we really appreciate it. We've given you a fair bit of information there, but we hope you guys enjoyed it. And any final thoughts, they're my friend. I think that's it. That's that's absolutely it. Discipline More to be coming from us. Be hearing more from us, more episodes and more structured things from us. More gone was, more structured, gone dead, more structured contenter. That will be coming from us. Thank you so much for listening. It has been a beautiful podcast. Thank you so much. Looking. I'll let you wrap up. Yeah, I know where it's my pleasure. It's we appreciate it. Guys gives us a thumbs up, give us a like, give us a subscribe on any channel, any all channel, on the socials, on the podcasting APPS. We really appreciate it. Google also likes us to and they give us a little shouted on the algorithm as well, so we are really appreciate that. We love you all. At the end of the day, we love you all and any or anything we do say is based on that love to. So this is been the clever dumies podcast. We're out.

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