The Clever Dummies Podcast
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Episode 31 路 1 year ago

The CDP // Ep31: A Little Pain We Must Suffer

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In the episode of the Clever Dummies Podcast, we talk about the pain we are all suffering. A bit necessary to keep us all safe and a little we can't explain. We are no doctors, nor we are experts. We are just trying to make sense of things here, just like everyone else.

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As help start things. But ultimately, when you're secular as as venues, where is, this is some of one they're they're going to think more of. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon. Thank you guys so much for joining us. This is the clever dummies podcast. We are up to episode number thirty. One doing the dance thing. Baby, I'm lucky, and nick go big fella. I'm good, man, I'm good. It's good to be hurt. Beautiful Day to be alive. You know, I wouldn't be anywhere then this doing this podcast on a beautiful, beautiful Saturday evening. Not that I could be anywhere. It's so you know, like I said every week my if, how if you could be anywhere else in your LGA, might you'd rather be nowhere? I said, all right, if I could exactly, if I could be anywhere in my Lga, I would be at villain reserve. Yeah, right, imagine badgine Ted Ted pay. We're recording this ment in the absolute chaos that's going on. It shout us to why the reserve at all? Of that lass death. But advice for anyone, if you go anywhere any way the reserve, make sure you've got shoes on. Okay, apart from that, it's juggle out there. You know. Oh it's an are complete anarchy. It's it's a town. You know what bit like a concitution or Sydney? Well, that's right, but I didn't. Hey, you know that beautiful cricket over that they have just readily placed in just dirt poor wayland. But if they if they actually technically that same Mary's a when he crossed that side, if they set up a coving tech covid testing center, they might get a lot of positive cases, but they'd find a Shitload of needles. Say, that's well, what you're saying is this prime location for getting covid tested? But yeah, definitely a rime lookation for the vaccine. If the jam yet. Wait, what about this? I don't know about the fire. So, but you catch these jab jabs, broke Bot ball shit good stuff, because maybe if you you want a job, I'll give it to you. Yeah, my had to follow away soup. Might we've been written in Raven. You know, we always say we do our best work pre in a prerecording of the podcast, but we certainly rolled out, rolled our sleeves up and got into it. I mean before we get going, I guess you pulled some pulled two memories out of the archives. I'd love a way for the people to be able to hear that too. I don't know, but back I think I can't remember the exact day was, but I can yeah, us, I mean so we're doing the sounds of summer. It was two thousand and sixteen. It was the nine pm slot, because I remember we had a four pm one for a while old and then we went late night. That was probably the best thing could have done for like that semester six months. We had like it was like on a Wednesday or Thursday night, right, like nothing better than to do. And it was Friday night, wasn't it? Now wasn't a Friday, because my dad used to do Friday. Definitely wasn't a Friday. Yeah, I think it was Thursday. Yeah, I'm not sure, but either way, no one from a station was listening. So would we just yeah, holding carron on and just hearing US speak and talk and you know, kind of the evolution. It sounds the same right like, because it's still us and it's not like it's not like it was completely different, but just a dynamic. I think of being on radio and having the constraints of like the time, and then obviously we were just so inexperience, like, basically, I only practice before that was the now defunct cast of couch. You know, what are the great shows? Like? I think we still doing pretty well, Bro let me I think I've got some here. So let me see. I mean what I could do? I could probably upload this and then we'll be quite, and then I we could overlay the apples. That's sick. Let's see, let's hear it. Oh, perfect, to Ellie golding had that song, that pedestal she's on now, and congratulations and let's bring it back. Fuck off, the opposite anyway. So are some cultural talkie, I forgot about all this shit. I was like, I don't know, we're talking about yeah, I know, I just like great, nice the song, don't yeah, yeah, that was about you know, and then he just routed in all my bloody fare a waves just to yeah, but nonetheless, the quote said. That's a little bit of a throwback, I guess. You know, I always say this...

...right, one of the greatest thing we did right, and this is, you know, we've been doing this before for a while now. This is we've been side. We started basically recording ourselves in one way or another since like before it became big on mainstrea became mainstream almost podcasting are really yeah, I mean podcasting and like vlogging was around then, but it's a very, very primitive in stays at the time and we started like it was, you know, you had few people's I kissing Nice Dad and those like originals doing the you know, people who are essentially made logging, like no, got guessing nice that WHO's literally but the person who made vlogging of a lot think yeah and that yeah, and then you know. So I think we started really then. I mean we've got like hours of hours of footage and recording of us just talking crap and it's just so brilliant one day. You know, yeah, needs to be hard lighted and needed do real yeah, I like that. If we go back really a long time ago, it was when Bro would have been I was probably twenty thirteen, because I think I got by driver's license around the time. But we were in your car, remember. We'd be driving home for the gym at like before we even got on radio, before we did the now defunct casting couch. Back in those days we would just yeah, who to carn on some of that footage. I know I had a sick sense of humor and I was like, you know, if I was if you know, potentially in the future, if I if I ever get a name for myself, then I'm going to get canceled for some of the things I was saying. So we would have to we would have to scroll through. I might have to just delete my facebook again. But, BRO, it's coming up to nearly ten think about it, Bros. It's but nearly nine years since we've been doing the damn thing in some form or another. Obviously. Then we did a whole bunch of random skits at the gym, the bloody form police and all this yahoo and a caron on and the now defunct Denny Marie, I think, was in one of those. And then we then we moved over to obviously radio, sort of twenty four and two thousand and fifteen and, as I said before, we started like early afternoon. I think was like two or three o'clock just Tuesday, aither or something random and like I guess a bit of context, because it's probably a fair few people that did don't know that, but like there's a station still going to this day. My Dad still doing a show. It's cut twenty years bro has been doing a show on a Friday night. So that's why our FM ninety nine point nine FM for any of our Sydney battlers out there, so we can be doing the show just at the back of our blacktown show ground. I think we did that for about three semesters, which is probably eight, eight months, and then normously had some time and then we you know, we did the now defunct casting couch. That was that's probably we probably can't bring that back. That was pretty rough, that one. That was after midnight, big crazy and then well, that was so started two thousand and twenty. So yeah, it's pretty good history of man a hundred percent. I do think there's a room for a new and improved casting coach, you know, but hey, that's a day for that's a conversation for another day, another pcast, I believe. I agree. Yeah, because the PODCAST is an entity in itself. The castings couch would facilitate like a thirty minute reactive the good thing about that sort of setup would be the ability and we could do it eventually when we start doing video with this and that sort of thing. But you know, would be talking news and current events and I'll be reacting to different stories and then facilitating that. The beautiful thing, obviously, about podcasting is you just rely solely on audio. So but a hundred percent might maybe one day we'll bring it back and you know, unlike only fans might, we won't chicken out when the ship when the going did he hear about that man that's Arfe? The banks will like my we're not going to find your used to get rid of some of the TITTI's, get rid of some of the nudity and we'll get gone. But I tell you what that is. That's just a marketing strategy for any fans that they can get the backing of the banks and from anyone out there that's not aware. Basically, only fans were wanted to go public, I believe, or they wanted greater investment so they could just continue to evolve their product. Products like browses and those sort of companies that have just fall on porn and fallow nudity. They're actually funded by banks, like, they actually have like investors and that sort of thing. So I think only fans were just trying to sway away from this. Like you know, people you've got a only fans account, of means you're doing porn, you're being nude on there. But like, I know a lot of games that have come off twitch and those and Youtube and other platforms that are actually streaming on only fans. There's a few martial arts guys that I follow that to their stuff on there. So it's been interesting. Have you followed it at all? Yeah, so the story goes. I think it's obviously their bit towards got a bit towards the IPO. I I think one of the things is major things. So I looked into it. I think they're going to still allow certain level of nudity, but I think it's probably going to take away from like you won't be just straight up on stuff like that. Yeah,...

I think that's something like that. I'm not sure exactly. I haven't read through the community guidelines at the Puddn't but I think it's something along those lines. I'm not that interested, to be honest, in the whole idea. I mean to be honest. You know, shake down Bartle me, but on me is okay with the idea of it. You know, it just kind of not being a thing because, first of all, this born up there right, so me Schadout to Borna right. Second thing is, I know this is unpopular opinion, but it's it is a very much of a quick ash grab for people, and I mean it's probably not building healthy humans. And I know a lot of these a lot of things about sex work being real jobs and stuff. You know, that's all, that's all cool and whatnot, right, but I don't think I mean it probably is. You know, I'm probably uneducated saying this, but right, I don't know that well, but I don't think, you know, taking pictures of yourself and just posting online and doing that quick ash crab does account for sex work per se. You know, I think it's look, I mean if you can make money, why not make money? Right? If I could make quick money like that, I'd probably do it to write. But at the same time I don't think that's probably sustainable or can't be good for our sister society in anyway. It just the way it seems. Yeah, so mostaftly B I think if you look at you look at a couple of examples of history, look at the Roman Empire early second century, before their fall. Bro They they sex was, as you know, it was just like a dinner. It was just like the sex and there's dinner, like even I pointed all these things have, like you know, they they've very much fabricating society. Like eighty percent of people, eventy percent of people can shume it on a semi or regular basis so that people know about it. But the fact that it isn't just so socially accepted that people talking about it everywhere. It's just it's kind of got this like hidden element to it. I think we all kind of inherently deep down know that it's a wrong and it's a bad thing, but with sort of like a guilty pleasure we all share. And I have heard really good arguments in regards to sex work and even like strippers and dancers and that sort of thing, like it's like it's a really safe way for them to make good money, and I actually agree with that and maybe that's what it should be there for potentially. But yeah, when it becomes a societal acceptance and then any women after the and men to but predominantly women, like very hygh percentage of women that coming out of high school. They're not really sure to do. They have a friend that makes easy money on only fans. I go, I'll do this for a little bit. You know, it's easy money, I get it. And then when that becomes an option, it becomes dangerous. Right. So, like it's I understand both sides of the argument, but I I just can't. You know, I can't. I can't support it, unfortunately, and that's the thing. Unfortunately, I just can't support it. It's just now it's not good for the society in yeah, in overall. You know, the thing is, and this is this is the thing, right, it is the and then this is where the whole sex work idea comes in, right, because you know, obviously, I think you know, I guess it's a service. I just like anything right. And you know, yeah, I say, people do always talk about as being the oldest professional in his like, you know, the some merit to that, right, and especially when it's a safer way. That means at least you know people, you know there's at least it's a lesser of the two evils, right being existing. Right, my only argument comes in, and this is the problem that I was talking about. It can't be healthy for society is the fact that, like you said, you know, you have a girl who comes out of high school and it's a very confusing time in our lives. You know that. I know, as guys, is a confusing time for our you know, it's a very confusing time because you know, you you're told that you have to go to university, wrack up loans and you know, every and then on instagram and people are buying Lambo Ghinis at same use at your age, and you know, fifteen year old kids are driving around in Teslas and you're like, what the fuck am I doing? And I'm failing stats, you know. So you know, sounds like that's a life of a of a eighteen year old kid who leaves school. And you know, until only six weeks ago, you were told that, you know, you had to ask Mas, can I go to the fucking toilet? And now you're, you know, navigating the world and like you know, so it's a very difficult time and now it seems like it. So those are the time that normally tend to make you you have to make some really hard choices. You have to decide who we're going to be, and all those things right and this is a time. And then you go, well, okay, well, why can I just begin that, like you know, and sends so easy for the so easy to just go down that option. I will go, well, what's wrong with people making money? There's nothing wrong with people many. I'm just saying that. You know, we fought so hard again to you know, the whole idea of women right and stuff. So now that we have equality, you know, you're gonna just turn young women in, you're going to just dick away their drive because now they're just making money and buying Gucci bags, and there's nothing wrong with that. Once again, but they could be the gold. You could be the next prime minister of Australia. But now if she ended up just having only fans are gone, maybe she's still could. But you know, I sure do think,...

...and I know this whenever I've got in a hyping job, might drive to change the word and all those things goes Down't so, you know, money is good, but it's also, like to say, you know, depends on how hard it is you get money. You know. Yeah, it needs to be closely linked to like another goal. So you might get a promotion at work but then you get extra responsibility. Then there's like all right, you know, I'm still at square one a little bit. I'm still having to work, but it's like how, you're the boss, now, do whatever you want. You know, how you're making pretty decent money. We knew someone that did only fans and like, and she was really on the low end of in regards. So like how a lot of other people do it and she, you know, she would have been clearing five to tenzero dollars a month and she was like not overly, like as popular as a lot of other people. So like the option is there, of course, but yeah, it's just the something to it that it's just there's, you know, it leads. I think it facilitates the you know, it facilitates the society that is already really struggling with identity and in mental health and and over sexualization from a young age, these sort of things. And Look, the argument could be hey, like we have porn that is just so readily available, but the fact that porn is talked behind closed doors means that is that means that it's something that isn't socially accepted, at least in a at least in it a like, you know, you're not going to go to work meeting and talk about the categories. Who looked up last night? You're wet, you're hiding what you're doing in on mean. So exactly, and what this it just it fits it in a box that it kind of needs to be in, you know what I mean? And and keep in mind, right, keep in mind. There's that right. That's why there's the saying goes, you know, people who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and people who have failed to delete the history are doomed to explain it. Right, fuck, you put that on a shirt, right, that's fucking is. I got is the right. So the fact is, like, it's like dotting your t's and crossing your eyes, mate. So good, I love, I think, to this. Fact of the matter is that you look at Porn, is right, and I'm by no mean I'm saying, you know, endorsing porn here, right, but born is a is a systematic, you know, systematic industry, right, it employs people and you know it has all this checks and measures, right, and you know obviously about this. I, who was the one of the I saw a pond star on a podcast like on a I think about them, enjure Rogans portcast. She was on and she's going about how they've got, you know, a psychologist that they talk to and all these things. Right. So, yeah, and I've obviously I know there's been rumors about points being a really horrible industry for young women to work in and all that. I bet it's probably true. But charge now, yeah, now you've got an industry which is not mediated by even of the smallest of the measures. So I think, you know, it's interesting. I do know that a lot of the world is moving towards that. So it be interesting how it ends up being. But, you know, for the time being I think it's it's still too early for I was still too primitive stages of that change where everything becomes UN mediated by the greater control of systematic approaches. Right where we have to in do we just lick and ritualistically, you know, find help? So, for example, if I have a job, I need to go find time to take a break and put money my super and go see a psychologist and all those things. Right, so I think so that will happen eventually, but I think at the moment I will in still too much of a primitive time for something like this through exist. And saying all that, you know, if you're still into it, go for gold. You know, we'll see what happened. Hey, fun fact, right, make Fart, make them myself while it's still there. That's exactly right. By the way, there's some big words that I said there. Impressive, huge, impressive. Right, and it's in a single sentence as well, talking about born. Right. So get this. It's a bit of a fun fact. Apart from the main cat apart from the category, so this is I'm talking about the top ranked top search websites in Australia. Right, obviously, first I'm being Google itself, right, is, yeah, followed by Google, by apart from the categories of our social media, which includes the likes of Facebook, twitter, instagram, right, and excluding excluding emails and excluding news, born is a number one category. So outside of that one, yeah, totally. Yeah, and I'll side. Outside of social media, outside of emails, outside of AB outside news, it's a top categree in Australia, which I can't remember the exact figures. See, just gettitions. Yeah, sorry, go ahead, go ahead. CBA is below below Poona wow and how many people bank the CBA? Yeah, that's so. I don't know exactly what out total population is compared to the world like country ranking. I believe we're so there's over there's around about...

...two hundred and fifteen approximately countries in the world right and Australia is somewhere in the hundreds in terms of total population. So, like you know, we're nearly half of the world in of countries has more people than we do right, like a five, twenty six me and whatever we are now. But we rank seventh in total porn hub usage time in searchers. So we've got over a hundred countries ahead of us in terms of population and obviously there's countries there that, you know, don't have the facilities for the Internet and that sort of thing in our phones and whatever else. But we're seventh brow, you know, and we got twenty five me in Batler's though, we've got maybe half, you know, I don't know if two thirds that population. I have access to it like that's crazy in here. It's pretty crazy. How old. Think, how old were you when you like we just find sterity, do a Brit war maybe here with this podcast, but d remember how old you were when you first watch porn? I can either confirm with deny those accusation. What do you mean? I've never seen one. I have no idea what Ph it is. I didn't know. I can really talk about those thinks. I okay, I can. How old were you when you first realize that there was something wrong about it? I mean fairly young. I mean it's like it's an inherent feeling. Or know something that you don't know and it's like anything else right, and you don't have to be even told. You just know because you know that's something that you want to hide from people. Anything. Yeah, it's it's a good rule of thumb that something that you want to hide from people is tends to be something that you know. And I'm not on my privacy thing, I'm just talking about something that you generally feel like you shouldn't you don't want to tell people, shouldn't tell people is, you know, tends to be a partially not good for you or good for societial society, measures whatnot. Totally I think the when I realize. So we're fifty me by PARLITION IK, fifty four, I guess, not quite a hundred. I was getting to be crazy. Hey, I just realize I done. It's number five by population. What are they like to under me and also like to fifty. What a million I got out down there? That's got a million, like there, Huh, they're in. They're all savages out there too. Absolutely, yeah, day humans, man. So I think when I got to that age, when I realized there was something off about it, was when, like my buddies were like teasing me for not watching it a lot. was like all they were like saying. Or, you know, you only watch it once a week, but I I watch it five times a day. Like they're probably lying, but it's just like I was like, it's just I'm not putting two and two together, like like I understand, you know, as a young kids and like that's that's particularly as male. was like you're always trying to one of the boys and they'll talk about, you know, how many girlfriends he had, all these sort of things, but I remember it was like this weird red flag that one of my head. When people talk about like, Bro, you don't watch it enough, I'm like and then from there, and now I know like the negative effects it's had on my life and has on a lot of people's lives and I think the fact that it is socially accepted at such a young age, when we're not equipped. You know, bro You could argue as way more intoxicating and powerful than alcohol, and we have to wait till eighteen to start drinking and most people start consuming it on average when they're eleven or twelve, right like it's it's pretty crazy. I know. Hey, I've got another stud for you, and this is what this one's going to hurt. This one's gonna hurt. Here's a list of ten countries that stood above all, above all the race of watching porner or porn online porn consumption, ranked by country. Number one, on Pakistan. Why? Number One? How? Number two, Egypt, number three, we had now number four Iran, number five, Morocco, number six, India, number seven, Pseudi Arabia, number eight, Turkey, number nine, Philippines, number ten. Pollen, according to the recess conducted by porn medical sac a doctor, percentage of population. What's that ranking of? Now? This is just how the top countries by country. Brother, there they're like nearly old Muslim countries. Well, that's are listens. Listen, listen this, listen to this. According to the research carried out by the Portam these, six out of the ten top countries of pop by porn consumption on the planet are Muslim states. Yeah, Wow, God fucking damn right to the old adage like when you try to control people and tell people not to do something, they they have like this reason to go and do it specifically. I wow, that's insane. Share that to the boys. I start to the point the boys. All right, so this is a little bit of a fun topic, I guess, in a way. We talked about right. So, yeah, we were talking about rules and whatnot. I guess it's just kind of all the same. Have Better suitful for the paper, I think. If a right goodiful food for thought. Right. One thing that I did wanted to talk about today, and we were just briefly chatting about this before our podcast started. I mean so,...

...you know, just like just like every single episode, you know, about twenty five minutes in we get into the actual topic at hand. So, you know, for those of those of who stuck around for the actual topics, let's get into it. I so and they perhaps is easy topic and you know, it'd be really nice to just stick to the kind of the flow we were going in, but I do think this is something that I do want to talk about. So it's probably important as well. Right, as we know, and we've done multiple episodes about this, and I guess in a different stat different times of this situation evolvings, particularly with the coronavirus as we know it. Right. You know, essentially when we started this podcast was just before covid nineteen hit. Right. So in some cases I guess it was kind of more of a reason for us to keep going with the podcast because we didn't have a lot to do. But you know, another thing, the good thing doing this podcasts during this whole covid nineteen debraccle was the fact that we could document that different aspect of how this whole situation evolved, or at least how what we were feeling and thinking at the time that, you know, the situation was at. So now it seems like where it seemed like this would was like kind of like the tail end of the whole, you know, the whole pandemic debaccle, you know, and that's what it seemed like only a couple of months ago, particularly in Australia. Right. So you go, Oh, well, you know, almost seemed like things we're getting back to normal and you know, and all that cool, all that hopeful stuff. And then, you know, then came the old delta of our Delta Verre in it and, you know, kind of ruined everything and kind of throw all the plans into into a, you know, a worm hole of you know, basically darkness and lockdowns and, you know, and the and the biggest decision whether to die from the vaccine or to die from the coroner. You know. So so, with all that in mind, right, there was this there's a lot of things that, overall, be have been happening right. So let's I mean, first of all, I want to and I was just saying this to you, Laklan, as well, just before we started this world podcast. I'm going to kind of say this stance and then we can kind of get into it. Right. So this is why I stands. I think Kobe Ninety, I don't. I do think Kobe nineteen is a real disease and I think it's a dangerous disease. I think it's going to kill people. It will kill people. It has guilt people in the past. It probably kill me. But you know, the thing is. I'll it's a dangerous as but as fight one and all sorts and like it's a date. But let's let's quickly pull up worldwide. That's right. So worldwide covids. That right. So I can it's a dangerous it's a dangerous disease, right. And then followed by that, I think the vaccine works. It seems like it's reducing certain level of people's you know, spread and whatever like. I mean, I'm still yet to see certain level like a real yeah, it seems like it's working, right. I mean I can't talk a lot about it because it two hundred and fifteen million cases worldwides. A two hundred and fifteen million in forming that one for eight four point four eight me and deaths, and those obviously people who have covid nineteen on their depth certificate. Go ahead. Yeah, so it's a dangerous disease. Whether it was, whether it was, you know, some of them were accident or not. Nonetheless, they can't all be, you know, just fake. So it seems like cobe nineteen is real. So that's that's that's that's out of the way. All right. So people who deny directly saying gobe nineteen. It's not real. Are Probably a bunch of idiots and probably consume way too much of Internet. Internet Rabbit's whole, I guess said. Everit hold. Yeah, second one. They're down a rabbit hole without a ladder, like you know, that's exactly right. Did Not wait to get out, so you just got to go deep, exactly. And then, and then then there's the government. Right. So, with all that in mind, I think what has happened here is that this first of all. Then, I've said this over and over again. Lock then and tell me what you think of this one. Right, we kind of knew, for one, especially with the word becoming so free flowing and flights everywhere and, you know, people mingling, different races coming together all the time, and you know, there's nothing wrong with that. And that's what I want. Is a lot love about the world, right, that fact that I can catch a plane any well, I used to be able to catch a plane anywhere and just, you know, go anywhere. Right, that was or awesome, especially unlike living in a country like Australia, which, you know, incredibly has one of the most powerful passport that you can enter any of the most of the countries without any restrictions, which so brilliant, so beautiful, like you know, and I want to get back. It's a testing it. Yeah, it, but, but, but, but there. We did know that, with such a free flowing traffic, there was only about time. That's a small disease. That was, you know, as easily s spread as spread of would spread quick would would spread like the word. Right. So number eight,...

...no one really did anything about it. Or maybe they did. Clearly not. They didn't do a good job, right, you know. The second one was not. Let's talk about Australia. Back home, I think our government completely screwed up and they have vilified people who've tried to stand up. Two different things. They're villified, you know, they use such terminology, with psychologically backed terminology, where they made people super scared. They, you know, with the use of they use media really well to control society and divide society by using this right, and this is the biggest problem. I think government is gaining a very, very high level political benefitble, not government, I should say. I should say the political political parties or the political stance are playing a really are very expensive game at the expense of its people to make certain points I think that's very dangerous game that we're playing now. But I think a hundred percent under cent variety realize wrapped up before you going down a really good point. Say That last part again, I was just thinking about, I think, something that I think the cover, I think the problem is with this whole covid nineteen in the vaccine and whatnot, right, is that it's all being used as a weapon, as a weapon to to gain benefit for the political stance points and, you know, at the expense of its own people, whether it be, you know, whether it doesn't matter whether your stance is left leaning or right leaning. Right, it's it's really really dividing people and realifying certain people and, you know, not taking into consideration, into dualistic stories and experiences and really discounting them all and, you know, and using one black and blanket rules over the over the whole society, and just kind of, you know, going, going with it and you know, you got so I think, and it's at this is happening at the expense of, you know, our nation, our people. So I think that's really really poor form on the behalf of the decision makers that we, the people, have put in place. Yeah, most definitely, and that's the that's what I was getting. So I can't remember. It would yesterday or the day before our premier, Gladdie. I still struggle with that. Last same barrish glad it's very tically, very particularly and there we go. So glady was on there in and she was talking about like the the vaccination rate, that and this is just an example of where I think it's shifted from what it began as as let's brace for this thing, like we actually don't know what's going on. We've seen Brazil, you know, this time last year, when we'll still really early in the same we see in Brazil within these countries really struggle with it. So let's play the conservative game. Let's not try to overrun our healthcare system. And I'm like, all right, I'm actually down for that. It freaking sucks and this thing is mutating and it's moving around and we don't know where it came from and we don't know where I came from. We don't know why it's spreading so quickly. But Hey, let's get on top of this thing. There's be proactive. It's lockdown and we'll sort of play by hand. Two weeks of flatten the curve. Blah, Blah Blah. It's actually a good concept in theory because like all right, after two weeks we'll see how we go. So on Thursday I heard her say, you know, they were talking about the seventy percent number they want to hit and it seems like eighty percent vaccinations is where they really want to be at. And she mentioned that she wanted to see this is statewide. Obviously because she's our premiere, she wants to see eighty percent of our population have at least one vaccine. And it wasn't like, okay, we feel that you guys are going to be safe enough now after eighty percent and we can start to reopen, we can start to ease restrictions. No, so after this eighty percent we will have the confidence in our population that you're going to go ahead and get the second vaccine. So it's like, okay, obviously if we get both vaccines we're better protected. But backtrack that for a second. So at eighty percent it's not about you guys being protected and we being able to take care of you, it's we have faith that you are going to get this sack second vaccine at any percent and like, I understand. That's strategy and everything else, but ultimately you're you're predicating your decisions and your lockdowns off what we're servicing you. When it's eighty percent, then we're going to have faith that we can give you guys back some of the rights and we've taken away. And that was just a massive red flag and hopefully I kind of explain what I was what I picked up on there, but it was just really weally worded and it's obviously the strategy they're going ahead about and the way they're the dialog that's going on in but you know, in between, behind closed doors and you know these people, don't you know they can't take care of themselves. We've got to be proactive and we've got to do it for them. At eighty percent, we have the confidence that you're going to get your second vaccine...

...and it's like, I understand and like, like you know, it's probably a better idea that most of us get the vaccine, but at the end of the day, you don't have the power, or you shouldn't. Turn that you do have the power. You don't. You shouldn't have the power to be able to make those decisions. Outside of you know what you're in the position you're in because you are elected, you're ultimately as a leader, as a politician, and from local to state to federal level, you're in that position to service the people and, you know, be a mouthpiece for the greater people. It's not the other way around. Like this is not communist China, this is not socialist and people start throwing out these words and you're you're a you're a nut job and you're a conspiracy theorist and you know, just listen to what they're saying. It's like, I understand and look, they're probably they're probably trying to do the right thing by all of us, but it's human nature. Once you give people, once you give entities, enough power, it's very hard to get that back and if we don't learn from history, we're just going to repeat it. And it's as simple as that. This is not crazy talk, this is not just what is this? This is not just nonsense. This is dead set truth. You can find it throughout all of human history. And we think because we live in the twenty century and we've got computers and we've got mobile phones at we're different by the human race is still the human race of the end the day. We're still primal beings. We still have sex drives, we still have the need for community, we still struggle in isolation, you know what I mean. Like the one reason why people died at something such a young age. It wasn't just medicine, you know, it was the fact that they lived very closely together and once people started dying and they lost their communities, people started dying. So that's that's kind of a little bit of another rabbit hole, but it's just the it's just the the division that's being created by the dialog that's going on. And then, obviously we can from their are go into the realms of businesses forcing their employees and customers to be vaccinated or show a passport. You know the word vaccine, passport. Twelve months ago, what a scared most people and most people would not have been down for it. Twelve months later, a little bit of social conditioning, you know, bro If you ask me, I believe that the government saw people in Sydney protesting and wanted to punish those people by extending lockdowns. That's just my opinion. I might be entirely wrong. Hey, let's look at the numbers. The numbers are going up. That's why lockdowns are still here. Let's do a little basic math equation and figure out why the numbers are going up the way they are, which you did before for me, very coincidently, just a city amount going up and then, once a little bit of people start acting a little bit, they start following our orders. Okay, you know, you can go out with your friends for an hour, you can have a picnic with vaccinated people. Guys, what are we doing here? Like, what the fuck is going on? Anyway, it is what it is, but it's just it's tough, men, it's tough and like, I don't I don't read. I try not to go down the rabbit holes. I try to go into the history books, like. So the rabbit holes I try to go into is the history bookcase. It's listening to people who are expertise on, you know, Germany, World War Two, expertise on the Roman Empire, experts on, you know, the the referendum that occurred in the fifteen sixteen century in England, where master vision occurred in the Greek Empire that fell, when Egypt and those sort of things like. That's where I'm going I'm not going towards old j Larry Down the road. You know what I mean. So I'm trying to get critical about this and I've been on board for a long time, but it's getting hostage now and I understand that we need to be conservatives with this thing because this thing is dangerous. But you can only have one or two things. You can ever have security or you can have your freedom. You can't have both, and you know I want freedom of other security. It is what it is. So I don't know. You're on you, by the way, might just quickly. That happens the best of us. Right, it does. So five details. So I was just saying. Right. So I'm very analytical, right, I like I like to look at numbers and like friends and like what's happening. And you know, I've got like I've got excel sheets, like kind of freaking, you know, de dealing my meals and how I feel. Like I'm really like that's how I think, and I explain this before, like my way of thinking is like a lot more in direct format and because I guess that's how I view the word right, it's probably probably fucked up at some level, and I've got some sort of a mental generational trauma that or mental trauma that makes me do it. But I am an analytic, right, analytic cold person. And then, and then, you don't have to go far in history books. Just listen to what the experts who are in Australia, who are helping the government make this decisions are what are they saying outside of the narrative that the government is saying right, or...

...the all these leaders are saying right? It's quite interesting. I was listening to someone actually on Channel Nine, I believe it was, just talk about and he would they were talk about this whole situation. They were saying so. They said, so what's going to happen once we get to eighty percent? They said, okay, well, we don't have to. And then he said, you know, I would like to come out here and tell you the good news that was going to be all okay, and vaccine is a silver bullet that we all need. The fact of the matter is we know. We can look at the bottling or we can look at a real example. We can look at England, who's almost seventy percent, roughly seventy percent vaccinated right, and they opened up, opened up and they're getting fiftyzero cases and you know, thousands of people dying. Right, show probably reduced. If they opened up. Without the vaccine, it would have been hundreds and thousands of cases, for sure, for sure, and and hundreds and thousands of people dying. That's true, right, but we also know the vaccine is not, not the complete and so the way they got our government is making it out to be. Other government at the moment is making the vaccine. That the moment you get that. We get all the JAB eighty percent of US get double Jablet's so single job. That's it. There's no more covid and that's the problem. It's feels like the government is treating us like we're a bunch of fucking idiots. And this is the problem. Right, our our society, particular in Austral no particular, overalling worldwide. Right, let's look at our society. Right, our society holds some of the smartest people in the world to walk on this earth, not just a strong and overall right human society does. Right, who not? Who are outside the structure of the government, if that makes sense? Right? You know, we're talking about, you know, super scientists and geniuses and mathematician and all these people. They're not on average. I don't think our society is that dumb that you are trying to manipulate like you have. You trying to take us as children. We're not children. It's just a big thing and another thing that I really want to talk about. It kind of pissed me off thinking about it. I heard I heard the I think it was the minister of ambulances or something like that, and one of those people writeing was just talking about like or hospitals or something like that. I can't remember who it was. He was in today. It was just saying basically about all you know, you know you have to, you have to, you know, make sure you know our health system is working really hard and you know they are working really hard. Good on them and thank you. We're so grateful. And, to be honest, this is the hardest they would ever have to work, they would have ever had to work, and by generations like I don't think any any nurses or any doctors would have had to work this hard and in such horrible conditions before them or, you know, for for a few years, for you know, almost a hundred years. But I'm talking about before wars and all that stuff. Right, and even that, like now everything is at our doorsteps. So this is probably the toughest time they'll ever face, this generation of doctors and nurses. But in saying that, when they say that, they said so. You make sure. So it's like, hold on a minute, it's not my fault the way it seemed out to be, like it's like your fault that they're struggling and it's your fault that people are being left outside in the ambulances. It with courage guesses it's your fault. It's not. It's not. It's your fault. You failed to control a virus, control to desease. You failed the quarantine system, you failed. You failed the vaccination roll out, you failed fucking everything. You failed with the masque rule, apparently was good. It wasn't good. You failed with fucking absolutely everything. And then you have the audacity, as a government, as elected leaders that we put in place, to stand up and say that you, the people, failed us. You know that they that's the narrative. Is the real problem. It's like, fuck, what do you mean? I'm amazing point, right, yeah, right, I when I heard that, right and it was like, you know, obviously, because he's talk indoor population and as at an individual love. And I heard the I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? I like, I'm doing everything right and you cannot make a general comment like that. Say, like, you know, it's they're suffering because of you know, they're suffering because of you, you fucker, or you know that your government system. You know, that's the fact. And it is so easy. And because, and this is the thing and this is the social conditioning. I've got few friends who are working, like, you know, doctors or nurses, right, and I saw one of my nurse friends and basically social doctor friend. Right, basically, he was talking about how, you know, get vaccinated. It's been tough and what more, right, and I know for a fact, right, he's right, hundred percent. Is probably been really tough. Right, it's saying, or you know, so don't complain about getting vacinated. Is like, yeah, you're right, but the thing is you thinking that people don't want to get vaccinated or you're thinking that people want to put you in harm's way. That's what the doctors are thinking, because that's what the general narrative is being portrayed. You know, you taking a system, who was built for the system, for the people, right medical system. You're turning them against the people. So now they're thinking that are we're suffering because of the people, not realizing that it is the failure of the government themselves that we are in this position. And now we taking the one of the most care literally literally the most caring system...

...that was put into the most you know, I think it's probably one of the greatest privileges to have a medical system that supports every illness, you know, often for free. Right, because pretty unless you're have health ensure all that stuff, right, but generally term speaking, for free. They'll take care of you if you're dying, rather you know. So it's so incredible. And they take that to turn that against you, as I'm talking about, being a government using these things to weaponize it. So how could a manys health minister, whatever they are right to or whatever the person who was that was strong ambulance, to stand up and say that, if you care for those people, you'll go get vaccine? Like no, no, you getting this entirely wrong. Yes, we do care for this is already implied. You're the one who is fucking all this, like, you know, you're so I think that's interesting how all these things are getting turned against each other. And at first we were really proud of like, you know, the whole idea of frontline workers, right, and that was such a beautiful idea of like supporting them. But now I realize that that idea was also is now being used as weaponized. Is wept being weaponized, and now that's being used against if you're a friend line worker, you're a victim and be your enemy. Number one is the population who are not frontline workers, which is insane to think about that. My Dad's are essentially, if you defined, you know, my dad's like doing whatever thing, deliveries and stuff. He goes into front light work, right. So I'm not against my dad like you know means. So it does not make sense. The way. And you know, my friends are doctors, are my friends, and nurses. I'm I love them to tell like, not because the doctors, just in general. But now the narrative is that the general population is against the friend line workers. So so it's really interesting and how that's all those terms that they played as terms of endearments and now being weaponized. And now also look at how, you know, anti vaxes. Right, it's such a such a bizarre term that cause, you know, it probably anti vaxes was probably a joke from before it was it was a legitimate thing of people, you know, didn't want to vaccine their vaccinate get their kids vaccinated with like all the you know, the keys vaccines that you get when you're a child, you know, and those are probably a bunch of idiots, right. But now we're talking about population, we're talking about people. Anyone who talks about he is there a chance that this vaccine, anyone who asks a question about the vaccine is instantly labeled as antivaccer, despite the fact that our own government, our own premiers, you know premier of Queensland, stood up and said she will not give the vaccine and acidsenic a vaccine to its people because, you know, she doesn't want people to die. That's what she said. There's there's a recording of it, so anyone can look it up, right. And then if I said that, I get instantly labeled as a antivaccer. And the thing is this. So I did get the vaccine because I do think the vaccines work. But if I ask the question, you instantly antivaccer. So I think this crazy, crazy, like I mean, more I talk about I just realize how fucked up all this shit is. Yeah, and that's it began. Like it began as a way. The government saw that there was a very strong percentage of people and a few ways they did the first one being like just polling. I remember last year on facebook there were government sponsored and just big brand sponsored poles that you would say all the time, you know, if a vaccine became available, would he get it? And there was often times when, each all the results, a lot of people just said No. Well, they said, if you had to get it, what he gets? Like no, I don't really want to be for so they knew very early that, you know, people were going to need some convincing to get the job done. Obviously, the the the tracking APP as well. I think only about four percent of the population got that one or five percent or something. So they will that. It's like I could go to go hack b some get in India. Yeah, and and plus people were like all right, this is a little bit, this is this, this smells, you know, if it smells like they can looks like a rabbit and it fucking hops like a rabbit. It's probably rabbit. It just something about it was a bit if you's like, all right, you know, I understand this might be a way to you know, contract cases, but I don't really want to have an APP seven on and people just didn't want even obviously we have the right and we should always have the right, to just say no to those sort of things. So in conjunction with the media, and the media certainly exist outside of the government, but they're very closely linked together when when they need to be, when there's a new story or there's a narrative that needs to be pushed, they joined that one in the end. The big one that really irritated me and I understood the polarization of the the VACs in any vacts and just everything else, and I just knew that was going to happen eventually and it's sort of something as a society we kind of have to figure out and have better dialog with people, and I need to have better dialog even personally, with with people on the opposite end or the same ed whatever else. But the the word essential in your remember the non essential and the central this and essential...

...that you go to. You go to supermarkets now and there's half the aisles are locked up because those items in there and not essential. Like it's just absolute, absolute social conditioning. That the highest order. Anyone who puts food on their table, anyone who's earning a living for their family or themselves, is essential, and so you can say essential in regards to our society will cease to exist if these people don't work. Hey, I get it, they deserve first priority. They should be getting the vaccination first, they should be getting benefits or whatever else, assistance, everything else. But you for you to just tell people they can't operate their businesses, they can't earn a living for their family and like, Hey, we live in a beautiful country where we can get weekly payments from the government because we have enough money and we also have a small enough population, and like we're really thankful and grateful for that. But the amount of people that are, you know, the amount of people that that isn't helping a lot, a lot of people that's just barely paying rent or paying mortgages or paying the water bill. Like it's just, it's just, it is crazy that that people were forced to cease business after an extended period. Design and obviously the the measures they brought in, like limiting the amount of people in closed you know, qr codes, the amount of people in, you know, in venues that were indoors, masks, all this sort of thing we know can actually help. Societies that implemented these sort of things they were able to alleviate the tension of covid and so these are all great, but to just lock people down, it's just flat out in human and the fact that people aren't seeing that anymore, and I understand how people are more supportive or more understanding it than others, and I think we're all entitled to run separate opinion. But at the end of the day, locking people down against their will, not allowing people out at the house of more than now aren't going to get fined a lot. And there was. There was people who went on a hike and they got they had to call the police because they got lost on a hike and then they got they got saved and they got fine eight thousand dollars for leaving more than five kilometers from their house. That's that's just bullshit, tearranny. It is what it is. You can call it whatever. It is old. It needs to be done, because this virus is dangerous. Bro, if fiftys under the population is falling down, if twenty if grow, if five or ten percent of the population are dropping dead in the streets because of this thing, we might need to bring these draconious, which is just very intense, measures in. And the truth is, if this thing gets dangerous enough like that, people are going to stay the F home, because people, myself included, an absolute pussies. I don't want to die, so I will stay home if if things going to knock people over. But the fact that these sort of things are just being forced and then not just being forced on people, but people are dubbing their neighbors in and doing those all sort of things. Bro, if you don't be a national lown, that's yeah, that's exactly right. It's exactly what. If you want to be an ass clown and you want to go over to a you know you're in the middle of a hot spot and you want to go to someone's house and spread the virus, or you're a dummy, but I think you should have the right to be a dumb ass. You know what I mean? Well, so this is this is a thing right, and this is where this is where the arguments becomes. And so this is why you can't have a serious conversation with anyone. Is because the way the government twisted and conditioned as socially that we go AH, no, no, someone's going to die, right, which is hundred percent true. But I just remember something. You know, the Commissioner of a New South Wales or whatever, the right. Have you heard him talk? is a complete fucking pig right and yeah, no fucking remorse for him. He stands no remorse from his staid. He gets up there, right he goes. You know, all these measures would do and there, you know, I do not apologize. What the fuck do you mean? You don't apologize? You know, it's like, hold the fuck on, Bro, like you know. You once again, this is the problem, the wording, the using. I do not apologize. Well, first a that sentence wasn't even necessary, like you know, if you didn't see, if you didn't use that sentence, it would have been all good. But yet the fucking audacity to use a sentence saying I do not apologize. That will come down hard. Now, motherfucker. You too. Why are you just say you know we're going to have to defen the restriction. It's going to be really tough and you have you better, but you go, we're sorry in advance, but this is going to be a change. Is the whole conversation. Just instead of saying I do not apologize, it just makes it like, you know, it is turning. That's exactly what it is, and that's the problem. And now, and this is the problem, because no one is looking at these things and go okay, well, no, that's what you was no, idear, fucking just mean that. Why would you for and say that? He said that every fucking single press conference. I do not apologize for a fucking motherfucker. Fuck off. Gope you better apologize, because we fucking pay out your wages. Like. That's the fact that the matter, like you know, and this is this is where it gets really we start fighting among themselves as people, because if I, if I start questioning something, or you know, I know someone's going to listen to like ten percent of this podcast and be like no, no, no, Lo, we will care about the people. I fucking...

...get it, like you know, I care about people and all that stuff. Right. The problem is the government is using this so tactic, fly tactfully it is just putting these systems in place, and this is this maybe the issue. Right. So think about think about couple of years ago people were so worried about privacy. You remember when big privacy changes came around? Do you remember that Locklan about three years ago? Yeah, when a lot of it, it's got found out our selling data, and I think so huge privacy rules came around. Like, you know, everyone had to have this like a preview on their website where you said, you know, accept as a person. You know, if you go on any website, they'll ask you you understand that we're tracking cookies and all that stuff. Right. So that came out, right, and that was a few months ago, and I sorry if you got three years ago and that came out and then everyone was at the time, everyone was so against, you know. So so everyone's life was so probably everyone appreciated their privacy so much. Now let's look at let's look at what we're doing now, right. So we're where the time, you know, where will we go? We have to check in and all that stuff, right, you know, you son sat those government is essentially have a life feed of whatever you're doing, which all is all end well because I know that's necessary to track the virus. But the my question is, is there a chance this or a lesser version of this is going to start stick around after this whole this pandemic is gone? You know, or well, you know most simple answers. You Go. Well, not, this is not the time to worry about that, because we got bigger things to worry about, you know. You know, we got things like fucking staying alive to worry about. That's very true. But seriously, is there a chance, is there a small chance, that these things would stick around? And you know, and if they stick around, what would be the impact on society for those and you know, how much will the government people to track all these things? And you know, not talk about the police right there. They've increase all these fines to you know, you breed, you get a fivezero fine and you know, you check a shit, you get sixteenzero fine and all these things. Right. So what's going to happen to all these fines and all this tracking, right, once all this shit's ends? Right, you go, well, are they just going to instantly snap their fingers and just roll it all back? There will won't be anymore. You know, the government won't be getting a live feed on where the fuck I am. You know, I won't get fine for checking it. I won't get fine six thousand dollar for checking a shit, you know. Is that how it's going to be? And that's a real question. You know, did you slip just checking? You know. So those are legitimate questions to see what would happen. Sorry, Madd if you can keep the ball rolling, I'm just having a reconnect my headphones. So I just don't want your voice coming over on the MIC. I See, I sec all R so basically, okay, okay, so, yeah, that's that's all I was saying. Right. So, essentially, all these systems that we put into place, just to sum it up, you know, you know, you've got the government is getting a life feed or what we're doing. Essentially, you know, we go to the toilet, we have to check in and all this stuff, right. You know, three years ago, like I was said, you know, it was, it was. It was so tabooed that people are tracking your tracking your shit, where you doing online. But now forget about online. fucking you know, you have to you have to sign into the fucking toilet, you know. And and dare I say and, dare I say, it's becoming so normalized. And I was just doing this to Lachlin, right, and I was just in my room and I was about to go to walk to get some water, right, and I instinctively picked up the mask and I was about to put it on. And so the thing is about humans is would just adapt to everything and and you know, and what would happen on as make all day and people wearing masks at the beach now want around anyone. I just walking on the beach with masks and I'm like mad, mad, you know, you're honest. When at first happened down in cost center, right sell was having a diary, like no word ever, like they had a diary, right, that they had that this their covid mask on. They didn't even pull the mass down. They just slipped the smoke under the bus and then put it back out of the air. Was Cor yeah, I like, but this this is bat shit world. A but my, it's just craziness. It is just craziness. The the question is, and this is my question. Look, then, tell me what you think. Well, these rules, so soon as this Scorageh it ends everything else, will they just snap away in a second. Yeah, so the like, and I still believe. Yes, it probably will, just like anything. You know, when when eleven happens, there were certain restricts that were implanted on planes and those sort of things. So society will never totally be the same. You definitely hope and I do believe that it'll return back to a certain sense of normality. I don't know about these qr codes and I know about...

...these other things. It just depends on government legislation, like how many of these things move and are implelanted to come back and that sort of thing. Obviously, if, if the vaccination thing goes ahead and a few years down the road you're still not able to get into places because you're not vaccinated, that's honestly really interesting and I just can't foresee. I don't know what's going to happen in that regard. But we have to always be we have to always be cautious of people in power, wherever it's, whoever it's our boss has or whether it's our parents, where it's our friends family who have a certain level of responsibility and power over people, or it's our government. We have to always be cautiously optimistic in regards to different changes that are happening and at the end of the day, if you're if you're you know, if you're not allowing people to leave five kilometers from their house, of course I'm worried that it's not going to go back. You know what I mean. So I actually, I honestly can't answer it, like I hope it doesn't, but I've got no I've got just from what's happened over the last twelve months and what's been happening for a long time. I don't have any confidence in our in our government, barely whatsoever. So I don't have any confidence that they're going to once they get this power, they're going to give it back or whatever else. Or maybe we go back to normal for a few months and then bloody fucking Juliette or you know, Tango, like these letters start coming out and they start stricting people all again. You know, I mean, it's only married a time because if people are vaccinated in this virus picks up again and people getting hurt and injured and dying and there's more cases. You kind of got to think, all right, you know, the sort of the safety net for the safety net for lockdowns have been vaccinations. Once people have vaccinated, it's kind of hurt. What's it called her community? Heard immunity in the community, I should say. And then we sort of just try a best in on men. We could limit big GAFF rings, we can sort of limit these quite unquote super spread events and maybe that will come back together. But I just feel like there's a certain level of there's a certain level of instability that won't ever really go away, at least for a long period of time. Will always be worried or thinking that, hey, when she's going to come back, what's going to happen? So I think, I mean you don't have to go very far. Just look at them, for and for our so m seven and seven was put into place and had tolls and it was put into place saying that you know it will hey, it's going to be around for a couple of months and you know, we're just going to recoup the money that, you know, we spend on it and that's it. Thirteen fifteen years later down the track, they're still fucking collecting hundred millions and billions of dollars of that fucking damn route. And then you go and so it's the fact that matter's that you just got to look at these things, previous behavior of how these things work. A look at right now they're talking about selling and for off the West connects or west connect off to a private things. That means it's already getting told and so already of income streams. It's gonna not go to the government anymore, it's going to go to, you know, a private, private company, and so so that's that's fucking scary. And you go, how are all these things that no one brokes about? Because Weird, you know, what actually happens? We're too and too busy finding the left leaning and the right leaning war that are people, because I don't think people are left leaning a right leaning like you were saying. You know, it's I think it's the it's a great divide that comes from above that ends up being fucking, you know, fucking us all up. Yeah, for that's what I Inter one group or that. Yeah, one group another. And it is easier for them to do that, because if they don't do that, it's harder to harder to you know, the thing is, this is the whole this is kind of like a for argument. You know, people say Oh, I would like you know how you know in a society where, you know, people want to Che pick their own, you know, pronouns and stuff. Right. The the fact of the matter is this is the same reason why the government or all these authority figures or Authoritian is a dislikes that manner, right, and that's why you'll find like a nation of like what's the what's the world, where there's no rules? This name for it like a Damn, God, Damn, I forgot what it's called. Essentially, you know, when you limitar society where tends to be less rules, and you know you. So I know there's a word. God, Damn, there's a pretty good genite. Or is it a you? You, you, you, phernism or something like that. You could you, you que be tagg right, take new out of no, no, I say it's like you start with you. It starts with you, and yet that and like it's like I think it's drives on the word euphoric, but it's something along those line. Anyway. That's besides the point, right. So if you live in a society like that, you'll find people are a lot free to choose who they are. The problem with that is you cannot categorize those people,...

...and then that means without categorization, you cannot throw brank it loop, rank blanket rules over them. Right. So this is why. And then when you go, you know, and a, because we got to hear individualistic stories and those into dualistic stories make the big narrative. The idea is the problem is when you're sitting on the top as from an authoritative figure, it's harder for you to control so many different opinions and so many different individualusic stories. So it's easier for just to label then put them into categories and let them fight among themselves. I think that's easier for a governming body or hands of example, example of China. There's just one fucking opinion. So that's why it's easy for them to, you know, to navigate that. So I see why that exists. So as such, he is like an anarchist or an anarchy, state of society without governmental law, political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control. The saying anarchy, but I feel like there's another word for it. There's another school starts with you. It's like yeah, yeah, gone, it's something. So what I what I've assumed anarchy is that's the result of the society, you know, not having the rules, like anarchy and shoes because of this thing, but I don't really know. So take a second. But all the boys and girls are listening, mate, we're not on right now. We don't have to feel dead are we can dig around for a second or two this I'd this is one of those episodes that I really love to see what people thinking. You know I mean. I'd love to get some some comments or just get some messages what people agree or disagree with us. We from the beginning, if you've listened to our episodes and everything else, we always try to be super fair and super reasonable. And even you don't now took in, you told been so a Utopian society. There it is. That's what I was thinking, Utopia. Help me. It's really close to your for you and like utilitarian to start doing. And that's it. Yeah, so, like, yeah, so, we always try to be fair and everything else, but I think, you know, you do have to get to a point that you've got to you've got to stand up for what you believe in, you know what I mean, and obviously always be open thought opposite opinions, and I really like I've got some friends that disagree with me, or at least have different opinions, and I understand what they're saying, but I also see that they're buying into their buying into the lockdowns brow and like it's just dangerous territory, man, it's just dangerous territory. HMM, see this. I'm thinking extreme lockdowns. I'm not talking like Fifteenzero people arenas. Okay, Bro, I agreed. We should be. We shouldn't be gathering and, you know, inside Twentyzero people in, you know, Friggin Sitney arena, in bloody are in home Bush, like, I'm a totally agree with that. Like night clubs probably shouldn't be pop and off and the boys, yeah, heilding careen on the four am, the casinos with tenzero people roaming around. I get that. But man, you can't leave fight, you can't go five kilometers. And it's not like I'm going into someone's house and licking their door handles and, you know, saying I I can do whatever I want. Know, of course, you know, keep your distance. One five meters where a mask like indoors. But if I live in pen Ri, if I can't go to the beach. It's just like Bro that's that is just extremism. It's crazy. Well, that's that's what to do, Lou to telloonism is essentially to tell Leonism is we would got centralized government control and they control everything that you do. And then you know, you got let you know you've got less of opinion and for governments even throughout like World War Two and like. It's extreme examples. Sorry to cut you off, as extreme again, pulls to bring in, you know, Nazi Germany. But this didn't begin with this didn't begin with a government just forcing on the people when, like, you've got no other option. It eventuated in that stage, but actually how it began was social buying. People believing that this level of control and believing ultimately that the Jewish people needed to be eradicated. They bought in on that sort of thing. And obviously I'm not trying to parallel these things. They're very extreme and different examples, and the Holocaust is obviously different to what's going on now. But it wasn't like you've got to do this in your listening if not, you're gone. There's too many people the government and the police. They can't do it that way. There's it's sneaky man, it's turn on each other, it's get more people on our side and there will be outlies, it will be, quote, unquite any access, but when they're a minority, we can deal with him. At the moment, I believe there's still a majority of people that don't like that's what's going on. They just don't know how to voice their opinion and they're also worried that if they go to or a protest or if they make their opinion online, that they're going to get crucified. But the end of the day, guys, we have to be we have to we have to stand up for what we believe in and you know, we might get persecuted for this, that and the other, but your your your internal morals are more...

...important than your personal feelings. So try not to forget that. Your internal like important then your feelings being hurt. And you know, the fact is, I do think that you know, the idea of the idea of protest such a huge portesserve is fairly silly, especially when you're talking about a disease. Right, but it is interesting that our protested silly. But it's like that can do it. You know, I don't know. I don't want to live in society where you can't do that Shit. That's it, that's that's what I mean. I do think it's silly. But this, you know, the whole idea our society was based on, built on these protests and all that stuff. And you know, think about think about, and this is I'm going to probably get drilled for it image, but imagine, think about, you know, the protests that have happened in the past, like you know, and this is the thing is right, and I hope this is not the case. I know I've heard the idea of like you know, hopefully these are the if people are protesting right now, hopefully these are the same people will also protest when something else happens, right, you know, yeah, when they when we need to you know, you know, when we need to nudge the government for something, you know, whether we climate change action or whatever. Right, I hope there is. This is the same people show up to protest for those but, in saying that, but if the government is gonna take our ability to or what if the government totally outlaws being people protesting, right, and you know, that means what we're going to do when we need to nudge the government for the climate change action. But we go what would have happened in the past when, you know, Rosa parked and want to give up their seat and then, you know, you know, there was a huge protest and then hence started one of the biggest civil rights movements. Right, so all these things did start from like someone somewhat of a stance, right, but seems like, you know, those stands are getting shut away straight away. So what's going to happen? You know, and and that's the then comes the biggest another issue that kind of been brewing at the bottom end of the barrel, I guess, is is the idea of idea of fake news. And what is it called? Force information? Right, it's huge. So here. Okay, so I get the idea that force information is huge spread. Right, totally, I get it right. And it's so many people say that and use put old videos up and with rhinew and then you get confused and all that stuff. That makes sense. But right, so many people are getting lit like anyway. Look, they've been. There's been doctors who spoken about it. I know there was a doctor from there's a scientist who talked about how this vaccine was definitely a virus, was definitely leaked from one and she did a paper on it. Apparently a family started getting death threats and all these things and saying, people said that she was spreading, spreading false information. She wasn't singing anything with a wire. She was saying, from what it seems like, her study showed that, from what it seems like, chances are this virus, there's a strong evidence that this virus could have did she didn't say it did, she said could have come from the lab, and she got in trouble. She got a lot in trouble, apparently, like you know, she got death threats and all these things and there's people labeled her as a conspiracist. She was a she was a scientist, right. So, yeah, so does that mean from now on anyone we don't like is fake news? You know? I mean is that if we don't agree with the opinion, that's a fake, fake news. So that's kind of a problem. Yeah, it's crazy and you think no, like that's it can't happen, it's not going to happen. It does, man, it just happens in certain ways. Before we realize it. You know, it becomes part of our normality. I think what it is is she was saying that just it's evolutionary properties or its ability to adapt, and there was something on the outside of the actual virus itself, like vary from a microscopic level that they hadn't seen in biology before. It's like this is really unique and it's a stars virus that that's existed before. There was like an original covid back in the day that was not nearly as potent, but it was just like man, this thing, we just can't, can't, we can't find it or we can't find a case there, so we can't see where it started. But it's just it's constantly changing. We just can't figure out what's going on. So, you know, it's yeah, and so those questions are just yeah, she was exactly like crucified now and yes, Hey, it is. Those are sort of the big fish to fry. Hopefully one day we figure out what sort of went on, but by that stage it really doesn't matter because all the all the damage has already been done. You know, society has already been changed. So Hey, it ease what he's already doing. My on closing, if that's all right by you. Did you have any any more thoughts made? I feel like we danced around it a fair bit today and we sort of went where we needed to. Yeah, that was really good. Yeah, and I think I've got nothing anyone more, nothing to say. I mean hold it out you guys. We hope that we you appreciate the honesty, because we certainly let rip there a little bit, but I felt like there was a lot that I needed to get off to my chest and you might be in the same boat as well. Right, yeah, yeah, it's interesting time were living to see the least. Amen to that made. And I guess just before we go,...

I wanted to give a little shout out to a certain company called race. Raise is spelt Auris. So there's obviously a massive conundrum that old bloody non financial butlers like myself have always had an issue like. I've heard about the stock market, I've heard about dodgy coin and Bitcoin and Elon mosque smoke and weed on Joe Rogans podcast and stock stripping, but I didn't really know what was going on. So from your advice with Connor in our last episode, which is actually get to be released, but I'm sure by the time this one's released it'll be out. Yeah, so that that was episode thirty. You guys were speaking largely on finance from most of the episode and you were speaking about this app called rays and I started using it. It just has a really brilliant way of explaining what, the first of all, the stock market is, how they invest in the stock market, explaining overall profits are profit percentages and sort of where your money goes. So I can raise our AES. It is basically just an investment that it's really clever because it's designed where you can invest large sums or total something into the stock market. Just a really great way of saving, because you're not you don't have you have the option of not doing risky bets. Ah, I do call it. That's because bending or putting money to stock about this better. But you do have ways of not doing risk investments where you're not going to lose a whole heck of a lot of money. And they're really clever because it's a links up to your bank account, like myself, and it'll just sum up the money that you pay. So, like I pay for spotify fourteen ninety five a month. Five cents of that goes into this raised APP. I buy coffee for five dollars, fifty fifty cents of that goes into the rays APP. I've been using it for a week. I already have nearly forty just from little micro transactions and little transactions on myself. You can also go and you can create like a savings account for your child. Obviously my baby, AH, it's just over one. I'm setting up a long term savings account there that by the time he's eighteen, hopefully she's got enough money to, you know, maybe to fly to Adelaide. With the prices of she might be able to get a car or do so. Yeah, just a really cool way it shout out to raise. We just making a great product that's just easy to understand. You don't need to be a bloody black belt and account it, understand the inner workings of investment. It's just really easy and you can just link it up to your bank accounts and you can just do little top ups here and there. Ten fifteen cents. You have the option of turning that off so you can select. Hey, I've got thirty, forty cents worth of roundups that I'd like to put in or do that and you don't need to do it. It's you can take your money out straight away. There's no Yahoo W and Karen on, there's no weird terms and additions and they've got a lot of really great security measures in there. So yeah, I can't recommend it enough. I've already bought in on it and yeah, I really recommend it. So raise our AZED and they've partnered with us as well. So both unique and I have codes that, if you do sign up with them, you can use this very unique code and you can get five dollars to kick your investment off. My Code is slightly separate to Anique, so I don't want to say it out and take his your business, you know. So reach doesn't good if you want to get into it. So you'll get five bucks, you get five dollars, we get five dollars and that just going to build towards the future. It's basically just the savings account, but it's predicated around the stock market and it's really easy investments here or there. And Yeah, it's done in a way where it's not a large burden, like you're committing a lot of money here or there. You can go in a pace so great. The biggest thing is about raise, and this is what I love about them. They carry a certain level of educating you so slowly, ever so slowly, and you don't get annoyed about it, because the biggest thing is everyone hates learning and the moment you talk about you about finances or investing, you, there's a certain stigma tached to it. You going on like this is like not more for me, because I don't want to lose money and all that stuff. Right. So, you know, with the with everything rising and stuff. So this is raised very slowly, but surely educate you and you know the best. The reason I say slowly is could because that means you don't have to feel the burden of like, Oh shit, I'm taking in, you know, information of like what's index fun? What's a for one, all these things. Right, so you're just like, okay, this is how it works, and you go all of a sudden you started understanding and that's how you begin your journey. You Do, hopefully a financial freedom, financial freedom journey, you know. So, yeah, that's definitely recommended. I've been using it for roughly three and a half, four years. Did there. There after you reach I think five grand. There's like a yearly fee of like two dollars fifty or something like that. Don't quote me on it. They might have just like Flo without a bank. If you yeah, I see a certain I can tell you. I can tell you that now they their annual feel fees or their transaction fees are a lot less than CBO. So if you just so you know, wait made baby. That's it really win. So yeah, definitely gonna go. You know, and you know good and as we know, especially during this times, we learned having a...

...savings is more important than ever before. Totally and just the concept of like you buy something for ten and thirty cents and semi sense that goes it just rounded up. It's like not a large you know. That's the horst heart about saving money for a lot of people is like, okay, where am I going to take the money out? Some weeks here or there. It's little bits here or there, and then once you realize you can afford that, like you got, like I'll put a couple of dollars away and saying it, you know, saying it in front, saying it where it's going, and just a really great, easy to use APP and the Shrink Company. That's right for me. So I love it. And and and last, last but not least, is if you are still not convinced by the investment sides of it, you can treat the whole APP or the whole system as just a savings account, whichid and your best, best part about it is you can completely turn off your investment or like you can set it to like really, really conservative, and so you know, essentially you'll still get more than your general interest you get from a normal bank on your savings. What you could do easy way to save is you can set or to transfers. So weekly, let's say you get paid on Friday or like Thursday. You can set up Friday for on Friday, it takes out any bucks out of your acount. The best part about raises let's say when you transfer the money back, it does in skinny up hearing your new other account. So the benefit that means is that, let's say you're out with the friends, and let me paint a picture for you, young with your friends and you want to swipe your guide a when and you go realize, no, I have to pull money out of my savings account. And you know for you to just transfer the money and then you got money available and you spend your saving but now you have to wait, you know, at tend to tend to eight hours before the money upears or you know in some gets is twenty four hours. So then you'll be like Oh God, damn, I can't transfer money and then you end up saving more money. Yeah, so I understand. In fact it's the savings APP as much as it is, you know, an investment APP as well. So yeah, check it all out and there's no commitment to it at all. You can just sort of see what's going on. If it's not for you, it's not for you. But just having that little bit of a nugget of like hey, I'm putting a little bit of money away and I'm not really noticing whether the money is going is not big chumps. I'm not committing to a certain amount or like a bank where you've got to put certain amount of saving in per month or you get fas. There's none of that sort of thing. So yeah, absolutely love it, Broh. And Yeah, heck of a podcast episode, might we nearly ninety minutes. I hope you guys have enjoyed that. Of course, check us out on social media. We are the clever dummies podcast on facebook and instagram. If you're listening on spotify or apple podcast and any other platforms you do choose to deal very deep into our podcast. We would appreciate a follow and and and a share. Just one friend that you might know that's out there back the way. They might be working, they might be at home. Just need a little bit of time to kill, a little at just a ten or fifteen minutes of even a minute of viewing our podcast sort of just helps us get out there, helps us some more people see the show and, of course, if anything we say you disagree with or you agree with or you just have any ideas or you just want to chat, feel fair to reach out to our social media accounts, even personally myself for a nique or through clever dummies. And Yeah, will certainly love to keep the dialog going because that's really what we want to get the stage here is we're not just talking to each other and talking to our space. We want to build a community here. So yeah, absolutely love what's going on and yeah, we really appreciate you tuning in. So you want to wrap us up? For us, I think thank you for a beautiful podcast. This was really good to get all those things off the chair, off my chest, so let's keep bringing it back. Thank you for listening if you've made it this far, and on that note will leave you and love you. Check US out on the social media's on the clever time is podcast, like mychael already mentioned. And on that not good night, good morning and we hope you have a beautiful days. Stay safe, don't let the lockdowns get you to Downe. This is good fun, this podcast, episode thirty one, and he can lock going. So that not please,.

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