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Welcome back to another episode of the Clever Dummies Podcast. In this episode we dig deep and talk about the craziness of 2019!! 

Aneeqe A. Khan & Lachlan Inwood

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Thank you once again for joining us forthis simate episode, tweny three of the cloverdummies podcast and just like theGreat Tailor Swift, twenty two may have been the pinnacle,see how we go from there. But let's see if we could shift the trade just alittle bit. I am locky as always joined by a nick, always just a pleasure totalk to you. How are you going tonight? My friend I'm great, it's a pleasure totalk to you as well, just as always, it's brilliant to be here doing thispodcast with you just the highlight of the week. You know just just thatfeeling of getting up and you know doing some talking yeah, it's nothingquite like a mad, and I agree it is certainly a real highlight of theweekend. Would you agree with that sentiment? You know that that after thetwenty two album, she just could quite figure it out. She just went too deepor what Dore we think I something she's Co, some say she's, making a comebackyeah going back to a routto. I don't know, I think she she's done yeah. I mean once the catset ou bag and people know your prickets hard to cut back. Is it it? No UN intended it? Cou She's got a lotof cats there. She does. She really does my, but of course you know it is aSaturday nightmate where in the way hours this is where weare, of course,nine hours, and we do our best work. I believe so, let's roll on with it madeand how have you been Ma, what's been going on in an Eg fill good. I've been good, keeping up thegood work as for usual, you know just sending into this new job, which is you know, sometime settling into thenew job can be challenging because new culture and everything, so that's-that's, been kind of I'v been pretty preoccupied with that. So it's beentaking up a lot of mental band wit Ben wit, if you will a capacity, but apartfrom that, you know, kicking goals, you know just ecided toget back into the routine of doing things and the usual. You know justtrying to get onto this podcast as well, making sure we do a weekly one so whichis good par from that. You know just starting to gatch out with people fromSydney again, because I've recently moved back to Sydney so yeah, it's been good. It's been good. What bout yourself yeah now been goodmad, it's funny the routine thing you mentioned post wedding. It was a littlebit like getting back on the track. I maybe mentally. I was to a littlehoneymoon period and I certainly felt a honeymoon period just in terms of kindof rereestablishing, just a little bit of happiness in life, and it was such agood day and episode twenty two, which is out now. Of course, you haven't,checked it out going to spotify going to apple playlist wherever you up applepodcast or were, if you're Listeng to this and check it out those as reallygood episode and Yeah. We spoke a farbit about it and I guess, just overthe last week had a really busy week this week with the gym was coveringclasses both morning and nights. Doing getting a little bit better week byweek at MiG. Keep boxing certainly from a technical teaching perspective. I should say, and had alittle bit of Uni work to start off during the week got into Bible studythis week at Church. I was my second week doing that such a eye openingexperience, because I you know I know I knew I looke I fougt. I knew what wasit about and I have like the conceptual framework down, but going you knowgoing just like anything going in deep. It's just like it completely changes.What it is so had a really good week in that regard and finished off the lastfew days, just pretty much working all day, but yeah really excited for theweekend, obviously just a little bit of time to hang out with Charlotte my newbride of two weeks so far, so good that complaants from y and anyway, maybe the same cap, you said: Did youwant to input it now sh's she's in the background tonight? So you know if Iget carried away, I'm sure she'll be quick to pull me up and, of course,that beautiful Abigail Shallo to Abergal she's, nearly nine months now,which is pretty crazy to think she's growing up so fast and she's eating somuch and she's learning so much that yeah, it's been really good and theroutine is well andtrully back on track and I feel all the better for it buddy. That's a that sounds awesome to him.It's just always good getting into that routine and the Rhythm Wright that flowoff things of just things flowing back and forward. Just like this podcast,you know it's always nine and as a great manonce said, where your focus goes, your energy flows mates a the MOSTI limes.We can shift our focus towards the positive and or yeah. That's stick with positive way,we'll see how my brain goes. Tor Right, I feel like yea woing all day B, I'ebeen. I doN'ti want to say then so much like, especially at my job at the golfcourse like it's predominantly customer service pace. So it's like meetinggreats and really quick interaction, so you've kind of got to be fast on yourfeet and my humor was up to scratch. Today. Know People like to be funny onthe golf course and say stupid Shit, and I was pretty good with that today,but any time the the conversation went...

...past surface level I was just fuby goeslike a so you let a go Ta. I was Lik, oh my gosh, but now it's a so far, sogood buddy. Yes soon as the weather topic ends, you know it's t, Aholdownhill from there. You know and we've had twodays we sunmight. So it's been.It's be good, it's givinly, Soleb, not talk about. That's right, that's rig! I mean Iguess we can touch on that a little bit like you know, it's easier to think not quite this time. Last year, thistime last year were actually all getting ready for the First Section oflockdown, and we were pretty active with the podcastemer in that time, andit was obviously a crazy time. D O think that's told months away, but youknow, eighteen months ago, to about four EIG months ago, like the fireswere well and truly an effect and to see the complete opposite now, andpeople struggling with the opposite in of the wheather sphere is really crazy.At just goes to show, particularly on the east host Hol freaking,unbelievable, our our systems are where the systems are so up here. We we gotclose to some of the fides like we're pretty good in Cossa, because it isnear the beach and we don't live too close to like lakes and the mountainsdo provide a bit of an issue, but we're really clostalso. It's like it's reallyflattened the roads, just get really wet and it still drains pretty well,but I know t even western Sydney like near the dam. They were pet that werepretty nervous for a while ont day. They still might be it's more to come,oh yeah, it's got. It poured down crazy it. In fact, it actually started when I was driving back to Sydney from upyour way: Anro rihten new Caraon, a bad first, ifyeaad new, your Newcastle, it just started pouring down Greain and wecouldn't. We could barely drive honestly and and it just pretty muchdidn't stop from there. So that was probably Sunday the previous week andit just didn't stop raining that whole week onwards. You know so probably oneof the more insane weather paterns as as one would put it- and you know asthe as the allhe politations por it oneinfimed, onre hundred one in hundred fifty years event you know so themtrying to always get away with themis, putting some random mats in there'slike how the fuck do you work that up yeah. So how do you work that out?Actually, Tho, let's be honest for a second, you know when, when fifty yearevent are happening every five years, like you know, it's Tait's nos the fivewas hundred fifty years. Ewent. The rain is a hundred fifty year. seent.Where are you? Where are you getting these stat forit, like you know, he's ascheduled in in a calendar. Yep hundredway hold on it hundred fiftyyear Don, let it por down you know. So I don't know I was thinking about thosetats and those sound big dodgy. You know saying hundred fifty year eventand those kind of things I mean. That's probably going to be the theme of thePODCAST Anhe want to give away too much, but you know: Hey, we go, let's getSSTA into it. The dodginess that surrounds us of misinformation- thenyou know, was that get said by you know: Power bodies or the influences, and I'mtalking about the real influences o' talking about the premiers of thegovernment and the you know, and the prime ministers in the Ono all thosepeople, but before we get into it, you know on that weather the whole by the scenarios kind of Imean I like what you did, they Mi Weewe're concluding our topics beforewe jump to the next one, that's very good, exactly it's a new experience for us isobefor, so maybe we're getting better after thetwo there. You go good signs early. So just on that I mean it was aprettyinsane event right and he was despite how many people suffered fromit. It was kind of Nice to see people coming together and trying to help eachother out. So you know shout up to anyone who was affected by the my Stephyeah floods, and you know I'v Thought Sand pretties up with you, but it wasinsaying that very nice to see people helping each other. There was somemillionaire who was flying around in his helicopter, helping people out withthe food, but you know those those things always nice and you know, asthey everyone says, that's Australian way. I think that is thos thrilling way,so it's kind of Nice, most efiilly. What's that he's a famous Uys, he madesome money who used to be in the military. He made money playing professional poker and he's gota Madana Zeran. I wasn't dead. WAZE was getting some social media content orthat it was actually a legit pers Whateveri, don't think it was denBazilia, but what actually happened at den Bazilin? This is till around a longas I eds ago. Yet about six or seven years ago we had a heart attack in the midst of his partying lifestyleand Justis hes social media empire was taken off, but I imagine you' stilldoing the exact same thing as just hard. After a certain period of time, whenyou're doing the same thing, it's hard to continue to, you know remainrelevant, like Yeu still I'm surehow,...

...actually, if you're on his instagram.How many follows? Is the big big bad dude have? Well, I look. I tougt in Dan and noBrazilian came up, so we already know in Bers an he's relevant. It's got three pint thirty, two millionfollowers and D W, apparently he's known as aAmerican actor. What you are must have been some dodgy films he's been in. Idon't think I've seen anything. Probably some you know straight to debdstuff, maybe so funded it's probably Wel Hee we go so allegedly he was inthe lone survivor. That's a good film! Isn't it okay, yeah! That's with with whatlook at this brain's gone. What'shis name, a be beautiful bass that he was in 's, the massive guy with you, what an amazing actor yeah? That was areally good, really Confur Bost of intrue story as well, and you know mostof those movies are pretty crazy and Hollybood disk. But I've heard militarypeople on part. What podcast speak specifically saying that was actuallyone of the better done movies in terms of like actual reallife scenarios, the weapons that we used in certain situations in th, likethe commentary and that sort of thing. So it's kind of interesting when yousee it from that perspective, like you think about how Hollywood wants to dotheir thing like like Black Hawk down with another one,and that was meant to be based off real life events and yeah was Eric Banner OJmovies. So one of my favorite movies all time that one, but they were sayingth t like that. Like the way they spoke, the weapons they use like all mate wasjust spraying and pray and it was like pitch black and he had his dot vision,goggles that he was just but teache. He was just bloody rainbowing people he's like no at nittime, you're, so careful with your shots, I'm like Woll. That's actuallyreally! You know, that's something that you don't know about unless you've beenin the military and they said that loane Survibo is really good, so thereyou go. Maybe wort three watch actually sounds good. I definitely put that onmy Wachlis, hey just on Dan bazilion right, just goin to quickly going backon it right. If you look at his Instagram, his instagram is insane thatdude is insane yeah. It's almost it's like it doesn't even seem like reallife. Does it he's just? He lives, lives kind of the the life that many people oulddream about in terms of being constantly surrounded by, above average beautiful women heaps ofmoney, expensive cars, you know living with the elite like it's like you know,I mean th the question the question coming in his one of his pictures rightwhich, as posted roughly I think last year, is still using a thousand andsixteen Max. So that's a questionable behavior you never know couldal be,could have bee e show, but maybe just maybe it's just hes B hes knocked inthe Groov. So much do now. You have anything but keyboards are like that toMay you've just pounded that thing out and you're like it's got SUC. It's gotthat beautiful touch, tod that you know just like a cricket back. You know:Well, that's it if it that's fuck, I do that yeah es yeah, he's gived up forsure hes on yeah he's on the special source,but I mean good widdence to him. You might as well be yeah. Look he's he'sinteresting to say the least. Yeah. Definitely interesting, guidnexcit. Nowthat what kind of people follow him, though, like I don't under I mean,there's nothing inspiration about in insirrational about him. Like you,don't look at him. Go you know what that makes me inspired. You know youjust kind of feel shit about yourself with anything yeah. Potentially it'spure it's a little bit of like a secret thing, not secret thing, but likesomething that you enjoy just indulging in and playing a part of that world abit at make Pete make pretend, but he's probably one of those pages, and Ithink I used to follow him as well, because I just saw it something reallycool like he did some he was. He did some like high, like aroving camera shot of him jumping off this cruise and he had like guns and hewas like it was really cool D. I'm like Oh, that's, cool I'll, just follow him,you don't have he I'm sure his engagement isn't overly high comparedto the thirty to mill, but I think people see a call shot, they justfollow and they go from there and there's obviously a lot of people thatjust want to feel included. I guess I'm sure, there's a lot of people that justfollow. They just go to the top listed people and they just follow thembecause they a I need to be involved with this. The Rock is really different. 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...writing it. Sometimes it's just likeshit. You can just tell it's like a Bro just thinking at loud, which is reallycool. Most of these other pages. I don't follow because it's just likewhen it's a professional team doing it you just tell one it just doesn't doanything for me. What about you? No that's! That's a! I totally get thatactually and in fact, funny enough. This is a little marketing inside right.So I've learnt recently that anything that sounds too scripted and perfectpeople, don't uperate, don't appreciate anywhere so, which is you almost wantto aim for unscripted off the top of your head kind of wibe going on as well,so even with the videos, the videos that are less professionally made getmore attention than videos that are more professionally scripically madejust because people can relate with thim more. You know, Y, like the longgevity of the day. Yeah he's I mean his instagram page is just like aninstragram page of anyone like plenty of repos just food him talking. Youknow it looks like almost you almost dare to believe that his normal dude,yes, him at's what it sae so well, really yeah yeah, I mean h him with hisdaughter Se, seven million likes on that YEP that picture yeah. He must be upthere, Ois yeah. Ithink. If you go on the top Lis, it's tim you'll have like a Renaldo. Youllhave area and Grande you'l have probably just some baber anow he's right. There Mark Likeeberg few of those guys Yeah Oh past onehundred, that's the precidits now like even even facebook has what like threeto four active three to four biin active users, now R, not activenecessarily but people that have logged in over the last twelve months like itamber it was like the one being stage or yeah. It's liteally, it's literallya part of everyone's life. Now Yeah, so you got the top following account isinstagram because I'm pretty sure Itse Gan makes you follow them yeah you gotta unfollow them to not do it.Yeah, Christian and Nado Fall By. Second, that's interesting that he'sSacrenawdo Yeah e International Suport Man Yeah. He and obviously look at hispage to his borderline model and yeah. Look O in e Grand Eres a bitof bullshit because yeah it feels like whay. Doesn't it wow? What is it now? It's just funny the way you saidit still o Thetee, backof Ma backons, probably notthat had but he'd be n his gibe in the Esose, so you go. Let's tell I was just goingto look at iron granded space to see what it what it entails. You know, but just quickly before we move on, aswhen I see WHO's a dol five, let's see yeah we'll goon to top five ecause soyyou're gone. It's really interesting, because it's it really is. You know that, obviously,their far superior to any news out lit they're, far superior to any mind, andeven though we still would look at president and we still look at variousnews entities as being the place where people get the information andeverything from these. These places are by far fire and exced that it's likepeople still have an attitude toward social media that it's lack ofimportance, but it's the total opposite to what that is sor, just just just just yeahabsolutely, and these people drive major influence and that's where theproblem comes in with you know, obviously someone like I INA Grande. Ican tell you now she would go. She would say, let's Wot, for bidthem rightin America, because hundred percent- and that seems to be the case wheremost artistic types are tend to be more left laning right, which is fine. Li ecompletely fine right, but I mean it's of always been the case and same thingwith you know more tech giants as well, so you got the Ject bezels ot, the wordand all those kind of people theye. All. I think it's kind of UN yeah the factthat there's like a there is a there's like a there's like a schoolyard there's like a schoolyard pressure forthem to be left learning because the of the pushback they get. If they're, not,you know what I mean, even if they Tati Yeah Yeah. It's because often the leftist left side is left. Side is bit way more louder and way more likely toeclude you from the group. So that's probably why yeah so yeah, so you gotsomeone like Iin a grandate right. She would definitely get prolitical right,which is and and then she'd go. You know ar they, you know shed getpolitical and when they get political, it's like I mean my heaveside, the Rocka little bit, not a lot, but a little bit. I've seen a couple of yeah acouple of times like this last election was the first time ye ever endorsed,Everend, also candidate. A lot of people did that against trump for sure,so ou don't see a lot of it, but yeah enough that you go yeah enough, that there's more toit. Ithink all right. I see why Arina Grande hasone of the biggest following whyis that it's just her and I meanshe's pretty attractive yeah like no. Everyone just looks at shes e Jus Fakyeah, like I not not speaking, it's just not that I meani is Mostl ypictures of fire whey. She looks hot...

...yeah cater, so the yeah y money and it's kind of likeshe was up there as being that most followed to people like yeah gotta, getit on that and then it just c well, O. on top of that, she's got that. Youknow that that she's, like almost became like the symbol of you, know,femininy femininity of the awes, is like tiny goal. You know a yeah cuteface and, like obviously most of the her following is the majority ofinstagram uses like you know, which is that age, so, okay, so ye call thirteen toseveneen or thirteen o twenty one sort of thing. I think it's yeah, it'sprobably more like fifteen to twenty five kind of range that ten year sor sowhich is probably major one. I, like you, know same thing like I'm not about don't follow her, but Ican see why someone my age would follow her. I actually went to I went oo cleanup unfollowing all the PISL, yeah MOC. Definitely itjects and T it can. Itdoes consume a fair part of your of your mental best of your timeline.Yeah! THAT'S RIGHT TON! You realize how much you get on a roll with it and therock would be just abros like Sevenn, O thirty, five, just the mail, which isanother o Fellik boy, yeah, O just before we wrap this Fart of theconversation up. So we got topfotop top instagram accounts, so all the way downto just a beaber being the last at sixteen hundred, sixty seven millionfull owords, which is still a lot of number one, is instragram at threehundred eighty, eight million followers followed by Christian Ronaldo at twohundred. Seventy one million wow SOS my iry hundred yeah, followed by or in aGranda at two hundred twenty seven close B, closely follard way veryclosely followed by the rock at two oint. Twenty four million two hundredtwenty four million Follo by Karli Jenner. At Two hundred twenty one clot.They all very close yeah e COM, is at two hundred an seventeen came cardationat two hundred ten Leo Messy at o HundredNinety one beyone. I hundred an sixty in socce bro, so big man, just n Beberlast at hundred sixty seven million wow and he's he's drifting away from theHollywood ethos. If you will so that's why his not as rapidly increasing as much asthe other guys like he's well, that's he's Takeng a step back from it and Owise he'd be ridting the fige of it. You know what I mean well, Hoes. He stillwhat he's a b year older than I s, I think like twenty seven, so that agegroup Yeah and Youg oning for finding his wayand because he seems to be getting issut together. WBUT, that's what yeaslike you married now and I'm sucus Yeah Yeah married, and you know good on him-he's about Tehe's twenty seven now yeah, so his birthday was just recentlypassed in first of March, so sh o shut out to the peeps e whul. You H wouldn't happen to know thestar sign is the first to march bad or not, really, your no really, yourgooglit that most definitely not lade, that's about it! Okay, but I'm glad yousaid: Glady said that Caus I was about at. I just love that stuff ma. Well, you know there you go, there'syour weekly checking over where the following is that if you're feelingshit about your you know six hundred followers now yeah feeling proud. Nowyou know now you know where the Markis that might keep crying Oreadem likethat. That's right all right! So today's topic right sowe're going to get poligical right so because seems to be the case thateveryone's getting political, so let's get political as well as dig deep intosome some of the conspiracy theooris. So this is almost that you know you got the think of this as the JoRogan, as Alex Alex Jons pordcast, with the Dar the one we kept dancing around,but the one we finally need to address. Yes, I like it actually because we'vesaid nearly every episode I will get to it eventually. So I guess it's probablytime isn't it. You know you know before we start there's one thing I want toSey. Oh, in fact I want you guys to heat it ready. It is waats Gbeautifull, all right, let's get into it right. So,first of all, we've got there's so much talk about right. This we could goanywhere politically speaking right, but let's get the ball rolling, whichis the elephant in the rooteise elephant orthe freaking month, the dragon in the room right, if you will, that is theroom. It is the room right which is sopassibor. You know, obviously, forthe past year and a half almost right now coming up to Yeu and a half right,because it actually started in September of twenty eighteen. Roughlyaround that time, I think money non a yeah, soyegess Yeah Yeh s to gettraition around then yeah around then the virus that has plegged the wholeplanet, the old eigtn plus one as loid...

...inpress, one M Legu. I shouldn't: U Cowrite that Shit Defniteso Make Masra, I survivatin, plus one yeah, the oldold cronobirus right, so there has been so much that has beensurrounding it. Despite the fact that people were dying despite the fact thatpeople are suffering that didn't stop people from, of course, spreadingmisinformations, you know coming up with their own version of their truthand coming up with insane scenario, some that were just absolutely bizarreand some that were actually pretty close to being reality, and one couldsay you know what there's some truth in that. So there's so much that happenedin that last year I mean slow, so many countries are still suffering, so Imean it's not quite over yet, but you know in Australia. I've been, I believe,with it from. I believe it's probably have something to do with the fact thatweare so far out as well. You know not as interconnected to other countries. Aprobably has something to do with it, but nevertheless, we've been very luckyhere in Australia. So you know it feels like things are starting to becomenormal. Almost you know in Australia, so yeah touch wood. It stays like that. But let's talk about Yeat we did. Wedid J T have a single case in Brisman. That's caused a little bit of mediauproal Madin a little bit of people panicking by a single case. So thereyou go co, es upbrought, right, yeah, so yeah, but so, let's just start with media rigts, it'sa great place, Tis, so media uproar and that's exactly what the whole time ithas been. The media UPROA right. So I remember discussing you know just talking aboutwhat the Bares to people and saying hey: what's the me Yore doing, and you knowhow things are going and every time Youd see the news, you know six new sixnew cases. The vorst Melbourne has ever seen Ol like all these headlines thatwere just rubbish completely. To be honest, trike, you know. Obviouslythere was a lot of sufferings. That's no one can deny that. However, a lot ofthat was just you know some made up shit that you know media just thoughtit was funny to just put up their caus get their ratings up. You know, becausethat was prime feeding time for the scabinches. If you will, you know mediaand it's a Funnin, a good riht oput, it yeah. It was prime eating done for themright, while everyone is Dolnen, it's like t, that's what scammen just doright and in saying that I don't also want to discredit media completelyright, so speak of the mass media previousl because they have a job andtheir job is to bring. You know news to the general public, and sometimes theydid that exceptionally well, you know they had those lives going on facebook,so it was nice to be able to talk. You know practically. You know log ontoyour facebook and see your premier upstate. You know speaking and givingthe bad news. You know so all those things so some of that they didexceptionally por. But it's what it's surrounded it. You know the whole ideaof them the putting their opinion in itright and, of course, I understand. GEUNERNALISM cannot be completelyobjective, but it wasn't. It was nothing to do with objection beingobjective of subjective ewause. Practically they were just you know.Fair mungling is, is that wor the word for your mungling? You know where they just yemmemongering. That's OAM ongring yeah, so they use the right tag, lines the rightwords to just making sure you know people were on edge and they wereconstantly loging in and they were getting. Those reed sweet, clicks,Clicke to you, know ctrs that click through rates- and you know you knowplenty of reach, and you know you could do if you jump on one of those searchmedia tools, you could probably find a the reach wer above you know, throughthe roof at the time, because you know so all that advertisement, money wassweet, sweet and some people did it really well this for some mediocompanies, they they said anything. You know Covis Ninhtein, related news. Whatwe charge, obviously you know sometime was very few of them wotid I majorityof them word. You know that was the prime time to make money, despite thefact that you know. I do appreciate what Google and facebook dat and Googlesaid anyone whop upload the video regarding Chrono wies on Youtube won'tbe monetized. So obviously, you know- and you see post now as well, even ifit's a brief mention of the virus and actually the way theother GRUSM is set up. There's definitely been times where this postdidn't have anything to do with, with with covid in particular, it mighthave just been about the way the world is a currently at the moment, and youwould get little information by down below saying for for covid information.Follow this government website. That's really interesting how that wasdeployed probably took a few months, but that became now that's everywhereright. Well that yeah, that's right. The whole thing about fake news andwhatnot interestingy enough. Interestinglyenough, I actually find this quite interesting that the fact that and someone else was taltalking aboutit as well like who you know a lot of...

...doctors were getting like we're comingup with. I don't know if it's truth or what they were saying was true or notright, but I'm aware that a lot of doctors were coming up with, like youknow, saying: Hey You: can you can treat the virus with thise and you cantreat the virus with that and very quickly thei videos and their post weregetting taken down and they were medical doctors as Wellas right, soyeah people working on the front line even yeah. So what was interesting wasthat okay, like how are you await who's, deciding that this doctor is right? Hasthe right answer these other doctor? Doesn't you know mean so that wasinteresting as well. So that's a little bit of a you know a no necessarily hirthat Google or facebook, so I'm just I just I like that- is une right and justquickly. Sorry, O subtrack! You I'm getting like a little tiny bit offeedback from your microphone. I'm pretty sure my headphone is good. Maybejust do like a little adjustment at the back just in case think it's a littlelout, but as long as you're not hearing nothing and might just been myheadphones that are cracking through, and I didn't want that to go through topeople this thing, but yeah keep going, give going for sure, and there was like it wasn't always the case, but I didkind of feel as though, if you were questioning the WHATP, what the authorities were doingmore at least providing an alternative. That's when the scrutiny was- and Iguess this links into quote- unquote fate, news and misinformation, but theywere the people that were questioning you know other modalities. That mightactually be effective. That's when they were really getting pressured to eitherbe quiet or to attract statemential R, like you are seeing even people beingdemonotized as well yeah at absolutely, and that was one ofthe things that I'm kind of wondering right. It's like it was. It was interesting to see that you know there was a Lott ofpressure and I presume a lot of pressure was and I'm trying to figureout where that was starting. We was that we was like the grand zero of thatkind of the ment mentality right, because I know that people most people won't just come up weren'tjust coming up with it, because you know there. I say people aren't thatsmart right, so I'm trying to figure out where that mentality was. You know sparking from you know. I mean that thet idea of like just trying toyou know. Just you know dimmer down. The peoplewho were you know has had anything anything to say against the virus.Right or like you know, just think of you know, offer a different school ofthought. If you will right so yeah that I think that was, it gave yeah. It gavea little bit of andto build off your point here. It gave a little bit ofammunition. I feel to the people who were of the mindset that this was allyou know something that was structured in order to implement different thingsin society, and it was. It was really weird because on the one hand it waslike a little bit of cridal for thinking, and I feel like this is a keycomponent that we saw. Some people lack and some people had and some peopledidn't have. Some people did have was the bility o. He critically thinksituations, and not just have your prejiices come in and assume that allthings are one way or the other, but it was it gave. You know it gave fuel tothe thought that maybe you know maybe there's like more is going on or atleast at the bad minimum, the powers ot be or people with influencear. Takingadvantage of this current situation, we live in. You know using this as an opportunityto maybe quiet voices. They really wanted to and using covidt as a vehicleto justify it, and I think that certainly happened in a lot of casesfor sure and- and that was the interesting thing and like yeah, so that I thought was interestingso and there was there was definitely a kind of a vibe about if you weren't prolock down. If you weren't pro masked- and I want to be very clear that personally speaking right, I think thelocktowns helped right was their alternative. Probably whoknows right, you know clearly our government didn't if there was analternative right or which is no one knew about it right. So I do think thelockdown workd right and Wa, like I said before it- was there analternative. I guess we'll never find out OL. At least I wouldn't know right yeah, you hop something happen again orif we got to a stage where we needed to take similar action, they would be morecalculated with the way they went about it. You know unprecedented is th the wordof the Ye, the word of the season if ye bill, because it was and a lot ofpeople were trying to figure out the way it was going to be and earlynumbers early figures looked at that this thing was going to be. You know,though, that war still very bad, which is quite scary. They thought it wasgoing to be a lot worse than what IV actually end up being,...

...particularly for the wider range ofsociety and not just smaller democraphics that had you know, preexisting medicalconditions and were really unhealthy. Certainly, there are cases of peoplethat have fit in health in doing well and at that suffered really badly withit, but but I think that they as they as the research and as evidence cameout that it was a particular part of the population that was affected bythis, their ability or the sorry o their methods of social lockdowns ot. That sort of thingthese didn't adjust, it was just very qooked. Kind of this is what we decidedto do, we're going to stick with it now, and maybe that was a little bitdisappointing, but also you know it's. I guess it is one of those things thatif you know, if you're the first person to come back and open it all up againand shut hit, some Fan Orl then you're liable to it. So that's kind of wheresociety is at a little bit anyway, right, yeah, at', absolutely, and just on thatright. So th t that that's absolutely true what you said theyre right, butwhat's also interesting, is right is the fact that let's say if there was another way right, and you know you were, you were aperson who you know, perhaps a scientist or like a mathematician orwhatever right. You K O because there's some smart people out there right whothink of these things, and you know, obviously I'm not talking about yourneighborhood Internet Ral Right, I'm talking about actuals, actual smartpeople who know what they're talking about right offered that opinion I feltlike, and I still feel like you know they would have been very quickly shutdown right, yeah hat's. Perhaps that is the rightthing to do, because you know from go powers to be. The governments know thatif there needs to be a certain level of control and do action needs to be taken,wher, ther, trihe or wrong- perhaps that's the case and they don't wantanyone to get confused. Maybe that's that is that's the case, but it justfeels like it was very one sided like you know, imoraltechnique. It was almost that very much felt like that. O know that immoraltechnique level of what he talks about like that. You know the the governmentpower I mean you low. If you want to look at it, Victoria is a great example.Like I mean it, realy is yeah. I still think Jeni Andrews is a greatleader right. I think he's good at what hi does and you know if porbaster isactually injured at the moment, shatter to him. You know- and I think you knowhe to Beto- be someone who stood there every single day, wherh tit deliver thebad news of good news right, whether he was him or not right, but he took theblunt of it. Like you know, he's he was the one who everyone was you knowtalking. If somethi it was a b. You know if hewas the one telling you that this numbers of Covin Intein people thoughtit was his fourt. You know yeah, that's right. He was imagine I want to seesome before and after farrors of all these politicians, you know Prean Postcovid within twelve months, like you've, seen Youe, probably Seein, the photosof peracco Bam, an ttan eight and twenty fourta and o thosand and fiftynowe. He was coming to the end of his second term, like it's look like he'd,been through thirty years worth of experiences like a Ichon Thare's goingto be some sumular situations. You know you love them or hate him, they you know they had to takequestions and obviously they had to do work and they ar do stutin meetings andthey had to plan and execute and make decisions on these things at a such a high level of stress thatnot many people have felt since you know war time really, even though thisis not not comparative to the war, it is within the same realm or ethos. Youknow ethos is my word of the day. I think so, I'm going no go with that.You Know Tha, it is warl level stress, even though it isn't, because not fairto the people that were round during the war time. This is as close as acomplete society that we've ever been to that sort of thing. You know,particularly in the Western world, for sure, as bloody first world problem inus, Oh for Surt, for sure- and I mean let'stalk about that for a second. I think this was probably the first time in ain a minute, Weli'm, nots, Goin, to say a minute. I mean a lot longer than that,where the Westan civilization, in fact the civilization as a whole, wasbrought down to their knees right because previously there was alwayslike someone who was had their shit together right. So this was the firsttime Ma. The everyone was brought down to the knees, while I'm talking about thebringinggovernments down to their knees right. I just one O thees one more thing thatI want to say right, which I thought was pretty interesting. You know there's one thing that wholeCov diting thing has done for me: Is I've lost? I have less faith in the government ifthat makes sense right or ours, government structure, the reason beingis Riedt. First, first problem was government kept on changing their mindabout...

...something as serious as co withnineteen right about it's, not that scary. It's pretty scary. It's reallyscary n! It's not that bad! No mine, Ol, good, our hospitals are full watyoure.Trying to do is flat in the curve. You know what go. What happened to thatright? Yeah Ou knothe two week, Hafor the STARLIGH yeah two weeks off shuffleyou know and then then change their mind again or this is just two weekswill be living with this for ten years I'll be going for. Like you know you,it makes me wonder right because whenever we do things in o office rightand like, for example, working in a company right were so like pushed to gothrough our due diligence and do all those things making show, we don't getthings wrong right because you know whois who's this, because the government isthere always looking down on these. Like you know, companies saying that you know make sure you getyour shit right, because if you don't you know, you'll get you'rl be introuble by what the government right so to speak. So all those things that happenespecially just running a business right and then a whole government failsto realize and do their checks and measures. I find that prey insisted yeah, yeah, misreporting of numbers likeoverestimations under esumotions. Obviously, a massive media beat up inthe US had similar much more severe, but they had their and Quomo. who was the either the mayoror the the governor of New York? I think itmight be the mayor and he you know he sent a lot ofelderly people who are at that really high risk Group E sentems straight tonursing homes and was basically like, like you neese you, people need to getin there and like and that's the safest place for you, people to be, and itturned out like that, actually brought a long. Thousands of death and now he'sfacing political B discourse or ret re recourse. Because of that- and that'sreally interesting kind of the Australian example of that in somesense was the the first one was the big cruise where people were brought. Theywas a big cruise that was sent out on the Western seaboard. People werebrought back and then they were not an to come off until they were cleard andtested, and everyone just came off, and apparently that was a bit of aspreading thing, but the big one was the hotel quarantine. Whole thing that's gone on. That was,that was a big part of kind of the case Uprising Victoria. So to see themismanager of that and almost the blame, like the blame not being taken anywhereand- and I guess my whole point is thatlittle spill there was just in terms of dialogue how quickly the dialogueshifted like early on it was to two weeks and then it was like. We actuallydon't know whand they did't know. But there wasn't. I feel like there wasn'tenough dialogue to keep people directly informed with what's really going on,like people being spoken to, but not really being included, and that waskind of a lot of people's concerned and myself as well was like you know how peoples opinions and their thoughts ina democratic society of being shifted so quickly and so easily. That was, I guess. One thing that wastaken out of this situation, but we all realize that we have far less influenceon our society than we realize and obviously we have the right to vote mehave the opportunity to vote and that's really good. That's once every fouryears like in between we've got a COP, a lot of Shit and we had Tho cop a lotof Shit. You know hundred percent a hundred percent andthat's exactly right and it almost kind of felt and grect me. You agree withthe correct me if it was just me, did it kind of feel like it was like parents telling their Nadtykids off throughout the whole period, with the Governna most definitely and they have to be harsh, like youhave to use strategies and there's people who write speeches for thesepeople hand they and they use. You know experts in the field of I don't know,probably not persuasion, well Bo Ali programming. Okay, please explain in a second, they usepeople who know how to innow crisis managers in cases like these, like. Howdo we get a message across most ufficiently like what are thestrategies? What's the language as I readjust my chair, whath, the languagewe have to use and the strategy certainly was and still is like puttingyou know putting society at out a place. It's like yeah, you guys aren't Auhdyguys like listen, we're telling you what to do you've got to listen. Thereason why it's not working is because you're not listening. Well, the truthof the matter is we live in a society where there we are, you know we'reliable and we have. We should be taking care of eachother and I feel like most people did, but we also have the right to to keep a certain amount of ourfreedoms and once people feel their freedoms are being taken away. Forexample, beaches being closed or people...

...not having to have an excuse to leavethe helme. That's why people start getting worried and there wasn't a lotof dialogue in that regard. It was just like you have to listen to us, becausethis is how we're going to keep everyone safe. What turned out thatjust damn thing ran its course, because it was so contagious and you just put awhole bunch of people through trauma that the public heall system is goingto have to pay for for a long time in terms of mental health and suiciderates, and you know, frigging, the the bloodyeconomy broke people's jobs, people's livelihoods, businesses that sort ofthing so yeah, I feel like as a society, is a lot weneed to learn and leadership need to take responsibility for the the amount of shit that went wrong andthat's the easiest way for me to articulate. It is the amount of shitthat went wrong. I don't know I don't know if that'skind of what you were getting to, I feel like we're on definitely along thesame lines there and most people I speak to feel- were certain very muchagree with that yeah yeah hundred percent. I agree, I thinkmy bigger consent that I've personally felt was the government is merely spok spookesman of the public right,that's what they really are, so that should be yeah. Sorry, butthat's how I was just trying to fix my mack there Islik, you know thegovernment. The government is really body, that's put together by the peopleto act on their bebest interest and sometimes not often, sometimes we asthe public, particular particular. You know. Member of the public may make fewmistakes and we've agreed, as as a group said that you know that body thatwe'v put into place may punishes, for you know, making certain mistakes wherethings like committing murder, or you know, going through speedcameras andall those things right where. However, it's time to feel more and more likethe government has government has got us by the throutlike in a sense where you know we answer to the public. FERS is the otherway around. You know, at least at least that's what I've been feeling like. Youknow, because you look at, and I don't want to makethis about money, but right. You think about the fact that how much money wepaynt texes tools and just in general government fees right so that old moneyis meant to be going to developing meant to be going back to you know thepublic benefits right. However, I feel it's started to feel like who'sdeciding that benefit, and you know it's just Tine to feel like thosebenefits like what's best for public. It's almost like well, the publicdoesn't know what's best for them, so whe're ust going to make that decision,and that's what's going to be that's what it's going to be. So you knowwhether it's be building new roads and all those things rigt somet, you not so,for example, I summone someone from the University of Cambera Nationaly, butyeah, some really SPAP. Anyway. She was a really smart person. I was listeningto her talk on this PORCASS podcast right. That's EIS name is my that's agift in itself. I'll tell you that Ra should get to hisself right. That's myfull back. She was a really smart person just so take her words for itright. She was talking about how there has been a pressure on thegovernment from from you know, this community of academics right sayingthat we need to we need to disaster, prove our infrastructureright so to speak. Our cities are way to dence right, so the whole series endup turning into a bath tub when rain comes down right, that's what happenssame thing with our rule areas and our properti es away too close to the landat particularly those foothill areas where the water seems to go right. Soyou know those areas need to be. You know need to have the support, so they cansurvive disasters right, particularly because why the conditions are changing,there's more different kind of rain and all that stuff right. You know theytend to be seen. Seemingly you know all these things are happening right soand the and the fact that we can do it as well. So, historically speaking,perhaps we couldn't predict these things and we didn't know themathematics behind it right now that we can the government had the pressure togo. Hey. Let's, you know the from those community of academics. You should youknow you should you know disaster prove your infrastructure, STOLP, building acity without a park. You know so without the wet lans, its just basic,you know Architecti one one rike. You know development of the ciry of themetrodevelopment right. You think about that fact: Thats Basic Basic Matts. Ifyou're going to build a whole city, you need to build a park because where elseis the border going to go where's IT...

Goin to go. If you know, if is concreteeverywhere right, but from what Yeu ware saying that, because it's not beneficial to thegovernment or the currunt government, for example, you know you got the thelibra, the liberal, paryin right, OL right, they don't think is beneficialto them to invest in that, because that's notgoing to do anything for them. But all they're going to look like is a is thegovernment who cause ha deficit in their budget right? So they don't. Theydon't want to invest money in something like that, because that just seems goesunder underno under our noses and we don't think about it. Don't everage! Weonly Sart thinking about it when something like these floods happenedlast week right. So that's right! That's right! It's tarned to seem like.Is the government really thinking about our best benefit, or are they justthinking about? What's best for them? Are they going to come back in the part?Come back next year or the follow? You know the folling Tam, and you know it's maybe somting- to become more of abusiness than anything else. You know totally, AH, instead of a non forprofit instead of a public entity that runs, you know, is self sufficient in away like it relies of taxes it. It needs to show that it is strong andeconomics and ACAN sutayn itself, and it's not just constantly spending money.It can't get back, but it yeah. It does feel as though it's like. How can wemake plays that when it's time to campaign and thrt shove advertiementdown people's throats? How can we say that we helped for the next time to getreelected? Let me quickly shift off and come back so the shift off. Is It'sliberal, that's in charge right now. I think you might have said Labor I isspoke that doesn't really matter o go os, Libal old SCO, most liberal boy,Libera yeah, it doesn't really matter and then as well the SOF, the robes.The reason why the roads are so bad, like if you know I'm sure in your areasthe same up here, theyre shocking, because ETE's not enough places for thewater to go. It goes underneath the roads and underneath the concrete andthe the water below the roads is so bad, like there's so much water and moisturethere that it starts to shake the foundations or what the roads are builton a D. that's why they're just crack so easily. If you get untruck role onit like it's just splitting it up and how many reason how much resourcesisgoing to take to fix these demn Ros. Now that are even worse, because it'sjust like everywhere, you drive now it's like! Oh, it's like you play MrPodhold, Mr Friggin, you know mis Mr Frigin, ditch in the road. The six footditch that people Gan foll in so that's interesting, but that was that was alittle sideshipped anyway, and something to look for the future. The yeah, the concern for it all isreally that final point that we spoke about is like what what is the truemeaning of politics? Now, what is it? Why has it shifted in our society, inAustralia, certainly and in the Greater Western world that we closely adhere? Who wyig is it shiftingnow outside of the public sphere? And why is it moving towards, likeprivatization and political greed and that sort of thing and public interestgroups, Ofe Tlike, have been forced to come to the forefront of that as well?And I think in the society, particularly over the last twelvemonths, we live in we're forced to it's been forced. The front has been shakento the front that we there are a lot of things in that realm of thinking thatwe know about. We have to be concerned about when we reelect our politiciansnow and we look at how societies and government run their societies like itis just. It is paradigm shifting it is huge man like remember how we spoke onthe social dilemma, the the Great Netflix documentary about the influenceof social media and society. Well, tyhis is almost like a sub chapter ofthe Social Dilema, because it's shaken the framework that people exist in it'spulled back the curtain on a lot of ways that the world has run and nowwe've got a rewe've got a post covid because that's what it is: Preandpostcovored world we've got to realign ourselves and we've got to get back ontrack. But now we know so many things about if shit hits the fan, we knowwhat's going to happen again and it's very very interesting like it's almostit's not scary, because fuck being scared, but it's a little bitconcerning that's a way to put it right, and so Ithink you put a but on it there, and hopefully, I sort of was able toprovide my two cents there. It made a lot of sense from what you were sayingas well. You did really well sorry Wel, you bet say something I was just goingto sayd. No, that was a very well put together, that pretty much summed upeverything in Nice bords. I think there was a nice word. You said in there aswell, so I forgot what the woord was, but there was a Basabordin t herethrough a few year, there' so social infrastractor. I don't know what it was.Some some trying tof make like an artiste again wrote this podcast we'rejust pouring out the jug mat were letting it Al Flow and, like I guess, Othe interesting thought I had to and we can maybe touch on the we can n touch on the conspiracy sideof things like it was. You know the way. The way I started out this time lastyear on my thoughts of what was actually happing and how is going to godown, it's crazy, how different I've shifted and how much my perspective ischanged like we look at a couple of things that were people are talkingabout and we're concerned about like force vaccinations. That was the bigthing really earlhy people knew that...

...was going to be a virus and they knewthat. You know there was going to be a vaccine for, and it's like well they'regoing to use this thing- the crazy of the crazies ar like they're, going toput microchips to this vaccine, it's going to track people. It's like hello.We've been tracking you forever, but it's Gong to track people, and yet youknow you're GOINNA. It's going to have a recording thing, so you can hear allyou're doing and that sort of thing or first, first of all the vaccination tonot force and I'll. Tell you something really interesting. I Lik the other dayin Australia. Obviously, specifically, I fought out of all places. If anyonewas going to have to take the vaccents, it was going to be people that work onthe front line right, so people that work in hospitals, Bro, there's nothere's no force vaccine in for them. Like we've got person who trains thegymais name. Shaun is like we were completely given the choice to takethis facination he's done it because he felt it was the right thing to do. Heknows he's dealing constantly with at risk. People and he's like you know,I'd feel better if I did it so I got the vaccination, no one at always beingforced to take it like, not even in the slightest bit. So that's a bignarrative that people on the other and were talking about like they're, goingto make us do this, not at all brod, no one's getting the option to do that. Sofar anyway, we'll see how that changes out. I thought that was interesting andthat was a little bit of an Eyopener. For me, another talking pot was like acachle society. People are talking Oll. This is going to be their perfectavenue. Thei'r excuse to you know, get rid of cash, because this is a way wespread the disease, and you know we want to centralize money and put it allinto e. The Banking Wal to there hasn't even been a sent of that literallythere's an evidete, be in Te Sen of that narrative. You know what I meanlike society in itself is shifting towards that. But it's just it's nothappening because, it's being you know, it's being pulled out from under us andwe have to give our money back a hundred percent. Oh there ware, somany things. I wanted to say all right. Just this one quick note before I getback to the gapbooarly Rit. So first thing was what you mentioned aboutcasuous society right, so the shift towards cashal society was. It was just natural progression ofCapitalistic Society to go towards cashwes, because you know it's just in it's just it's just a better processright, its safer. It's faster! You know it's just a lot. Tak of you, of course,effective right, T, simpler means, banks become cheaper. Everythingbecomes cheaper right. So it's just more, it's just more logical and itseems normal to go tourds that and on top of that, we're talking aboutcetalization of the cash flow right, which, on top of that, that is probablyunlikely, because on top of that, because is digital. You Got Crypto andyou got the alternative currency coming through as well. So you know you got those kind ofcurrencis coming through. So that means a centrizition whether be s Gash,lesson society or not this centralization of the Gash of the thethe currency and to the is probably unlikely. I M, I said probably becauseyou knew ver know right. So that's one point and quickly going quick. I justwant to quickly touch on what we talking about. You said before, becauseI thought about this right. I said we got h. The problem with picking thenext party or the next who elected is right is was wo in Australia.Particularly Wele always had a two party system right, which isinteresting enough, because the fact that government actually has theantimonopoly laws about how, when a particular organization can't hell theyou know so Bao the TCONTROL, the government itself is essentiallybasically I manotii yeah Ir's, only two parties that just back and forwarth tojust play. You know play ball so to speak, and- and I wonder when you saywhen you say that the governments- why are they becoming like that when youtouched on that just said- a thought? The fact that is the government othegovernments becoming like that or have they always been like that and nowwe're just now the curtains are just being lifted, is the real questionbecause yeah, I think that's the thing because more and more coming outparticularly- and I don't- and I don't- I don't even not touch on this, butit's well. I don't want to talk about this at all, but I just quicky ont tatouch on and how much corrupt and horrible stuff that's coming out of theyou know the the Parliament House about all sexualassaults and all those things right. So yeah, that's huge right. So one has towonder that is our government tof Western society, because we brideourselve on other liberal government and understanding governments, and youknow the question is: Are we you know we'reparticularly in the West? Are we just? We were just lucky because we had aheadstar and our governments are equally as corrupt as any other Westror any other development countries that we calld so called that hey theirthirdworld or development country developing countries because of theircorruct government Anso to speak. You know, so it's a real question, becauseI'm aware that Pakistan had a corrup government right, but I didn't knowthat Australia had a crap covernment put this bsarn to seem like Australiadoes had a crup government. You always had a crup government, they SAM thingwith America, Yeah Yeah most definitely, and they just did a better job athiding it and...

...or hiding it sure, or they had a betterway of applying systems and processes that itallowed for people to believe, and it still gave people the opportunity andthe right to have their own. You know to use their rights to be able tocontribute to what society is and then it turns out like it is so far fromwhat we thought it was going to be, and it really it's again like paradimshifting. I don't know if that was a word. You think of like it reallychanges its completely changes, the landscape of how we move forward postthe world we live in now. So it's yeah. It is just like how youknow it's constantly evolving to, and I think that's the hard thing aboutknowing exactly what's going on is what we're finding ut more and more and asthese things, dilv deeper and depe we're going to we're going to getfurther into it. Ars as it goes along because we're going to have moreinformation, nd we're going to have greater perspectives, but I think themore you're thinking about these sort of things, the better the better itthought it is for all of US- and I guess this is kind of my finaltalking point that I had on it, and it was something that I feel was reallyinteresting. If there's anything that you want to put a bow on as well orjust continue to go like I'm happy to keep guy ts totally fine with me. Butfor me I had like a really interesting thought. It was like well, it's beenkind of building up over the last couple of weeks, but this week itreally dawned on me like how much my mentality about certain things haschanged and the easiest way for me to articulate. It is just through theconspiracy theory right so before this thing happened so basical before s covid hit.The straying shows you know around this time March of last year I was reallylike. I was really firmly in the corner of like these things are all preplanes,and this is this is all part of a greater plan of things that have beendealt over from a long time and people have been working towards whatever's,going to be working towards for a long time and like thees, some a little bitof Biblical history in that regards from over two years ago, two thousandyears ago, like very different ream with thinking, but even now, men like I,I would consider myself if I was like a ten on the conspiracy theory scale. Icertainly was like. I know tens like I'm, not a ten. If I wasn't, if I was aseven and a half, I'm like a three NAI brow and it's not that it's not thereanymore, it's it's. It is just I'm seeing a bigger picture and I don'tknow like an maybe I'm still undercided on exactly where I said in terms of thegreater landscape of anything. Maybe you know one thing that the guys cansay they got a victory with the sea. What T whatd? We call them the the CTS.The conspiracy theories to cts is, you know like information gatheringlike every week. Oh now, you've got a sign and you've got to give youinformation over so like how much is that a play on things or how much isthat is just something that was needed to be done. I don't really know, butmaybe this is a question back to you and from like UESS twelve months ago. wasthere? Is there one thing? Are you able to it's a difficult question becauseit's so open ended and it could be everything or it could be nothing, buthas what would you say has been your mindsep shift from where you weretwolre months ago to now, after being through the experience we have over thepast year in regurt to conspiracies particularly no sujust in regards tolike a mindset like so for me it s, even though it was like a conspiracyoutlet that I was thinking through like I assume that's the way the worldworked, and now I'm so like I'm so less inclined to believe that it's a greaterplan by this small group of people that are designing it. That I believe it'sthere is corruption all around us. But I also feel as though there is an evillike. I think. A lot of these things are just happening because people don'tknow what the fackt they're doing as well. So that was a big shift of mebecause I'm now in a space of like I, don't even really care anymore and it'slike it doesn't consume me the way it used to you know what you just gave my answerliterally there. So I don't think these people that we talk about a small groupof people who are you know sining the the the high mighty and the powerfuland bullicg strings. I don't think that's true at all, and I don't know if I ever did either, butpart of me was every so often was amused by the fact that that is apossibility right. So it was. It was a nice idea to blame blame on aparticular group of people that may or may not exist, so it was nice. You know,is Nice Nobelety to think about that, but I think now. I know that GovernorMan- let's just put it this way- government couldn't figure out withcouldn't keep, couldn't do a simple task of having people arrive from overseas andkeeping him in a fucking hotel, yeah lio come up with you. Let alone come upwith grand plans to take over the word right. You know to a so well put right.Australia couldn't develop an APP that wasn't wasn't half by some kid in India,Australia. You know they couldn't come...

...up with an APP that would actually workright. You know so they couldn't come up with websites. They couldn't developa website that actually stayed stable for a period of three months. If so,this yeah I to yeah- I don't like- I don't think Ouer government has themeans. No, the mental capacity, particularly not the talent, to be ableto pull something like that to Massemon Thi sort of thing yeah an Anagreido. Idon't think they they don't even have there's no way they have the mentalcapacity. Know the talent required to do that. sohidly. I think it'd be foulif wefools Arrin, to think that you know that they we that they can achievesomething like that. There's a help show hat the theyre playing these cardsjust to track us as stuff and to be completely honest, even if they'retracking us, I can cuarantee you, they don't know what to do with that. Dara, because Sucha heahe Ham. What are thewhat's the play? Nd they're, going to form Latte Yeah? What are they going todo to the data Righti? Because if they did right, if they knew the greatestexample of that is right, they would use that Dara to you know, improve t toto do something right and, as we've known, they've done nothing right andmost of the most of the, for example, most like remember, couldtha cove nineteen AP Taastrallia release right. That was an absolutefailure right, so you know the AI was crashed over and over again it was youknow, piece of Shit and then you look at you know, look aor the day. It goes back to thewhole thing. Right. Government spends money on particularinfrastructure that they think is going to work to do something, but becauseit's such a beocbeaucratic, beeocratic prucraticsystem, nothing awer actually works properly. Anyway. Ian Guarantee youthat data that's being collected by new supppers AP that you have to check in,I can almost guarantee you that's sitting on a particular sorwere beingabsolutely wasted that data could be used for so much even for public good,but I can get at Ou is just sitting there doing nothing, because just theway things work right to to probably, for example, to develop a new button ina APP. They have to go, get checks from thei supervise and then they supervisand then they superviseand. Then they manager, you know so anything I e, Idon't think anything. Il Ever actually happens from that end, I don't thinkthey're capable of doing sose things totally totally, and I guess outside ofthe scope of conspiracy theory and more towards your personal development oryour own perspectives on life or whatever else is. Can you pinpoint anything from twelve monthsago to now like? What's what sort of your life looking like now and have younoticed? Is there one thing that you can speak to or just a concept orsomething that has really changed the most about you that you can that you believe is the most differentto who you were from you know a year ago to now yeah, that's a very goodquestion, actually siit's a hard one yeah, it's a good! It's a very goodquestion. I would definitely say I feel I feel a bit more lamer. If that makessense right, I feel like I'm not as exciting as I used to be. So obviously is you know the bot you were talkingabout earlier. Ou be important, Itud, be nice to see what those premiers andthose leaders look like before and after I think gove nineteen had thatsame effect on practically all of us, so I definitely feel little bit. tigtlytightlylittle yeah a little bit. You know slower and not as exciting or beexcited about things as I used to be so people er, like it really did, take outthe optimism out of a lot of us where they didn't necessarily completely killit, but it might take a couple of years to develop that back, but it definitely did take a little bit oftole on me in sense of optimism and excitement for things. It's and like those kind of things, Ithink, is probably probably a huge impact, and now again you could go intoconspiracy and say was that what theyre plan was allanyeah that' a Greata pictur yeah, H, igtrso. I definitely think that was theeffect. I think I also learnt a lot as well to be more thankful and gratefulfor what we have. I think, those yeah with a couple of months, a o Spen, thatI was thinking as well yeah. Definitely I think the positive Spein is the factthat I definitely feel a litte more connected to g, the smaller things inlife appreciating being able to do a live podcast, so to speak than do thinkthey coul just Ye. We necessarily need to hang out or, like you know, thingslittle things that are worth being thankful for that we'renot normally tace for so that, and so I think those are the two things andI feel, like TEU'll, probably be a normalizing effect in a year or two,where we probably won't be as grateful as we are for things, but well stillkeep a little tid of that and we'll start becoming optimistic and excitedabout everything again, but just not as...

...excited and optimistic as we used to be.I think our lifetime for rest of our lifetime. I think well, probably havethe little little tiny fragment of cobenineteen, not notnecessarily the forest, but h in thelaetains yeah, but but the virus that was that wouldmentally plag us for rest of our life would probably remain. I think yeahsome resudy right and the I think, a good way to look at it from that pointof view, and that example is like a rubber bad effect like you spread therubber band out as the more you pull the rubber bein apart, the fervoritgoes, the more the threads tear the more the fur of the freds apart come,and then it comes back eventually. As soon as you release the pressure offthe rubber band, it slowly starts to come back. The robber ban might notever look the same again it's going through those experiences, but it doesstart to get back to how it looked before with different,like life experiences and different little. You know different different hurdles and everything elsethat's been through and from there we can progress through like this newscope and that's ultimately, what experience is for me and you who areboth twenty five soon to be twenty six. My friend, I know I haven't told youthis yet, but I'm coming down for Insactday to Sydney so oka I'll see youfor your birthday. Wellso, that's yeah super exciting, but yeah. So, that'syou know, that's that's part of what our life is in, something, certainlysomething that you know abbeyis going to be part of your future. Kids aregoing to know about so like it's it. It is Awae noisabs.Okay, that's the name of this. This podcast right, so yeah covid's, been in a fair few. I've heardnames, but I feel like it's. It needs to be covid. Nineteen Semicolon it isward. It is ID he sound like that. It sounds brilliant, very good, Aythiosing out of yourself mit anything else. I need to get off that Harry Chestter,Yours, I just wantit anted you to kind ofanswer that question as well, that you kind of gave me because I think thatwas a nice question. So what do you I mean? You kind of answered it, but Ijust want you to Cla like, and you know begin the answer again. So we know youranswer as well. How do you think it shifted your view? Imbotense of youknow, think you answer the conspiracy toory one, but in the sense of Wrady, how do you? Howare you different, or how do you think, different as a person befor? I thinkreyou can consivirasy angle, it's still difficult for me to articulate, becauseI still feel like I'm evolving on that point of view, but it certainly feelsless consuming and I'm far less tired to my thoughts and idiologies, and I'vealso seen the people that are really into that world like how much this isactually gripped them as much as they've been trying to be on the fightand trying to counter it like how much I've seen t et take over theirpersonalities and their thoughts, and I think that's what's actually caused meto shift away from it and try to realignn reassess that sort of thing sonot being over antumed in that regards Bein Great. But from a personal pointof view, it's linked pretty close to the to your one as well, and that'sobviously in great timing with becoming a dad now and during this process andhaving a baby who's over eight months old now, which is so crazy to thinkabout, and it's just realigning reshifting kind of my perspectives onthe things that I need to appreciate. The things an init need to be thankfulfor, and that's a great way to live life, because you can constantly goback to the well and you can keep refueling yourself and those sort ofthings on your tough days whenever things don't look like th, the pastoreisn't as green as you'd like them to be am through certain seasons of your lifelike you can always be really appreciate of every little thing thatwe have and things that were so blessed to have like friendship like family- and you know I mean, let's not forgetour Lord and Savour Jesus Christ as well like this, has been a massive partof you know. This has been a huge six month for me in terms of my spiritualgrowth as well, so I think that's definitely the biggest part and justbecoming a better man and a better person and hopefully being able to helpmore people, because that's ultimately you know, as we've said before, that'sthe thing that that we put on this Erf to do so. I feel more better equippedto help people through their difficult times through this difficult time. Sofuckit, that's pretty good man. That's brilliant! That's that's! APPOSITIV!Note! In a half I mean I can't even say these what it is itbecause, it's Thir'senough, a lebutno yea. I love Itawasa, Nice rting, O you do brother all right,that's being you know, repup I'Lldo Way. Let me do the plug in then yourappabrite check it ocherily check us out on the CLABERTAMIS podcast otcom toAcom. Don't know ye right, so clever, Tam is podcast. Otcom you can check, isonn check us out on spodify the CLIMBI timis podcast or Google podcast orwherever you get your podcast. We are also on apple podcast as well find uson instagram. The COMBER TAM is podcast Olso on facebook. The claver time ispodcast and that's pretty much everything on that note Lokland. I willlet you take away. It's been a Brillin podcast. That's all we need to know yeaanother great one. Thank you so much do...

...this has been excellent and it's alwaysgood to Hawe about how about brain laves going in the same direction andjust seeing the magic grik grate pouring out the jug. That's inside USbaby. So I very much appreciate it and t everyone. That's listened and haslistened, is Continuto. Listen. We really appreciate it. We promise to notbe like the last five years of Telis his career and start to decline. Wepromise that this is only up and up from here, I'm just joking, butabsolutely if there's anything int I conversation or anything in the past,but particularly in what you've heard tonight that I spark maybe a thought oropposite opinion or even if you agree with us just let us know dm one of oussors shoud US e messure through the clever dummies podcast. That'ssomething that we're certainly going to focus on for the rest of this year, andwe just would love that interaction to know what you guys are thinking as well,because I kind of feel like we're on we. You know we're on a good path here andwherewe're on to be doing bigger things, so if you guys have any import oranything that you'd like to add or just any sort of sparking of conversation,that's my favorite thing about podcast is like kind of giving the brain wavestaking over and everything else. So yeah. We absolutely love you guys. Wereally appreciate your listening and you know until next time. Baby we willsee you, then this is being the clever dummis podcast, I'm lucky. As alwaysjoined by Nick Tell You mammy Lova give her a kiss for me good night.

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