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The CDP // Ep26: The Broken Metric System

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The CDP // Ep26: The Broken Metric System: In this episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast we are talking about the broken Metrics we all walk around with. So what's the solution? Let's Chat about it.

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Hey, get everyone. Welcome to episode number twenty six of the clever dummies podcast. I am your host, is always lucky, joined by an k going tonight my brother. I'm great, you know, just living life as always, and it's a good to be here to say, you know, beautiful Monday night at forty eight pm currently. So you know, there's nowhere else I would rather be. I mean mostly because I'm in locked on it. I can't really be anywhere else. But you know, in normally it's good to be here talking to you. Yeah, well, that's right, and you know it's only for essential reasons. We should be leaving the building, and I assume there's less than five people currently in your premises at the moment. You just too so like there might be a little bit of back o noise. It's coming for a bit, but just sounds like your family is having a good time. They're so if you guys can hear every time, and next speaks, if you hear a little bit of background noise, just pretend he's in. You know he's in. He's in a busy strip. More done some work or something like that. So now it sounds good to me, bro but I mean how's it been down there? Like we've been? You know, this is the first time that the regional new soils has been kind of aligned with the greatest Sydney in terms of restrictions and and sort of the protocols waves to go with. So for the better part of last year we were sort of, you know, we couldn't travel as easily, but we were sort of, you know, we didn't we didn't quite have the same sort of restrictions that we've also in put on. So how's it been down in in Sydney anyway? I I'm guessing traffics probably better. That's probably your positive to look at. I'm absolutely loving going to work right now because I jump on the amp for and I'm there in like thirty minutes, under thirty minutes at times. You know, it's just brilliant to driving that note traffic. It's like, you know, I remember, it almost reminds me of M for back when I first got my license, and you know, that's what I kind of reminds me of. It like that. Two thousand, two thousand and thirteen, and wow, it's been a minute hard. Two Thousand and thirteen is a y. it's holy Shit. Say Yes, it is. Well, I just hit me. So, yeah, it's pretty brilliant. I mean, yeah, it's nice to have no traffic. But in saying that, you know, I just think glad's bury to clean our or you know, lushs leader finally decided that, you know, maybe it was time up, time to come up with a new skills to locust. Done. I'm joking, I'm joking, right, I think. I think now. I mean, obviously the interesting thing is because, you know, I would be like, all right, you know, not enough people have vaccinated. This is, you know, a quick, easy just call it a marketing scheme. A quick is the pro quiry get people vaccinated. But the thing is that the things billy fucking available for anybody anyway. So it doesn't make any sense. But it's just I guess. You know, you know what I'm really confused about as to like what the goal is like. It's at the beginning, like certain intentions of the government will clear, right. They were saying, we want to flatten this current right. Yeah, we just had the the big kind of risk, or the thing they wanted to avoid was just, you know, I'm sorry to cut off, but it was like making sure our hospital and our medical system wasn't overwhelmed. Right. So it was you know what we we know how bad this thing can get. We know how quickly can spread. We don't want to get to a point where we're not able to let people in a hospital. So we'll play the safe card and then when we get our medical system, once we figure it all out, then we'll play by hand. Or you know, it's been over twelve months now and they're still kind of using the same strategies and not implementing that sort of that sort of you know, strategy or I guess ideology even that they had last year was like hey, we just don't want to overrun a medical system, but now it's like that's all forgotten and I don't know, like do you think it could be? There's obviously heaps of political pressure and the interesting thing is that all the different state governments that are sort of like talking shit behind each other's back. They're...

...saying this, that and the other and lock the borders down and that sort of thing. So that definitely feels like a lot of it's driven by the political motivation and the consideration of the public. It has definitely not been, you know, really I mean they say that it's protect people, but there's there's you know, that's just a statement. That's really no evidence to support that. We almost feels like, I mean, I love what you said there. That's literally what I was about to say, right. So just I'll say one thing and then I'll kind of recap what I was talking about. So it literally feels like it's like the government is kind of playing their own little game in their own corner, and then there's us. So kind of just like, you know, the population of the public right just kind of suffering the reprogressions of whatever tight later, whatever the game that they're playing, because it has become very political. I mean, you know, you got all the state leaders, right, you got the premiers of different states. I just throwing bullets, you know, throwing things out there about the you know, central government or the the federal government, and you know the federal government is just kind of like kind of trying to be you know that like teachers like just like Oh, yeah, we're trying to do the right things. Like well, none of you guys are doing the right thing. Your guys are all being like really childish. I mean that's number one, right. Number two is the problem go what I was going to just recap is, you know, so, especially at the beginning of the whole covid nineteen situation, there were some clear guidelines and clear communication as to what GOP, the government, goals were, right and what they were trying to achieve. So I think that's important for us to know what the government is doing because essentially, and let's not forget, the government works for us, right, even though it doesn't feel like it at times, but they really meant to work for us. So when you have a government who's kind of doing whatever they feel like doing without actually consulting or at least telling us what they're doing. So at the beginning they said, hey, we need to look down because we need to out in this curve so we don't overwhelm our, you know, medical systems, right. So that's absolutely true. Second and then after that they said, well, here, well, let's bring down. Might as well bring it to write down, so you know, the spread is minimus, so we can open up and we can have a normal life. Okay. Well, like, okay, well, let's extend the lockdowns for a bit so we can, you know, just almost eradicate the eradicate the virus. Right at the at the same time they also said we cannot eradicate the virus. This is the new normal. Remember that would when that was the world, right. So this is sure. Yeah, so we can't eradicate the virus. Will have to live with it until everyone is a vaccinate, a vaccinated. But now it's like what are we doing? Are we eradicating the virus? Because, you know, clearly we're feeling at that and we knew that we could an eradicate advice, but with some reason keep looking back down, looking down, and and we also we relied on the vaccine and we shut everything down. We you know, particularly in Melbourne that I remember, they're getting like thirty cases and we're like look down for months. You know all that happened. You know at what? At what result? We haven't even gotten vaccinated. I mean at the moment it's like less than thirty percent of Australians have been vaccinated. And after that's the first one and yeah, meant to get two doses and less than eight percent have both. So it's yeah, it's pretty crazy. So it seems like there's like a there's the obviously there's a lack of supply because there's not enough. You know that people you just can't go walk in and get vaccinated because we don't have enough of the recommend at one which is the fires over Astra Zeneca. So you need to be, you know, in that sort of I don't know if the category is, but you need to be like a school teacher or you need to be a medical work like that sort of frontline thing, which totally makes sense. And like they're obviously they seem to be obsessed with that zero case, you know number. As soon as anything like that gets put in jeopardy, you know, they sort of pull the trigger really quickly. I was I had something you said sort of triggered a thought in my hell. I can't remember exactly what it was, but there you think about it. Just to quickly touch US something. The other day I did a good you know, forward those accent level lovers out there, I did a quick little hypoth. This is analysis, and I did figured out at...

...the current rate of vaccinition and given how many people they have to vaccine right at the current rate, it will take another fifteen months before that a deep or even but before seventy percent of Australians are vaccinated. Yeah, that's what they're looking at. Are they want that sort of seventy eight percent s? Yeah, that's so crazy, right. And like you think with this most recent, you know, this most recent stint of restrictions, you think they're going to be able to put some money towards somewhere to be able to get a supply? I don't know exactly where the vaccines are coming from. I know there was a period as home where we were making some inhouse, but I don't think that's the one they want to go ahead with. All this is what I was going to say. So it's really interesting because, you know, and rightfully so, early on they were really they were really convicted at adhering to Australian medical advice and the like. The the medical ministers of each state were essentially the ones that had the power to determine what kind of needed to be happen in terms of restrictions and lockdowns and and protocol, because, you know, it's a virus that we've never really seen, we haven't really seen before, certainly in this magnitude. But like, ultimately those guys, their only job is to think about it from a medical point of view. They don't have to weigh up the you know, the societal, the the psychological and, you know, in a large part, they don't have to weigh up the financial ramifications of these lockdowns as well. Yet they're still adhering to this medical advice that is certainly well intention didn't I tend to steer away from the idea that the they're corrupts, like I think they're just doing what, you know, just like what a doctor would do. Is it here on the side of caution. But at the end of the day, like we're all businesses, were all business people, even if we're just talking about running our own lives, like it's essentially a business. And not enough of that financial not enough of that financial element has been taken in consideration, considering how many people we've had get the virus and, more importantly, how many people have been hospitalized or how many deaths we've had, like it's still under a thousand, you know, well into talk months of it being in Australia. So I think we're still we're still relying too heavily on the health ministers to control the narrative, if that makes sense. He said me or have you noticed that health whenisters themselves seem pretty shaky, like they doesn't seem like their words don't seem the thing is right. Here's the thing, thanks to the Internet, right, because they're not. They're not really meant to be in this space, like they're meant to give advice and they meant to say, like, Hey, this is what we should probably do. This what's been going on overseas. They're not meant to have the pressure of, you know, stopping people from earning a living. Like finance and health isn't necessarily related, like it's. Does that make sense? Like they're they're not happen to be in this position. They're not, they're not qualified, or they're not really. That's why they're sort of like, you know, they have to play the the yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, if the if the world was run by doctors, I'm sure none of us would leave homes, like, you know, would stay at home every you know, you know, we wouldn't go out in the sun, would never go to the beach, definitely, I do that. Never get into the car. In fact, we wouldn't even lend the back because you'd get beat sauce. You know, the thing is the thing is, it's all interesting because listening to those, particularly those. What's the one for the new subtles? One is a jenny. Is that her name? She looks like a she looks like a she been smacked over the head with a frying pan. Yes, looks like she's which craft to my like she's not been adhering to the recommended nutrition or God, that look, you know, with all jokes aside, like, no disrespect to her, but it seems like it seems like she doesn't. I mean, I'm sure she has some sort of a doctorate or PSG right under hundred or something. I should you should have experience in the hospital. Yeah, you think so, but I think is when she's talks about it doesn't seem convincing. It seems like she's just saying things that she doesn't even believe herself. But she's like I have to say this...

...because I have all the choice. So that I find really interesting. Yeah, that's a lot of that, for sure. It's a lot of fum contradictions. Yeah, so that I find really interesting. And then who's that other guy? The I think is a negatory in one. Yeah, he rexslime as well. Yeah, he looks. Once again, it's like where are you finding these people? One of the guys I thought was all right, was actually all right and kind of knew what he was talking about, was also of the Victorian one. It was that Asian Dude, his narrow holen Allen something right, he I thought he kind of knew what he was talking about because he gave reasons for everything. Right, yeah, that's right, that's right. We're the other ones to seem like they just found them, like they're really good actress, but also they're not really good actors. And Yeah, they're linking their like seems like they're linking some of their health science towards the narrative of politics that needs to adhere to the current, you know, societal restrictions we have at the moment. Like they're not just talking about how many people need to get the you know, they are talking about that, but then they're starting to go off about again, like it's intertwining the politics and the finance in between with the medical and I think that's why you're seeing them like stumble and fumble in their words, because they're they're talking out of scope and they're really outside of their own level of understanding and they're obviously listening to the premiers or the prime ministers or other politicians, and so they're sort of it's just like when you, you know, like when you talk about a particular topic, like if I talk about like anatomy, right, like I can kind of know what I can kind of I mean, those guys are different because they're like qualified and you'd think in order to be a health minister of a state like you would have to be in the system for a while and show like great initiative and you know, I mean sometimes polities politics about kissing us, but you think they would have to be like, you know, high level academics, right, but once you get into like, you know, if you start talking about finance and you're a you're a health minister, it's like well, it's that's not my field of expertise. So that's what it seems like for me, I guess. Yeah, and I think there is probably a part of that, right. There's there's a level of probably there were good academics. Also a level of that they were a bit of a good kick his ass, right, so there's probably a bit of everyways where I always like, if you look as a people that were school captains, right, like they well this well hegels, but they were well and truly their knees were like housified. Actually, hold I was going to say hold that thought, but not really, because I might want to kind of address this right now, because I've been this has been on my mind for all this time. Right. Actually, I just know what I want to talk about to this. So I'm kind of quickly, not not few things down totally, you know. So if you want to keep talking for a second, yeah, now, that's all good. That's all of it. So yeah, that's that's the what it seems like to me, and I'd actually be interested if for you guys that are listening, if that kind of makes sense. Like I don't listen to a lot of it, and and for right reason, like I I we all know it's bad. We all know it's not what we should be consuming on a regular basis. It's always good to check in and kind of know what's going on, but you can just tell the interviews and the people asking the questions at these press conferences, and there's like an hour of it per day, so they just it's the same crap, just getting beat into our heads and it just feels so like it just feels like so gross to listen to all this sort of thing. So it is hard and like I'm sure there's more people that have, you know, the edge of the ground a little bit more, but it is just like it's to the point now where it's like so ridiculous. But at the same time, you know, is there a lot we can do about it? Not Really, you know what I mean? That's kind of interesting in itself. Yeah, okay, sorry, I just noted do things aunt because I just cool. I hope this is I had this my this whole road map opened up my brain soon as you said that one thing. That's okay, word. They're interest the right map, road map, right. So it's absolutely interesting. But and then, like you were saying, right it is. It is a toxic this whole situation is doxic. Right, and and the biggest effect is right. And the reason we keep up talking about and the reason I'm still talking about it. I...

...stopped watching the news. I don't really check the kisses anymore. You know, it's a lookdown at the moment. The corport virus is around. I try I adhere to the rules. I don't go out as much as I should. Yeah, as much as I'd like. A mask and all that shit. We are mask and I do that all the stuff. You know. I spend you know, my old day at work with a mask on as well today. So, look, I see the threat, right, and I see and I don't want to get sick and I don't want my family to get sick. I don't Mark at my dad to sick. ATS It, right, I hear all those things. But in saying that, right, and this is for some coming from someone from my I'm talking for my generation for a second, right, and but I know I'm not. I'm not normally the kind of person who would wine. But for a second I'm going to step into the shoes of my generation. Right, our generation has taken a lot of hits over the years, right, not. Not, starting from hyperinflation. We have to deal with overwhelming house prices. You know, the the criteria of like getting to being successful in different jobs is harder than ever before. Right, it's insane. Right. So we live in. Our generation had to deal deal with a lot on don't not to mention with like, you know, changing social dynamics, and talk about men like you know, the fact that our men have to deal with the fact all women have to deal with days. So much happening for my generation, and I kind of feel bad for our generation, like millennials, and and the generation, the generation after us, the Gen said right, because right now they'd be graduating uni and, you know, getting into a job workforce, but all of them probably wouldn't get any jobs or anything because millennials with the double degrees and PhD's out of jobs. So of course they're going to get the job first anyway. So I so it's like, with all that aside, it's literally at the moment, I feel like, particularly our age group is like we spoke to Haley last week. Right, our generation at the moment is in at the time where they make a lot of big decisions in their life. Right. So right now most of our people, like either my age people or our age people, are getting married, you know, deciding to have their first kid or, you know, buying a house or, you know, to a finally choosing the right career what works for them, and all these decisions that they're making right now is all, you know, some of them. I guess we are all in different stages, but most of our starting to get serious about life, where this is time where we get serious about life. Right. So, with all this covid nineteen stuff and like what the way Australia is doing it, what is doing is literally chipping away years from our life and we are unable to do those things. You know, and I think not only that's actually you know this, you know, almost like inhibiting our ability to do those things, but I think it's actually majorly, majorly causing huge dis advantages for us, because those disadvantages aren't for the people who go are wealthy to begin with, because our generation is the one who is like eighty percent in the casual workforce, right, because we were the most more creative generation. Right. So most eighty percent of us are in casual workplaces because we want to see how what we could do and change the world and not it. While I'm at it, I want to say our generation has been the one that has made the most amount of difference anyway. So, with all those things said, like, you know, let's say those rising house prices. Right off, they load the interest rate write down, so you know, people can buy house. Right. So economy gets moving, right, economy is not going to move because, well, it's not going to help us, because none of us can afford houses now, because all those rich people are buying houses. And of course the rich people are going to get rid. Yeah, just getting mean. They're gonna get more richer because, you know, charging them interest rate by US people who need to buy the houses at the age that we need to buy the house is we can't afford the houses. Right. So I think the government overall, once again, I keep saying this, has majorly filled us, and particularly the younger age group, I feel like, have been the most disadvantage, even though I know the virus effects more of the older people, but it's the younger generation the trauma that we will carry for rest of our life from the years that we missed out on.

...you were single at the beginning of coby night in two years later, you still single because you're going to go out with fucket half of the year after. You could meet anyone, right, you know? Yeah, so, you know. So this isn't a small example. Now you know you probably not going to have kids in the two years time because you might have right. So you it's like practically we just took a whole generation and, you know, check the mad shit on their face. And we've done that previously, but you know, we did it again and then, you know, I feel bad for Jen Jener the general to come after us, because they, I mean they were suffering with mental illness and all that because of all the technology, and that was very new. Technology is not bad, it's just that technology was new. So they were learning a lot how to deal with it and all of a sudden they spend in the past two years that locked up and now they didn't leave the rooms to begin with. Now they were told they can't leave the room. So you know, it's now there's going to be another generation but doesn't know how to talk to people. I think a lot of people are actually not even going to ever going to come out of this phase of just being at home, you know, because I know I actually find it much harder to go out now than I did a couple of years ago or like a year ago, because, no, it's not because I don't want to, it's just it feels easier to be at home because I'm so used to being at home all the time. So anyway, that's my little rent and I really do hope that, you know, maybe the government wakes up or our generation once again comes to the rescue of the world. I think a lot of like most people that I speak to, in various forms of the other, like they might not agree on everything, but for the majority of it, day or everyone's in the same boat, you know what I mean, like there is a there's a larger separation between the people and the government, and you know, there has been for a long period of time, and I'm sure during war times and particularly after Vietnam, those sort of things like it was certainly there too, and obviously won't alive to speact to it, but this is definitely the most that we've ever experienced it. And you know, you've things like automation in an advancement of technology. Obviously we're in a time now was decide or shift in regards to jobs and certainly and in regards to pay an employment like casual more people are paid and employed casually and part time then ever before, just because the way the systems set up and penalty rates are as little as they've ever been. So, like we're kind of in that little transitional phase now and fortunately unfortunately, like that's kind of the role that we've been given. But like they're definitely does seem to be a fair bit of social conditioning going on, getting people used to, or kind of forcing people to adapt to a certain new way of life. And, you know, these lockdowns. Obviously, Covid, I'm sure, was you know, it wasn't socially engineered and it wasn't put out there like in order to adhere to it. Like I mean, obviously the way that it's coming out now, the way that was started, was spread like it was. It was made. It was actually a manmade virus. It wasn't, you know, it was a naturally made so, like those sort of things are scary, but that's just kind of an advancement in technology and people just getting to ahead of themselves. Like if you I'm sure you've heard of gene editing and that sort of thing. Like these things that are to come like just going to get to a stage where humors are going to get to like we kind of had with this virus, like we kind of got out of him because we didn't know what we're dealing with. An all of a sudden, like we've got this massive issue. I can only imagine if there's a global financial crisis or one of these other things, things that affects people in a different way, like how easy. And that's kind of the issue with technology some in some ways, is those sort of things are more likely than they ever have been be you know, that's kind of the evolution of the human race in a sense, like with greater greater things, like greater technical or technolog logical advancements. Barely get that word out, like the ability to communicate with people across the world, where you're going to come with new in you know, more money, more problems, like you know, you're going to come with new, different things as well. So, like a lot of these things are just part of you know,...

...have happened since humans have been around, like we've evolved in then our problems have evolved as well. But yeah, I certainly, I certainly worry and and very concerned for, obviously the mental health of a lot of people, and myself included. But you know, I'm old enough now and I've dealt with it enough to be able to get through this pretty pretty easily. I'm certainly worried for, you know, my daughter and people a little bit older and people that are going to be borne up to her, that are going to be brought up in this world where gender, gender roles and even people's beliefs so widely criticize that people just don't have a safe place to go to in any sort of opinion that people might have. Instead of ED educating people, just understanding that people come up from different walks of life and view the world on the different way. You've all got to think a certain way of wise you're like outcaste of was, you're a bad person for it, and that that's what leads to, you know, people's mental health deteriorating, obviously. And then, you know, we've got social media, where as beautiful social media is and if it's a tool, if you know how to use the tool like it can be the best thing in your life. But there's a very easy like comparison is the is the killer of joy. You know, that's a great sort of saying that I've read recently and that's so true. Particularly younger people, even older people affected by it to most definitely. Like I've had conversations with people in their forties and s that are dealing struggling with social media. But the young people that don't have the life experience to understand what social media actually is, and it's people, you know, putting the best part of their life in certain areas and then a US comparing it to our shit part of our lives and not doing the well. So I think that's what really concerns me, for sure. But at the same time, like it's kind of our responsive responsibility for the people that are strong in the people that are, you know, who can see and are insightful in this sort of way, to try to lead the future generation, you know, if you've got kids or if you're not, like, if it's about creating a narrative and creating discord, that like it's okay to you know, we're yeah, I don't know, I think I know. I think you know what I'm trying to say. Absolutely. Couldn't put a bow in the end of it. I think you actually did particular that, I think one of the things that, and this is the reason, almost see, we always talk about so many different things on this podcast and sometimes we go very off course and just have a nice conversation, which is, yeah, one of the things that I think originally, when we started this podcast, one of the things we said we will do. We will have the conversations. Yeah, we definitely, which we've done all the way through, which we've done all the way through, right. But one of the key things that at least we are having the conversation and one of the things that I always say I want to make a difference in the world, and we always say, you know, want to change the world. Right, I don't think the word's going to change in one hit and then I don't think I'm capable of some doing something like that. I mean, I think the only person who is capable things, I think it's probably a the Elon mask or Jeff Puzzles. But nonetheless I'm sure they're trying. But that's all their souls, right, right. They leave this, they live for the they live for their business, prayer like it. That's it's not all US cut out to me, right. But but you know, you know, the thing is we're having this conversation. So I think it's important. The reason I bring this up and I see this all this thing, apart from just getting it off my chest, is maybe if we just talk about it, it starts a conversation, right, because yeah, right now, right now, it's a pretty unspoken it's like before covid nineteen, right before gobed nineteen, there was a weird, really eerie feeling, right, and I remember actually saying this to you, Lauklin, as, saying I think for the past like from let's say, you know, maybe almost like fifteen, twenty years, I nothing really had happened. If that. Yeah, there was a real calm before the stormy. Yeah, so there was a real calm before the storm, right, and then everything was just going to smooth right. And Yeah, getting all everyone got way to content and, you know,...

...to quite too sensitive. Social Justice was going crazy, but I like that was the biggest issue in the world. Is because I go on. Yeah, social justice was huge and it's still is huge. But one of the I think that happened was in a way where people started to become, not necessarily almost I want to say, I'm grateful, right, that's the word. I think is the easiest way to describe it, without getting too much into it. Right, for and then lost appreciation for the blightehold life and struggle center, and that's and, you know, dare I say, let's not let's not forget about the people who still suffering those kind of times anyway. But yeah, I think, I think there there was a sense of complacency that we, as human just got. You know what it is, what it is. We have a you know, we have a new iphone coming out every year. Thing seems to be pretty good at the biggest struggle that we had at the time was like how am I going to afford the next iphone? Right, so, you know, so it was all good, right, and then we weren't thinking about our savings and all that stuff, like now we are forced to think about all those things because all of a sudden the world is less unpredictable. And you know, working in business, I saw so many businesses that I said, Hey, let's change your ways to the future, like The Times, Jim, we need to change a time. Everyone was like no, no, it's all good. Why? I remember, I think, think about when we were started the podcast. It was a few nuts beforehand like that. That's right, yes, you're well into that, like Davidsi scrit but I said that. I said in a podcast. I said people need to change with times, and no one listen at the time. And then, because they said, well, why? The thing that I always heard was. Why fix something when it's not broken? Right? The that the problem is the opposite of broken is not great, the opposite, you know, it does. If it's not broken, it doesn't mean magnet yeah, it's doesn't mean. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's the right thing, right, you know. And I think whether it starts by whether we can, you know, fix something do it better. You know what thing, we can definitely make a difference and we just need to be proactive about it. But it just needs to even start with a conversation because, you know, so hopefully, you know, this means something, I guess, but you know, otherwise, at least I got it on my chest saying we have this math conversion. So Yeah, Nice, definitely, and there's there's tapes of like there's hope to these sort of things. That'll start to push itself back to the forefront of people's minds. Once people, you know, once they heads back in a back under, back out of the water to put analogy out there, you know before. So kind of overwhelmed a little bit, or they're certainly it's the front of their mind. So, yeah, everyone is really sickly. Yeah, yeah, that's a great one. Right now, one thing that I do want to say. Would would you mentioned social media kind of remind me of something. Right, the other day I was going through photos on myself. Right at the moment, I wait about any killers and like this is before looked down out. This is so this is the strongest I've ever been. Just quickly to plug my stats. I'm talking about forty kilo pull ups at forty Kilo added weight pull ups for like Yeven raps. That's so good. This is the strongest I've ever been. Right, I'm doing like fifty five kilos flat bench for a tip five Killo, like, you know, what are you said Latin flat flat. I was gonna get to that. Fifty five killers. I talk about this program actually after this, but yeah, absolutely kill incline test press, you know, hundred ten kilo bands. Yeah, raze. Right, my roles are like sixty five killers single arms for ten reps. overall, like the craziest conditioning I've ever been in, right, but this is also the heaviest I've ever been in as well. And my and I'm also being able to do handstamp push ups for like fifteen, twenty raps with no support. So this is the first time my body composition works in a way where my strength to weight ratio is way out of like our proportion. Yeah, it is Lee. I've been much lighter and haven't been able to do any of these calistatic movements that requires lightweight. Right. So what's interesting is, right, so at the moment I I'm Brit Lean but my weight is still eighty killers. Right. And I was looking through my pictures right and previously and I saw my pictures, I'm like, okay, this is where I was leaner and I feel shit about myself right now...

...because I wait edy killer. At the time I was SUC yeah, yeah, yeah, problem. The thing that I forgot right at the moment I'm probably I'm lean, but I have a lot of muscles. That's where the strength is coming from, right, yeah, so, but that's where the weight comes from as well. But I'm for getting is when I took those photos, I made sure they were the best angles of all time. Right. Yeah, I'm like, Oh shit, I look like I don't look like that because I forget the one I took that I put my best side forward. It's funny. If I can do that to myself, think about what social media does to yeah, you didn't mean to trick yourself or you fotten did? Yeah, exactly, great, I did, because, you know, you into that. I'd go to the mirror and take a foot like a side shot. I look like a freaking Christian gooseman on it, but I'm not right because it doesn't work like that. And same thing with those guys. They don't look like that like they on the Instagram, but that's like, you know, you pick the best side forward. I think that's interesting. Right. So it's something that we forget easily. Yeah, but you know sever so I'm changing the mentality. I was like, okay, well, I should gage my strength and dilike athletic ability that I've just discovered that I've never had like comments right, like all the way. So focus some body composition. And you know, with with bigger output like that, like you need bigger recovery. You also need to eat a lot more as well, like he it's not just having time resting to recover, like you need to refuel and then sometimes the calories like that's the only thing with, you know, strength training, as you don't burn as many carries. Is maybe do with other ways of working out and certainly being at home more than we normally would be too, like we're generally eating more than we are. But, like, if you're as strong and particularly if you're conditioning, like your muscular endurances as good as ever been, then it's a time to like not worry, you know, not worry about it, I think. Yeah, and like I think like for a part of it. Like at the moment I'm still I'm watching what I eat, but I'm doing like a flexible dieting style, but I I just watch what I eat. I'm not. You're not drinking, you just not. Yeah, you're not eating like an Asshole, but you're not tracking. So it's so, it just is what it is. A yeah, but like the thing is like normally previously, when I'd be on a diet, I'd be like, you know, let's say what my BM heart is like. You know, let's say one thousand, nineteen hundred. I'd be on like twelve hundred collies or a thousand galleries a day. Right at the moment, I'm I still track my calories, I see. Right. Yeah, so at the moment, I said, still track my calories, but I'm more likely to hit like, let's say it, with my own, my big own days that I'm working out, I'll hit like two thousand five hundred calories. So I eat, eat what I'm required to eat. Yeah, a hundred less, a couple hundred lesson in there, some days more, but it average is out per weekly to be just about just under my BMR. So I still stay lean. And Yeah, you're maintaining yeah, you know, maintaining that just, yeah, tide less. So it's interesting because I this is this is new territory for me, because I've never had like this much might at my leverage, like at my expense, like I've been able to never been able to do things that I can do. And it feels so weird that I pick up a sixty kild, like fifty five kilo and it doesn't feel like, it doesn't feel hard, that it's going to go up and it just goes up and I found it so incredible. It was like I can't even every time I do something I'm like what the Fuck, how did I do that? That doesn't make sense. And you know locker and we've trained together such a long time. PULL UPS has been one of my weakness do yeah, to do seven to eight traps for of pull ups with forty kill added weight at any killers. That's actually a two. Personally, I know this is meg impressive for myself, but let's compare to other people. I don't think there's anyone at my gym. Will could probably do that like easily by five. Yeah, when single plate lettle onto plates of yeah, now that's amazing. That so, that's amazing. What are your what are your training days look like at the moment? Like her split, I skipped the deadly fright. Some I've got a bad back. At them all setting like sing all the time. Right. Yeah, my bat back isn't great. So I haven't been deadlifting much at all. But my scots is roughly at hundred thirty, hundred and forty. Yeah, for like fair bit of wraps. Because of my back, I tried to don't push my scored a much higher. Yeah,...

...so, but have many reps? You don't first squad? You're not. Are you're not one raming a like you not got a kind? Yeah, yeah, anything. None of these things. I won one rap Max. All of them are like forty six traps. Yeah, that's definitely. Yeah, photo six traps is what I'm doing. My my theory, like I guess when you're training with some one or all the time, you can do it, you know, once a month. I think it's a good, good way to keep you know, sort of keep it goal there and something to push for. But like that's certainly I feel like that's where we've evolved as well and just through experience. It's not always chasing that one. I am like, I'd rather for to six good clean reps and you feel better, you've got more time under tension, like you're not. You're not so to Prague dear breath, that you know, snap your shit, like it's such a different mentality. But one of the things that I just realized in it clicked in my head. Perhaps this was maybe I could thank covid nineteen for that. I was like, why, what am I rushing for? I've got time on way. Yeah, why not make a proper plan? And I said at the moment, like I said, I'm sitting on fifty five kilow incline chest breast right. So my goal is to hit sixty five and I I said I'm going to hit sixty five by December. So like that's that's long enough to I'm like, I'm not. There's no reason for me to go do it tomorrow. Right, do you not see? I find candle with them. Yeah, hundred percent. But if I see if I can do it, but December and next week, I do for it. Girls, it doesn't matter because I've got all this time and I can just, you know, increase the reps for fifty five and then do two rops for sixty two four ups or sixty. Eventually try sixty four, sixty, sixty five kills. Yeah, if you turn a couple of days awake, you'll get there for sure. For Shore, so that it doesn't mean like, you know, you go six months to get somewhere. It's much easier than say, Oh, let me just throw it up, see what happens. Yeah, yeah, last I'm probably getting gold and it doesn't. I don't want to risk breaking some shit. But you've also got a certain amount of time, you know, to Pake it that way. You've got to change. So it's like kind of cache in while you can, and they says a big but the saps a big boys that can still bang when they're older. But like if you're starting to artis like certain issues through through pain in that sort of thing, like we did sort of pull the dug out one. You know, see, like like my body, it was really well, I think they probably should get my back checked out. Yeah, we're about this is the pain. It's lower backway. Yeah, I think I actually know where it's from. It's not really from lifting or any bad injury because I spend majority of my dis sitting down. Sure. Yeah, yeah, injury. My being actually goes down when I'm if I spend like, let's say, a week of high activity. So that's why. No, it's from all the sitting. Yeah, I safely. Yeah, if, probably, you've probably got to like every couple hours of work. You probably got a stretch for five and yeah, it's to help with that's like you know what I mean. That's a big thing for even people that train morning nights, like put hours under their under their plates, like even Pete's or guys who spend, who are really in good shape, if they spend, you know, they've got a big day at work or something and they they're on the on their computer, like it just F's everyone up. Like thing about people that drive for a living. You know, think about like Uber Drivers, taxi drivers, truck drivers, think about people, amount of people that work on a desk, like it's definitely that's a real painting and it's a real sort of epidemic. Pandemic for sure. But now that's so good bread, so good to hear that you're hit. So is there like you just have to wear a mask of the gym, like there's actually at the moment? Is Not? So those actually shut him? Yeah, yeah, I guess that's one thing. Coughs like all region and US wils isn't as strict as that. It's just masks and social distancing obviously, and Maxim amount of people. But yeah, we're still open. So obviously the Sydney one is you know. Yeah, and it is a little bit and I'm not I'm not freaking out too much either this. Yeah, I'm actually just kind of relaxing because I spend I think for the past three months I've been like pushing my bodies to this. yeahmstually catching like like miss time. So I just thought I might as well take this as a downtime. Yeah, let my body decompress in a way so I can go back and, you know, hit harder. So that's kind of a plan. So...

I'm not really yet out trying to do major runs or anything. So I'm just kind of chilling it, taking by hand. Yeah, I understand. So that's easy. So, so that would anyway. So the main point of all this composition was that the most like, I think we always look at the wrong metrics, right, we look at people's social media and their likes and whatever right right now, like I look at my picture and girl, oh well, why do I look like that? I think we should always look at performance and the metaphoric performance of who we are. Are we becoming better people and look in woods and outwards. You know. So, so that's that's that's a big one. Right now. Now let's back to by the topic that I wrote down. Right, this episode is freaky killer. It's like that. So good bread, so good. Do you would plan this right? So one of the things I was talking about, you touched on it about school captains, right, and this is something being on my mind for the past week and I wanted to bring this up at some point. Right. So, all the things I've noticed. Right, there's two things I want to talk about right. First thing, I want to talk about masculinity, and I know people are going to attack. People attack all the men all the time, but I'm do it because I'm a man. So it's all good, it's I'm going to be nice us about it, right. So number one thing that I want to talk about is I've learned something about people. Is, people who are serious in life, right, people who spend a lot of time being serious, and people, particularly those people who are very diligent in life. Right, they don't want to do anything wrong and they don't want to make any mistakes and, you know, they walk up to every class and you know, props to them for rocking up to every class because, you know, let's be honest, I skipped a few, if I'm honest, and I'm sure we all did. Right. The thing is, all those people who were super serious and the serious stave of the world, you know, they did everything right, and particular, I'm in this sense. I'm talking about guys, right, I'm so particular those guys who always did everything right and just were serious about life. Right, they took life as like, you know, looking, you know that people I'm talking about, right, you know the people I'm talking about, right, people who just took life so seriously. Yeah, we're just like, you know, yeah, this is like I have to take this seriously. Everything they did was like a mission, right. The thing I want to say about them is one number one thing is parental influenced. You know, I'm sure, is their home life. That, yeah, sure, that, yeah. Number one thing on to say is first thing is they their masculinity was absent at times. First of all, and you know this, I'm talking very certain type here, right, but the problem is, over all, the assences of masculinity is a little messier, right, and I'll get into this. Why? The reason I say this, right, so that they always did everything right. They didn't make any mistakes and they're still trying to be serious, trying to, you know, get ahead, but really the end up falling far behind because they don't make the mistakes, you know, and they with they don't. They don't make the mistakes right. And it's interesting because there was a study done about this and they asked this group to go out and find a solution for something or like. So they go two groups and one group they said, Hey, go find a solution for something like that. I think it was a solution, and they said, and you have one group they said the solution has to be perfect, and the other group they said, Hey, you know, go find a solution, right, try many times as you like, right, and the other time other other people were troll like you have to get find a perfect solution. So the group who were told that they have find a perfect solution spend came up with a supper solution and a singer solution, right, and by the time the other group had come up with many solution and they had improved on this solution. So they ended up not only delivering on a barren solution, but they delivered multiple solutions, where the group who tried to get the perfect solution only got one solution, and this solution was subpart because they spent too much time just dwelling on trying to be perfect. So the reason I say this right, because there's people among us who always try to get things right in the first you know, and the problem with getting things right is in action rights, because nothing in life is. But yeah, stag night, yeah, you know, if you were if everything,...

...if you were perfect, well, you can't be perfect. Right. That's a factual information. Right. So no need to try, just might as well do things. And that was the number one thing I bring up. Right, and this is particularly in regards to men, because men who certain have like a certain level of perhaps it's influence or their personality, are serious about life. I think life is much more joyful when you experience it and live it and not try to be perfect all the time. And and this is not mean no giving advice, this is something I just realized and I realize whenever I feel the most, when I judge myself so heavily on trying to be better, that's why I feel the most. I've never regretted doing so. I I have. I don't really have regrets of doing stupid shit that I learned from. I have regrets of doing dwelling on something for days and months and then realizing that wasn't even worth my time and I don't even care about it after a while. So that's something in experience I wanted to share and I personally I'm not a perfection at all, but perfection is but you know, a at times we all can't be. So I think that's something we should all we can all let her. But you know, don't take my words for it. Think about what you do. You know, whenever you don't twelve, just freaking say what it comes to mind. Right this podcast like imagine if we try to script all these episodes. Yeah, what he loves, which you know has. That's exactly right. So so that's that's that's two. That's one thing I want to bring up. Second thing I want to bring up. Let me speak on that for a second and go for it back and forth, and then Guardi a second one. Like I'm sure you say that in regards, like you say that in marketing as well, or sales or like any new product ideas or new business ideas where people are so caught up on the you know, they're doing their due diligence and they they market planning and doing these sort of things, but they get so caught up on the processes ahead that they don't take steps necessary to get there. And like that's something I struggle with as well. Like you, just over try to, you know, maybe it's good intention and sometimes as laziness, like it's actually both. Is You you try to over you over focus on the macro when the micro is what you need to do in the micro is just like the steps that you need to take to get there. And then once you sort of take enough steps to get there, you sort of realize, like I didn't need to like theorize about this. I know what to do now because I have enough life experience. So it's that's definitely something that I feel like a lot of people, a lot of people do with in their walks of life and for sure, like I'm in marketing and in that I'm sure that's massive, as well as like just getting people to pull the trigger and like fit, just do the name thing, like crate the content that you want to create and do these sort of things absolutely. I mean, if you ever think that you're what you're doing is not good enough, let me tell you something. Right. Have you ever realized how many apps that Google themselves launch? There are multi billion. Door memoth company, that Bailey Work Right? Let's talk about that for a second. Let's talk about how many. How often instagram crash when they release a new update? Let's talk about the APP that that uncomplete APP that I would government release, that the spent full of the you alls all that didn't even work. So it doesn't matter what you if you got it right or not, long as you do something is much more important than just dwelling on the idea and getting it right right. So, example, I want to give you a look, and this is interesting because a couple of my friends actually said I failed at something right. So one of the things I want to talk about. I started bomby box right, which is the clothing like a, you know, men's accessory company, right by by most standards, bomby box didn't become a million dollar company like I hoped. Right, but what bomby box did do is introduced me to the land of ECOMMERCE that I learned so much more about and I work in the current position is by ECOMMER streaming company I had. I had upputs of almost sixty projects that I've completed because of ECOMMERCE. I knew about e commerce and I learned about ECOMMERCE because I decided to start a company and I just did it right. Okay, one could say, Oh, you didn't make a million dollars, so your ecommerce business was filled. I was like, well, I think it's otherwise. I think my ECOMMERCE business may have not made a million dollars, but it...

...made me much more money than what you're doing right. It actually made me real monetary value because I got project. Not only I got it. He told you that. Did anyone tell you that is it headed? No, no, no, I'm telling you about you failed poppy box. You want to tell you that he did like it be see, this said. This is what they said. Right, and I'm not going to say this right, call them at that. I just a couple of that it could they were like, all, if I could have done is so much better. You just yeah, okay, right. So I was like, okay, yeah, sure, sure, where right? They're all probably right. Right. Well, I'm saying is there's always look at it. Whether you could say, you know, a didn't become heat, didn't do the sales that I would have liked to do short, or I could look at it. I learned so much more and I actually probably and probably will end up earning way more money because of what I learned. Then what I would have learned? What would what I would have gained if I actually did the right thing and I waited for two years and then launst it, yeah, and invested, you know, free get sixty hours awake on top of that's where I can yeah, that's only this sort of thing, right. So, yeah, anyway, so little. The key, the point of the matter is right, point right. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it really is. Think so, you know, and I don't think that's a fail you, I mean, may not be. Feel mean I will be successful by the measure that you look once again, maybe we looking at the wrong metrics. We do often look at the wrong metrics, perhaps, and then you can say the same thing. Yeah, that's the name of the other side. Were you going to say? Yeah, the the metrics, we look at all the yeah, yeah, we'll figure it'll be selling a white come over by the end of it'll be something some sort of like shift, a mentality. It's the same with like relationships as well, with friendships, dealing with like employees, like an anything, really, anything is like you. You know, maybe you were married and you got divorce, or you're with someone for a long time and he had a failed relationship and maybe the relationship actually got really talk like it was a bad one. But like the the amount of things that you learned, as long as you have that mindset and try to keep that mindset of like where can I take this and where can I keep moving forward, even not feels like I might have taken a few steps back, like it's just realigned me to a different direction. KNOWS, I've just turned the corner and I'm going down a new road. So that's certainly like really great advice that we can always apply. Like there's so much personal growth that I've had just dealing with people over the last few years that at the time I didn't realize what it was like. I thought it was just like bad interactions or bad, bad experiences, and like some of them might have been, but it wasn't. It was actually more like I'm not choosing to focus that, unless it was. Actually now I know how to identify certain personality traits and people or or embosses, like having a really, really toxic employer. I like now I know how to see those signs earlier on and not invest myself. And you know, that's what I I was sort of the same what you said before. I really agreed. Just like it wasn't so much being in that situation that was the hardest. It was like four months later thinking about it and beating yourself up about its, like that's way worse. That's the way biggest sin that you can bring upon yourself then, you know, doing anything wrong like that. So that's yeah, that's a really that's really good advice, really practical. So practical as well. These are there's actually a really famous court that I would like to plug right as. I think, is it Senica? Yes, NICA SNICA, the philosopher, I think is God, was in the court. Went something like we suffer more in the imagination then in reality. So it's true. Bright, yeah, yeah, you always got the worst possible scenario, like you always and you experience it as well, like you your physiological effect you can have on your body, like you can have an effect on your addrein or glands and your cards all levels, by actually thinking about things and putting yourself in the scenarios, like it's so crazy, right, and oftentimes you experience that bad scenario and you like freaking out. Is really not that bad, like that's so good. Can you say it again with often we suffer more in imagination than in reality. Yeah, sounding, that's yeah, it's...

...beautiful. And and you know, if you ever want to know well, you use a go am I am I doing that to myself. I've got a perfect test for you to know if you are right. So this is have you ever realized how fragile sleep is? Right, all you have to do is think one thing, one thing, and that will start a chain of events before you go to bed and then you won't be sleeping for another six hours. Right. Sorry, I did that on I did that on free and Friday. Oh, I come right. Not, and I did get back to sleep to five o'clock. Right. So the reason I say that, right, if you're the kind of person and because we all are, right, it's not just me. I do this. The reason I'm saying this because I'm being, you know, completely vulderable and telling the truth here. Right. So, you know, for the past few weeks I've been really struggling to sleep. Right, most been, most of the things are being been on my mind are very a very, you know, very basic shit, right, nothing, nothing, to nothing to major. But they all like shit that adds up, like you start thinking about it. Something Smart, start small. From Fuck, I need to cancel my linkedin trial, right, otherwise those motherfuckers got to charge me sixty bucks. Right. Yeah, something started from that, right, and then sparks the whole freaking thing. Right. So if you ever do that, there's this. This. The reason I say that because I do that. I was trying to find the solution for this and I only just did right, and I actually did this before and I found a solution for and then I stopped doing it. One of the things I started doing was, and people say all, meritate as well. But, like you know, if you can meditate, good on you, but you know, sometimes hard to meditate. So one of the things I would recommend is listening to is listening to one if you can, if you're classy enough, listen to classical music, right. That helps some. Like yeah. Or listen to rap music on really light tone and try to pay attention to the words, right, not the actual hype of it, just try to adapay attention to the actual words of it and very light, light, light, light volume. Right. I think you can do if you have access to something like calm or something that. Listen to sleep listen to fairy tales and sleep stories. That shit put in the best mood the next day. Ever, like that Shit will change of the physiology of your brain, because to go into a going to a sleeping stage from a creed, from my imagination, driven pace music is a great catalyst for that. Like all. Yeah, yeah, so those are the thing don't say away from and, like you know, the thing is often the reason I said don't worry about maddition is because often people who are not used in that edition actually end up becoming more educated from random yeah, yeah, but the particularly at night time as well, like to get it. So do part of meditation is you almost need to exhaust that feeling. Yeah, that's a great advice. Like for me I use the spotify playlist sleep and nine times out of ten like that that works and it's pretty soft. But yeah, those nights where particularly you know, and oftentimes it is because of having caffeine too late, eating a little bit too late. Maybe it's sugar was a bit too high. Like it's oftentimes like it is a food thing that we can avoid, but or it could just be like, yeah, it could just be a stress or like a thought catches you like right like it. You think of something and then bang, this thing just gets here. Yeah, music, like a light music like that. One that I turned to the other night was have you heard of lex Friedman before? Yeah, yeah, so LEX Fredman. He's got a really good podcast and he's, you know, really scientific guy and really interesting and is actually very interesting podcast. Like it's not just sometimes you get these guys that are, you know, really intelligent, but like they're articulation styles on the best and it sort of drags on like he's really entertaining. He's got a recent podcast with jocko willing. I don't know, maybe don't sleep to that one because you want to stay up and they awake for a but he's actually don't listen the yeah gogs because you might be a run totally. But yeah, like I've gone to Lex Prudman a few times and he's had a dozen people, like Sam Smith, a dozen people on and like certain topics will you know, there's always a risk with podcasting and sometimes I'll stay up and listen to...

...the whole thing and go crap, or at least I got to hear that cool stuff. But a lot of times, particularly if it's like a topic I know something about but I'm not like super invested in it works magic and then I'll wake up like two hours later and it's finished. I like our fuck. Yeah, you know what I mean. So, yeah, sometimes that talk is what you need because it's enough to sort of just grab your concentration but not enough to invest you. That's right. And he also speaks in a way like he's been he's not like that's a lot of like I was trying to use. I would use Joe Rogans podcast sometimes, and some of them are all right, but a lot of times he's like he's got good comedians are on in their laugh and then you know, Yahoo want to carn on and all they're talking politics. Is had a lot of polity, political shit on recently's driving me nuts. Actually, I've taken some time off him. But yeah, you want, so you just quickly. What you want is something that stimulates your consciousness. Yeah, not, but not your ridiculous sister, like not your friend Delbe, but you stuck me. Yeah, decisions. Yeah, definitely. And like I've been, I've been listening to the listening to the Bible and audio every every day as well, and that one's really good too, because it's like it's the same sort of thing where it's it's kind of story telling, and they'll be times where you, like, you hear something, go wow, like I need to hear that again, but most of the time you can drift off of it pretty good. So that's yeah, he for those two options. And it's all about the voice you get. Like if you get a good like commentator or a good voice like you know, you don't want snoop Dogg or there. Some of you didn't. He needs out with a dice. Cab lex fil minutes really good because he's got like he speaks it at a pace. He speaks at a good pace as well. He's quite slow with his talking. So it's like they're actually really good podcast to you, but you just like is it a magic man? I Rate I really like the GUY, so I'll checking my checking out, taking a little linked them in the find the link below. Huh, yeah, that's right. Copy that another another thing. So that's what say. The what my point was there is like, if you're doing that sleep thing, the note that you're dwelling again as well. So be aware of that. The might as well do the things instead of dwelling as well. Or, you know, if you need to admit something to yourself, whether it's like well, I can't do that, so that's fine. If you can do that, then all of a sudden you start to stop dwelling, right. So yeah, at least so have that conversion with this ufficer just dwelling. So that was I think we probably will wrap up the podcast show. Yeah, there's was last thinking bright. Yeah, that I will quickly touching, and this will kind of wraps in nicely as well. Right, you know those people who studied really hard at school and they were like getting the ninety nine percent marks all the time and the school? Yeah, it's all there are, right, fun fact, they're all in the roughly the same jobs as us. Right, none of them are. None of them are pshd doctors, or none of them are. None of them are working for NASA and none of them went to the woman. Right. So, once again it kind of links into what I was saying before. Perfection is the enemy. So live life as live life as it comes. Live life for living, not for being a certain someone or the following a narrative that you were told, whether was by your parents or by society themselves. Right. So, live life as you feel is in line with who you are, and the easiest way to find out who you are is when you make mistakes, when you do the wrong things, and you know what you're not. That's when you learn who you are. I think that's kind of what I was wanted to wrap up, to stop like either the keys. The reason I most of these things, I'm kind of saying to myself as well. Yeah, everyone else, you know, but it's important. Like the best way to learn who you are is to do enough of the wrong things. Most definitely of those experiences right. And like that's the thing. Like more there's a very high, you know, we're not that as you nique, because we'd like to think very high chance that a lot of people in the same sort of boat that you are as well. And there's nothing wrong with being well, educating, getting, you know, doing well at school, but it's the at what cost, like it is it because is it just a byproduct of your hard work and you applied yourself,...

...or is it because you had like this perception that you're going to be better than other people? Turns out that, statistically, yeah, you know, you know, it's actually the the you know, it's the grind, is the people that fail mortal business, is the ones that become the the highest achieves in society. It's not the people that come out of universe like like Jeff Bezos, like Bill Gates, like these guys who, you know, let's not get start on Bill Gates, but he's a he's a brillant man and he he didn't graduate all. He he like didn't do it immediately. Like he was. Yeah, he didn't go the traditional route. So the thing is, I think, is well, it's simple as this, right, and this is something from coming from me right like right now, like personally. Often, you know, try not to toot my own horn on this podcast that often, but might as well do it is our podcast, right, like, I get where's job offers all the time, right for my industry. Right at the moment, I've got to like, you know, I was going to tell you about this is lot briefly, Lop, I've got a job offer from like a basically one of the fortunate five hundred companies. In fact, they reached out to me. Right. The difference is the difference. I wasn't that great at school. Right. The difference is ill. I spend my time learning things that you know, I breaking things, learning things, making mistakes over and over again, you know, having different jobs and speaking to people, building relationship, and I, you know, became really good at human interaction as well as, you know, act at what I did, because I made enough mistakes. Everything is Volu and Dan being in theory, until you do it. All of a sudden you know you're you're in. Right now there's a major deficit of digital, digital in the digital ink, like the you know, digital people. What are the I don't know what you want to call them? Right, the digital specialists. Right, there's there's a year of those people, because everyone went to union and got their marketing degrees, but there is no education on Google ads, the whole model, Legge's right, old, is no education. Right. So everyone who went, you know, got multiple marketing degrees and like, well, how are they going to kind of compete with me, because I've Bolso got the same degree as you, but I've also got five years of digital experience, like you know. Totally. So there'sn't you know, you don't mean like so more. Is Much easier for everyone to make mistakes and, you know, move forward than just try to get everything right. Wow, it was your vocas. Yeah, that was beautiful, and you're also, you've always been an elite level problem solved as well. That's always been one of your great assess its striking, though, for it it s S. I'll try to even the blade field there. But yeah, Nah, now you're a hundred percent right. Like you know, if you look at the numbers, like he didn't start, like you're an age student, but yeah, yeah, you double down on your strengths and yeah, you didn't. You want afraid to take chances. So, yeah, it's just the perfect but it's just beautiful. But now that's really really enjoyed the podcast. Hopefully, guys, I might let you wrap up today. I'll do my little spill and you can close it. But yeah, I hope everyone who's stuck around, I hope you really enjoyed it. I certainly, if you always enjoy speaking to it's been a really good one. We certainly touched on some great topics. You know, we did the generic talk, as we always do, but I think we provided like really good inside and I feel like we we sort of touched on certain angles of the topics that hopefully more people can think about and, I believe it, or help more people through certain settings. So, yeah, thank you, guys, so much for listening. We really appreciate it. We love you very much, we do. We love you. Also, my first day rapping up the PODCAST, will think if you made it this far. First of all I'd like I'd like to quickly plug our socials. Check us out on the clever dume is podcasts, on Instagram, twitter, spotify, Google podcast apple podcast and love the above. Check out. Check our website, out the clever dummies podcastcom and give us a message. If you can't send us an earroo email, it's hello at the clever dummies podcastcom. If you have any ideas or you would like to be on the PODCAST, give us a shout out. You never know. Myselfely, we're gonna have a special guest.

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