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The CDP // Ep29: Or Skewed Perception

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In this episode of The Clever Dummies Podcast, we talk about how our Perception of Reality Is Skewed. From the people, we follow to our family and some well-meaning people who get it wrong. Sounds interesting. So Turn up your car stereo and put away your email. Lets Talk.

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He stop things as were this good morning good evening goodafternoon, and thank you for joining us for the episode number of twenty nineof the Clemons podcast, and I am as always, your host lucky and a Nika. Mytrusty my right hand, man and the best thing that come out of Pakistan sin sohot breakfast. How you got me Fella, I'm good, my man, I'm good, I'm good!It's good to be er good, to be doing this podcast and, as you said, the bestthing to come out of Pakistan besides that had breakfast, although some willargue that that hot breakfast was probably top notch, I'm not going tolie yas pretty good. Just for one of a kind hurt yeah now you're, like pizza,make you get better the next day. That's what I was going to go. If I wasin show hey, hey right, shadow to people like cold pizza right because Idon't get it, I don't get it. So it's a thing: ITIT S A thing! A barely! Now Ithink if you eat your pizza cared you're a social terrorist, socialterrorist. That's a that's! So Nice not ate the Otlet, that's what we're talking about patthat went from zero two hundred very quickly, just talking about the onewe're just talking about Gary v before right, yeah, I was saying how nervousyou would be to meet him in person totally bro Right, but just becausethis there's a couple of reasons right. One reason is because he changes hismind very often as well, right so he'd say something and then a couple ofyears later, he'll change it even if he said something that he agreed withbefore then he changed his mind. So that's that's interesting and I wasjust saying before one of the things that I did on mysocial media wall stop following so many people and the reason behind thatwas because locon pointed out once to methat you know if we once when I will watching UFC fights, look and said. Oh,you know that I'm saying I said something bout or fight. He said, Oh,if that's what you think you know. What's the fight by and mute the TVright, I was like okay, that's interesting and got me thinking. I waslike wait hold on a minute and I realized the fight seems quitedifferent, because all that commentary actually effects over you think a maybehow much of the social media influence drives away. I think, and I was like aso I stopped following so many people and like stopped engaging in theircontent. As you know, and then Gary Wiz me one of those people who have keptkind of constant because he you know he gives you the room to think wherethere's a lot of influences. Who are you know the all what they're doing isinfluencing? So I think that's a a good little thoughtbetran yeah and he loves it. You can tell he sort of live through it, butit's a secondary. It's not his main life. It's not. He doesn't live to postthings on social mediae as he does because he just helps so many people-and you know, he's so passionate as well and he's definitely been a guy forme that even when I haven't consumed his tough for a few months, there'speople that I'll see every day- and I go oh, I forgot. I follow that personlike and really good people to like strength, training or even justphilosophy or fighting people as well like Jeez, I used to like watching thisstuff, but I think it's a good personality trade that we both have andwe always seek out the you know: the healthy new perspectives, personalgrowth, development, that sort of thing, but once we get an idea, we sort ofstart to embody. That idea, and we critically think about it ourselves andthen we start to apply it, and I think some people get stuck in the loop ofhearing a good idea of somebody or something, and then they just keepgoing back to the worlds like. What else can they tell me what else? Nojust take this one piece like if you speak to anyone that success will mostof them that will have like their one or two. What's the best piece advice,he got Blah Blah Blah, but they took that one thing they ran with it. Youknow what I mean and and it's something to our psychology as well. The fightingaspect sports like that and just most other things like not that they're trying to conveymisinformation, and particularly, if you're, watching something likefighting in most sports and most things in life, there's so much more techniquein behind the scenes, things that you'd only get from being in the trenches.And you know the best commentators are usually ex athletes, but so sometimesthey can point out great things that you need to know like. Oh, I didn'tknow, he was doing this or use Spectavi why they lying that way like well he'sactually trying to get position like trying to get his left elbow here, andit's actually, the other guy doesn't want to give him the Ole and they'reactually doing this really great battle. It's hard to see that sort of thing.But, for example, a couple of weeks ago, connor or and dozen Poyer Connoro brings a certain amount ofenergy to a fight that no one else can replicate right, but he was not winningthat fight not even close, and they were giving him so much praise for hewas getting his head beaten up against the fence and he's like Oh, was doing.A great job of moving is braes getting punched in the face like so you knowyou go and do that. It's just a good example and F for me. I became likemore more. I thought more about the...

...fights than just reacting to what theysaid and I feel like social medias. That way, and sometimes you would juststop following us on because it's like I'm pretty sure he was posting thatsort of thing a few years ago, and is he really is not really developing? AndI don't know, maybe he's being fake or not, and that's one great thing aboutso the biggest for you to bring it my reis one of these still involving, butthese key messages are still based on the same things right. Well, that's it!Actually, one of the problems with influences per se is right. The wholebusiness model depends on people engaging with their content right thatthe problem that comes in- and this is me talking from a marketing point ofview right and I and then before. So this is one hundred percent, my field,and I know how this sporks right- and this is the advice ye I would keep aninfluence as well. So one of the things that happens is right. Often, Iinfluence would stubble across a following right by doing something orthey will develop a following and they'll learn what their audience likeright and they will keep replicating and and keep replicating it. Becausethat's what would work? That's why you see and the Contentis so unified. It'salways the same thing right almost the same thing that the want of problems-and they don't want to change because they are afraid, because the Internet,the Internet, is like the interent will pick you up in a second I'll dump youdown in non tomorrow. If that S, that's how it works right, especially when you,especially when people who gain the viral success or night success in thenext day, you'll get dumped down, because that's how the Internet is sucha fast moving environment. One of the the things is, the influences are heldback by their you know by they need to feed themselves because the ends arebecoming their job, so they can't change their content to much and theycan't allow themselves to evolve, because if they do the thing is peopledon't like change? They don't want to see a fitness model who started off byyou know putting her pictures or hot pictures of where she looks incredible,right, pictures of herself and all of a sudden and now she's going into youknow, because she is now about you know about. I don't know what he starts,giving advice on computers right, yes, yeah! You know she grew into the CU.Maybe she was studying a degree in the university and she goes okay. This iswhat I on to do. You think people know there's no way her audience are goingto accept that she's going to lose more she's going to lose more for then. Youknow her felers are going to be exactly as same as you know, when diesels here,like none, Stina's, good business practice rightto be constantly looking at your usual engagement like where people viewing mytaf particular if you're selling a program or you're selling a productlike he not got to know that sort of thing, but particularly if you're aninfluencer or your. I feel like that quick success. That's where it'sdangerous, because you just keep coming to the well and you're, not evolving,and it's like it'd, be scary. Man Like you're, getting success, you're gettingmoney, you're getting followers like you're feeling, good and but then youyou, maybe you put another video out or you try something else, and then youget nothing like thing about like if you're yougo content, crede write, like you you'reconstantly getting half of me in view is like ten hosen likes, and then youput out something that you really cared about and you get a tenth of it like. Iunderstand why it scares people off, but it is there's a lot of things and Iremember I actually spoke to a few like different influences this actually, soI remember having actually so I met Steve Cook Right, Steve, Cookis, PoCupels, having a conversation with him about, like the whole following yessaying that he gets so disappointed because you know he'll, try somethingdifferent or a new work out right and then he'll get thirty thousand views ornormally other videos that he normally does. You know he's been doing the samething. He'll get like you know for five hundred thousand Yeso this one he'llget the sand, so he was just. He said it himself because he gets quiteworried and, like you know, he's getting all what he said is like I'mgetting old and, like you know I want to like I'm, I mean I'm always about togo into my thirties and order to try different things right, and you know Ido different things, but you know it's like he gets confused o. That wasinteresting in coming from someone who has like you know two point: twomillion follows of five million follows. I think it is right, so that wasinteresting and then other like micro influence was a couple of my friends.Like you know, one of the one of the girls. I know she she's actuallypetrified of saying the wrong thing and like making a mistake and thinking thatit thinks she actually believes that you know people are going to kill herbecause if she says the wrong thing yeah, so I mean we answer cultures veryreal yeah. Just so did I think of what a what might be a good example is thehodge twins right, like an they've capitalized on a market. Now theystarted out kind of when we started lifting around that two thousand andeleven two thousand and twelve mark, and it was like Bro Lifting. There weresocial commentary as well and over the last few years, they've ditched thatand they're as they've grown order and they've strictly politics. Now rightand right now, the political finement is really hot and there's a lot ofpeople that want to hear that sort of thing, so the I think they're stillgrowing butt they sabotage a lot of the...

...even for me personally, like I stoppedwatching them for a while, because I wasn't interested in the politics andthey stopped doing to fit in the stuff, but then no were able to shift over andcapitalize, but there's other guys. I've known Scott Herman was another one.He is kind of around the same time frame and he still has a decent amountof views for videos still got like similar subscribers to what he had backthen, but he hasn't grown any more. His presto does the same thing he's gotsome more yeah, but he does it of social stuff as well.Yeah. That's one of the a another another interesting one was we spokenabout them before is probably a friend of the potgutted is good old. What'shis name, I always forget from a strength camp I used to be a a house.All he's got to Xala got em right, so thing is, and- and this is this iswhat's interesting a right summer time. The growth doesn't necessarily almismean it's good just means you are going to become the person that you weregoing to write whatever right, but for he lost not only lost follows by thethousands, but he I think he lost a blot to be honest but yeah in just lasteloth. It's it's really interesting to see how different people change and upwas, is going to lose. So that's why this was what I was saying. I so manyinfluences would never push you to grow out of your things. Push you to growout of your own circle or whatever you are in right andyou're in your little bubble that social media places yourself in this iswhat they talk about. T E t e the actual bubble that you end up becomingin your social media bubble, because you know Google decide arm a fitness,dude and they'll always fucking, give me fitness stuff and the I will neverget out of fitness b things right or none of my fitness influences areallowed to get out of it. And this is this: Og Stay Er some aspect forFittest d. It works good. But if you're someone who follows like- let's say youknow some other, you know fashion stuff, you being always staying this. You willnever know, I'm not saying that all those things are bad, but just sayingthat means you will never know what is beyond the walls of those social mediabubble. That gets created the wire, the ecosystem, the and he canans. Why a lot of those people who have the quick success? So they go into acertain area of content coverage because it's hot inthe moment and they capitalize and they get really successful. But then theyyou see him fall apart, like you hear stories that they're not doing welltaking drugs or this sort of thing, because they they should have playedthe short term game and weren't able to do with the realities of the constantlychanging landscape and it's kind of a new issue. Societal Y,don't consider, but it's going to be so prevalent and already is it's not justgoing to be, as social media continues to build a building becomes such animportant fabric of our lives like right now, they're still like thehierarchy, the top dogs and us you know- and people are between that's going toshift and mold and shift and mold until everyone sort of playing on the samefield. In some sense you know, particularly when jobs become moreonline and rely more heavily on social mud to which it already is. But youknow what I mean, so it's interesting how we're going to do with that dynamicyeah, I think, what's going to be interesting, is there's going to be amassive change in, and this is I kind of I had a feeling. This was going tohappen because the idea of the- and this has been the boy band idea rightbefore this- he was the boy band right, because every every three years they'llbe a boy band I'll just get ye up from the trenches of my Drud or you know theor the trenches of whatever voice. Australia right, you know and thenthey'll become big and they'll be famous and everyone will be like youknow you look at one direction right, like you know they were the hype of Teshype of the era at the time and they were big right. Every one to dress,like you know, goes a girls wanted to sleep with them and guys you know howdoes it pay them? I wanted to be them, but I wouldn't admit it you know. So itwas interesting. I'm looking at everyone, everyone hadthose color Chinos eyes. No lie O s. We were growing up in the primer. To thatsure, and you know you would balk shit about them, but you know everyonewanted to be like so it that was the same thing I think. What's going tohappen, is there is going to be a pivot point where the people are going torealize that most of these things, those people endup the attraction and the last that gets created around them. I thinkthat's going to fade and it's going to normalize a lot more as to what job youhave all if your influences tithing and those people are catching on fairlyquickly, but as it stands, I actually always get really surprised at thoselike. Let's say our influence or would put up, you know photo up or somethingand people actually go by. Like you know, it's really interesting. I workfor a company and then you know we sell stuff on e commerce. I have a ecommerce store and, like you know, to be completely honest, I myself workingin that industry. I don't very often go to a store. That's like you know. Let'ssay online store, for example, that is,...

...that is one that is individually run. Iwill go by something I very really. I would do that unless it's a veryreputable company, like I like most of the things I would buy would be on forcompanies like very big organizations, which is probably not a great thing,because it means I'm not supporting small businesses, but I find thatinteresting that people are so easily convinced to buy things like you know,with a little bit of smart marketing. I guess that's why I have a chop, but youknow I still do find that interesting. Selati can still work on you. You knowyeah. I mean it pro like I'm trying to think what was the last thing that Ibought that wasn't from like a major major organization. Well, you obviously know the first tensteps that are acquired to you know complete the purchase, get thetransaction a go, get the shipment, you know, send it through to the cure andget that sort of thing. So you understand how someone who's got a lotin their play struggles with it, and you probably had one or two badexperiences and that's what's so important about customer service rightaway. Is You enough comment that one thirty second interaction can literallyseparate life time business like it's that crazy? It's you know, and thereare so many various forms of customer service jobs out there, that peopletender overlook that in the you know, marketing finance law, like all thosebranches of business custom experience is the you know, it's the ground labelstuff, but it's a hundred. You can argue the most important. For thatreason, a hundred percent, the old afor. That's why the brands are where theyare because you're just old, consistent, reliable if it's late it's a day, late,not next semester. You know, like you get it, so it's totally human like it's!You don't know! I I about it yeah! I don't feel bad. I just I find itinteresting because I find that interesting that how like you know, knowing what I do andthe things that I do. That's probably one of the reasons why I don't becauseI know what it goes into, making people to buy things and how easy it is tosometimes I mean one of the things where you talked about is, I think, alot of the things times. I realize that is people like familiarity and oftenhave my armany times. They see something. So one of the things is, andI can probably show you to start and take Scritura like one of the storesthat I run right. I realized that people from facebook I have a higheraverage spent by thirty five percent right, especially a person who followsyou on Facebook, your brand right and then you got something like. Then yougo something like Google right where most of you income as come from, likethey'll Google, something you'll buy, often has a lower average spent,because those people are new to your friend and then you got. Then you gotsomeone who's emailed. You right and you spoken to them about something. I'mnot talking about like an advertisement email, I'm talking about someone whohad had a complaint or something like that right. They end up spending moremoney because they know you and like they know the brands so yeah. That's itthat's so I found I actually. This is like a start, and this is probably likesome commerce secrets that I'm dropping here but fork. So businesses will goout of their way, sometimes to create a problem where customer has to email.You right and they'll reply on average the the customers and you resolve thatproblem in a way where the customer is very happy right, normally sparscontact. We is a small life yeah that customer is likely to spend up to fortypercent more than they would have forty percent. It's a big margin. If you cando this crazy yeah, I ology that so sometimes sometimes you ship people's. You wouldn't send him a con for missionemail just for the sake of it, because you want to want them to email it.That's that's some like strain one marketing, O yeah crazy. When I used towork in a coal center like, I think that they wanted below five minuteaverage cold time, but you could regularly get three and a half minutesand that's average time so you'll get your thirty forty an hour. Long call isbut usually to mental to I've got so many passwords. I don't remember this:Can you quickly explain this to me? What's this details like how can I, how else can I get incontact with you? Whatever is marketing promotion and it's like you can getthese guns an done that quick and then that gets people to coming back. Theyknow all right. You know if I call this number, if I emil or live chat, Ireally write live chatters, one of the best ones, because it gives people theconfidence to reach out. A lot of people are hesitant if it's a phonenumber and then they expect a long period of time with an email right livechats like that middle man. It's really good. I rated yeah best my day, ladyand is less mantenon yeah exactly one of the tri one of the anotherthings that I found was I'm not talking about bad customer service right so,and social media is good too, but there's kind of like a still like aunprofessional nature to it sometimes,...

...and it's just treading to fine line, Iguess yeah yeah, although once again, if you're tryingto get the spend up, O you'd want to talk to them through social media, morelikely, yeah, it's a different, different, differentgame or different goals. One things talking about bad service right at themoment, I'm trying to speak to my university right on name University ofMont named them right so and I I you an example of horrible service right, so Iemailed them. I said Hey. This is what I need to do this and okay great. Youjust need to apply for this thing right. I said: okay, cool. How do and then Iemail back and they go back to me after three, the basses me, the Ud yeah. I type it in the box a yeah. So this is so funny right, so so keepin mind. My semester was about to start in two weeks ago or week ago. Right so Ineed to really get grin. I really needed to get this sort it before thatright. This also sent yeah, so I I said, send the email I said: Hey: Can we getlike a? What do I have to? I need to do this and they said after three daysthey go back to me. They said: Hey great you'd have to apply. No. Where isI thank you for your email. You have to apply for this and then I saidbasically just said: Hey. You have to full out apply for this and no otherinformation right at the bottom say you know, let us know if we can helpanything blah, blah, ah Bah, and then I replied back to an play. Thank you.Thank you for your email, please, let me know what is the process to applyfor this thing right and they said great? No, where is you just have tosend us the email and they gave me the imides that I was emailing on right. Isaid: Hey just have to email this and apply for the thing I wrote back and Iwrote the A I was like how and then when they say how to apply for her he'sjust said: send an email to this, a that's just up to just stating thatthat's what you want right. I said, that's very easy. I just wrote an email,so keep in mind every time I email didn't get back to me after three daysright yeah, it's been almost to almost this isnt going for two weeks now soand then they and then I wrote the email to that. They replied, saying Hey.We can't approve this because you need to apply for this and I was like what the fuck, I'm so confused, I saidSaid, took a screen shot and I sent it back. I said, but you said, send anemail to this to this adverse to apply for this right and they wrote back tome. Are you ready? They said Hey, as we said in the previous email. You justneed to apply for a police and a email to the folding address. I was so far confused and was it thesame person? Did they say different different people, Different Yeah Yeah?That's a problem and a now I'm still waiting on to hearing back from them. Isaid, please give tell me the name of the person who has to approve this andwhere I have to apply for it. So I'll see what happens, but that's horriblecustomer sere son Yeah, not even- and I sat a une, so I so I was thinking I waslike man. Is this university for real, like just I mean you've got so much money at likeyour disposable. This dispose right. You have so much to spole money, RigPosea, you know, and you just and you can use that to like create systems,and you got this incredible. It infrastructure that you can use fucking.Give me a form link. Give me something right. Just how can you give me thesame just templated, email, firstman and the worst? I was in the last emailthat I felt I got this little, it's probably hard because it's an email,but I kind of got this little. You know vibe of like fuck, you like just get onour back sort of thing. I was like what is happening so a horrible customerservice. It's not that like the thing is they can do that because they'reuniversity, the same reason why the government would never answer. You callbecause you're bound to go there right, but as a business, you can't do that sointeresting. A I remember when I worked there- and I was two I see to our teamleader- and we you know so depending on who is rusted to to what jobs that sort ofthing you'd get put on emails and and you'd see on your colleagues say youknow, can explain this as poor previously mow. This is thesolution, but they haven't gone back two or three mails to say that we'vealready said that to him and they've asked another question and it just asecond of work, and so, like you don't know, if it's just constant they've gotnew stuff there. If they've just got a massive work load, maybe the persondoing customer services in charge of administration and Rolins. Like you,don't know the situations, but as of is principally it's really easy. It's justapplying yourself and it's just my don't help like a minute or two butBaalah. We, it's just have to giving me the information that you have that Idon't that's all. He is right and one of the things I found interesting right.So I worked for Education Institute before Riden. I know right, I know fromfirst and how this all worts, right and and from a university points of view aswell. The this they may have different...

...people, but even though they may because most of the questions are very stupid. First of all, and a lot of themeasy to deal with right, and there is student management systems that aredesigned for just dealing with. So many of these bombs is so easy. Every likethis is breaking just one link one link to a an that's all hows required now.If it's a Universai has never organized the link to apply for that or like aform to apply for that, well got Tam. I should probably tranchant universitiesright yeah, otherwise, otherwise you know it's just so interesting. Anyway,until I was liking, a new customer will finish it, but I'm like doubly down,because I fucking feel this deep in my loins, if, like you've, got to use a name, you'vegot your profile on system, whether it's university, whether it's a beddingsite, whether it's a you know, a commerce account if you've done priortransactions or you've got your record on on system. If you're not quite sure,of what the Queerie means- and this is from a customer service point of view-you can go into their profile and go AH. Okay. They've done this- have done that.You know, and it's kind of easy to put two and two together: If you're notsure the incompetency tries me nuts to so yeah, I for sure he's a Leecher, thefact of the menteries, a lot of people hate their jobs and that's just yeahfact. A lot of people have these jobs because they don't know what else to dowith their life Ye. That's the scary truth and that's why all this shithappens. Yeah gone. I can. I have heaps of empathyfor people in various situations and I very rarely vocalize when I you know,grinds my gears that old that old segment, but there's times where itneeds to be done because sometimes you're, just so stuck in your head thatyou need to be snapped out of it. Well I mean I should we the question is Imean this? Is I guess a bit of a psyche? Question Right? Should you haveempathy for those people because they have a choice right, they're, stayingin that job, because so they can go out parting on the weekend and make moneyand then live right, I'm okay! Maybe some people have to feed their familyshort right. I get that right, but I more often than not I find like youknow you can get the same job somewhere else. Maybe you'll enjoy it more likeone on you go for the option, but then again look you know. This is a talk.I'm sketching surface here right, I'm talking about people my age with abitchy attitude at my at our age. You don't get to have a bitty attitude,because there's two reasons why and okay once again, I'm generalizing hereI understand in me people in em. It was right. The see people's lives would bedifficult right. So I'm talking I'm talking about people who are veryhealthy. You know still live with their parents and they're in a job mostlybecause so they can, you know, afford their. You know life type, somelifestyle mostly to go out parting and all that stuff right, and it's nothing wrong with that. Butthe problem is: If you're going to hate the job, only be there for the paycheck.That's a problem right! That's a problem because that's you're making mylife harder, who someone's trying to do something. For example, in thisscenario, my life is becoming harder and I just want to do something that Ireally want to do right, I'm enjoying like I'm in a job that I enjoy, and I Ihave enough time and energy to still balance the university here and thenyou're just there making my life harder and then you know someone would saywell, I should be more empathetic and then go. You know I don't know. What'sgoing on with the life your yeah that's true, but for fuck like like Holy Shitlike what do I have to do to like get something done here? You know yeah,it's not a difficult thing: Ye Huh, yeah, robby, CO, cold yeah! Ididn't have the time because I was you know, that's another problem right.This is collins commitment. You know! No! No! It's not! This is a societyproblem right, so I work nine to five right. When I really even I say, Ninetyfive were from you know eight forty five through to like five forty fivesix o'clock. formost right most days so in that time, right, if I have to likelet's say, organize a meeting go to appointment, it always has to be inthis time right and I most of the time I'm so busy with work that even if Isay that I have to call someone, I forget to call like if it's a personalthing, because I'd be focused on work, so I can't do that. But on the weekendmost of these places are closed. So I can't do it on the weekend. Yeah, it'sa great part, so I always find that interesting that, like that structure,like you know, let's, if you have to go to like I don't know, get your get to go to a dentist, and most entisare only open Monday to Friday night to five but yeah like yeah. What you gotto sacrifice times yeah so is sing to systems, are broad in place to givepeople the weekend. You know, and it was a good structure that you couldhave continual business five days a week and good customer service have theoptions. But you know it's going to be slow on the weekends where you'reholding up you know. So it's a that is a just lit and is that is that a bro?Is that something that just go majorly missed by Lichas like what like? Isthis a loop like you know, there's no...

...answer to that like how do you fix that?Well, you take a day off, but I don't want to take a day off. You know likewhat o employ doesn't allow me to take a deal or whatever yeah you know so,most of the time you can. But you go all you know. You know. Even a carservice pray like really important like if you know longevity of your car pays a terrible price if your five tenTozer Kas consistently over service time, but you when I going to go sure Ican do it at home or you know I can start late one day, but that's why so go to still no family that at so interesting that this isstill a thing like no one has figured out a way to make this work. Like youknow, I don't know, maybe, like all the service businesses work on the weekendand like all that you know, you know, like all the merchandises,and this is work on week, day E, and is there a solution to that? You know,like I don't know. Caleis restaurants they're certainly busy during the weekend, but they have small pockets of time lunch time for businesses thatsort of thing their weekend is their being business days, so make sense forthem and then makes sense that mechanics and tax accountants are notopen and one weekend because they're doing the bulk of the s like thinkabout going to see a tax agent, that's a sie! You know online facilitates itso much better, but you can't get your service online for your car until weall have test list, but that's another story for another day: Yeah Yeah. Can Ijust get a service in always enough yeah, just the of that on the customeror for test went start. I just turn it on off brilliant. I was talking about all the with state of the topic of fire, whichis so easy to talk about, which is the Cornavin at hand just quickly one thingon a sand: We won't Corinto this right, God dam, that's all I wanted to say seewe a holy Shit, seventy percent of people getting at the moment it's Ithink eighteen percent of people who've been fully vaccinated, so at thecurrent rate, twenty percent. Is that what it is at the moment yeah? I thinkit's about fifty percent for the one shot and twenty or so for, but twenty,so so twenty percent, you know up put the twenty percent people who mean avaccinated, so this vaccination program has been going on. Since I want to say,fad or March. That's when I really had to fit up the right for people that arenon frontline workers yea, so it took it took six months almost six months toget eighteen percent of people vaccinated, and I think to be honest, but in sayingthat right- and I cant some numbers that the day, because I don't trust thegovernment right. I do think certain things are right, but I don't trust thegovernment, so I did some crassum numbers. It came to me. I was like okayat the moment, so you go. I did. I did some pet little. Some calculationsright based on what the present Ge of increase are so Sydney's cases I think,will probably hit a Pousen if not shy, of thousand right, probably goading,and I think that people be probably around close to end of focus right and thenthey'll come down really quickly by September by an even number sand perday. In a day, probably, I think they'll, probably the hat a big numberright, a thousand numbers, a thousand cases in a day. I think, after that,they'll start coming done fairly quickly. That'll be when five hundredthousand people get tested yeah, because that's the right it is at themoment there was two hundred and ten. Yesterday there was a hundred tenthousand tests. Yes, I, when it gets to a thousand it'll, be fire Asani mean wehad two thirty Nien, then when we had two thirty nine cases that was like aout of seventy thousand cases on yeah, so it's not in fact yeah. I oxeye, so Ithink we'll probably get close to a close to a thousand cases yeah anddoesn't seem like that's going to it's still rising here yeah. So I thinkafter that will dip very very quickly and then by Septemb end of Septemberwill be like out and about like there'll, be nothing. I think about theend of September November. Be Very good t December will be very good, General Rat line you don't think so that I think lockdown wise they're going to keep himin until I can end up filling to get solmon they're talking about taking itto the after Christmas. They can do it to kind of hang. Isustain it. You know, I don't know he got afford it, but I mean it's beentheir dialogue. The last week they've been pumping. What is it, what is itseven billion dollars a week into New South worlds right more than that?Probably actually I'm getting it wrong, but they kind of sis they's no way thegovernment consist in that yeah. I don't think it's seven in, but it'shundreds of millions yeah, but yeah yeah, don't yeah yeah yeah, I think t the the consistant is no waythey consisting in that. I think I...

...think, by end of September I think,will even if there's some cases, they'll open up fairly quickly yeah byby November, will be flying no problem. I think that's just difficult, because,like you open up again, you didn't really set a precedence or a numberthat you wanted to be under. So if you reopen and then a couple ofdays later, the number shoe beds up again, which you think they wouldbecause more people being you know around each other than what you justdon't go back again or why did we go back last time and they're stuck inWisconsin, went into a look down again right after after five days are beingopen, yeah and Victoria, just alas, cold dead, snap, lockdowns andobviously it doesn't happen that way because more people have already beeninfected, but particularly when it's all in community. So it goes on themfor a month. So it's like turning on. I actually have a great analogy for aright cricket, always so back in the day, especially when you had anofficial empire when it starts raining right, theUMPIRES wouldn't go off as soon as we start to feel like springing. Thatwould let it come down again, because once you go off because of rain, it hasto completely stop and that's insurance purposes right, and so they sort of letit go. If it's passing good, if starts raining, hard will come off, but assoon as you go off because of a little bit of rain, it has to stop. I think,covered these numbers are the same as soon as you shut things down for a fewnumbers, ten, fifteen twenty. You have to wait until it's done now,because then you go the way Sa Yeah and unfortunately we don't live in asociety where our leaders can be so open and just honest about everything.They're going to be like all right. We know there's a risk here, but we got toget things moving again, there's going to be a surge in cases, we're going towatch it closely, but we you know we need to get the ball rolling and it'snot it's it's this way or that way, and I feel like there needs to be a lotmore yeah and like a dialogue, because, ultimately, in a and this is you knowgetting rolled up again when you live in a democratic society, the people inleadership are her the service of people, not the other round. You knowwhat I mean: We don't live in China, we don't live in North Korea and, likeit's an extreme example, but some of the fundamental decisions they'remaking, even though I actually believe deepdown they're doing it for the bed amount of us there, they do public image and just it's outside influences. It's I don'tknow what it is, but it just doesn't make any sense, because they'reliterally destroying people's lives and now commit economy far greater thanOvid has at the moment, Covic get really bad in Australia. We have notseen bad coved, not even close. How? What is the thing is? This is thebiggest thing, and this is this is not me talking and then someone hears he'llbe like oh well. What do you mean right? There's this people, actual people whoare like you know, work around this health and this talking about the sizeof Australia and as supposed to people, for you know a million people butcapital whatever they call right, yeah right, so huge good, arbanes year, lesssick, India is a mean and were be twenty. Ten, yes were homer or whateverit. It yeah and so huge, and I'm not even talking about like where no onelives, like you know, but black nowhere, a mile seas, estrays uninhabitable,Yeah Right, the as bess constant, even even in the even number like even gottime like it takes me. It takes me an hour to get from one side of the cityto the other side of the city, yeah it's in the city itself. So what do youlike? You know? It's so big like this is room everywhere. Of course, the caseis like what you know the. So it's just so weird that Australia can even becontrol that, like the government, can't control this so anyway, we won'ttalk too much about it. Yeah to this end there you know the deal Tetra andwe saw what happened in India in England and Australia doesn't want tobe a replication of that, because that was the world focus was on whathappened there and obviously we were all terrified. You know the storiesthat came out of India were terrible but, like this is basic numbers, isn'tit o quality of health or quality of life?The amount of people that live in such a small space like and and we have- wehave just resources at our finger tips. You know what I mean or billy to lockpeople down it so much better because yeah and forget everything else.Australia's got only got twenty six million people yeah only I mean thinkabout Australias, but the mones will be one of the most countries in the world.Right like it's amazing. Are they up there with like population wise right,like inland, is the size of Greater Melbourne, so a Greater Melbourneregion and it's got one point five times a population in Greater Melbourneregion. I know it's insane and then I was thinking always it. Someone wastelling me the other day and I didn't. I was like what they were saying:Germany right they go up parts of two hundred and sixty two hundred sixtymillion people, or something like that...

...right. I want something like that right,I don't know the numbers, but someone said to me: Go Oh Germany's the size ofjust shy of smaller than is half the size of what was it? No new SONSIE.Germany, as like, what do you mean, I looked it up, it's something like NewSouth as four times the size of Germany, but like caze, you know yeah. I thinkit was a holy Shit. That's like fuck. Our country is huge ships, huge, likeiness from memory with the size of e, and particularly with the number ofpeople that live here right and yeah. I'm talking about. Like you know, let'snot talk about the places that, like unhabitable, even our cities are bigand our you know other, like you know, new news up, as is huge like or likehow you spread, like think about the fact that there's a population habitedfrom like you Katuma all the way in Sydney and down all the way up to youknow all the web to like going towards Newcastle and all that stuff right,like you got, people spread out. That's very populated, a yeah yeah very yeahvery evenly spread out right m, so it seems, like you know, yeah it's insane,it's quite confusing, especially because they know answering thesequestions that are coming up on their head. Yeah, you know, thinks that's.Why focus on just shutting down quite unquote misinformation? You knowit's just a you know. It is it's not it's bad like if a leader was doingthat in a business. It's like this guy's like taken their it's lookyerrors. You know yeah, better dialogue and- and Iunderstand it's funny because you know what we're talking about in regards tohow people's P, what the words that people choose and are becoming from thecommentary of the fight, for example, for the UFC yeah, it's exactly atfinding- and this is one of the things I found right. So many people you talkto, they would use the same words to give you that they hear from thepolitics or the general narrative, that's beingcontroled by the government, a thing that you hear, I'm like, Oh, why can'tthey do it? No, it was in me was unprecedented time. O Fuck. Are youmean unpresidential, there's no right way to drink the fuck. You mean there'sno right way. The government had fucking hundreds of years to fuckingplan for this shit yeah. So many people. How did you not know he was a type yeahlike there was there? was there was a plague before there's a flag beforethat ride? It's been constant in history. I fucked. Did you missed that?Like did you just actually forget to Mister? If you did miss that okay cool-we'll? Forgive you soon as you forgive me, my fucking, speeding, fine, becauseit's a mistake as well. I frewenton that, like oh no riting in but no talking is in an get crazy because they'regoing to have to earn this money back grow. I give on us a lot of money.Helping people live. You know I can go into another story that that I think Itold it about talk to you about before. Or would you like to go into thefinance stuff yeah we had, we can shift over and I was going to mentionsomething about the media and I'm like we could save it. Unless you reallywant to get off your chest, it's fine. I just got them I'll, be really quick,because I feel like we're on now. Forty three minutes in the mostly this, a inthe conversation to a yeah. This finance could be wait till then theweek, maybe possibly yeah, possibly so, unless you just ready to it, do thatsometimes you side step and then you just step into the complect, like Ohfuck, like what you mentioned before was like a perfect segue into theimplex. I could believe it I'm like. I know I know. So what are the thin oneof the things that has happened right was, I go fine when I moved to newsouthwards because turns are when you move to New South Wells or you intendto move to New South wels. Your this is the key word intent right. The is yourcar automatically becomes unregistered right. The moment you decide, so youcould be for M in the morning. You could you know in like in Barkful.Nowhere. Let's say you know, you're in Wodonga right in the born. You Go.Maybe I'll moved to news as well as you guys on the Jiste. That's how it worksright, that's the that's their rule, that's a legitimate rule right and youcan't becomes Andreis the moment. You intend to move you're driving underdistrict car right first of all in sane rule. Right second thing is so I wasdriving the car and my Victorian plated car, which is keep in mind. I reallywant to, and I sent you a screenshot as well right of this. AH, my car wasregistered right. My car was registered to Victoria for another, maybe another fifteen days or something like that maybe a month right. So when I wasn't out of Frangi No, no definitely I al sobadly construed in that message that you got Yep so hi that you're you weredriving and unregistered, uninsured vehicle Yep. So that's what that's athat's. What happened right so I and I got my employment. They fucking statedit that's what they said that he actually stated that yeah, you know. Sothis is so insane right, and this is this is our the government that isdeciding our fucking fate here right. So I I you know, I got pulled out bythe police and they said Oh you're...

...driving a bicton play the car I saidyes, my license is still Victorian as well. I've just- and this is my mistake-I said I've just moved here and he said an he said. All right put your caraside, you cat his energy, so you driving on a just cars like what do youmean? He goes? I smike my car is registered. He goes now because youmoved to Nis at wells and you've shown no show no intention of changing your changing your plate to Nis at well. Iwas like I am so fucking confused like this was like. I was actually confused.I was like what is happening like I actually didn't. Think I was doinganything wrong turns that I was right so, according to the government, so Igot pulled over, I got. I got a fine one. Fine was for driving aunregistered car and the second find was for not paying and not payingAustralia. Not Paying was it statement some state tax, yet I say Tex right, soI go to find so roughly I find totaling up to teve hundred dollar ove hundredan seventy five right so for not doing anything wrong. I stilldon't think I did anything wrong, but because I and I'll ask you in a second,if you think I did an well, you know I didn't think I was doing anything wrongbecause my car was registered and I had just moved to New South Ros. You know Ireally was getting settled in because you know because of all this rones you know justmentally you're so drained and look you know looking for a new job, so manythings going on and you know that was like my. I was like Oh yeah, I'llchange, my car, because my idea was my rage runs out in about fifteen twentydays. I was changing over where it was perfect. Perfect it okays sweet, andthat was the reason why I didn't read register in Victoria, because I waslike I'm movin on supes right yeah so turns out. I got find to in dollars,and I said this doesn't make sense and I didn't think I did anything wrong. SoI was like. Maybe this was just a really shitty cop that I got. Let meappeal that, right before I move on, do you think I did anything one in thatsense. So for me once you, you know once you moveback home and for me moving is once you change your address. So, like your mailing address, you'rephysically living there, I can understand how you need to get yourvehicle registered in the state of living and right, but you're expressing that they said tothat is once you thought about moving yeah and they employed. No all theystated that your vehicle was not registered there. It's Jes. Just to. Let me give you alittle bit more contest. I an I tell what it is. Posin a hundred percentyou're, a young feller. You would have been nice. You wouldn't have been adicto place officer, it's just a scumbag move right. Soanother thing that hape right, so this is this is hold. Listen to M my my was. It called Rent Agreement orwhatever it's called right. My lease reign out four days before I got finedin Victoria. So this is how close it is to me movingto Sydney right, so I had basically just moved to Sydney anyway yeah. So so that means like I was still like itwas so I had just been off my last like, if that make sense right, a last e yeah,so finish right right so anyway, that's that's a that aside right, so I go findand I came back home and I said okay, let me up appeal that and maybe see ifthey can give me more information or at least unions right or like you knowsome, because I said hey look. You know I actually just a being fine right,yeah tea, speed, limit, put people's lives in danger and they get fourhundred bucks yeah right. So I said he I don't help me understand this. Likeone of the things is, I just didn't even know this. This existed becausewhen I moved to Victoria right they said you have like I think, thirty daysor three months or something like that right. I can't remember exactly what itwas right yeah. It was a fair chance. That's a good point right. They, youknow, you have moved it because you know, and I a grace paradis greatspirit right and, like you know, so I was like okay, it's that's fine, so Iwas like all right. That's cool! Let me send an email said: Hey! I had no ideathis existed. Second thing is my car was registered right like Mike. I wasregister B Mike, I was rich is to Victoria and the Blah Blah Blah. You know how I had just moved in. Isthere a you know it's this fun. You know. Is there a way that we can lookat some leaning cy because, like I generally just didn't, know, and bethat you know, I don't think this fine applies to me. This is like you know,because I've just moved here like and I don't think I've literally just movedit. If that was the case, anyone who drives PAS in drives in victor fromVictorian plated car in new southwards they cast on register right. If theystay here for three days right or like a weekes, then they're not payingfederal to the state tax right. So but apparently that wasn't the case, butanyway, so I send a Hemi. They go back to me. They're saying ignored everything I said we take intooaccount what you said that you didn't...

...know about this. However, this finestill applies because you were driving a unregistered car. I was like, I said to you and I veryclearly steady saying that my car was unregistered right. So I was like thisis very confusing because you're not saying that my car wasn't new South Osplated, but your saying that my car has been registered, and so I send an emailback to think my car was we going in the dist to see what happens, butthat's ver, interesting right. I thought it was that was oratate yeah!No! No! Yet it was. I thought it was horrible of them to not even read myemail and just reply to me saying yeah. It doesn't apply to you, so you knowthey you so this the kind of fucking government that we're paying thirty twopercent out of every tent that we own yeah. It's crazy right, yeah anyway. What stroked something I was wanting to talkabout was trying to figure out how to fit it in. But obviously you know thebiggest sporting event going right now got postponed for years. You know whenthe Olympics first started. I thought I was just not the right time. What'sgoing on in the world, Japan we're going through a really high surge justbefore the Games, even though I think that might have been a little bit ofMani media manipulation to try to get it postponed like anyway, it's weird,but that's regardless. So it's been going on for nearly two. Oh just over aweek now and Australia done really well right, like normally were around topten top fifteen over our metals, but we're top five men we're right thereand some events like bmx we've just got something in diving. Our soccer isgoing really well like events that were normally touch and go in. We've beenreally successful in and like. If you look at the top nation right now, it'sgenerally always China- and you know they just they have a system set upthat if you show promise talent or the ability to perform something at a youngage. You'll be training really hard in gymnastics from three or four years old,and the government will incentivize you to keep training and keep building, sotheir system is set up, so strong, like the Olympics, for them is so importantlike so much money goes into it. You know what I mean so they're always upthere just because of the time they dedicate in the fact they've got to be,and people right, so they've got twenty one gold medals and forty five over allwith Er being population, Japan, home nation they're. Going to do well, theirathletes can sleep relatively close to home, seven and golds thirty overallgood job, the US three hundred and fifty millionpeople. Sixteen golds forty five over all pretty close there to China they'realways right up there as well massive sporting nation, Russia, which isactually really interesting. The last Olympics close to fifty of theirathletes or fifty percent of their eflect, were banned from competing thisathletes because they found out there was this massive state sponsoredsteroid usage and just like so many athletes were disqualified like metal,I ficaria, that's it so they called the Russian Olympic Committee. Now it's notjust Russia, it's the Russian Olympic Committee, so people that hadn't faileda test or whatever else they've got a hundred and fifty million people. Maybeseventy five, because you can take half the athletes right. Ten gold, thirtysix over all, were ten golds in fifth place: Ten Goals: Twenty seven, soChina first one point: two Bin People, Japan, a hundred and fifty million theUS three and fifty Russia a hundred mean depending athletes, twenty fivemen and we're fucking right there broke. So if our population was even matchJapan, five times all we had here, if you go off the numbers would have youknow thirty forty guilds would have fifty sixty. Seventy, like it's justamazing. Obviously Australians love their sports, and you know there'sgreat systems from a young age that you can train in almost any sport and youcan get really great coaching and society really encourages to do a like.If you you know, like the US, for example, Ti to I vasa he's fighting theheavyweight division at the moment, his from out short, the whole country getsbehind you right, like people really love it so you're in Ternoise, not justthrough opportunity, but also encouragement so strait. Does thatreally? Well? We have the system set up, but we're just fucking dogs pro. Wejust don't quit and it's so amazing to see a country as small as what we arecompeting on the gray and stage literally the Olympics, which is youknow, the most international, in condition an e e wall more thaneverything, because it's nearly every country, my favorite part of theOlympics, is every every cycle. You learn a new country like fuck, I didn'tknow they existed, Waseca and Kwiger. You know whatever else, but yeah sojust shout out to the S es like we've done, but we generally do pretty well,but this year something special is but swimming always one of our strongestlike we're. Second one, the US, which is amazing and the track and fieldhasn't even started, which could give us a whole bunch more as well, which isjust fucking amazing, so yeah shad that to shut out a lot O es over there doingthe damping fuck a thing and brewer ahead of aGreat Britain, those slummy dogs,...

England, joined up with Scotland, Walesand Ireland to create Great Britain. So that's fucking four countries and theystill can't even beat US three. You know people, you know what the funnypope is right. You're. The funny thing is at the end of the man we can wear.One of the funny thing about in going is: Is this suck at everything right?They create a cricket and they can even win a fucking game. I it's pretty funnyand I think it's probably because I tell you what it is. AustralianAustralian country is itself it. It's a very eclectic country like a lot yeahdamn and like when I say the various Leica you look at the pose is Real Shit,Brose Hundred Felis, you know a lot of vitamin D and then probably has a lotto do with the fact that, like you know, you got that Australians over all. Likeyou know this, if you go to go to a room right out of ten people, you findthat three of them are play some sort of spot yeah and one of the one of themplay for. Like a you, know, places district Wigan, one of them senners,ntate and, like you know they always just seem to be very good at what to do,and that's what I always find that really in Itin, like that nine Perelethan half o streghe can swim, and some really good because, like not butSantob Great Bis, you know atsito think that's! That's interesting is also it'sa very healthy, healthy nation I mean just in back. I was taking to sorry cut off. I was trying to thinkwhat his name is frank. I used to work with him at the airport and he was amassive soccer fan. I was speaking to him about the cricket and evinly picsand Socker is like you know you guys, don't have really great teams, but whyis it? Why do England go through periods where they're really good andthen they suck for a long time when they come back and he's like being overthere and like they've, got all this system set up that Australia, asthrough schools through universities, like you, can play sport wherever yougo, but leadership and like coaches and you know, presidents of sporting ororganizations they're all old masters, so in Australia, you've, like the headcoach of one of the head, coaches of a swim, is twenty six years old. You knowso he's constantly evolving. The sports are constantly evolving getting newperspectives. You obviously need people that have the experience to get there,but you need that new blood to be constantly changing thing, and he justsaid England, like a lot of our rugby union like just the old boys from thesevens radies are still linging around is like fuck off. You know a that's asocietal thing as well. I think, like we almost have a problem with authority.Respect some tops you ther, that's a B, That's interesting! I was a Ford thatuntil we brought that up yeah, that's probably a big thing why it probablymakes us more talate anyway, because it's probably anything athletic istechnically against the Status Court. So that's probably a you know major both shot in that right,and then you got the fact that you know often older people. Your finding, like,especially in American movies, you Obvius, there's like a old coach, soteaching people out to play. You know you know if or what is it called NFL orwhatever it is right, yeah in his sweating and he's just like Le ScaryBoys Yeah. You know still it's a lot more younger, but I find, inter I findan interesting show. The experience is really important, but it's not theexperience that wins people the Games right, it's more so on factor yeah onefactor is more so a lot of it is the will, and you know you lost, of winningalong t. You know at ise people just got interesting. I think it'll be ajust a constant. You know efforts to be continually on,prove and doing things new and differently, like the sport evolves and like even so. The by is the unit cessorfor my exercise, Ocola y unit at Southern Cross, and he's done a coupleand he's twenty eight he's got his PhD, but he's like the president of FootballNorth North Coast as a well as which is like a three hundred colo killer me.The radius like he is in charge of athletic development like and he's beengiving those opportunities, because he's shown he has the initiative, andyou know, he's a critic, a thinker and all these sort of good traits and so tthat sort of society we live in, like one of the anare coaches, are likethirty four years old like this play is that are older than him. You know whatI mean, so it's a good time. I guess yeah, it's a good time for sure shotout to those is looking forward to for a few more Golden Day. I think afew mostly regards and is I e e Fina Ma it is liking. The entire thing can Ijust say that is Jess Fawks got ter sho, so freaking es yeah good on herfrom inges called as Wot. You see her on some TV ads yeah, so her mom and dadwere both Olympians. The first eventual was in the canoe salon. I know I was acanoe Kayak. It's just a slightly different vehicle. The've got to gothrough the course, so she got silver in that and her dad was commentating asshe was doing it crazy. I just imagine...

...that a motion, but he was really hard on her. She waslike telling telling the audience when she was like screwing up and he's likelight me. Stop there. I'm, like you, know, think about that, given obviousness right, yeah right, soI pie coach and her damage she's, a a French. She was a French athlete, yeahwow and then she end up win in gold and smashed the gold one. It was reallygood but yeah. It was just interesting that dynamic an a lot of the athletes,not not surprisingly, come from. You know they have the genetics of theirparents, but they also have the discipline the direction. It's not likeyou're just going to go play sport. If your show some talent do you actuallywant to do it right, bank we're training five days a week for this shit?You know so, and I mean a massive lit. I didn't what's the word monumental there that'sthe weird monumental moment for us today. Abbe took her first proper stepsjust over an now go and like I don't want to be the parents going to forceher to do anything she doesn't want to, but if she and she's already so strongand she's got like this massive CARF, so I'm like mad, if she's good atsomething where we're training like a motorable, I was dog shit at Sports, orI took me a long time to get good if she has real natural ability. Like him,I'm actually did like Charlotte was an amazing swimmers, a Kida. If she had amore support of dad, she could have gone on to pretty good level way andshe's, just talented. So if Abbe has that my you know, I have a question foryou right. Twenty years later, we might win my heart. I happen. Hopefully you never know Olympics. Didyou know that about Charlotte Yeah? I did I didn't near a summer right. I wasthinking, though there's I just have a question, so this is kind of completelyside stepped a conotton quickly. Yeah, but this is something that you saidkind of reminded me of this right: Do you think the fact that we both suck atsports right but we've always loved sport right yeah? We Got Society Very. I love sports as much as the next dudeor people who like much for anyone who plays right of people really good at itas well right, but I suck right. I really sun, an some of it. I can O Godfor seventeen years exactly know some of it. Some of it. I can blame mygenetic. I leave because I can go or like it's much harder for me to dropbody fed, but it's also easier for me to gain strength whatever it. Oh that'sdifferent right, but I wonder if some of some of it has to do with that whichis really undisciplined, dudes yeah yeah, you like what, for example,Charlotte like if she's a really good simmer. She sounds like someone whowould have put it like put in a lot of effort at she was before, and afterschool for five days so like before seems like. If it was like me, I wouldhave be like half after time year, like you know, e Said Day, a half as if thatmakes sense, yeah must definitely and that's where you need like kind of notthat the parents, my parents, were always so supportive, but they neededkind of the mindset of what that is to like all right. We can actually trainthis thing and then actually paying the money to have a coach, like as a youngperson, to see someone once a week like if you got in the nets with a propercoach one hour a week and just focus on the cover drive focused on watching thewall. Whole way like you want to just progress massively and and some peoplewould just fucking, be all different. You know some people, his naturaldasent for me, for me bit was very much like. I think one of the reasons Ifound like I know life, for example, take for is cooked, for example. WhyNow? I know why I wasn't good at cricket right, don't on. The firstthing is: first thing is: Whenever I did anythingin my life, I got really shitty hand. Eye Coordination are really. I justcan't pick things up yeah, it's weird I've always known I've struggle with it.I knew that my reaction time wasn't fast. I just know it. I think I'mprobably a little bit similar yeah. There was there'd, be these random dayswhere I was on. I'm like Oh my gosh, but I could never like it was rare. Youknow, Yeah Yeah, I think my mind was more mental, because ASLyeah, my is Mo Mental. One of the things is like whenever I do. WheneverI do something right the moment, I start doing it. I first of all my goalis I'm going to reach to the end of this. Like thing Eh, like, I, don'tthink about just playing cricket for plan cricket right yeah. I is thatworks against me and for me right for sure. If I keep doing that thing, I'llprobably end up becoming the thing that I want to do right, there's two thingsthat happen. I progress very quickly right in certain things. Another thingis, I don't progress at all, because I'm not willing to take the thing forwhat it is, as you wanted to be there like, as not too far ahead, yeah onblue lay for Australia. That's how it'sgoing to right, which was like you know, I kind of says my ambitions foreverything. Like that's what I've done like I remember when I started Djingright. I said I said to myself as like. Oh I started easing. I'm like I got onplay it tomorrow. Lent, like you know, this is the life I a thing was Iactually to really good? You know. It had became very good and I played a lotmore like it was like in it went from like you know. Let's say today I saidwant to be a DJ in three months time I was like Dja a hobby. I right it was soit became very quickly became very good.

However, I did realize if the biggestthing was, I wasn't willing to give up the other things yeah. As for Serfice,the sacrifice I was never was ling that I was never willing to give up. Let'ssay my business, my jobs and stuff ye to just do that with same thing withyou know same thing with cricket, I was never willing to give up anything else.Yeah, that's probably a major lay, even though yeah so I always got to comealong. Then very naturally, it's not even a choice you give up and somethings that you really want, like you really want to be a good creer. That'sjust not on our cards. You know it's not a bad. I I also definitely dealt with a lot ofanxiety with it, as all like for sure, the most nervous I've ever gotten. Myentire life is batting like the leading up to badding and it used to I used tolike sabotage opportunities or I'd get out there, and I just would be out offocus because I was scared and I get out because I was like anxious thetimes when I could be relaxed. It definitely was a game changer as well, but really interesting. Like my firstor Second Year of coaching, I felt so much more comfortable and I was able tostill analyze the game and I knew a lot and you can still understand and teachthe fundamental movement patterns without being a demon yourself. Youknow what I mean like I'm not going to go and coach a professional team,because I'm not at that level, but you could. You could teach high level, kids,even kids, that are better than you like. I was coaching on the sixteenthree quarters of the team were better cricket as an IT. I could still seecertain behavioral patterns or just technical fors. They were doing withtheir badding bowling and feeling that would help them and sure I coulddemonstrate it on a slower level, but there they bowl quicker they back. Theycan hit the ball further they're more explosive, like they had all theattributes, but like as a coach, I was able to still be beneficial to them aswell, and a lot of those guys dealt with like old men as coaches, so it waskind of cool for them to have an eighteen year old, coachy, and you knowI felt like they all got better. You know what I mean. We all got better atfree, the you and they all all their parents. You don't listen to the kidsbecause they tell you what they want to hear, but the parents, some of theparents that are really honest. They, like yeah, you really help. So that wasgood yeah! That's a e boxing now, like I'm sure, I've got one functioning footand I'm a little bit slow and I'm all right at sparing and that sort of thingbut like for how much I've trained and how well I do against people that havebeen training this or me. I know it's going to come to a point where I'm atthe back of the line. Again, I'm actually enjoying my time at the front.It's probably the first time life. I've ever had it, but like already I'mstarting to gravitate towards the coaching like way more than thepractice of it now a yeah which is cool for sure. What do you call it? I was just goingto say I was always thought about this. I think this is kind of in regards togetting nervous. I always thought whenever I was in the nets, I'm likefuck, a different beatin. The Nets like and like you literally were men. I E wewent to the the great tryouts an now a fucking slap and counter round, like,as you always struggled with the mediumpaces, because you had to you weren't just reacting your eyes were prettygood at the pace Bo I was always like. You were a lot better than me in thequick Bowlers, but yet you get out of the middle and it's just whatever Ilost yeah. It's all. It was always a slow ball, as they got A. I think, withthe biggest so fucking impitins me. Do it there's always a slob that go, but abas like even probably defensively, like you, probably weren't, dedicatingenough time for the first five or ten overs of just getting used to theconditions you wanted to play our shots early yeah and that can be beneficialsometimes. But when you you know, if you're good at facing quicker Bolles,you need to be batting top of the order, because that's where they're going tobe into bad the top of the order, you need to be willing to sacrifice minutesto get in and yeah we're a little bit deftly impatient, so ye as well used tofuck it judgin the board fly past her th that great actually took at LinwoodPark in the slips of bloody. What's his name, I can't read his name Indian Feller andis in the sus snatch, the other. It flew off the edge good time, so it wasa good time. We had there it as it was good, it's good yeah. I I want to playcricket again, yeah me too. It's A. I was thinking about it, but then anotherthing came out funny enough. We're just talking about this. Another thing cameup the agent I used to have for Djin. He kind of approached me and he said.Oh, you know you want to play again. I was like Oh fuck. There could be goodmoney on the side and lots of fun to you know in the coming in the in thecoming months, or I don't know, NAM tone between other plane, cricket orDjing again, but fuck begin would be so much fun, O sorry, yeah, it's o plancricket will be so much fun totally is to get here. Hey yeah she's, going to an all right, that'sgood er! We got no be in the background, were only doing this audio. So that'sall right! That's that's! I took your first steps, so I didn't yeah yeah soexciting. I it's amazing right, but...

...yeah. I think that just getting back inaround it coming back a little bit old a little bit wiser getting thatcompetitive juice is flowing again yeah it wol. I totally recommended it yeah. It's I big voice. We know who'sgoing to be next guest on the podcast in this always wanted she's Goin totake over the damn thing ma, that's exactly a yeah, but who does he play for who do ma the Guy Dj mate? I don't knowI'm saying the guy asked me he's to be my agent back in the days when I see so.He approached me saying: Hey you want to come, stop playing again. I was likeyeah, the sounds good who's. I was like yes sounds good, let these run andthings finish up, so I might stop playing again. So I don't know it's ahard choice to times you had. It said on your heart first day and then thesame like yeah. So I don't know it was. It seems hard but like the good thingis like it's like it's. The money is so good for, likethree three hours of just hanging out at a bar or something right. It's juststill good to be pass up. Like you know, you have five hundred bucks or threehundred or you like yeah. It's still good yeah, it's the fun too. It's a lotof fun so but creeter going to come back hoe to come back charge and youknow that's exactly right. So that's kind of the plan we'll see what happens.I think I'll probably end up going DJ, but maybe next year go back intocricket or something like that. Let's also hard it's hard, because so manypeople I played cricket with. I don't play cricket any more as well. Like yousaid I would say, that's hard to go somewhere. I had go somewhere near sapling. Go for great quick at this time. Westriding go up to the first great Captain Yer. Where do you neeme Mat to I? I go obviously, if you're still livingin the area, you want to play close, but I play for St Mary's at something Iwould i I the thing that I'm looking forward to about cricket is just a newenvironment and don't get me. I Love, Love the club and everything else, butjust just new experiences and new pathways and new friends and knowingthe same people. They still treat you a certain way. You can shift that veryquickly. Just go into a new situation, you know what I mean is doing or everthings in life. You know one of the things that I always say. This is allyou know. I say: Oh you never get rid of the person that you're in school,because people treat you yeah exactly the club they'll. Still there. Oh yeah,it's like, but you don't know me, you don't know the Shit. You have no idealike you know. So it's always interesting yeah yeah anyway, but thishas been a a for. I third for for yeah, that's it! This is been interestingpodcast. You know. I think I was a little lots of fun kind of a goodconversation got along it for check just catch up. He that's it. So we'llcall it grind my guse for for like Esad Yeah. Let's do it shelly the State Department, the SpitState Department and glad Isbir, Ducklin and her accomplices. So youknow I hope you have at me her last time. How do you say it? Glades BirdJulian Burdele, Barry, joken yeah, there you go glad is very deviously and,let's very trick, can you say it five times quickly. Glad is perticly. Let usbirting Bleus, Birchin cladistic, queen we filed it lad is be chocolate. Broyehave a nelder was losing it at my head. Let this has been the cover to his podcast.The clever, also known as the Glees Bird Join podcast episode, Number Twenty Nine specialguests. Now as well as premier. Let us Verona baby sweet. Do you an a rap upor sholy you? Don't the COLIBA SWEET? Let's do it right well! This has been agreat episode. Thank you for joining us. If you have made it this far, this hasbeen the CLAVERTON's podcast episode. Twenty nine we've almost out there tillthirty. So that's going to be a three big three! You thank you for listeningcheck us out on the cleverdale ite and the clever Tamis podcast on ApplePodcast, fortify and all of the above channels. Wherever you get your podcast,give us a follow. Give us a rating. A comment really would help. Wedefinitely appreciate official well that Real, have a lovely night ormorning or afternoon, stay saving, yeah or even stay safe and make sure you think twice abouteverything.

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