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The CDP // Ep26: The Broken Metric System

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The CDP // Ep26: The Broken Metric System: In this episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast we are talking about the broken Metrics we all walk around with. So what's the solution? Let's Chat about it.

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Hey get everyone welcome to episodenumber twenty six of the clever dummies podcast, i am your host is always luckyjoined by an k going tonight. My brother, i'm great, you know just aliving life as always, and it's a good to be here to a u k, o beautiful mondaynight at nine and forty eight pm. Currently, so you know there's no.Where else i would rather be. I mean mostly because i'm in locked on- and ican't really be anywhere else, but you know you nor nosy, it's good to be heretopic to you, yeah. Well, that's right, and you know it's only for essentialreason if we should be leaving the building- and i assume there's lessthan five people currently in your premises. At the moment you just likeso like there might be a little bit of background. Noise is coming for a bit,but just sounds like your family is having a good time there. So, if youguys can hear every time a next speaks, if you hear a little bit of backgroundnoise, just pretend he's in you know he's in he's in a busy strip. More donesome work or something like that so now it sounds like good to me brow, but imean how's. It been down there like we've been, you know. This is the firsttime that the regional new, so wells has been kind of aligned with thegreatest sidney in terms of restrictions and and sort of theprotocols we ve to go with so for the better part of last year. We were sortof you know we couldn't travel as easily, but we were sort of you know wedidn't. We didn't quite have the same sort of restrictions that we've allsort of been put on so how's it been down in in sydney anyway, i'm guessingtraffic's, probably better. That's probably your positive to look at. Oh, i'm, absolutely loving, going towork right now, because i jump on the n for and i'm there in, like thirtyminutes under thirty minutes. At times you know it's just brilliant to drivingthat no traffic, it's like you know. I remember it almost reminds me of m forback when i first got my license, and you know that's what i kind of remindsme of it's like that: two thousand and two thousand and thirteen and wow it'sbeen a minute or two thousand and thirteen. I s e, you holy shit, so itis well. I just hit me so yeah, it's pretty brilliant. I mean yeah, it'snice to have no traffic, but in saying that you know, i just think grant ladisburn to clean our. You know, luscious leader finally decided thatyou know. Maybe it was time up time to come up with a new excuse to a aston.Now, i'm joking, i'm joking right, i think i think now i mean. Obviously theinteresting thing is because you know i would be blake all right. You know notenough people have vaccinated this. Is you know a quick, easy, just call it amarketing scheme a quickly as the pro qui to get people vaccinated, but thething is the the things really fucking available for anyone anyway, so itdoesn't make any sense, but it just. I guess you know, you know what i'mreally confused about as to like what the goal is like it's at the beginning,like certain intentions of the government will clear it right, theywere saying we want to flatten this cur right. Yeah, we just and the big kindof risk, or the thing they wanted to avoid was just you know, i'm sorry tocut off, but it was like making sure our our hospital in our medical systemwasn't overwhelmed right. So it was, you know what we know how bad thisthing can get. We know how quickly can spread. We don't want to get to a pointwhere we're not able to let people in a hospital so we'll play the safe card,and then, when we get our medical system once we figure it all out, thenwe'll pay it by hands. Well, you know it's been over twelve months now andthey're still kind of using the same strategies and not implementing thatsort of that sort of you know strategy, or iguess i ideology, even that they had last year was like hey. We just don'twant to over. On a medical system, but now it's like that's all forgotten andi don't know like do you think it could be. There's obviously heaps ofpolitical pressure, and the interesting thing is at all the different stategovernments that are sort of like talking shit behind each other's back,they're saying this that and the other...

...and lock the borders down, and thatsort of thing. So there definitely feels like a lot of it's driven by thepolitical motivation and the consideration of the public. It hasdefinitely not been you know really. I mean they say that it's to protectpeople, but there's this you know, that's just a statement. There's reallyno evidence to support that what it almost feels like i mean. Ilove what you said. They that's literally what i was about to say rightso just i'll say one thing and then i'll kind of reak up what i was talkingabout. So it literally feels like it's like the government is kind of playingtheir own little game in their own corner and then there's us so kind ofjust like i, the population of the public right, just kind of suffering,the reprocessing of whatever entitle whatever the game that they playing,because it has become very political. I mean you know, you got all the stateleaders right, you got, the premus of different states are just throwing, butyou know throwing things out there about the you know: central governmentor the? U k, o the federal government- and you know the federal government isjust kind of like kind of trying to be. You know that, like teachers like justlike, oh yeah, we're trying to do the right thing is like well, none of youguys are doing the wide thing, your guys, all being like really childish. Imean that's number one right number two: is the problem got? What i was going tojust recap. Is you know so, especially at the beginning of the whole copynineteen situation? There were some clear guidelines and clearcommunication as to what cup the government goals were right and whatthey were trying to achieve, but so i think that's important for us to knowwhat the government is doing because, essentially a let's not forget, thegovernment works for us right, even though it doesn't feel like it at times,but they really meant to work for us. So when you have a government who iskind of doing whatever they feel like doing without actually consulting or atleast telling us what they're doing so at the beginning, they said hey, weneed to look down because we need to flat and discurse. So we don'toverwhelm mother. You know medical systems right. Sothat's absolutely true. Second, and then, after that they said. Okay, well,let's bring down, might as well bring it to right down. So you know thespread is minimum, so we can open up and we can have a normal life. Okay.Well like okay! Well, let's extend the look dan for a bit, so we can, you know, just almost eradicate the radicatevirus right at the at the same time. They also said we cannot radicate awars. This is the new normal remember that was he. That was the world right,so this show yeah, so we can't eradicate or wise will haveto live with it until everyone is vexing it or vaccinated. But now it'slike what are we doing. Are we eradicating the virus because you knowclearly we're feeling it and, and we knew that we couldn't eradicate advicebut with some reason, keep looking back not looking down and- and we also werelied on the vaccine and we shut everything down. We, you know,particularly in melbourne, like i remember, they're, getting like thirtycases and were like locked on for months. You know all that happened. You know at what a what result wehaven't even cortin vaccinated, i mean at the moment, is like less than thirtypercent of the stolons have been vaccinated so that the first one and you men toget two noses and less than eight percent have both. So it's yeah, it'spretty crazy. So it seems like there's like a there's, the obviously there's alack of supply, because there's not enough. You know the people you justcan't go, walk in and get vaccinated because we don't have enough of therecommended one, which is the fires, are over astros aniko. So you need tobe. You know in that sort of. I don't know the category is bettingneed to be like a school teacher, you need to be a medical work like thatsort of front line thing which totally makes sense and like they're. Obviouslythey seem to be obsessed with that zero case. You know number as soon asanything like that gets put in jeopardy. You know they sort of pull the triggerreally quickly. I was i had some of you said sort of triggered a thought in myhead. I can't remember exactly what it was, but when you think about it, justto quickly touch us something the other day, i did a good. You know for thoseaccent level lovers out there and in a quick little hypothesis, analysis and idid figure out at the current rate of...

...vaccination and given how many peoplethey have to vaccine right at the runt rate. It will take another fifteenmonths before the at or even even on before. Seventy percent of austriliaare vaccinated, yeah, that's what they're looking at er. They want thatsort of seventy eight percent, so yeah, that's so crazy! Right and, like youthink, with this most recent, you know this most recent stint of restrictions.You think they're going to be able to put some money towards somewhere to beable to get a supply. I don't know exactly where the vaccines are comingfrom. I know there was a partisan where we were making some in house, but idon't think that's the one they want to go ahead with. This is what i was goingto say. So it's really interesting because you know, and rightfully so early on,they were really. They were really convicted at adhering to a strainmedical advice and the like. The medical ministers of each state wereessentially the ones that had the power to determine what kind of needed tohappen in terms of restrictions and lockdowns and and protocol, because youknow it's a virus that we've never really seen. We haven't really seenbefore. Certainly in this magnitude, but like ultimately those guys theironly job is to think about it from a medical point of view. They don't haveto way up the you know the societal, this, thepsychological and you know in a large part, they don't have to weigh up thefinancial ramifications of these lockdowns as well, yet they're stilladhering to this medical advice that is certainly well intentioned in't, i tend to steer away from the id thattheir corrupts, like, i think, they're just doing what you know just like whata doctor would do is here on the side of caution, but at the end of the day like we're, allbusinesses were all business people, even if we're just talking aboutrunning our own lives like it's essentially a business and not enoughof that m financial, not enough of that financial elementhas been taken. It can consideration considering how many people we havehadget the virus and, more importantly, how manypeople have been hospitalized or how many deaths we've had like a stillunder a thousand. You know well into twelve months of victor being inaustralia, so i think we're still we're still relying too heavily on the healthministers to control the narrative. If that makes sense the is it me or have you noticed thathealth, when it's just himself seem pretty shaky like that, doesn't seemlike their words, don't seem. The thing is right: he siting thanks to theinternet right because they're not they're, not really meant to be in thisspace like their men to give advice and they meant to say like hey. This iswhat we should probably do. This what's been going on overseas they're notmeant to have the pressure of you know. Stopping people from earning a livinglike financing and health isn't necessarily related like it's. Doesthat make sense like there they're not a to be in this position: they're, notthey're, not qualified or they're, not really. That's why they're sort of likeyou know they have to play the the yeah yeah i mean i mean if the if the wordwas run by doctors, i'm sure none of us would leave. Homes, like you know,would stay at home every you know you know we we go out in the sun wouldnever go to the beach. Definitely i tink you that never get into the car.In fact we wouldn't even lay in the bed, because you get bad sous. You know thething is the thing. Is it's all interestingbecause listening to those particularly the what's the one for the new settlesone is that jenny is that her name, i usually looks like she looks like a shebeen smacked over the head with a frying, pan, yeelish witch craft. To me,like he's not been adhering to the recommended nutritional guideline, atayo know with all jokes aside like no disrespect to her, but it seem like itseems like she doesn't. I mean i'm sure she has some sort of a doctrine or psright to hundred soins. You would have experience in the husband yeah, youthink so, but i e'shen she talks right. It doesn't seem convincing. It seemslike she's, just saying things that she doesn't even believe herself but she'slike. I have to say this because i have...

...all the choice so that i find reallyinteresting a that's a lot of that for sure. So it's a a contradictions. Yes, so that i find really interestingand then who's that other guy, the i think is a nibs or on yeah he re lime yeah. He looks once againit's like: where are you finding these people? One of the guys i thought wasall right was actually all right and kind of knew what he was talking about.Also also another victorian one. It was that asian dude, his name o alan allan, something right.He i thought he kind of knew what he was talking about, because he gavereasons for everything right, yeah, that's right, that's right where theother ones just seem like they just found them like they really goodactress, but oh they not really good access and yeah they linking their like.It seems like they're linking some of their health science towards thenarrative of politics that needs to adhere to the current. You knowsocietal restrictions. We have at the moment, like they're, not just talkingabout how many people need to get the you know. They are talking about that,but then they're starting to go off about again, like it's intertwining,the the politics and the finance in between with the medical, and i thinkthat's why you're seeing them like stumble and fumbling their words,because they're they're talking out of scope and they're really outside oftheir own level of understanding and they're, obviously listening to thepremiers or the prime ministers or other politicians, and so this sort ofit's just like when you you know like when you talk about a particular topiclike if i talk about like anatomy right like i can kind of know what i can kindof i mean those guys are different because they're like qualified andyou'd think in order to be a health minister of a state like you would haveto be in the system for a while and show like great initiative. And youknow i mean sometimes politics politics about kissing us, but you think thatwould have to be like you know, high level, academics right, but once youget into like you know, if you start talking about finance and you you're ahealth ministeries like well, it's that's, not my field of expertise. Sothat's what it seems like for me. I guess yeah and i think there is probably apart of that right. There's there's a level of probably there were a goodacademics, also a level of that they were a bit of a good cacas as right. Sothere's probably a bit of a always pray always like. If you look at a peoplethat were school captains right like they, i wells, but they were well andtruly their knees or were like cassii, be actually who i was going to say,hold that thought, but not really, because i'm a want to to kind ofaddress this right now, because i've been kathi has been on my mind for allthis time. Right. Actually, i just know what i want to talk about today. So i'mon quickly, if you not not a few things down ili, you know. So if you antakeatalking for a second yeah, that's so good! That's all i so yeah! That'sthat's the what it seems like to me and i'd actually be interested. If for youguys that are listening if that kind of makes sense like i don't listen to alot of it and and for right reason like i i we all know it's bad. We all know it'ss, not what we should be consuming on a regular basis. It's always good tocheck in and kind of know what's going on, but you can just tell theinterviews and the people asking you the questions of these press commencesand there's like an hour of it per day, so they just it's the same crap justgetting beat into my head, and it just feels so like it just feels like sogross to listen to all this sort of thing. So it is hard and, like i'm sure,there's more people that have you know the ear to the ground a little bit more,but it is just like it's to the point now where it's like so ridiculous, butat the same time you know, is there a lot we can do about it? Not really knowi mean so that's kind of interesting in itself. Yeah. Okay, sorry, i just noticed you thinkxaca. I just colia this. My this whole road map opened up my brain soon, as wesaid that one thing: that's, okay, were they in the right map a pride? So it'sabsolutely interesting but and then, like you were saying right, it is. Itis a toxic. This whole situation is toxic right and, and the biggest effectis right and the reason we keep up...

...talking about it and the reason i'mstill talking about it. I stop watching the news. I don't really check thegases anymore. You know it's a low down at the moment the cove virus is around.I try. I adhere to the rules. I don't go out as much as sure yeah as much asi like. As all that shit we mask, and i do that all the stuff you know i spentyou know my all day at work with a mask on as well today. So look, i see thethreat right and i see, and i don't want to get sick and i don't want myfamily to get sick. I don't mak get my dad to sick it. It right. I hear allthose things, but in saying that right- and this is for some coming fromsomeone from my i'm talking for my generation for asecond right and but i know i'm not, i'm not normally a kind of person whowould whine, but for a second i'm going to step into the shoes of my generationright. Our generation has taken a long er heats over the years right, not notstarting from hyper inflation. We have to deal with all whelming house prices.You know the the criteria of like getting to being successful indifferent jobs is harder and than ever before, right it's insane right. So welive in our gination. Had to deal deal with a lot or to not to mention with,like you know, changing social dynamics and talking about men like you know thefact that where men have to deal with the fact mot women have to deal with,there is so much happening for my generation and i kind of feel bad forour generation like millenial and and the generate the generation after us.The gen said right because right now, they'd be graduating union and you knowgetting it to job work force, but all of them probably won't get any jobs oranything because millennials with the double degrees and phds that are ofjobs, so of course, they're going to get the job first anyway. So so it'slike with all that aside, it's literally at the moment, i feel likeparticularly our age group, is like wee sport to haley last week right, our generation at the moment is in atthe time where they make a lot of big decisions in their life right. So rightnow, most of a people like either my age, people or harris people aregetting married. You know deciding to have their first kid or you know,buying a house or you know to a finally choosing the right career, what workswith them and all these decisions that they're making right now is, or youknow, some of them. I guess we're all in different stages, but most of ourstarting to get serious on our life, or this is a time when we get serious forlife right. So with all this cove nineteen stuff andlike what the way australia is doing it. What i, what is doing is literallychipping away years from our life, and we are unable to do those things. Youknow, and i think not only that's actually you know tis. You know almost like inhibitingour ability do those things, but i think it's actually majorly majorlycausing huge diswade for us, because those two sad ventages aren't for thepeople who are wealthy to begin with, because our generation is the one whois like eighty percent in the casual workforce right because we were themost more creative generation right. So most ery percent of us are in casualwork places because we wanted to see how what we could do and change theword. And now, while i'm at it, i want to say ourgenaton has been the one that has made the most amount of difference anyway.So with all those things said like youknow, let's say those rising house prices right. They lowed the interestrate right down, so you know people can buy house right, so economy gets movingright. Economy is not going to move because well, it's not going to help usbecause none of us can afford houses now, because all those rich people arebuying houses and, of course the rich people are going to get re yeah justgetting o they're going to get more richer because you're not charging theminterest rate, but us people who need to buy the houses and at the areas thatwe need to buy analysis. We can't afford the houses right, so i think thegovernment over all. Once again, i keep saying this has majorly filled us andparticularly the younger age group. I feel like have been the mostdisadvantage, even though i know the virus effects more of the older people,but it's the younger generation the trauma that we will carry for th restof our life from the years that we...

...missed out on, like i mean think aboutpeople like, let's say if you were single at the beginning of covernineteen, two years later, you still single because you got to go out tofucking half of the year as you couldn't meet. Anyone right. You knowyeah, so you know. So that's just a small example. Now you know youprobably not going to have kids in the two years time because you might haveried, so you it's like practically. We just took a whole generation and youknow check a mad shit on their face. I mean weadon that previously, but youknow we did it again and then you know i feel bad for gen g, the generation tocome after us, because they i mean they were started suffering with mentalillness and all that because of all the technology- and that was very newtechnology- is not bad. It's just that ecology was new, so they were learninga lot, how to deal with it and all of a sudden they spent in the past two yearshad locked up and now dey tidn't leave the rooms to begin with. Now they weretold they can't leave their room. So you know it's now thays going to beanother generation, but doesn't know how to talk to people. I think a lot ofpeople i actually not even when ever going to come out of this phase of justbeing at home. You know, because i know i actually find it much harder to goout now than i did a couple of years ago or like a year ago, because no,it's not because i don't want to it's just it feels easier to be at homebecause i'm so used to being at home all the time. So anyway, that's mylittle, and- and i really do hope that you know- maybe the government wakes upor our generation once again comes to the rescue of the world. I think a lotof like my s, people that i speak to in various forms of the other like theymight not agree on everything, but for the majority of it they are everyone'sin the same boat. You know what i mean like there is there's a largerseparation between the people and the government, and you know that has beenfor a long period of time and i'm sure during war times, and particularlyafter vitena, those sort of things like it was certainly there too andobviously weren't alive to speak to it. But this is definitely the most thatwe've ever experienced it and you know you've things like automation andadvancement of technology. Obviously we're in a time now is decide or shiftin regards to jobs and certainly in regards to pay andemployment like casual, more people are paid and employed casually and parttime than ever before. Just because the way the systems set up and penaltyrates, or as little as they've ever been so like we're kind of in thatlittle transitional phase now and fortunately, and unfortunately, likethat's kind of the role that we've been given. But like there definitely doesseem to be a fair bit of social conditioning goingon getting people used to or kind of forcing people to adapt to acertain new way of life, and you know these lockdowns, obviously covin, i'msure was you know it wasn't socially engineered and it wasn't put out therelike in order to adhere to it like i anobviously the way that it's coming out now that the way that was started itwas spread like it was, it was made, it was actually a mad made virus. Wasn'tyou know? I wasn't naturally made so like those sort of things are scary,but that's just kind of an advancement in technology and people just gettingto ahead of themself like, if i'm sure, you've heard of gene editing and thatsort of thing like these, these things that are to come like just going to getto a stage where humans are going to get to like we kind of had with hisvirus like we, it kind of got out of him because we didn't know we'redealing with and all a sudden like. We got this massive issue. I can onlyimagine if there's a global financial crisis or one of these other thingsthat affects people in a different way like how easy and that's kind of theissue with technology some in some ways, as those sort of things are more likelythan they ever have been be. You know that's kind of theevolution of the human race in a sense like, with greater greater things likeradote, hnickar or of technological advancements. Barely get that word outlike the ability to communicate with people across the world where you'regoing to come with new in you know more money, more problems like you know,you're going to come with new different things as well. So like a lot of thesethings are just part of you know have...

...happened since humans have been aroundlike we've evolved and then our problems have evolved as well, but yeah.I certainly i certainly worry and am very concerned for obviously the mentalhealth of a lot of people and myself included, but you know i'm old enough now and i'vedealt with it enough to be able to get through this pretty pretty easily. I'mcertainly worried, for you know my daughter and people a little bit olderand people that are going to be born after her that they're going to bebrought up in this world, where gender, gender roles and even people'sbeliefs are so widely criticized that people just don't havea safe place to go to in any sort of opinion that people might have. Insteadof educating people or just understanding that people come up fromdifferent walks of life and view the world on a different way. You've alredgot to think a certain way of wise you're, like outcasted ofe as you're abad person for it and that's what leads to you know: people's mental healthdeteriorating. Obviously, and then you know, we've got social media where, asbeautiful as social media is and it's a tall, if you know how to use the toollike it can be the best thing in your life. But the it's very easy likecomparison is: that is the killer of joy. You know that's a great sort ofsaying that i've read recently and that's so true, particularly youngerpeople. Even older people are affected by it to most definitely like. I've hadconversations with people in their forties and is that are dealingstruggling with social media, but the young people that don't have the lifeexperience to understand what social media actually is, and it's people youknow putting the best part of their life in certain areas and then ascomparing it to our shit part of our lives and that not doing the well. So ithink that's what really concerns me for sure, but at the same time, likeit's kind of our responsible responsibility for the people that arestrong and the people that are, you know who can see and our own sight fulin this sort of way to try to lead the future generation. You know if you'vegot kids or if you're not like. If it's about just creating a narrative andcreating discord that, like it's, okay to you know, we yeah, i don't know, ithink i know i think you know what i'm trying to say is absent on put a bow onthe end of it. I hear you, i think you actually did. I articulate that i thinkone of the things that i- and this is the reason almost see we always talkabout so many different things on this podcast, and sometimes we go very ofcourse, and just have a nice conversation which is yeah one of thethings that i think originally when we started this podcast one of the thingswe said we will do, we will have the conversations yeah. We definitely which we've done all the way through which we've done all the way throughright, but one of the key things that at least we are having the conversationand one of the things that i always say. I want to make a difference in theworld and we always say you know when to change the word right. I don't thinkthe words going to change in one hit and then i don't think i'm capable ofsome doing something like that. I mean, i think the only person who's capableointing is probably the oonak or or jeffersons, but none the less, i'm surethey're trying, but that's all their soight. They live. They live for thethey leave for their business. Bray like in its is not all this cut out tobe right, but but you know you know, the thing is we're having thisconversation, so i think it's important the reason i bring this up- and i saythis old this thing apart from just getting it off. My chest is maybe if wejust talk about it, it starts the conversation right because yeah rightnow right now, it's a pretty unspoken. It's like before goin nineteen rightbefore co. Nineteen. There was a weird, really eery feeling right, and iremember actually saying this to you lockland. I was saying i think for the past like from let's say youknow, maybe almost like fifteen twenty years, like nothing really had happened.If that yeah there was a real calm before the storm man yeah. So there wasa real calm before the storm right and then everything was just going tosmooth right and pay everything.

Everyone got way to content, and youknow to quit to sensitive social justice was going crazy, but like thatwas the biggest issue in the world is because i so on yeah social justice washuge and it still is huge, but on erything, that happened was in a waywhere people started to become not necessarily almost. I want to sayungrateful. I that's. The word, i think, is the easiest way to describe itwithout getting too much into it. Right for and then lost the appreciation forthe blind, hot life and struggle on, and that's and you know dear, i say:let's not, let's not forget about the people who still suffering those calmtimes anyway, but yeah. I think i think there there was a sense of complacencythat who, as human just got you know what it is, what it is we have a youknow we have a new iphone coming out. Every year thing seems to be prettygood at the biggest struggle that we had at the time was like home going toford the next i found like so you know. So is all good right, andthen we weren't thinking about our savings and all that stuff like now. Weare forced to think about all those things, because on tison the world isless unpredictable and you know working in business. I saw so many businessesthat i e to an let's change your ways: thou the future like the time is itwhen you do can at me. Everyone is like you know. No, it's all good. Why iremember i tithing about when we were started, the podcast. I was a fitbeforehand like that. You yes you're well into that, like de i pocasse needto change with times and no one listen at the time and then because they saidwell, why? The thing that i always heard was why i think something whenit's not broken right, that the problem is the opposite of broken is not great.The is you know it does. If it's not broken, it doesn't mean like nat yeah,it's i yeah yeah. It doesn't mean it's the right thing right. You know, and ithink whether starts by whether we can you know fix something. Do it better,you know what thing we can definitely make a difference and we just need tobe productive about it, but it just needs to even start with a conversationbecause y y- u n w! So hopefully you know this means something i guess, butyou know otherwise at lease i got it on my adjestin. We have this matconversation so yeah, most definitely and there's. There's heaps of likethere's heaps of these sort of things, that'll start to push itself back to the forefront ofpeople's minds once people you know once their heads back, you know backunder back out of the water put analogy out there. You know people are so kind of overwhelmed a little bit orthey're. Certainly it's the front of their mind. So yeah everyone is really. I clear, yeahyeah, that's great righton thing that i do want to say what would you mentionsocial media kind of remind me of something like that that day, i wasgoing through photos on myself right at the moment. I wait about adq and likethis is before locke on out. This is a this. This is the strongest i've everbeen just quickly to plug my stat, i'm talking about forty killer, pull ups atportici added weight, pull ups for, like the seven wraps, that's so good.This is the strongest i've ever been right, i'm to like fifty five kilosflat bench for a tip five people like you know what do you d like tin, flatflat? I was going to get to that thirty five kilos like a talk about thisprogram. Actually, after this but yeah, i like rayo, know hundred enula bench yeah crazy right.My draws are like sixty five killers single arms for ten raps over all likethe craziest conditioning, a er of being in right, but this is also theheaviest i've ever been in as well and my and i'm also being able to do handstamp pushups for like fifteen twenty raps, with no support. So this is thefirst time my body composition works in a way where my strength to wait. Risois way out like a proportion. Erious y i've been much lighter and haven't beenable to do any of these calister movements. That requires like weightright. So what's interesting is right. So at the moment i i'm brelan, but myweight is still eighty kilos right and i was looking through my pictures rightand previously, and i saw my pictures- i'm like okay. This is where i wasleaner and i feel sit about myself...

...right now, because i wait a i kill atthe time. I was sacaea roethe thing that i forgot right at the moment. I'mprobably i'm lean, but i have a lot of muscles. That's where the strength iscoming from right, yeah. So, but that's where the weight comes from as well.What i'm forgetting is when i took those photos, i made sure they were thebest angles of all time right. Her yeah's look like. I don't look likethat, because i forget the when i took that i put my past side forward, it'sfunny. If i can do that to myself think about what social media does yeah, youdidn't mean to trick yourself or you eated yeah, exactly i d, because youknow even to that, go to the mirror and take a foot like a side shot. I looklike feaking create some goosman or er, but i'm not right because it doesn'twork like that and same thing with those guys they don't look like they'relike they on their instagram. But that's like you know. You pick the bestside forward. I think that's interesting right. So it's somethingthat we forget easily yeah, but you know i bear so i'mchanging the mentality. I was like okay. Well, i should gauge my strength andthis like athletic ability that i've just discard that i've never had. Ilike omens try it like a sobs focus on body composition, and youknow with with bigger output like that, like you need bigger recovery, you alsoneed to eat a lot more as well like he. It's not just having time resting torecover like you need to refuel, and then sometimes the calories like.That's the anything with you know, strength training, as you don't burn,as many caries as may be do with other ways of working out and certainly beingat home more than we normally would be too, like we're generally eating morethan we are but like if you're as strong, and particularly if you'reconditioning like your muscular endurance, is as good as ever been.Then it's a time to like not worry, you know not worry about it. I think yeahand, like i think, like for a part of it like at the moment, i'm still i'mwatching what i eat, but i'm doing like a flie, dining style, but i just watch what i eat. I'm yeah, i'mdrinking you're, just not yeah you're, not eating like an assel but you're,not tracking. So it's just is yeah. It is a yeah, but like the thing is likenormally previously when i'd be on a diet. I'd be like you know. Let's saywhat my pm is: like you know: let's one thousand nineteen hundred i'd be onlike twelve hundred allies or a thousand caveres a day right at themoment. I'm i still track my gales, he right yeah. So at the moment i stilltrack my calories, but i'm more likely to hit like let's say i, with my own,my pice on days that i'm working out i'll hit like two thousand and fivehundred calories. So i eat, eat what i'm required to eat. Yeah hundred lessa couple hundred less in there some days more, but it averages out perweekly to be just just under my bar, so i still stay lean and yeah you're,maintaining yeah. You know in that just yeah titles. So it's interestingbecause i this is. This is a new tetere for me, because i've never had likethis much might at my leverage like at my expense, like i've, been able neverbeen able to do things that i can do, and it feels soweird that i pick up apig sixty go or like fifty five gillow and it doesn't feel like it doesn'tfeel hard that it's going to go up and it just goes up and i find it soincredible. It's like, i can't even every time i do something, i'm likewhat the fuck. How did i do that that doesn't make sense, and you know a lot-an we've trained together such a long time, pull ups has been one of myweakness to yeah to two seven. Two, eight traps for of full ups with fortykill added weight at a killers. That's actually personally, i know this is maybe impressive for myself, but let's compare to other people. I don't thinkthere's anyone at my gym, who could probably do that like easily bipinsingle plate, an one to plate so yeah now. That's amazing that so that'samazing! What are your? What are your training days? Look like at the moment.Like i skip the deadly fright. Some i've gota bad back at the moening, all the dime right, yeah, my bat back isn't great,so i haven't been dead lifting much at all, but my scouts is roughly a hundredthirty hundred forty yeah for like fabio raps. Because of my back. I tryto don't push my score, i'm much higher...

...yeah so that he may raps you doing.First, quite you're, not you're, not one aroaming, a like you, an i'm gointo kind yeah yeah. So anything, none of these things are one one drap max. Allof them are like four to six wraps yeah, that's that's it yeah! Forty six stressis what i'm doing my my theory, like, i guess, when you're training with someone all the time you can do it. You know once a month. I think it's a goodgood way to keep. You know, sort of keep a gold there and something to pushfor, but like that's certainly, i feel like that's. Where we've evolved aswell and just through experience is not always chasing that one am like i'drather four or six good, clean reps and you feel better. You've got more timeand attention like you're, not you're, not sort of prag. On your breath thatyou don't snap your shit like it's, you hat a different mentality, but one ofthe things that i just realized in it clicked in my head. Perhaps this wasmaybe i could think cobi nineteen for that i was like why or am i rushing for?I've got time of year, yeah yeah. Why not make a proper plan- and i said atthe moment, like i said, i'm s sitting on fifty five yellow incline chestbreath. My to my goal is to here sixty five and i said i'm going to hit sixtyfive by december. So, like that's that's long enough to time like i'm,not, there's no reason for me to go. Do it tomorrow right they now see. If ican do it t yeah hundred percent, but if i say if i can do it but decemberand next week i do for kills. It doesn't matter because i've got allthis time, and i can just you know, increase the reps for fifty five andthen do to rubs for six tree to four. As to sixty eventually tried. Sixteensixty sixty five kills yeah. If you doing a couple of days, awake you'llget there for sure, oh for shit, so that it doesn't, i mean, like you know,you got six months to get somewhere, it's much easier than say. Oh, let mejust to it off see what happens: yeah yeah last nime, probably getting oldand it doesn't. I don't want to risk breaking some share, but you've alsogot a certain amount of time. You know to pekia where you've got a change, soit's like kind of cash in while you can, and the tacuba heaps of big boys thatare can still bang when they're older, but like, if you're starting to noticelike certain issues through through pain. In that sort of thing like we didsort of pour the jug out when you know, like my body, recovers really well, ithink i probably should get my back checked out yeah, where, as is the pain,it's low back right yeah. I think i actually know where it's from it's notreally from lifting or any bad injury, because i spent majority of my daysitting down. Show yeah yeah in my pain actually goes down when i'm, if i spendlike, let's say, a wake of high activity. So that's why i no its fromall the sitting yeah safely yeah. I probably you've probably got to likeevery couple hours of work. You probably got a stretch for five yearsto help with that's, like you know what i mean. That's a big thing for evenpeople that train morning nights like put hours under their under theirplates, like even pts or guys, who spent who are really in good shape. Ifthey spend you know, they've got a big day at work or something and theythey're on the on their ant computer, like it just efs everyone up like thinkabout people that drive for a living. You know, i think, about like ubadrivers, taxi drivers, truck drivers think about people amount of peoplethat work in a desk like it's. Definitely that's a real panin andthat's a real sort of epidemic pandemic for sure. But now that's so good, butit's so good to hear that you are so. Is there like you, just have towear a mask at the gym like this? Is a h at the moment? Is not so theyactually shut him. Yeah yeah! I guess that's one thing coughs like or region,and i so was isn't as strict as that. It's just basks and social distancingof ously in maxim amount of people, but yeah we're still open. So obviously thesydney one is, you know yeah and i i and i'm not i'm not freaking out toomuch either this yeah, i'm actually just kind of relaxing, because i spenti think for the past three months, i've been like pushing my bodies to theearly catching light like mis time er. So i just thought i might as well takethis as a downtime, let my boy decompressed in a way, so i can go backand you know hit hotter t, so that's...

...kind of the fan, so i'm not really a myart trying to do major, runs or anything so i'm just kind of chewing ittaking me by hand yeah hundred percent, so that's easy, so so that would anyway,to the main point of all this conversation was that the most like, i think we always lookat the wrong metrics right. Well, look at people's social media and theirlikes and whatever right right now, like i look at my picture and go ohwell, why do i look like that? I think we should always look at performanceand the menaphon performance of who we are. Are we becoming better people andlook in woods and outwards? You know so so that's that's! It's a big one! Rightnow now, let's back to my the topic that iwrote down right, this episodes fricking killer, it's like so good pray,so god do it plan this right. So one of the things i was talking about youtouched on in about school captains right- and this is something been on mymind for the past week and i wanted to bring this up at some point right, soco. Other things. I've noticed right, there's two things. I won't talk aboutright. First thing: i won't talk about masculinity and i know people are goingto attack. People are tankal men all the time, but i'm a do it because i'm aman. So it's all good. It's i want to be nice about it right so number. Onething that i'm going to talk about is i've learned something about people ispeople who are serious in life right people who spend a lot of time beingserious and people, particularly those people who are very diligent in life right. They don'twant to do anything wrong and they don't want to make any mistakes, andyou know they woke up to every class and you know props to them for walkingup to every class, because you know let's be on this. I skip a few. If i'mt and i'm sure we all did right. The thing is all those people who weresuper serious in the serious steve of the world. You know they did everythingright and particularly, i m in this sense. I'mtalking about guys right, i'm so partito guys, who always did everythingright and just were serious about life right. They took life as, like. Youknow, locking you know that people i'm talking about right. You know the people i'm talking aboutright, people who just took life so seriously, yeah were just like you knowyeah. This is like. I have to take this seriously. Everything they did was likea mission right. The thing i'm going to say about them is one number: one thingis carenta influenced, you know, i'm sure it is their home life there, yeahyeah number one thing on to say is: first thing: is they their masculinitywas absent at night? First of all- and you know this- i'm doing very sordiereright, but the problem is over. All the essence of mescaline is a little messyright and i'll get into this. Why? The reason i said is right, so they alwaysdid everything wide. They didn't make any mistakes and they're still tryingto be serious. Trying to you know, get ahead, but really they end up fallingin far behind, because they don't make the mistakes you know and they wouldthey. They don't make the mistakes right and it's interesting becausethere was a study done about this and they asked this group to go out andfind a solution for something or like so they go to groups in one group theysaid hey, go, find a solution for something like that. I think it was asolution and they they said, and you have one group. They said the solutionhas to be perfect and other group, they said hey, you know, go, find a solution right, try manytimes as you like, right and other time. Other other people would all like. Youhave to get find a perfect solution. So the group who were told that they haveto find a perfect solution spend came up with a supper solution in a singlesolution right and by the time the other group had come up with manysolution and they had improved on this solution. So they ended up not onlydelivering on a barren solution, but they delivered multiple solutions wherethe group who tried to get the perfect solution only got one solution and thesolution was sub par because they spent too much time just dwelling on tryingto be perfect. So the reason i said is right, because there's people among uswho always try to get things right in the first you know and the problem withgetting things right is in action bite because nothing in life is but yeah. Istake like yeah, you know if you were...

...everything if you were perfect well,you can't be perfect, like that's a faction information right, so no needto try just might as well do things, and that was the number one thing ibring up right, and this is particularly in regards to men, becausemen who certo have like a certain level of perhaps its influence or theirpersonality are serious about life. I think life is much more joyful when youexperience it and live it and not try to be perfect all the time and a this's,not me not giving advice. This is something i just realized and i realizewhenever i feel the most, when i judge myself so heavily on trying to bebetter, that's why i feel the most i've never regretted doing. I regret i have.I don't really have regrets of doing stupid shit that i learned from. I haveregrets of doing dwelling on something for days and months and then realizingthat wasn't even worth my time and i don't even care about it after a while.So that's something in the experience i wanted to share and i personally i'mnot a perfection at all, but perfection is, but you know at times we all can pe.So i think that's something we should al. We can all lecor pray. You know,don't take my words for it. Think about what you do. You know whenever youdon't dwell just fregan say what it comes to mind right this podcast, likeimagine. If we're trying to script all these episodes, yeah would kill us,which you that's exactly right. So so that's that's! That's to that's onething i want to bring up second thing. I want to bro bring up. Let me speak onthat for a second go for back and forth and then go to your second one. Likei'm sure, you see that, in regards like you see that in marketing as well orsales or like any new product ideas or new business ideas where people are socaught up on, the you know, they're doing their due diligence and theirmarket planning and doing these sort of things, but they get so caught up onthe process is a head that they don't take the steps necessary to get thereand like that's something i struggle with as well like you just over. Try toyou know, maybe it's good intention, and sometimes it's laziness like it's.Actually, both is you you try to over you over focus on the macro when themicro is. What you need to do in micro is just like the steps that you need totake to get there and then once you sort of take enough steps to get there.You sort of realized, like i didn't need to like theorize about this. I notwhat to do now, because i have enough life experience. So is that's definitely something that ifeel like a lot of people. A lot of people deal with in their walks of lifeand for sure, like i'm in marketing, and in that i'm sure that's massive aswell as i e just giving people to pull the trigger in, like just do the namethlike create the content that you want to create and do these sort of things absolutely i mean if you ever thinkthat you're what you're doing is not good enough. Let me tell you somethingright: have you ever realized how many apps that google themselves laugh theirmulti billion dor memet, compare that barely work right? Let's talk aboutthat for a second, let's talk about how many, how often instagram crash whenthe release a new upter. Let's talk about the apt that that uncomplete aptthat our government released as the spent to the anomos on ef that didn'teven work, so it doesn't matter what you, if you got it right or not long asyou do, something is much more important than just dwelling on theidea and getting it right right. So a example i want to give you lock- andthis is interesting because a couple of my friends actually said i failed atsomething right. So one of the things i want to talk about, i started bombing books right, which isla clothing. Like a you know, man's successor company, right by by most standards, bombex didn'tbecome a million dollar company like i hoped right, but what bombyx did do isintroduce me to the land of e commerce that i learned so much more about and iwork in the current position is by e comes dreman company. I had. I haduppose of almost sixty projects that have completed because of e commerce. Iknew body commerce and i learned about the commerce, because i decided tostart a company and i just did it right? Okay, one could say all you didn't makea million dollars, so your e commise business was fill. I was like well, ithink it's otherwise. I think my echometer may have not made a milliondollars, but it made me much more money...

...than what what you're doing right. Itactually made me real monetary value, because i got project not only a godwho told you that did at even tell you that is it. Is i telling about your failed poppy box antell you that he d a b e this? This is what they said right and i'm not goingto say. I call them at not at a couple of that we were like. Oh, youcould have done it so much better. You just yeah i so i was like okay, yessure sure were right there, all probably right right. What i'm sayingis there to ways to look at it? Whether you could say you know a didn't become.He didn't do the sales that i would have liked to do so or i could look atit. I learned so much more and i actually probably end probably will endup earning way more money because of what i learned then what i would havelearned, what would what i would have gained if i actually did the rightthing and i waited for two years and then lost it yeah and invested. Youknow free at sixty hours awake on top of its work and yeah to this son ofsorites yeah anyway. So to the cut the point of the meador is scriptae h. Itis yeah, it reads you know, and i don't think that's a failure. I mean it maynot be filmer, be successful by the measure that you look once again. Maybewe're looking at the wrong metric where you i do often look at the wrongmetrics, perhaps and the you can say the same thing: yeah. That's the nameof the episode where you going to say yeah, the the metrics we look at or theyeah yeah, we'll figure it it'll be so i might come up over by the end of it,but he let so like some sort of like shift of mentality. It's the same withlike relationships as well with friendships dealing with like employeeslike an anything. Really anything is like you, you know. Maybe you weremarried and you got divorced or you with someone for a long time and youhad a failed relationship and maybe the relationship actually got really talkedlike. It was a bad one, but like the amount of things that you learn as longas you have that mindset and try to keep that mindset of like where can itake this, and where can i keep moving forward even now, it feels like i mighthave taken a few steps back like it. Just realigned me to a differentdirection, knows i've just turned the corner and i'm going down a new road.So that's certainly like really great advice that we can always apply like there'sso much personal growth that i've had just dealing with people over the lastfew years that at the time i didn't realize what it was like. I thought itwas just like bad interactions or bad bad experiences and like some of themmight have been, but it wasn't, it was actually more like i'm not choosing tofocus that unless it was actually now. I know how to identify certainpersonality traits in people or or and bosses like having a really reallytoxic employer like now. I know how to see those signs earlier on and notinvest myself, and you know that's what i i was sort of the same. What you saidbefore i really agreed is like it wasn't so much being in that situation.That was the hardest. I was like for months later, thinking about it andbeat yourself up about its like that's way. Worse, that's the way biggest sinthat you can bring upon yourself. Then you know doing anything wrong like that.So that's yeah! That's a really! That's really good advice, i'm reallypractical! So practical as well! There's there's actually a reallyfamous court that i would like to plug right. I say i think, is seneca. Yes,seneca seneca, the philosopher, i think his good was the court went somethinglike we suffer more in imagination than in reality. So it's true right, yeahyeah! You always go to the worst possible scenario like you always andyou experience it as well. Like you, your physiological effect you can haveon your body, like you, can have an effect on your adrenal glands and yourcallers all levels by actually thinking about things and putting yourself inthe scenarios like it's so crazy right and often times you experience that badscenario. When you're like freaking ou, it's really not that bad, like that'sso good. Can you say it again with often we suffer more inimagination than in reality, yeah...

...sending that's there. I and you know ifyou ever want to know. Well, you use a goal. Am i am i doing that to myself?I've got a perfect test for you to know. If you are right, so this is, have youever realized? How fragile sleep is right? All you have to do is think onething one thing and that will start a chain of events before you go to bedand then you won't be sleeping for another six hours right right. I didthat on. I did that on freeing friday i wake up. I do and i did get back tosleep till five o'clock. Righthe reason. I said that right, if you're the kindof person and because we all are right- it's not just me. I do this. The reasoni'm saying this because, i'm being you know completely vulnerable and tellingthe truth here right. So you know for the past few weeks, i've been reallystruggling to sleep right. Most in most of the things are being been on. Mymind are very, are very, you know very basic shit right. Nothing, nothing donothing to major, but they all like shit that adds up. Like you startthinking about. It is something smart, a start, small from fuck. I need tocancel my linked in trial right, otherwise, those mother fuckers goingto charge me sixty bucks right, yeah me study from that right and then sparksthe whole freaking thing right. So, if you ever do that there's this is thereason. I say that, because i do that, i was trying to find a solution forthis, and i only just did right- and i actually did this before and i foundthe solution for and then i stopped doing it. One of the things i starteddoing was- and people say oh meritat as well, but, like you know, if you canmilitate good on you, but you know sometimes hard to meditate. So one ofthe things i would recommend is listening to is listening to one. Ifyou can, if you're classy enough, listen to classical music right. Thathelps some one yeah or listen to rap music on really light tone and try topay attention to the words right. Not the actual hypoes try to adapt payattention to the actual words of it and very like light light. Like walling bright, a thing youcan do if you have access to something like calm or something, i listen to lelisten to fairy tales and sleeve stories that shitou best mood the nextday ever like that shit will change our the physiology of your brainbecause to go into a gointo, a sleeping stage from a creel from an imagination,driven yeah phrase. Music is a great cadlit for that, like all yeah, yeahyeah. So to those are the things don't stay away from and, like you know, thething is often the reason i said. Don't worry about meditation is because oftenpeople who not used to meditation actually end up becoming more agitatedfrom tringo yeah editeur at night time as well, like i so do hard meditation.Is you almost ed to exhaust that feeling? Yeah? That's a great advicelike for me. I use the spotify playlist sleep and nine times out of ten likethat. That works, and it's pretty soft but yeah. Those nights wereparticularly you know and often times. It is because of having caffeine, too late eating alittle bit too late. Maybe i sugars a bit too high, like it's often timeslike it is a food thing that we can avoid, but or it could just be likeyeah. It could just be a stress or like a thought, catches you like right, likeit, you think of shing and then being this thin dust gets yer yeah music, like a light music, likethat, one that i turned to the other night was have you heard of lex fredmanbefore yeah yeah, so that's fredman he's got a really good, podcast andhe's you know really scientific guy and really interesting, and it is actuallya very interesting podcast like it's not just. Sometimes you get these guysthat are, you know, really intelligent, but like their a ticulation stars, notthe best and it sort of drags on. Like he's really entertaining he's got arecent podcast with jocko willing. I don't know, maybe don't sleep to thatone, because you want to stay up and stay awake for it, but he's a y don'tlose yeah go because you mority, but yeah like it. I've gone to lex fredmana few times and he's had a dozen people like sam befor dozen people on and like certain topics will you know, there'salways a risk with podcasting and...

...sometimes i'll stay up and listen tothe whole thing and go crap, or at least i got to hear that cool stuff,but a lot of times, particularly if it's like a topic, i know somethingabout, but i'm not like super invested in it works magic at and then i'll wakeup like two hours later and it's finished, i'm like oh fuck yeah, youknow what i mean so yeah. Sometimes that talk is what you need, becauseit's enough to sort of just grab your concentration, but not enough to invest.You that's right and he also speaks in a way. Like he's he's not like that's alot of like i was trying to use, i would use joe rogan's podcast sometimes,and some of them are all right. But a lot of times he's like he's gotcomedians are on an they're laughing and you know yahoo and an carino andall they're talking. Politics is have a lot of polypii shit on racial isdriving me nuts. Actually, i've taken some time off him, but a yeah. Youwon't sorry just quickly. What you want is something that stimulates yourconsciousness yeah now, but not your ridiculous system, like not your friend,to love, but you start making a decisions. Yeah, definitely and likei've, been i've been listening to the listening to the bible in audio everyevery day as well, and that one's really good too, because it's like it's the same sort of thing where it'sit's kind of storytelling and there'll, be times where, like you hear something,go wow like. I need to hear that again, but most of the time you can drift offwith it pretty good. So that's yeah evo those two options and it's all aboutthe voice you get like. If you get a good like commentator or a good voicelike you know, you don't want snoop dog or they are so you know he did son witha nice cab, lax femnine really good, because he's got like he speaks it outof path. He speaks at a good pace. Is well he's quite slow with his talking,so it's like they're actually really good podcasttoo, but you just like he's a magic me rad. I really like the guy like so icheck chicken in the in the find the link. Oh yeah,that's right copy that an another thing. So that's what the thing! What my pointwas. There is like if you're doing that sleep thing, the note that you'redwelling again as well so be aware of that we might as well do the thingsinstead of dwelling as well or you know, if you need to admit something toyourself whether it's like well, i can't do that. So that's fine! If youcan't do that, then all of a sudden, you start stop dwelling right, so yeahat least so. Have that hanson with you self so just dwelling. So that was, ithink we popol wrap up. The podcast show yeah. This was not in a yeah t, ta i will quickly touch in and this will kind of raps in nicely as well right.You know those people who studied really hard at school and they werelike getting the ninety nine percent marks all the time in the school yeahan all ther, a right, fun fact: they're, all in the roughly the same jobs as usright, none of them at none of them are ps. Doctors or none of them are. Noneof them are working for nasa and none of them went to the woman right. Soonce again, it kind of links into what i was saying before perfection is theenemy, so live life as live life as it comes, live life for living, not forbeing a certain someone or the following, a narrative that you weretold whether was by your parents or by society themselves right so live life,as you feel is in line with who you are, and theeasiest way to find out who you are is when you make mistakes, when you do thewrong things, and you know what you're not that's when you learn who you are,i think that's kind of what i was just want to to wrap up to stop like i, i,the key is the reason i most most of these things, i'm kind of saying tomyself as well yeah, everyone else you know, but it's important. It's like thebest way to learn who you are is to do enough of the wrong things. Mostdefinitely a those experiences right and like that's the thing like morethere's a very high. You know we're not that as unique as we'd like to thinkvery high chance that a lot of people in the same sort of boat, that you areas well and there's nothing wrong with being well educated, a getting you knowdoing well at school, but it's the h.

What cost like it is it because is itjust a by product of your hard work and you applied yourself or is it becauseyou had like this perception that you're going to be better than otherpeople turns out that statistically you know? No, it's actually the the youknow it's. The grind is the people that fail mortal business is the ones thatbecome the highest achievers in society. It's not the people that come out of universe like like jeff bays us like bill gates likethese guys who you know, that's like it sit on bill gates, but he's a he's, abrilliant man, and he can know he didn't graduate or he like didn't. Doit immediately like he was yeah. He didn't go the traditional route, so thething is, the thing is well as simple as his right, and this is somethingfrom coming from me right like right now like personally often, you know, itry not to toot my own home on this podcast that often but might as well doit is our podcast right, like i get various job offers all the time rightfor my industry right at the moment. I've got it like you know. I was goingto tell you about. This is low breil. I've got a job offer from likebasically one of the fortune. Five hundred companies, in fact they reachedout to me right. The difference is the difference, be i wasn't that great atschool right. The difference is, i spend my time learning things that youknow i breaking things, learning things making mistakes or and over again youknow having different jobs and speaking to people building relationship, and iyou know, became really good at him. An interaction as well, as you know, actat what i did because i made enough mistakes. Everything is ballanden beingin pury until you do it all of a sudden. You know you you're in right now they'sa major deficit of digital digital in the digital in, like the you know,digital people, what are they? I don't know what you want to call them right:the digital specialist right. This there's a sage of those people, becauseeveryone went to union got their marketing degrees, but there is noeducation on google ads, though i o al, like routes, no education right, soeveryone who went you know god multiple marketing degrees and like well. Howare they going to kind of pepete with me, because i've also got the samedegree as you, but i've also got five years of digital experience. Like youknow, titly, so there's you know you don't mean like. So more is much easierfor everyone to make mistakes, and you now move forward than just try to geteverything right. Wow. It was your foetas, beautiful and you're. Alsoyou've always been in a late level. Problem solver as well. That's alwaysbeen one of your gratis as its i was striking over it, sir saiten blanfieldthere, but yeah now now you're a hundred percent right, like you know,if you look at the numbers like you didn't not like you were an a studentbut yeah you doubled down on your strength and yeah. You didn't, you wonafraid to take chances so yeah, it's just the perfect, but it's justbeautiful, but now that's really really enjoyed the podcast. Hopefully guys. Imight let you rap up today. I'll do my little spill and you can close it but yeah. I hope everyone who's stuckaround. I hope you really enjoyed it. I certainly have no always enjoy speakingto it's been a really good one. We certainly touched on some great topics.You know we did the generic talk as we always do, but i think we provided likereally good inside and i feel like we, we sort of touched oncertain angles of the topics that hopefully more people can think about,and i believe it will help more people through certain settings so yeah. Thankyou go so much for listening. We really appreciate it. We love you very much.We do. We love you also, my first day wrapping up thepodcast well tan, if you made it this far visible, like i'd like to quicklyplug up as socials checkers out on the clever times, podcast on instagram,twitter, spotify, google, podcast, apple podcast and all of the abovecheck our check our website out the clever, dumis podcast don't come andgive us a message. If you can't sell us an ever email, it's hello at the cleverdamis podcast. If you have any idea, so you would like to be on the podcast. Hewas a shout out. You never know my sefi...

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