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Episode 20 · 1 year ago

The CDP // Ep20: More, more & More

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In this episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast , We talk about consuming and our need to want more and more.

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...it it itually feels like a lifetimeaway. RELIKE 'CAUSE! I can't like just like any any experience. You have youcan't quite re. You can remember kind of how Youre e feeling a little bit,but you can't remember the experience, an h, emotions you were going through,so it feels like it was a long time ago, but it was only what three months it'sbeen a really farst three months and that's kindo been the Weid spot. We'vebee all been in a little bit right like it's. You know October ninth todaybother and it's like, usually people. I had someone at work. Tell me's, likeusually people this time of year, like no Christmas is round in the corner.Back this s going so far like you know, where's the year going what's going,this yearone's like I can bring it on. Let's get it, let's get likeat twentytherty one bae, that's ow, yea t interesting, though this year,despite it's despite the events that has haveoccurred during this year, this year has still s gone by very fast, at least that's what it feels like. So it's been aa year and a half, it's been basically, let's coll thisyear years of lessen lessons learnt ite years, and you know some new experience.No, you am obviously had a andtheni is yet a brilliant experiences know. Iprobably I got to know myself a L, more still sort of found like attleequalybrium into my mental spaces. Well, you know where one of the biggestdevelopment that I made was I used to do things at a very high level, INAcense, where I was always just bouncing off the walls. During this times Ilearned to do the things even when I was feeling like shape, didn't feelmotivated and I still got thos things done, and I think that was somethingthat I was very proud of, because I knew it was like it has to be done. Soit's been a very, very educational year and there's a lot tolearn and there's a lot that has been taught and then there's one thing I cansay about this year that has taught as- and this is kind of t this potcastedthis well, you know we all need need each other, which is super importance. We nee notnecessarily rely on each other, but we do need each other, which is also whatI was saying. This port cat has been actually aspable to my mental healthand obviously that goes to euloklan, not necessarily the PORTGASS's Momeliaand a creation of ours. But you know so that's Wa, I'm saying so. It's beennice to chatting to you where it's been really good for my mental health, tokind of have something to look forward to and every time I would do thisportcast iw. I would have a momentum bill Dow er just bons to continue orcome away from it. It's weedly therapeutic too, like ieme Joe Reagan,said this a long time ago is like the best thing about a pod cassis like intoday's really fast pace. You Know Day and age like you, really get to sitdown and have a real conversation with soon for an hour or two hours or, however long it is, and actually justhave, uninterrupted, like not check your phone not have any outsideSemilisan just be focused on the other person. You know e. We obviously haveto do this through m through ENCASTA through zoom. Essentially, but it's youknow it's it's oldly enough, the more you do it the more it feels like we'retogether. Like you know, it's just like just like anything, you know you kindof get used to it and it feels like we're connecting every time, and youknow those thoughts. The things that we talk about and used to happen in radioas well. It was like the light like you'd, be worried about, like o N. am Igoing to say, am I going to have anything to say, but when t when thecamera's Rollanbroa, when that record, bute an isplaying, the pressure buildsand you you just start talking and what happens when you start talking when youKindo, don't know what to say. Is You just speak from the heart right and Ithink that's the most therapeutic beautiful thing about it and it'sactually something that we all need more of, and it it's not always easy todo like it is hard to even to your closest friends like you know, howoften do you ask someone like or how you gone, yeah good, Min, Howsyo Dainlike know, what do you talk? We don't actually care like how are you actuallygoing? So it's just a beautiful vehicle for that and I think that's probablybeen kindof the best thing about. It is that's the avenue that that has kind ofcreated for us, and I love nwill, do this forever, because thatreason, like you know, we we're very much. You know we're productive people and welike to have our set thing and this time and that time- and I think thisworks best when we just we go when we can and we go and we do and we justFuckin W, we haven't- had a bad episode Broet to be hones. Like N, we don'twant to Tuor own horn here. You know I'm sure there's been some better thanothers, but we're just ripping every time and the fact that we always feelbetter afterwards is testimony to that. I reckon and all the fadback withgotton Um has been sort of you're saying the same thing right so yeah,very good, very good. That's how one tens our first little plug on ourselvesand a little powder of the back, sometimes I's good onabeing too hort onyourself, sometimes good to touch. I ie Yo. Very Nice ittle Chi, too corner'cause. We had conner on the last episode and his mum was listening tothe port. Gaso nort is Awso and you...

...know she read. Throu nowshe found Eurwa her way to my website. I think she'd rend some of our stuff as well and o.She was just saying it's. It's a great episode to O, which, which was this is what it's all about. Buildingthis other community, which is alsom sory, it's Gret tawesome. So that's alittle pat in the back. It's funny Ingis make. I knew he was going to be agood dude because you guys live together, and you know you've met someof my friends that I've met outside of con of our life together back in Sydney,and you know kind of Outkit of school, which is W, was our big friendship base,but because we always look for that same similar type of person like I feellike I've known Connar for years. Like you know, we chatted to him on the podcast. It took about two minutes to break that little bit of Kindounderstand how we talk, and it's just like, I feel, like I' e know, I'veknown him since I was a kid and I'm sure you feel the same way. It's justsuch as I really I share on IA love, Yot, Bu, Shalow, contor, and it'sreally interesting is because the kind of friends they end up picking isbecause you kind of know it's interesting because Um those kind of friends that kind of Ou kw look beyond then what just is of the you know of normally what the Datetatasociety lives in and they th Theye. Very few people like that, and youoften find that if you are one of those people, you very quickly connect withthose people, because there's no pution about talking about yere how's theweather today, because that's something that people still generally talk about.You know Um so which which is interesting, yeah yeah, quick little chats like if you goto the coffee shop or you go to the news. Enty Youll petral station, likeOh hows, Agon Oi. If I cul nother call die by NOA OT die, it's likeit iswhatts, you know that's if you're goingto cut atagin a connect but yeahyou can feel like you can talk to him about kind of anything and everything,and he actually cares- and I think that's kind of a big part of you know.Our best friends have always been that way. We actually care about each otherand I think that's w kind of getting out there like this real value to thatyou're. Not just another person that you know it's. You KNO exteycoleonethat you're trying to build a connection with. Then you have aconnection with so yeah. I think that's a big part of it. That's exactly right! Now, Cornintin in Victoria, still on fullblast, yehbthe numbers are going down. We are no longer in looking good to myit's been being on a nice, steady decline for quite quite a while. It'sreally nice to say that you know kind of the pressure up at various paces has slowly started toease, and you know, obviously, if you're, not in that experience day byday, you can really only imagine what it's like, but at least it's good tosee that it's any on the right direction. Ill. Take the small win, ell, that's exactly H, we'll take thesmall wins win, because it's it something is happening and who knowsabout Whota who rop in the other side. That of this would have been and whowould you know, look there's a whole episode which I feel like. We probablyhave grewing up inhere talking about t e, the cobet that was or you kN w theyear that yea Institut e Air H and we coald Ogo into all that and kind ofgoing to the conspiracies of it. But I think just a touch on that. I I I don't know. I no longer really knowwhere my stance is wh. What I think about it, but I do there is one thingthat I want her o bring up, and I totally forgot to mention to mentionthat to you in our preplanning meeting there w believe it or not. We havethoert very formof the things Veralo, so one of the things that I wastalking about- and I think I briefly touched on these before and it said ththe government is talking about using data modeling that include chance,which kind of weed me out because you chance cannot be calculated. So whenyou go hey, there's a chance that what kind of confused me because someone whois working Dara, that kind of like computer environment,you know, I know that chance cannot be calculated. So that's something that Ihad kind of a weird question about that fact that everyone just said yeah right,we'll just take it for what it is. My biggest concern with the society that Isaw in Mictoria was that, however, how how everyone was just okay wit, what itwas don't get me wrong. They need to follow the rules that everyone did,because it's a testiment to what needit to be done, because the number is not.However, the fact that no one questionedanything at the act that people are wearing mask, while they're driving Olby themselves is kind of problematic ctos to MES cause. Wal societyis likeactually Damband they'll, just do anything that anyone tells them and tokind o interrupt a little bit just a question. I think there's little bit oflike an issue that I found with it is like the government is like I theyalmost seem like. They don't want to admit that they don't know what to do,because this is, you know, kind ofve, first of its kind, or at least it hashappened before a long time ago, and they might have had emergecy plans inplace and whatever else, but they almost like. I almost felt it wouldhave been better if they ha d come out and said you know, and- and they mayhave done it in various loose forms but...

...kind of brought everyone in and it'slike. You know, we kind of need your help. W We really need your help withthis thing. You know we're ot, we're not going to force anything on you, butwe need to work together. obvously, it's not just here. We do do all this,but it's like we. This thing is changing every day and we need you knowsome days we're going to predict these things and p some days. We're not likewhat we knew a few things that got proven wrong, like just even in termsof the ability for the virus and we've already opened up the can of worms. Wenot going to go into it too deep and we don't want to harp on the negative toomuch we want to keep it up, beat we're definitely going to save a full podcast for it, but you know at first this vireas spread really quickly in the airand they found that it was actually you know this is. This is all Harvard anStanford like these are all studies. You can look upline that I've gonethrough, it's actually more of a surface disease, so it doesn't actuallytrains like it doesn't actually transfer so much in the year arm. Soeven a master, a good idea for people that have underlying health conditions.It's l lessens their chance of getting it. It's actually not how it's reallybeing spread the same with a symptematic people. So if you don'thave symptoms at first, they said you can still transmit the disease or theyknow now sothink some rate of like ninety eigh percent of cases were non asymtomatic, so essentially people that got sick so that didn't work too. Theyshut down scores because they're worried about kids spreading it wor. Itturns out that people of really young age actually aren getting this thing,because their body hasn't developed to a stage H. This thing just passesthrough all they don't even get it, which is really interesting as well,but we never got any of this information wh. We got told the thingswe needed to do and whatever else, but when the information changed, there wasno mention of it, and you know it definitely. KINDOF goes back to. Itgoes back to a lot of things, but in acceptance for the like, ladies or authority, to admit whenthey're wrong and like in many you're wrong is not a bad thing. It. Itactually just shows maturity, and it shows that you're actually wanting toresolve this thing. So I think that's that's where the the Warri is reallystarting to brew from that is, like Thare hasn't been anything there hasn'tbeen any of that and if you know, if you're doing the wrong thing, if you'renot wearing a mask, if you're not isolating like your a bad person, ifyou get this thing, then you're a bad person, that's just really fear, drivenand obviously the media is a big part and a blame to that as well. But it thethe willingness and that's all kind of led to people now, just being so overthe thing that they're just willing to accept what I is just get it away justpuck it off. You know: Welwell do whatever we need to, and really weactually don't need to anymore. This thing is not actually as deadly as Umas we thought it was going to be and Um like sure there there was a report tcayabout the cases spiking in France, but the deaths hade never been lower, liket the deaths are actually across the board across the world, have gottenlower and M it. It just is really concerning in that regard, how it'svery much a authoriteritive, a, not democratic, wave dealing with thingsit's very much authoritaritive. This is how it's going to be. You have to dothis and you have to do that when really men like legally none of thesethings t are really shouldn't have been done like you can't stop peoplepracticing religion freely. You can't stop people protesting like all thesethings that they were arresting people for protesting. This thing, men that Ima our most basic human right, is to protest. The government, that's why wehave a democracy, because if we feel the government's not doing the rightthing by us, we have the right to protest it. So all these little thingshave led- and you were very much you know- I don't say we weren't oppositein our opinions, but you were very you know. You were very fair andunderstandable that this is appendemic. We have to be careful. We have tosacrifice and to hear you kind of particulate, a different way, nowsalmost showing to me- and I know the type of person you are like this thingis gotten way out of hand, and it's really turning to someing gets uh. Turning the on O get a lot uglier thanthe actual virus itself and th. What is owing to people and the way people youknow deal with each other, the the spite andthe anger and everything else. It's just justsfallen off the wagon you'R, the mark ther. Now these fewthings I would like to point out- and I still stand with the fact that thisthis is and was a global pendamic that needs to be my ellepale with the mostof most of the delicate, cautious cautiousness right caution and to howwe deal with it. It's going to really define I how we move forward, becauseit's not just about the disease, this particular disease. It's also about thedisease. That's going to come the next disease, that's going to come. Theproblem is, is always we always have to remember. These pendamic would havenever happened ten years ago, because people didn't trouble. The word likethey do now. People the global borers word as clean as they are now. Thewalls are so small. So that's something to really keep in mind. So this thisparticular Pandamac is not an isolated incent instant. So that's. Why that'swhat my con? 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...in. They are right and wrong way to do itwight. So, in regards to the protest Intega to the protest, I was, I wassitting on the hysit Te. Well. First of all, I guess they Ha. Yes, they havethe right to do it, but then again, this is probabbe the reason that 'sgoing to cause the sky, l a spike. So there's like so many things to consider.However, there is one thing I would like to mention about: The government.The government should have come out said hey. This is a new chatostrophythat we have never dealt with yee'saltogether as a nation, in fact,as a global nation as eartlings and deal with his the government. SHULDgovernments should h come together, but thedin what they did was make up wordsthat they randomly picked up from the DITIONARY Thehada Road Map. This, soyou know it's it's like putting up from Nowin to stop the spray thesothat. Theythey antiguously made up this world of saying that you know, for example,which Orin government is using this world of lock down. You know isolationand social DISTANCI, which is always the word that I talked about that Ididn't like, particularly because the colnotation that it caly carriedbecause you gowas going Ta, remember especially when you start talking aboutAr commnitive discenants in that kind of psychology, psychological round thekind of power that particular words carry and that nop neuralisticprogramming effect that those certain words can have 'cause. When you saysocial distancing, it actually really feels that: U Okaywell, I'm sociallydistancing Soi'm e, going to my little bubble and th yeah that thing likebubble, so everyone was literally mentally in their bubbles of like Immissing my o bubble in my feetal position on my bed. That is the problem.The problem is not the fact that you know we said Hey. We had to bee eloc onthe problem. Was Scott Morrison saying that he will wait to see what theVictoriam Premie does in regard to in regards to opening up in regards to extending the jobkeeper,the heat left a whole state to dry because based Ron politics, that was anissue. What was an issue that Anan didn't consider? What was going tohappen to all the people whose job keepers who was going to get cut and he continued on any way withoutactually even talking about it? What he said was that asn't that WASN'n hisplace talk about it. What do you mean? That's now your place, that's where youneed to talk about it. You can Holdin this press coce s in e Tayand, ow yeah,you at least discuss your job here is to assure people not be a negative netevery day, and I, like an intrest, that's the problem. I like him, I thinkhe's done seems like a stand up. Car Yeah, heseems like a STANDDYP guy and I want to say he's done a decent job B, which hehas right, which he has because the way we were going, the numbers weremultiplying and there's no way to deny that right. However, something at he's done poorly,but then again he's a human, so cam before given same thing, the pourprimis done some things poorly and I presume every government made missexthe same thing with trump ma. Huge mistakes, and recently he got copy.Ninetein has O, which is kind of Hilarious, also, and then he go ierstriht away. I also go over and staiaway. I do want to add a nohowmedia. Everyone was jumping up and down and saying es so glad that trump cotcobinitier that's kind of really rubbish. Why do you? Why do you treatanother human like that, regardless ofyea yeah, it's very much as versus them?It's a tea mentality, an and politicsis replaced religion in or at leastideology in a lot of people's lives, so people are so politically focussed enforced and almost like it'san identity now ke which side of the fency one like my ttwheltwo, twothere's two wings of the same bird. At the same day like we shouldn't be theleft versus the ride. It's not fucking. The paradet e was playing the fuck andballdogs its bloody. It's were all human beings like at the end of the day.You can believe in you know, that's a beaurtful thing about a democracy youcan have both. You know both sides of the argument. You know lean. One wayyou go the other little bit more conservative. A little bit moreristaking willing to take a rist, then we come somewhere in the middle, but itbecame, as you mentioned before, Scottmerrison a liberal representativeDan injers, a Labor representative, and and obviously we can. We can harp or onabout that. Don't know too much about politics indepth to really go deep there, what we do know and what we have beaten: ToaDead Horses, the media and kind of the fear driven. You know the ravings thatthey've gotten off this thing and now two things all quickly finished andthen I'll be done because we do want us kind, O, save this and go and go anddeeper and and not sort of just brush over it. He o really on a Harperon. Wealready have a hundred percent. First thing is Um. First thing is: You know h how many wesaw a heap of new stories, everyday new stories about new cases here, peoplegetting sick people, all that sort of thing, things that need to be covered.How many? How many stories have you heard about the alternative d? Do Weknow that over? Like ninety nine point, four percent of people recovered fromthis thing and there's heaps of people that have beaten this thing. Not Onestory on that, like what the Hell's...

...going on there and and second thing,which is the one that's kind o just shows how paper thin and Lickan shitthe medias become sorry to use that friendshit just is what it is now thatnow, because the the the virus is tarting to donidle out in Australia,which is a beautufl thing now that they're harping on all the greatrecession to follow how you know this is the biggest budget since World War,two. How are we going to recover and that negativity just goes intosomewhere else now it is, it is just Putri it is. It is just US suff meol,the idea anywhere. I had to say that a and I sent Wa o in regard to the budgetthat will probably take us into our next topic Um. I do, however, do Wana say just quickly on that in Regesto,the media Rigt Meya, didn't petrayd t at there was so much fake news that wasgoing around doing this whole pedemic still is in regards to. I don't know ifyou remember, I think we spoke about this, and there was there was influxinsucides turns out, and I said it too and I'mmilly to admit. I fell into the same trap and I said: Hey there's anincrease in suicides anow that was wron media just played on certain words andwent on a particular thing. There was no pigs turns out. chronowize doesn'tcause suicide. Obviously I agree that it has been very tough for people it itprobably ECAUSE. Most people isprobably the hardest. Ime still yet to really understand the ramifications. Ithink it's going to Ye h, particularly for people that have lost businessesand- and you know way alive. I think it's still, but no you're right likethat. If you look at the statistics, it actually hasn't, people have sort ofcome together in that regard, like small communities have been built andonline communities have been built and Yeah Yeh. So just just a quite just a littlepluck to you. So you know what kind of power the social media carries and Um. This is interesting that theyretheydon't really care what Theys spread. So That's interesting and I've always beenhere this men wil now this in any other line of work like if you make a mistake,like you, have to be accountable for that mistake, ppartipeople ingovernment and people in the media, which is ultimately you know, t meantto be the fifth wing of Younmento keep everyone in check this release story that was actuallyincorrected Idnto any hard good work at all. You just ran with a story that wasessentially click bait and there's no ramification at all for it. It's just along on x when there's no, like hey, sorry, guys, werl wrong we're trying todo the right thing. Let's move on, but no it's just. Let's keep marching thisdram and yeah. It's definitely one of those things we can harp on forever andwhatever Os, but that doesn't matter because we're just saying it as it is-and I feel like that's ou position in podcasting in this realm, as we don'thave to be by partisan to any side of the the the political sphere or anyside of political correctness or any sode of the the essential he medialandscape. That Hezix nowadays and you know the ent. Almost the entire mediais based off Um base off fear because that's the onlyweapon they have now to keep the ball rolland keep the people watching islike, apart from that, what are they going to talk about bloody old Jany van?Am That's Struckin, wit, drought, t a you know it's just. I is that's exactlyAli stuff look. Obviously there are some things in life that are difficultand media can may report on them and they need to keep the news interesting,Ilish, an Te Shor butactll. I don't want him to go away like yeah. We don'ther to go a, we don't they're doing a job, but that needs to be done. Atleast I don't want Ta, I don't want to wake up in the morning and go see DanEndes every single day. You know S Glady, Lo Wan, to be there either. Youcan see he's Wy rd Stan the poor, fanand eer checked, O ip o Chek up check, Aso thereis a lot happening there, but Ithink thes needs EFIES, ritection mesures. I think on this portcast, butI do want to say I think my concept has always been. I feel like you and I bothand this port cas what itstands Wel we respect people we re. We respect thatdanger of society, that life can be depressing, life can be scary and thereare inequalities. inhurently and sufferingis inherent master. Ali suffering is inherent so Bilin to acknowledgeeverything, and I think, however, there are certain things that we all need tobe aware of that. That's what Wewall we talk about is the fact that somethings always seem worse. They mayseem worse than they actually are. Life. Exxolf is very beautiful. We are L,we're lucky enough to live on this. Absolutely beautiful planet thatsomehow managers to support this entire life and seven Brillian people and allthese animals and everything under the sun and literally and the Sun Righthere k. most of us are lucky enough to wake up with eyes, and I say most of US'cause. I understand there are people out there who are not lucky Ao. Youknow unfyouknow, unfortunately, enough C,unfortunately can't see and like Thats...

Im'm saying so. Ther is a lot to begrateful for Um, and a lot to be upset about is supportall about what you're going to choose to see when you open your two beautifuleyes that you have as a gift every morning. I just remember what You'e Gon,what you're going to see is the question Yeh just to a little Selfhordat sometimes and count the blessings you do have and I think we're going tothat's a perfect sage way into what we really the meet in vegawhat. We want usto get into this episode, but I guess one last thought here is we go up we'regoing to make a really great episode on kind of what we believe is really goingon behind the scenes of kind of the world we're living in right now, and we definitely need to do ourresearch as well, because we're probably going to make some prettypretty big claims and we're going to have to probably that's going to be agreat episode. It's probably you know it's kind of a main purpose like a bigpurpose. Based episode like this is actually you know part of what we'remeant to be doing right now is telling it the way it is so stat ton for that.That's going to be coming really soon, but my wegon up we're going to have to.I can pull the C en Nin and o look forward to that. That's exactly! I H,and I think one thing that I want to promise to the PORTCASS and to us is,as obviously people who are listening in and its winos well, we have slowlyworked wards becoming this more pro. Borkwas becoming a more a portcast thatis actually you know accessible, and you know it's a little bit professional.You know we are ou available on portcast. We have a beautiful websiteand all that stuff right, and I think one thing that I would like to pledgeto is actually Havg more structure and research base, um arguments and topicas whalso. I think, which will be the next step, particularly when we'retalking about a topic like that and we're making big claims O. I thinkthat's going to be a good research, Anit Yeah. We want the truth to be theheart of everything. So, in order to get to the truth, you can't just makethings up and gift to the Gab and Talk Shit and we're still going to do that,but yeah when, when push comes to shove, it's definitely on ous an on everyoneto just dig a little bit and get into it. So I love it very good sons, welltalking about th yeah, not talking about the budget right so in the budget,as we are aware, a lot of the alocation of particular that in particular, thandparticular funds that were, I said so many particulars there Um, the funds that have been allogated inthe budget has been is going towards gas companies and climate. In regards to climate change,the Taal word came up in the budget once which is interesting to start. Thisnext particular topic that we're talking about. I love the word as e oword of the day, particular Butiguaot talk about this one particulardocumentary that Ie seen today, which is Davi Embra's new documentary that cameout on Um Netlix, my man's ninety eight years oldand stil do in the danting. We all know the Great David Innebrafrom the the wide landscapes of Africa R, allthe deep dark webs of the Pacific Ocean. My Bat he's made before year, ine M,he's still in ther on his moneyis e Dold Bridbans Avery, each so he's doingwell, man how I wonder how many boody Um Tocos he's pumped out my man. My mencan put up a fight, that's for sure he can put up a fight. I mean he's beendoing it for almost a century. Let's think about that. For us yeah, that'scrazy! Almost a hundred years and y know his voice is strong as ever thethe just talks and et makes you feel better about it. The thing about theWildis whyis hi, not on that Leddy. What'sthat's not we what's the other, a meditation. Why is he not narm he's not,I think, he's alays on calms o Rs, all that Eis on it. Um People are going to court me on it, butI think nepect CHEC. I have treated on my reorngindor. Maybe that might be theway we wa O produciber, any Westterris Um. So inthis documentary is about the event, that's being probably thetopic of the past two decades or at least this decade, to say the least,which is climate change and global walming that perdicular Scnar you now I saw thedocumentary and I was very touched 'cause. There were some facts ofpiggures in there that really hit home. There's a lot to talk about Tays. Youknow he talked about. Obviously consumption of over consumption ofanimals or consumption of fish and a like. You know, people people huntinganimals for for no particular reason and and the general kind of damage thatwe do to t earth, because Hemans do do...

...that M. it's one of those topics that so manypeople have different views about and different people have different agendas.So it's hard to go. This is where this is what the truth is. So I don't knowwhat the truth is, but herehereis where I stand sa, I'm going to discuss where I standand what the documentary was well, the documentary. Obviously he talks aboutmostly about over consumption but wher the planet used to be and where theplanet is now. Then how the global population is going to flatten outwhich I'sgoing to I think, roughly in the next thirty years, Orso the globalpopulation is going to hit its Piq. So that means from ther anmod is Gonta. Goon a little bit of a flat line to kind of a downwods. I think they call it anegative opulation groth. So were basically we. So I think Japan is alsogoing through that right now that there was more tlances than s right yeah. SoJapan is going to a negative populition God, so they actually their population actually dropped forthe last fifty years. So I can actually tell you the exact population. What wasthe name of a documentary mignt? Let me have a look yeatifmaybe. I Owatchin toarmitry called life on planet earth. Yet liely, like anoxn Bri M in Japan at a Japance population, is o in NeThousand Nine hundred and ninety Japan's populathion wars, Ione Thosanine, hundre and n six TPApopulation was hundred twenty five million and today sorry Inintomadat in two thousand andnine Japan's population was oneone hundred nd twerty, eight millions andas of today, it's an hundred and one one s get there. Youl get Thi Ecracting, either e AMS, miwhe wer.According Li, that's all good kids, a gry two thousand and ten Japan's populationwas hundred and twenty eight million Yeh. As of the latest figures of TNTY,twenty Jap Japans population is hundred twenty six million, so that's almost adegree. O Two million two hundred million peoplem two mallion years is about two, his name roughly yeah. So as for obviouslykeeping mind, that's a population decrease which is or quite of a is avery new phenomena. That's ginna Comin to the wordor, which does mean thatgood for our environment, because we're going to stop consuming as much as wedo now theris these counterarguments that which we will get into an thinklocknow Le You get into that an however I my thing that I want to sayis: I agree that we definitely at times over consume, especially things likeMcDonalds, not nearly necessity. We can definitely get rid of it. We can stophunting for the animals that we don't need to hunt for for a perfume or afucking Parada purse don't to ASPERADA. We Love Ot, only a JEK and Um. You know those kind of stuff that isjust not necessary and you would like it because, as as our modor society,this society driven by the consumer culture just wants andwants and Wat and demands. More is definitely an issue and we are talkingwith the Earth. However, however, I do think thereis also a flipsite to saySidewa. I think if we stop fucking around do move towards natural. Youknow if we stop doing the you know the fosofew electric power electrical city,power sohe's, the things that I feel like we could easily do, and that wouldprobably help the earth move away from the forst of Fuo. Go Away from the gasindustry e lectrical industry, move away from that and reduced unnecessaryUm. You know animal consumption, I think wull be pretty good. I think thiris hope for us ti. That's where I stand read the hall sitch. Did you want to gojust you? Kindo did explain what the documentary is about, but I guess maybegive a little bit of a preview of kind of the setting of it did he was heparticular on any part of the world, or was it just? Was it kind of an overviewof his life and how the worlds changed his lifespend? So he he basically talksabout the the forest he went to when he was fill started off as a broadcastretwenty years old and how those places used to look and how they look now, and also how the population has growngrown since then, since when he first started, and also how much how any malpopulation has decreased over the years as well, and how many wild lofe animalshave, you know, disappeared since then,...

...sothat was also kind of for, like aNice Testament to his life as to what has happened in his lifetime and thingsthat he's actually seen because he was talking about, he went to a particularplace where he met. I saw these particular tapenses. I think he was,and those exact places. Actually the the forest doesn't exist anymore,because tit's been divorce rise, so those kind of things um it's reallygoing to fall around his life is who you got from Likwhen visiting to Africain the beginning of, like you know, earlier dime, and so it's kind of likefollows a timeline of his life, also reflecting over the damage that hasincurred by the earth. Over the years is what kind of the documentary isabout. It's quite interesting actually quite interesting. It gets veryemotional at the time that, because he gets emotion so s, it's it'Syeah asgood as passionate to and he loves what he does and he b like you, you know he's not just he'snot a go like he's been doing it for so long he's not doing it for the money.So he's not going to be falsely led, but you know by by it like people thatare funding. The certain ly hopes she's not going to be falsee lived by peoplethat are fundling the documentaries and all that so that conflict of interestthey can come in those sort, Os thes when people are trying to prove a pointlike a really good m example of that was the the Vegan. It was the meateater IET, a drawr on that Flix Yeah Game Canger, so that one he waswhat was James Wilkes Jameswilkso. He was a foler Ma Ma fighter, a guy whowas you know pro meateater and then went to being a Vegan and brought upsome really good points. Kind of about the potential negative health effectsof what meat has you know on the human body, but very very he used a lot of statistics essentiallyand one of my one of my favorite kind ofonline personalities is a guy name: Um h La Norton, his a he was a biologist PhD N, you knowLefwright and se essentially knows more about the human body than you know.Ninety nine percent of the body people walk in the other and the essentiallyhad this really good uguve video. It's just called the game changes debunkedon you tobit goes for about forty minutes, it's a really good watch andhe he goes in pretty hard on James Wirks, like he's a pretty passionate gitoo. So he he sort of rips hi mopen a little bit and kind of the main thesisof that Ucivido, which is scientifically back t. He has otherstudies in there. He sort of prove that in that Um in that documentary, James Wilkes, youknow the the research that he used was very much focused on only one side ofthe argument and he didn't push through. You know C. He didn't even things outand try to come for the middle ground. It was just very biased and it's one ofthose things I'm not going to do justice by explaining it, but Um land,Ou and debunks game changes on UGIB. It's a really good video good watch andbasically he s. He talked about the the power that statistics actually play inresearch in the way that we do research, so statistical analysis whichessentially, when you gather a whole bunch of information, and you come toconclusions off this information, there's a certain type of daanalysiscalled quarnitative Dalonalysis for all the neds out there, the statistic nodesout there. That's essentially no that's essentially when you break down a lotof information and you try to come to resolutions off a whole bunch ofinformation, but you actually don't go into how the information was gatheredand you kindo come off K, ow, trying to create resolutions of that and Shejusvery flawed, and some of the claim you wereoond with a bodybuilding dotcom- isthat right, who's that Lenord yeah he's he's. Amazing man he's some of thestuff that he's got into like he's a natural bodybuilder. He won, he wonboth bodybuilding contests and so natural bodyng, millbuilding contestsand Pael lifing contest as well almost around the same time so I's just anabsolute absolute amazing like a really smart dude too, like a PhD holder, adoctor technically and also has the athletic prowess so's, a guy that youcan really respect and he sort of broke that down and kind of. What's leading me into that is m j,just a way that we look at certain typof statistics in that regard m a guynamed Rob Wolf, who I also listened to us. Well he's got a really good articleon Line Rob Woff with two bees. It's called reginative agriculture are wetalk? Are we walking the walk or talking the talk, and he esantuallygoes into Um kind of the way that Darda again is looked at and agriculture,which is essentially the growth and industry that is behind natural life,so behind vegetation behind meat and that sort of thing a lot of the times we talk about thecarbon footprint in this data that that's brought up about the carbonfootprint and the negative effects of you know: griving a lot of cattle andputting that through the industry, the negative effects that has on thissociety, but then actually outweighing that and Cini comparing it to like howmany people does it feed people get healthy and nutriciaus diets, and thatsort of thing. So it's important to...

...kind of look at it from both sides ofthe angles and I sort of gave you guys bitter information to look out there.But it's kind of both ends of the SPECTUMA. It's a good way to come to aconclusion anyway. So Rob Wolf, kind of goes into the kind of ways up almostwould be supporting. I think he wouldn't be anti. What what thedocumentary would be about? It's like the way that we're producing in the waythat We'are over consuming a lot of things in our life is is unhealthy likethere is, there is so much waste there are so many you know: Thos fast foodchains, there's so many ways that we are getting our food nowadays. That isreally not designed for our human life form wand. It's not sustainable,because because we're just you know in order, essentially in order to makelike a certain amount of Burgers at McDonald's, like the way that youprocess that compared to say going to the grocery store, is so differentbecause you think the amount of customers that are going throughMcDonalds and KF C and all these different things is just unnatural andthat's why the quality of the meat isn't very good. So if you know, if wepeeled back on that and if we ate grass fed beef like if we actually fundedthose industries, the way the earth works- and this is you know very bro-science cetific and I'm you know I'm kind of articulating what their apointwas. The way. The worlds actually design is its actually capable and ableto foster m our life in a sustainable way. We just can't be so aggressiveabout it. We just have to take it slow. We can't keep over consuming, keepputling so much to waste ripping through our oceans and over fishing. Ifwe do it at a certain point where big businessis aren't just coming in andtrying to make as much profit as possible, which is the nature ofbusiness, but doing it to a point just take as much as you need and that'sthat's a kind of a thesis you can live in life just take what you need no morethan this, this world, this beautiful world we live in well sustain us forthe rest of our lives, but it's that over consumption is that it's thatmgreed, that comes from big business and comes in factory farming Leke. Youhave to watch like one video of factory farming on you tube and like You'e,going to be Vegan for the rest of your life, because the way they do that O isrendous and most of that stuff is fast. Food chains broke because that's theother thing outside of supermarkets and holefod stores and those sort of places.That's the only way to get that to people and it's Um, it's it. It's sad man like it really is sad.I kind of egree that isovertaken the way we eat and you know just sort offeltit all throughout life. So essentially my little rent there acouple of things: They look at Rob, Wolf, Genitlca by Robolf and then, if you areinterested in the kind of the debunking of the game, changes which I am becauseI'm a passionate, anti vegan quite unquote, not so much in terms of yourchoice: People's Choice, a free choice to be Veguane, not at all, but it'smore so when you're claiming that, essentially what James Wilks did in thein the game, change of documentaries, he was saying that red meat and allthese different things are bad for you and that's kind of where he went at itfrom attack. And I want to be much on the side of what Ruwolf and what m youknow what was articulated by Edinburugh's, like you know, weekends,to stay in our life w. You know the world has a beautiful way of growing.As we are growing. We just can't be greed. We we need to regulate business.We need to make sure that we're not overintruming the things we reallydon't need, and not just if you even think about it from aproductive standpoint. Man, if you're having to breed x amount of cows and X,amount of lambs and goats and chickens, and all that sort of thing that y thelife span of these animals are not designed to do that. So it it really iskind of. It really is a bit of a Nacey look into that world, but it's also italso kind of lets us know that we can. Actually, we can do better in thatregard as well in it kind of filters back to. I guesshow previous this discussion a cobet like if we treat each other withrespect and we treat this world. We live with respect as our own, like asour own backyard, like what it really is like just because you live on thisPatcha dirt in Austrayaa, doesn't mean you know in India like Whi, it's not us.Obviously we don't live there, but at the same time it's all part of thismassive ecosystem and, if we're all a little bit less greedy in that regard,a little bit more understanding that you know we can have people that dothis and that piece of people are going to be vag and heaps of people are goingto be Meedat as heaps of people ar going to drink alkaline water heaps ofPeoper, whatever it is like, we can sustain all these beautiful differencesthat we have in society. It's just the you know it's it's really. The greed inthe industry that's taken over and they are also the ones that are polluting,like absolute savages as well they're, the ones that are burning through ourbloody Ozan layer and that sort of thing too. So, just as long as we remember that peoplethat eat meat and the farmers that are out there providing food for us,they're, not the ones in the wrong, it's these big organizations that don'tcare about farming correctly and giving land enough time to reproduce and relay,because that's the way the world works, they're just pumping it in get MorpoLiar in there spray the thing build it up inject these cows in the hormoneslike Getim Biggar, that's essential, they're doing, and it's making usunhealthy too. So Um bet, that's...

...exactly right. I think that's. Anotherbig thing to remember is to the fact that we need to do this for us and there's one thing that I would like topoint- and this is kind of more of like a personal health pointer view. We don't actually require as much afood as we consume, which, like one hundred percent like noone ne, so dothey. Why hoping tily has never been higher? THAT'S EXAC P! Today, right, Idid THA experiment siging yesterday, so last Mel I had yesterday was at seven pm right and thenext meal I had was today at six P m. So That's all I twenty four Hof askrequire fas. Oh washe was rop tong to our fast yea. Sorry, I gedroptle goingto our fast and Dring I and Y O. I had black coffees in themiddle and a little bit of Cokonand oil I fee, and then I anafter that I hadsome am eggs. You know basically with a little bit of Hiecat, which is coconutoil again, so I am strying to try Kida Jenic Diet, which is like killegenicclass. So I feel great. Like I mean this is roughly ithinkone m now I feelgreat. I I'm not hungry and I've been eating anything since then. I'm Gongtado the read same thing again tomorrow, as can be two days in a road. I don'tfeel hungry because I'm like, obviously you go. Oh well, I'm bored I'm going togo eat, but you don't really need that much wo. Now, I'm not saying everyoneshould jump on a kitogennic fast and only eat one meal a day. No, but isthis a really good way to think about it? If, if a person who I'm actuallypretty active- and I went for two warks- and you know whatever we have five KS,I'm sure within the five case- ri went- makes me wonder if I can do all thatand not have to consume three thousand calories. Is it possible that I justyou know, only eat three meals a day and an and a decent portion instead ofstuffing my mouth and contimually eating every time I get bored and withcans of Bend and jerries and Cens of Beers there, and then you eat somechocolate, and then you eat some peece and then there's snacks and then younow we have a stacking culture, everyoneis always snacking, and youknow it's literally the most used tinder word or tenders. I love chickennuggets and snacks and chicken nuget. Is it Reallyyeah ewhat the fock's going on with us? Whydo we need to eat so much? Do we live Tao is tasty, O Faqu. You know it's who gives a Shill F its tasty. Youwork your own issues out, because, if you can't discipline yourself live eatto live, not live to eat is the real answer. There yeah most definitly inthere's thers heaps of psychological reasons why food has become that way,and you know the more you eat poorly the more you have to wait in order tofeel that void and hit's, just a continuous role on effect of bad foodand there's not a lot of nutrients that are in process, foods and foods with alot of salt additives in them. That sort of thing, because they're justmade purely for taste again, that's going into industry and fast foodchains and Kindo kind of wrapping that up a little bit there too. So it's it'sa deep, it's a deep dark web a little bit, but it's also it's things that weneed to know like you can pretend you can. I mean if you're not interestedyou're, not interested, but at the in day. These are things that are going tobe important to not just now, but the future, and I mean even in, for example,cove like the people that were most negatively affected by the diseas Wote,the ones that had underlying health conditions such as diabetes and heartconditions and livid disease. An and Diabete just said, diabeters enou type,two in one but yeah these conditions that are caused by no poor nutrition.We all don't need to be. You know, Kito friendly, an you know, vegans and thatsort of thing wekend we can just eat regularly, but just be conscious of that. It's preallyGonn it's going to help you mental health and it's going to help you it's it's interesting. Once you getinto it and once you start to understand a little bit how that worldworks in that regard, you kindo get to know a bit more about it. T's. It is.It is quite intriguing, so, hopefully, we've sort of opened your eyes a littlebit on that Im, certainly check out that documentary m. What is it the planet? We our planet, Lilind, Navo Edinbragh andhe new, because he he particularly contacted us to tell us o. that's right,he's he's giving us a little sh that little kick G Ott. You know for every viewer that goesevery Lissen that glistener that goes on to watch a documentary on get a kickback. Alli go chicken egets! No, so the documentary is coll,...

...an onside Nigt if you are still scaredof red meat, because you watch game changers, just look up at lay Noutondebanks game changes, that'll thet'll change. If y just a little bit is cold Aurplan. I don't know what it'sC: It's not showing up. I think it's g our planet, but our planer, maybe he'syea outplan. I think that's what I's called just look up: diid Anan Broelter!Actually, maybe let me just check Ani flics that might be easier yeah. Now I give us two seconds: H: OkyEv, David Edinburgh, a life on our plane, life on our planet. There we goman, he looks great for his age. He's eaten wellmit he's not eating macesevery day, I'll, say Y, that much hundred percent he's not so, if you'reeating baccus all the time, fuck you, whereas your eyes put it, put it Fak Ou to the moon. Ilove that guy, so o Isgeanagan fakiit is what it is, but Um yeah the if you put ship you know if you putwater into your car, it's going to die. If you put shipfood into yourbody,you're, probably going to die younger, like that's the truth of it, that's thehard trt. Sometimes we need you know. That's you know. Sometimes H doesn't need tobe sugar coded literally. We need less sugar coding of our foods or one hundred percent less sho recorling,and we not goingto shookco this and Um. That sounds like that sounds like alittle good rent. I think, should probably report US here because it isabout to cock over to two o'clock. Yehe, that's a lie. It's about o'clock overtwo one or seven. Yet so you guys here and I like saving, stand and Viky mightyes, how could I stall at savings say a lot of people, for whatever reason arelike I din't really like the the you know, like you lose an hour, ofsleep sofocoffin there you lose an hour ofsleep for one day or it gets dark of it.Later Rothe, Sun, going down at seven seven thirty living near the beach,it's sort of Nice 'cause. You can go o the beachbut later I love DaylisHamingsman. I feeli somers comand, it's just something fucking, pure andbeautiful about it, and I lets us know that the the clock is still tickin andyou know we've going through a tough year, but we're still here baby we'restill swinging that ax and and yeah. If you've made it through this part of thePODCASS. We really appreciate it. We've, given you a fevidive information there,but m. We hope you guys enjoyed it and any finof forts say my friend. I think that's it! That's that's!Absolutely a disciplinig move to becoming from US behaing more from usmore episode and more structured things from us. Moon was themore structed content, more structured, contented that will becoming from US Thaing. So much for listening. It has been a beautifulportathink, its so much Lokin O Li. You Rap puby lie nowhereis Manin pleasres.We appreciate it guys gives us a thumbs up, give us a like Iv us a subscribe onany channel any or channel on the socials on the podcasting APPS. Wereally appreciate it. Google also likes US too, and they give us a littlechatted on the AGORITM as well. So weare really appreciate that we loveyou all at the onther day. We love you all when any or anything we do say isis based on that lab too. So this has been the cluver dummies, podcastwhereout.

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