The Clever Dummies Podcast
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Episode 31 路 2 months ago

The CDP // Ep31: A Little Pain We Must Suffer

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In the episode of the Clever Dummies Podcast, we talk about the pain we are all suffering. A bit necessary to keep us all safe and a little we can't explain. We are no doctors, nor we are experts. We are just trying to make sense of things here, just like everyone else.

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He stop things, as were his good morning good evening goodafternoon. Thank you guys so much for joining us. This is the clever dummiespodcast. We are up to episode number thirty one doing the Danthing baby onlucky and Nika Gar, big feller, I'm good man, I'm good! It's good to behere. It's a beautiful day to be our life. You know I wouldn't be anywhere,then this doing this podcast on a beautiful beautiful Saturday evening,not that I could be anywhere so you know, like I say every week, if how, if you could be anywhere elsein your l, Ga might you'd rather be nowhere. I said by writer, if I could exactly I, if I could be anywhere in myElga, I would be at Villain, reserve, rigine, Magic Ted Ted p were recording.This met in the absolute chaos. That's going on it shout us for why thatthere's a at all of that list, he there as advice for anyone if you go anywherenear Water Reserve, make sure you've got shoes on okay. Apart from that,it's a juggle out there. You know. Oh, it's it's an or complete denarch tbit like constitution of Sydney. Well, that's right! But in hey you knowthat beautiful cricket over that they have just readily placed in just dirtport way live, but if they, if they actually technically,that sat mary as they went in cross that side if they set up a coving covedtesting center, they might get a lot of positive cases, but they'd find theshit that a needle. So that's what what you're saying is t oprime location for getting gobies, you definitely a prime location for thevaccine. I fethers get it! What about this? I don't know aboutthe fier, but he catch these JEB jabs broad, but posit that good stuff. To Imean if you, if you want a jab I'll, give it to you yeah, I might to followaway Owen, ritten and Raven. You know wealways say we do our best work pre in a pre recording of the podcast, but wecertainly rolled out rolled our sleeves up and got into it. I mean before weget going. I guess you pulled some port and memories out of the archives. Ilove a way for the people to be able to hear that too. I don't know but back. Ithink I can't remember what the exact date I was, but I can yeahs I mean so we're doing the soundof summer. It was two thousand and sixteen it was the nine pm stop,because I remember we had a four pm one for a while, and then we went latenight. That was probably the best thing cut it done for like that semester. Sixmonths we had like it was like on a Wednesday or Thursday night right likenothing better than to do, and he was Tartini. Wasn't it no. I wasn't aFriday because my dad used to do it. Friday definitely wasn't a frony. Ah, Ithink it was Thursday yeah, I'm not sure, but either way noone from thestation was listening. So we we just yeah holding carrin on and just hearingUS speak and talking. You know kind of the evolution. Itsounds the same right there because it's still us and it's not like it'snot like it- was completely different, but just a dynamic, I think, of beingon radio and having the instron of like the time and then obviously we werejust so inexperienced, like basically our only practice before that was thenow defunct castacs. You know what are the greatshows like. I think we still doing pretty well bret. Let me I think I've got some here. Solet me see I mean what I could do. I could probably Iplay this and then we'll be quiet and then I we could overlay the ANATAS.Let's see, let's hear it perfectly Goldna on Ngati and C grow some cultural talking. I forgotabout all this. I A I was like. I don't know what talking about here. I know a crines yea for the quart, my Sita's a little bitof a throwback. I guess a you know. I...

...always say this right, one of thegreatest things we did right- and this is you know- We've been doing this fora while. Now this is we've been said. We carted basically recording ourselvesin one way or another since, like before it became big on main it becamemainstring, almost podcasting, a ray H, I mean podcasting and like logging wasaround then, but it's a very, very primitive in his days at the time andwe started like it was, you know you had a few peoples like Cassini that andthose like originals doing the you know, people who essentially made logginglike now got getting. I sat who's literally, but the person who madelogging of the lot Genya, yeah and then yeah, and then you know so I think westarted really. Then I mean we've got like hours of hours of fourage and recordingof us just talking crap, and it's just so brilliant one day you know my headneeds to be a nerely I like. If we go back really along time ago, it was when Bro would have been. I was probably thousand andthirteen because I think I got my driver's license around the time, butwe were in your car. Remember we'd be driving over the gimme like for we evengot on radio before we did the now defunt casting hatch back in those as we were just yeah, hea carnot. Some of that footage. I know I had a sick sense of humor and I waslike you know if I was you know, potentially in the future. If I everget a name for myself, then I'm going to get cancelled for some of the thingsI ware saying so we would have to would have to scroll through. I mighthave to just delete my facebook again but broke it's coming up to nearly tento think about it. Brose we really nine years since we've been doing thedenting in some form or another. Obviously, then we did a whole bunch ofrandom skits at the gym, the bloody form police and all this yeah who, on aCaroon and now defiant Maria, I think, was in one of those I and then he andthen we, then we moved over to obviously radio sort of twenty four intwo thousand and fifteen and, as I said before, we started like early afternoon.I think I was like two or three o'clock just on Tuesday aero, something randomand, like I guess, a bit of context, because it's probably a fair few peoplethat I don't know that, but like there's a station still going to thisday, my dad's still doing a show. It's twenty years, Bros Been Doni, show on aFriday night. So that's where I am ninety nine point. Nine F M for any ofour Sydney battlers out there. So if people were doing the show just at theback of our black town show ground, I think we did that for about threesemesters, which is probably eight eight months and then Omos had sometime and then we you know we did the now the funkcasting couch. That was that's. Probably we probably can't bring thatback. That was pretty rough that when that was after midnight, bit crazy andthen that was I out o two thousand and twenty so yeah. It's pretty good right,he's true Mi, a hundred percent. I do think there's a room for a new andimproved casting couch. You know, but hey that's a day for that's aconversation for another day and other cast. I fly, I agree a because apodcast is an Entertynin. The castings couch would facilitate like a thirtyminute reactive. The good thing about that sort of set up would be the ability, and we could do iteventually when we start doing video with this and that sort of thing, butyou know, would be talking news and current events and not be reacting todifferent stories and then facilitating that the beautiful thing obviouslyabout podcasting is you just rely solely on audio so, but a hundredpercent mit, maybe one day, we'll bring it back, and you know I like only fans,my like chicken out when the Shit, when the going did you hear about that man,that's Rafe. The banks were like we're not going to find you out. Youjust need to get rid of some of the tidies, get rid of some of the newditty and we'll get gone. But I'll tell you all. That is that's just a marketing strategy forany fans that they can get the backing of the bags. I ran anyone out there,that's not aware. Basically, only fans were wanted to go public, I believe, orthey wanted greater investment, so they could just continue to evolve theirproduct products like brases and those sort of companies thathave just full on pawn and fallen nudity, they're actually funded bybanks like they actually have like investors, and that sort of thing, so Ithink only fans were just trying to sway away from this. Like you know, ispeople you've got an only fens account of means, you're doing poor and you'rebeing now on there, but, like I know a lot of game is that have come offtwitch in those and you tully been other platforms that are actuallystreaming on. Only fans there's a few martial art skies that I follow that tothis stuff on there. So it's been interesting. Have you followed it atall yeah? So the story goes. I think it'sobviously the bit o a Co bit to was the IPO. I I think one of the things is majorthing is so I look into it. I think they're going to still allow certain level of nudity, but I think Iprobably going to take away from, like I won'tbe just straight up on stufflike that yeah. I think that's...

...something like that. I'm not sureexactly I haven't read through the community guidelines said the Purin,but I think it's something along those lines. I'm not that interested to behonest in the whole idea, but I mean to be honest, you know Shitan part of me.Part of me is okay with the idea of you know it just kind of not being athing, because, first of all, this pont have thereright, o Ma Shatter Topona right. Second thing is: I know this is anunpopular opinion, but it it is a very much of a quick cash grab for people,and I mean it's probably not building healthy humans, and I know a lot ofthese a lot of things about sex work, being real jobs and stuff. You know,that's all, that's all cool and what not right, but I don't think I mean itprobably is you know I'm probably uneducated, saying this, but I don'tknow that well, but I don't think you know taking pictures ofyourself and just posting him online and doing that quick cash crab doesaccount for sex work per say. You know, I think it's look. I mean if you can make money, onenot make money right if I could make quick money like that, I'd probably doit to right, but at the same time I don't think that's, probablysustainable or can't be good for our SIS society inany way, just the way it seems yeah. So most, I think if you look at you, look at a couple of examples ofhistory. Look at the Roman Empire early second century before their falot. Theysex was. As you know, it was just like a dinner. It was just like this sex andthere's dinner. Like even though pointed all these thingshave, like you, know, they've very much fabricate in society like eightypercent of people, seventy percent people consuming on a semi or regularbasis, so, like people know about it, but the fact that it isn't just sosocially accepted that people are talking about it everywhere. It's justit's kind of got this like hidden element to it. I think we all kind ofinherently dip out know that it's a wrong and it's a bad thing, but withsort of like a guilty pleasure, we all share- and I have heard really goodarguments in regards to sex work and even like strippers and dances, andthat sort of thing like it's like it's a really safe way for them to make goodmoney, and I actually agree with that- and maybe that's what it should bethere for potentially but yeah when it becomes a societalacceptance and then any women after the in men to but predominantly women likevery high percentage of women, that've coming out of high school they're, notreally sure to do. They have a friend that makes easy money on on defense.Like all right I'll do this for a little bit, you know it's easy money, Iget it and then, when that becomes an option, it becomes dangerous right. Solike it's, I understand both sides of the argument, but I just can't you knowI can't I can't support it. Unfortunately, he and there's the thing.Unfortunately, I just can't support it. It's just no! It's not good for thesociety in Yeah in overall you mean the thing is, and this is this is the thingright. It is this and then this is where the whole sex work idea comes inright, because you know, obviously I think you know, I guess it's a Sois. Ijust like anything right and then you know there. I say people do always talkabout as being the oldest profession and history, like you know they somemerit to that right and especially when it's a safer way. That means at leastyou know, people. You know there's at least it's a lesser of the two evils,right it being existing right. My only argument comes in, and this is theproblem that I was talking about. It can't be healthy, for society is thefact that, like you said you know, you have a girl who comes out of highschool, it's a very confusing time in outer life, so you know that I know, asguys is a confusing time forever. You know it's a very confusing time,because you know you're told that you have to go to university rack up loansand you know every and then on Instagram er people buying Lambo Kin.Is that same as at your age? And you know, fifteen year old kids are drivingaround in test less and you're like what the fuck am I doing and I'mfailing stat you know so you know it sounds like that's a life of a of aeighteen year old kid who lives school and you know until only six weeks agoyou were told that you know you had to ask me: SCALE: Go to the fucking toiletand now you're. You know navigating the word and, like you know, so it's a verydifficult time and now it seems that it. So those are the time that normallytend to make you you have to make some really hard choices. You have to decidewho you're going to be and all those things right, and this is the time andthen you go well okay. Well, why can't? I just begin that, like you know andson, so easy for the so easy to just go down that option. I would go wellwhat's wrong with people making money, there's nothing wrong with people. ManyI'm just saying that you know we've fought so hard again to you know thewhole idea of women write and stuff. So now that we have a quality, you knowyou're Goin, to just turn young women in you're Goin to just take away theirdrive, because now they just making money and buying goosies and there'snothing wrong with that once again, but there could be the girl, she could bethe next Prime Nestor of Australia, but now she ended up just having only fence,maybe she'sstill good, but you know, i...

...sure, do think- and i know thiswhenever i've got an hyping job might drive to change the world and all thosethings goes down. So you know money is good, but it's also like the say youknow depends on how hard it is. You getmoney you know yeah. It needs to be closely linked to like another goal, soyou might get a promotion at work, but then you get extra responsibility. Thenthere's like all right. You know i'm still a square one, a little bit, i'mstill having to work, but it's like hey you're, the boss. Now do whatever youwant. You know how you making pretty decent money. We knew someone that didonly fence and like, and she was really on the low end of in regard so like how a lot of otherpeople do it and she, you know she would have been clearing five to tenthousand dollars a month and she was like not overly like as pops a lot ofother people. So like the option, is there, of course, but yeah? It's just there's somethingto it that it's just there's! You know it leads. I think it facilitates theyou know. It facilitates the society that is already really struggling withidentity and in mental health and an over sexualization from a young age.These sort of things and look, the argument could be hey like we have pawnthat is just so readily available, but the fact that pawn is talked behindclosed doors means. That is. That means that it's something that isn't sociallyaccepted, at least in a at least in a a like. You know, you're not going to goto work matti and talk about the categories. You look up last nitialsyou're, hiding what you're doing in no, i mean so exactly and what all this itjust it fits it in a box that it kind of needs to be in. You know what i meanand keep in mind right, keep in mind this that right. That's why there's thesaying goes. You know, people who fail to learn from history are doomed torepeat, and people who fail to elate the history are doomed to explain itright like put that on the shirt right.That's fucking is i really right's like doting your teas and crossing your eyesmight so good. I think this fact of the measure is that you look at pon is right and i'm by no mean i'msaying you know endorsing born here right but bone is a is a systematic. You know systematic industry right, itemploys people, and you know it has all this checks and mergers right, and youknow obviously this who was the one of the i saw a pontar on a podcast like ona i think it might have been joe rogans port cast. She was on and she's longabout how ye they've got. You know psychologist that they talk to and allthese things right so and i obviously i know- there's been rumors about one'sbeing a really horrible industry for young women to work in and all that ibet is probably true but charge now yeah now you've got an industry whichis not mediated by even of the smallest of the measures. So i think you knowit's interesting. I do know that a lot of the word is going towards that, soit interesting how it ends up being, but you know for the time being. Ithink it's it's still too early for we still to primitive stages of thatchange, where everything becomes unmediated by the greater control ofsystematic approaches right, but we have to indugio s, lik and vitalistically. You know find help. So, for example, if i have a job i need to gofind time to take a break and put money in my super and go see a psychologistand all those things right. So i think so that will happen eventually, but ithink at the moment i won through too much of a primitive time for somethinglike this to obsist and saying all that you know if you're still into it go forgold, you know we'll see what happens. Hey fun fact right make fine to makethe most of it. While it's still there, that's exactly it by the way. There'ssome big words that i said there impressive, huge, impressive right andis in a single sentence as well talking about bone right. So get this. It's abeautiful fun fact, apart from the main care, apart from the character. So thisis i'm talking about the top rank top search websites in australia, butobviously, first one being google itself right is yea, followed by googleby apart from the categories of social media, which includes lives of facebook,twitter, instagram, right and excluding excluding emails and excluding news.Pone is a number one category so outside that one yeah totally yeahand i tie outside of social media outside of emails outside of about sidenews. It's a top dedere and australia, which i can't remember the exactfigures in a just colation, yeah. Sorry go ahead, go ahead, spa is below belowand how many people bank, the cebah, that's to know exactly what out totalpopulation is compared to the worldlike...

...country, ranking, i believe, we're sothere's overt there's around about two hundred and fifteen. Approximatelycountries in the world right and australia is somewhere in the hundredsin terms of total population. So, like you know, we're nearly half of theworld of countries has more people than we do right, like in twenty five,twenty six men, whatever we are now, but we rank seventh in total, pawn hubusage, time and searches. So we've got over a hundred countries ahead of us interms of population and obviously there's countries there that you knowdon't have the facilities for the internet and that sort of thing in ourphones and whatever else, but we're seventh bro. You know and we've gottwenty five men battlers. You know, we've got maybe a half, you know idon't know i th two thirds of that population andhave access to it. Like that's crazy, mit, it's pretty crazy. How old were you when you like? We justfucking ster e, do a brick wall, maybe here with this podcast, but rememberhow old you were when you first watch porn, i can either confirm withdenied those acquisition. What do you mean i've never seen one. I have noidea what ponies i didn't. I can barely talk about. I think echo old, were youwhen you first realized that there was something wrong about it. I mean fairlyyoung. I mean it's like it's an inherent feeling or no something that youdoesn't know, and it's like anything else right and you don't have to be antold. You just know, because you know that's something that you want to hidefrom people anything yeah. It's a good rule of thumb that something that youwant to hide from people is tends to be something that you know and i'm not a aprivacy thing. I'm just talking about something that you generally feel likeyou shouldn't, you don't want to tell people shouldn't tell people is a youknow tends to be a partially, not good for you or good for societal societymeasures or what not totally, i think the when i realize it so we're fit me butput liston ik fifty for gas, so i'm quite a hundred is getting a big e easy.I just realize it's number five by population. What are they like? Twohundred men, or so i to fifty you would a milita's. I then they're all savagesout there to absolutely damons man. So i think when i got to that age, when irealized there was something off about it was when, like my buddies, were liketeasing me for not watching it a lot of like all they were like saying, or youknow, you only watch it once a week broad. I watch it five times a day likethey're, probably lying, but it's just like. I was like i just i'm not puttingtwo and two together like like. I understand you know as a young kids andlike that's. That's particularly is male was like you're, always trying toone of the boys and don't talk about. You know how many girlfriends he hadall these sort of things, but i remember there was like this weird redflag that one of my head when people are talking about like a bro, you don'twatch it enough and i'm like a d and then from there and now i know like thenegative effects it's had on my life and has on a lot of people's lives, andi think the fact that is socially accepted at such a young age. Whenwe're not equipped, you know, bro, you could argue as way more intoxicatingand powerful than alcohol and we have to wait till eighteen to start drinkingand most people start consuming it on average, when they're, eleven or twelveright, like it's pretty crazy, i know hey, i've got another start for you,and this is got this one's going to hurt. Even this one's gonna hurt here'sa list of ten countries that stood above all above all the race ofwatching pone or pon online phone conception, ranked by country numberone. Pakistan. Why number one? How number two egypt number threevietnam number? Four iran number five moroco number six india number sevensaudi arabia number eight turkey number nine philippines number, ten pollenaccording to the recess conducted by pon, medicals, sel, doctor percentageof population. What's that ranking of now? This is just how the top countryis by country both they, like nearly all move muslim countries. Well, that'sa listenest! Listen! Listen to this! Listen to this! According to theresearch carried by the pont mt six out of the ten top countries, a pot by pondconception on the planet are muslim states. Yeah wow got fucking damn right to the old adagelike when he try to control people and tell people not to do something they.They have like this reason to go and do it specifically a wow, that's in they share that to the boyseyes, not after the o, all right. So this is a little bit of afun topic. I guess in a way we talked about right, so yeah we were talking about rules and whatnot? I guess it's just kind of all the same, a better food or for the people,a tulfo for thought right. One thing that i did wanted to t talk about andwe which is briefly chatting about this...

...before our podcast started- i mean soyou know just like just like every single episode. Youknow about twenty five minutes in we get into the actual topic at hand, soyou know for those of those of who and stuck a out for the actual topics. So,let's get into it right so and i perhaps this is an easy topic and youknow it'd be really nice to just stick to the kind of the flow we were goingin, but i do think this is something that i do want to talk about. So it'sprobably important as well right as we know, and we've done multiple episodesabout this, and i guess in a different at different times of this situation,evolving particular with the corona virus. As we know it right, you know.Essentially, when we started this podcast was just before covenient hitright. So in some cases i guess it was kind of more of a reason for us to keepgoing with the podcast, because we didn't have a lot to do. But you knowanother thing: the good thing doing this podcast during this whole covinieten tobacco was the fact that we could document the different aspect of howthis whole situation evolved or at least how what we were feeling andthinking at the time that you know the situation was that so now it seems like where it seemed like thiswould have was like kind of like the tail end of the whole. You know the whole pandemic debacle,you know and that's what it seemed like only a couple of months ago,particularly in australia right. So you go oh well, you know you almost seemblack things we're getting back to normal and you know and all that co allthat hopeful stuff and then you know then came the old delta delta verin andyou know kind of ruined everything and in no kind of threw all the plans intointo a you know a worm hole of you know basically darkness and lock once andyou know, and the and the biggest decision, whether to die from thevaccine or to die from the coroner you know. So so, with all that in mind right, therewas there's a lot of things that overall be have been happening right.So let i mean first of all i want to- and i was just saying this to you lokonas well just before we started this work portas, i'm going to kind of saythis stance and then we can kind of get into it right. So this is why i stands.I think, covin. Ninety i don't. I do think over. Nineteen is a real diseaseand i think it's a dangerous disease. Anything is going to kill people. Iwill co. People has guilt, be in the past. It probably kill me, but you know the thing is ill: it's adam business, but as papers with the lungs and all sorts and like it a let'squickly. Pull up. Word word stats right, so well, one covets that right so okan,it's a dangerous. It's a dangerous disease right and then follow by that.I think the vaccine wax it seems like it's a reducing certain level ofpeople's. You know spread in whatever, like i mean, i'm still yet to seecertain like a real yeah. It seems like it's working right. I mean i can't woka lot about it. Beset hundred and fifteen million cases word wise, a twohundred and fifteen million in fuming. That point four. Eight four point: foureight million deaths and those are obviously people who havecoved nineteen on the death certificate go ahead yeah. So it's a dangerous disease,whether it was if whether it was you know, some of them were accident or notnone the less. They can't all be. You know just fixed, so it seems like gobi.Nineteen is real. So that's! That's that's that's out of the way, all right,so people who deny directly saying o nineteen is not real, a probably abunch of idiots and probably consume way too much of internet internet rabbits hall. I guess that abit old yeah, second one they're down a rabbit. I without a ladder like youknow, that's exactly it there's no way to get out, so you just got to godeeper, exactly and then and then then there'sthe government right. So with all that in mind, i think what has happened hereis that this first of all, then i've said this so we're in the word again.Look an e. Tell me what you think of this one right. We kind of knew for one, especially with a wordbecoming so free flowing and flights everywhere, and you know peoplemingling different races coming together all the time- and you knowthere's nothing on with that. That's what i want this is my love about theword right. The fact that i can catch a play in any well, i used to be able tocatch a plane anywhere and just you know, go anywhere right. That was soawesome, especially in like living in a country like australia, which you knowincredibly, has one of the most powerful passport that you can enterany of the most of the countries without any restrictions which is sobrilliant, so beautiful like you know, and i want to get back- it's atestament yeah it, but but but but the we did know that with such a freeflowing traffic, there was only about time. That's a small disease that was,you know, as easilys spread, a spread...

...would spread. Quick would would spreadlike the word right, so number e. No one really did anything about it, ormaybe they did clearly know they didn't do a good job right. You know thesecond one was now. Let's talk about australia back home, i think ourgovernment completely screwed up and they have vilified people. Who've triedto stand up to different things. They're vilified, you know they usesuch terminology with psychologically backed terminology where they madepeople super scared. They you know with the use of they use media really wellto control society and divide society. By using this right-and this is the biggest problem, i think government is gaining a very,very high love of political benefit, ball, not government. I should say ishould say the political political parties or the political stance areplaying a really a very expensive game at the expense of its people. To make certain points, i think that'sa very dangerous game that we're playing now. What do you think hundernhundred a centuried realize you wrapped up before you're going down a reallygood point say that last part again, i was justthinking about. I think something that is, i think, the cover. I think theproblem is, with this whole covin, nineteen in the vaccine, and what notright is that it's all being used as a weapon as a weapon to to gain benefitfor the political stance points, and you know at the expense of its ownpeople, whether it be you know by it, doesn't matter whether your stance isleft, leaning or right lying right. It's really really dividing people andvillifying certain people- and you know not taking into consideration in dugastic stories and experiences and really discounting them all, and you know, andusing one black and blanket rules over over the whole society and just kind ofyou know going going with it, and you know you got so i think, and it's andthis is happening at the expense of you- know our nation, our people. So i thinkthat's really really perform on the behalf of the decision makers that wewe, the people have put in place, yeah most definitely, and that's thethat's what i was getting so i can't remember it was yesterday orthe day before our premier glady. I still strugglewith that. Last name. Veris glad it's very tile very ticular there we go soglad he was on there and- and she was talking about like the vaccination rate,that- and this is just an example of where i think it's shifted from what it began as a let's brace forthis thing, like we actually don't know. What's going on, we've seen brazil. Youknow this time last year when we are still really early in the same as inbrazil, was in these countries really struggle with it. So, let's play theconservative again: let's not try to overrun our health care system and i'mlike all right, i'm actually down for that. It freaking sucks and this thingis mutating and it's moving around and we don't know where it came from and wedon't know where it came from. We don't know why it's spreading so quickly, buthey, let's get on top of this thing, there's be proactive, that's lockdownand we'll sort of play by hand two weeks to flighting a curve, blah blahblah. It's actually a good concept in theory, because, like all right aftertwo weeks, we'll see how we go so on thursday, i heard her say you know theywere talking about the seventy percent number they want to hit and it seemslike eighty percent vaccinations is where they really want to be at, andshe mentioned that she wanted to see. This is state wide, obviously, becauseshe is our premier, she wants to see. Eighty percent of our population haveat least one vaccine, and it wasn't like okay. We feel that you guys aregoing to be safe enough now after eighty percent and we can start toreopen with concert to these restrictions. No, so after this eightypercent, we will have the confidence in our population that you're going to goahead and get the second vaccine. So it's like. Okay, obviously, if weget both vaccines were better reece, but back track that for a second, so ateighty percent, it's not about you guys being predicted and we being able totake care of you. It's we have faith that you are going to get this secondsecond vaccine and andy percent and, like i understand that's strategy andeverything else, but ultimately you're you're, predicating your decisions andyour lockdowns off what we're servicing you when it's eighty percent, then we'regoing to have faith that we can give you guys back some of the rights andwe've taken away, and that was just a massive red flag. And hopefully i kindof explain what i was, what i picked up on there, but it was just really weallyworded and it's obviously the strategy they're going ahead about and the waythere the dialogue that's going on in. But you know in between behind closeddoors- and you know these people, don't you know they can't take care ofthemselves. We've got to be proactive and we've got to do it for them ateighty percent. We have the confidence...

...that you're going to get your secondvaccine, and it's like i understand and like like you know, it'sprobably better idea that most of us get the vaccine, but at the end of theday you don't have the power or you shouldn't turns that you do have thepower you don't you shouldn't, have the power to be able to make thosedecisions outside of you know, you're in the position you'rein, because you are elected your ultimately as a leader as a politicianfrom local to state to federal level you're in that position to service thepeople and you know, be a mouthpiece for the greater people. It's not theother way around like this is not communist china. This is not socialistand people start throwing out these words and your you're a you're, a nutjob and you're. A conspiracy theorist- and you know just listen to whatthey're saying it's like. I understand and look they're, probably they're,probably trying to do the right thing by all of us, but it's human nature.Once you give people once you give entities enough power, it's very hardto get that back and if we don't learn from history, we're just going torepeat it, and it's as simple as that. This is not crazy talk. This is notjust what is this. You know this is not just nonsense. This is dead set truth.You can find it throughout all of human history and we think, because we livein the twentieth century and we've got computers and we've got mobile. Phonesthat went different by the human race is still the human race. In the in theday were still primal beings we still have sex drives. We still have the needfor community, we still struggle in isolation. You know what i mean likethere's. One reason why people should die at soe such a young age of wantjust medicine. You know it was the fact that they lived very closely togetherand once people started dying, they lost their communities, people starteddying, so that's you know, that's kind of a little bit of another rabbit hole,but it's just that it's just the the division that's beencreated by the dialogue that's going on and then obviously we can from there gointo the realms of businesses, forcing their employes andcustomers to be vaccinated or show a passport. You know the word vaccinepassport twelve months ago. What has scared mostpeople and most people would not have been down for it. Twelve months later,a little bit of social conditioning. You know bro. If you ask me, i believe that the government sawpeople in sydney protesting and wanted to punish those people by extendinglockdowns. That's just my opinion. I might be entirely wrong. Hey, let'slook at the numbers, the numbers are going up. That's why lockdowns arestill here, let's till a little basic math equation and figure out why thenumbers are going up the way they are, which you did before for me very convincingly, just to city mountgoing up and then once a little bit of people start acting a little bit. Theystart following our orders. Okay, you know you can go out with your friendsfor an hour. You can have a picnic with vaccinated people cus. What are wedoing here like what the fuck is going on anyway? It is what it is, but it'sjust it's tough men, it's tough and, like i don't i don't read, i try not togo down the rabbit holes. I try to go into the history books like so therabbit holes i try to go into. Is the history book it's listening to peoplewho are expertise on you know germany, world war, two expertise onthe roman empire. Experts on you know the the referendum that occurred in thefifteenth sixteenth century in england, where mass division occurred and thegreek empire that fell and egypt and those sort of things like that's. Wherei'm going, i'm not going towards old five to larry down the road, you knowwhat i mean, so i'm trying to get critical about this and i've been onboard for a long time, but it's getting a hostage now, and i understand that weneed to be conservatives with this thing, because this thing is dangerous,but you can only have one or two things you can ever have security or you canhave your freedom. You can't have both and you know i want freedom of versecurity. It is what it is. So i don't know you're on mute by the way might justquickly. That happens. The best of us right,that's so fun details, so i was just saying right, so i'm veryanalytical right. I like i like to look at numbers and like friends and likewhat's happening, and you know i've got like i've got excel sheets like kind offreaking g. You know detailing my meals and how i feel like i'm really like.That's how i think- and i explained this before like my way of thinking- islike a lot more in dara format and because i guess that's how i view theword right. It's probably probably fucked up at some level and i've gotsome sort of a mental generational trauma that or mental trauma like makesme do it, but i am an analytic right and leti cool person and then and thenyou don't have to go fire in history books, just listen to what the expertswho are in australia who are helping the government make those decisions.What are they saying outside of the...

...narrative that the government is sayingright or the all these leaders are saying right? It's quite interesting. Iwas listening to someone actually on channel nine. I believe it was justtalk about and he would they would talk about this whole situation. They weresaying so they said so, what's going to happen once we get to eighty percent,they said okay. Well, we don't have to and then he said you know. I would liketo come out here and tell you the good news that it was going to be all okayand to vaccine. Is the sillar bullet that we all need? The fact of thematter? Is we don't? We can look at the bardling or we can look at a realexample. We can look at england who is almost seventy percent, roughly seventypercent vaccinated right and they opened up opened up and they're gettingfifty sand cases, and you know thousands of people dying right, showprobably reduced if they opened up without the vaccine it would ave, bringhundreds and thousands of gayes for your official and and hundreds andthousands of people dying. That's true right, but we also know the vaccine isnot not the complete and the way the or government is making it out to beovercome. I met at the moment is making the vaccine that the moment you getthat we get all the job. Eighty percent of us get double jab, let so single jab.That's it there's no more covet and that's the problem. It's feels like thegovernment is treating us like we're a bunch of fucking idiots, and this isthe problem right. Our our society particular in austral, not particularor rolling, word wide right. Let's look at our society right. Our society holdssome of the smartest people in the world to walk on this earth, not just astrain overall right human society toes right who know who are outside thestructure of the government. If that makes sense right, you know we'retalking about. You know super scientists and geniuses andmathematician, and all these people they're not on average. I don't thinkour society is that dumb, that you are trying to manipulate like you, you'retrying to take us as children, we're not children, and it's just a big thingand another thing that i really want to talk about. It kind of pleased me offthinking about it. I heard i heard the i think it was the minister ofambulances or something like that and one of those people writing was justtalking about like or hospitals or something like that. I can't rememberwho it was. I was in today and was just saying basically about all you know. You know you have to you have to you know make you know. Our healthsystem is working really hard, and you know they are working really hard goodon them and thank you we're so grateful and to be honest, this is the hardestthey would ever have to work. They would have ever had to work and bygenerations like, i don't think any any nurses or any doctors would have had towork this hard and in such horrible conditions before them, or you know forfor a few years of, for you know almost a hundred years, i'm talking aboutbefore wars and all that stuff right, and even that, like now, everything isthat our doorstep. So this is probably the toughest time they'll ever facethis generation of taters and nurses, but in saying that when they say thatthey said so, you make sure so it's like hold on a minute. It's not myfault. The way it seemed to be like it's, like your fault, that they'restruggling and it's your fault that people are being left outside in theambulances with college cases. It's your fault, it's not it's! Not it'syour fault! You failed to control a virus. Contro disease. You failed thecanting system, you failed, you failed the vaccination rule out. You feelfucking everything you failed with a masque rule apparently was good. Itwasn't good. You failed with fucking, absolutely everything, and then youhave the audacity as a government as elective lead as a wee put in place tostand up and say that you, the people failed us. You know that that's thenarrative is the real problem. It's like fuck. What do you mean as a man inpit bra, yeah t? I, when i heard that right and it was like you know-obviously, because he's tracking a population and as a individual love-and i hear that i'm like what the fuck is that mean i, like i'm, doingeverything right and you cannot make a general comment like that say like now:it's they're suffering because of you know they're suffering because of you,you fucker, or you know the your government system. You know that's afact, and it is so easy and because- and this is the thing- and this is thesocial conditioning- i've got a few friends who are working like you know:doctors or nurses right- and i saw one of my nurse friends and basically so a doctor friend right. Basically, hewas talking about how you know get vaccinated, it's been tough and whatnot right- and i know for a fact right- he's right hundred percent is probablybeen really. Tough right is saying. Oh, you know so don't complain aboutgetting vaccinate is like yeah you're right, but the thing is you're thinkingthat people don't want to get vaccinated or you're thinking thatpeople want to put you in harms way. That's what the doctors are thinking,because that's what the general narrative is being protrayed. You knowyou're taking a system who was built for the system for the people right,medical system, you're turning them against the people. So now they arethinking that all were suffering because of the people, not realizingthat it is the failure of the government themselves that we are inthis position n and now we're taking...

...the one of the most care littly,literally the most caring system that was put in to the most. You know. Ithink it's probably one of the greatest privileges to have a medical systemthat supports every illness. You know often for free right because petty,unless you have health and show all that stuff right, but generally timspeaking for free they'll, take care of you if you're dying right, you know. Soit's so incredible and i take that to tend that against you. So as i'mtalking about being government using these things to weaponize it, so howcould our money help mines or whatever they are right to or whatever theperson who was ostroem blance, to stand up and say that if you care for thosepeople, you go get vaccine like no, you getting this entirely wrong. Yes, we docare for it. This is already implied, but you're, the one who is fucking. Allthis, like you, know, you're. So i think that's interesting how all thesethings are getting turned against each other and at first we were really proudof, like you know the whole idea of front line workers right, and that wassuch a beautiful idea of like supporting them, but now i realize thatthat idea was also is not being used as weaponize is what being repoised andnow that's being used against. If you're a friend line worker you're avictim and your enemy number one is the population who or not frontline markers,which is insane to think about that my dad's are essentially, if you define b,you know my dad's like doing whatever thing, deliveries and stuff. He goes infront like work right, so i'm not against. My dad, like you know mean soit does not make sense the way- and you know my friends- are doctors and myfriends and nurses i m- i love them to the like, not because the doctors justin general, but now the narrative is that the general population is againstthe friend line workers. So so it's really interesting and how that's allthose terms that they played as terms of endearment and nor beingrepoised, and i also look at how you know anti vax is right. It's such asuch a bizarre term that cause you know it. Probably anti access was probably ajoke from before it was. It was a legitimate thing of people. You knowdidn't want a vaccine deck vaccinate, get their kids vaccinated with, likeall the you know, the kids vaccines say you getwhen you're a child. You know, and those are probably a bunch of idiotsright, but now we're talking about population, we're talking about people.Anyone who talks about hey. Is there a chance that this vaccine? Anyone whoasks the question about the vaccine is intery labeled as anti baxo, despitethe fact that our own government of our own premiers, you know premier of coins,land, stood up and said she will not give the vaccine and acidence vaccineto its people, because you know she doesn't want people to die. That's whatshe said. There's a there's, a recording office or anyone can look itup right and then, if i said that i get instantly labeled as a ant baker. Andthe thing is this: what i did get the vaccine, because i do think thevaccines work. But if i ask the question you intently anti vaces sothat i think is crazy. Crazy, like i mean more, i talkabout. I just realized how fucked up all this shit is yeah and that's. It began like it beganas a way the government saw that there was a very strong percentage of people in a few ways.They did it the first one being like just polling. I remember last year onfacebook there were government, ponto and just big brand sponsored polls thatyou would see all the time you know if a vaccine became available, would heget it, and there was often times when you toll theresults. A lot of people just said no well, they said. If you had to get it,what he get is like. No, i don't really want to be for so they knew very earlythat you know people are going to need some convincing to get the job done.Obviously, the the the tracking app as well, i think, onlyabout four percent of the population got that one or five percent orsomething so they they well t like. I c go to go a hack by some gedding, india,yeah and and pass people like all right. This is a little bit. This is this.This smells, you know if it smells like. Vicon looks like a rabbit and itfucking hops like a rabbit. It's probably rabbit and just somethingabout it was a biddy. If he is like all right, you know. I understand thismight be a way o. You know contract cases, but i don't really want to havean at twenty four seven on a d and people just didn't want it, andobviously we have the right and we should always have the right to justsay no to those sort of things. So in conjunction with the media andthe media certainly exist outside of the government, but they're veryclosely linked together when they need to be when there's a new story orthere's a narrative that needs to be pushed. They joined that one and a bigone that really irritated me, and i understood the polarization of the thevaccine, any vaccine or just everything else, and i just knew that was going tohappen eventually and it's sort of something as a sit society. We kind ofhave to figure out and have better dialogue with people, and i need tohave better dialogue, even personally with with with people on the oppositeend or the same men, whatever else a...

...but the the world essential in you knowthe the non essential and the central tis and essential that you go to you goto supermarkets now and there's half the isles are locked up because thoseitems in there are not essential, like it's just absolute, absolute socialconditioning, to the highest order. Anyone who puts food on their table,anyone who's earning a living for their family or themselves is essential, andso you can say essential in regards to our society will cease to exist. Ifthese people don't work, hey i get it. They deserve first priority. Theyshould be getting the vaccination first, they should be getting benefits orwhatever else, assistance everything else. But you, if you only just tellpeople they can't operate their businesses, they can't learn it livingfor their family and, like hey, we live in a beautiful country where we can getweekly payments from the government because we have enough money and wealso have a small enough population and, like we're, really thankful gratefulfor that. But the amount of people that are you know the amount of people thatthat isn't helping a lot a lot of people, that's just barely paying rentor paying mortgages or paying the water bill like it's just it's just. It iscrazy that that people were forced to ceasebusiness after an extended period is on and obviously the the measures theybrought in, like limiting the amount of people enclosed. You know the work codes, the amount ofpeople in in you know in venues that were indoors mass. All these sort ofthings that we know can actually help societies that implemented these sort of things.They were able to alleviate the tension of covin, and so these are all great,but to just lock people there, it's just flat out inhumane and the factthat people aren't seeing that anymore, and i understand how people are moresupportive or more understanding it than others, and i think, we're allentitled to an ever opinion, but at the end of they locking people down againsttheir will, not allowing people out at their housein all in now and you're going to get fined a lot and there was those peoplewho went on a hike and they got they had to call the police because they gotlost on a high and then they got they got saved and they got fine eightsandolas for leaving more than five kilometers from their house. That'sthat's just bullshit tyranny. It is what it is. You can call it whatever itis, or it needs to be done, because this virus is dangerous bro if fifesend of the population is falling down, if twenty right, if five or ten percentof the population of dropping dead in the streets. Because of this thing, wemight need to bring these draconis, which is just very intense measures in,and the truth is if this thing gets dangerous enough, like that people aregoing to stay the f home, because people myself included at absolutepurses, i don't want to die so i will stay home in this thing going to knockpeople over, but the fact that these sort of things have just been forcedand then not just being forced on people, but people are dobbing theirneighbors in and doing this or sort of things bright. If you don't be anational way on that yeah, that's exactly right! It's exactly right! Ifyou want to be an ass clan and you want to go over to a you know, you're in themiddle of a hot sport ing, you want to go to son's house and spread the virus.While you are dumb, but i think you should have the right to be a dumb mask.You know what i mean well it's. This is. This is a thing right, and this iswhere this is where the arguments becomes, and so this is why you can'thave a serious conversation with any one is because the way the governmenttwisted and conditioned us socially that we go. Oh, were no, no someone'sgoing to die right, which is a hundred percent true, but i just remembersomething: you know the commissioner of new south wells or whatever i have youheard him talk, is a complete fucking, pig right and no yeah, no fucking remorse. For him. Hestands no remote from his the gets up there right. He goes, you know allthese measures are there and there you know i do not apologize. What the fuck.Do you mean you do not apologize. You know it's like hold the fuck on bro.Like you know you once again, this is the problem. The word ing they're usingi do not apologize well. First, a a that sentence wasn't even necessary.Like you know, if you didn't, if you didn't use that sentence, it would havebeen all good, but you had the fuck an audacity to use a sentence saying i donot apologize. That will come down hard, no motherfucker, you do. Why are youjust say you know we're going to have to doffen the restriction? It's goingto be really tough and you have you better put you go with sorry in advance,but this is going to be changes. The whole conversation just instead ofsaying i do not apologize. It just makes it like. You know it is turning,that's exactly what it is and that's the problem and now- and this is theproblem, because no one is looking at these things and go okay. Well, no!That's! When was no. I din fucking just mean that. Why would you fucking saythat he said that every fucking single bread conference i dot apologize for afucking, motherfucker fuck up, go up you better apologize because we fuckingpay your wages. Like that's the fact of the matter like you know- and this is this is where it getsreally. We start fighting among of self as people, because if i startquestioning something or you know, i know someone's going to listen to liketen percent of this podcast and be like...

...o. Like will you care about the peoplei fucking get it like. You know i care about people and all that stuff right.The problem is the government is using this so tactic. Plateful y is justputting these systems in place, and this is this may be the issue right, sothink about think about a couple years ago, people were so worried aboutprivacy. Remember when big privacy changes came around. Do you ember thatlocate about three years ago yeah when a lot is got found out or selling dataand a thing so huge privacy rules came around like you know, everyone had tohave this like preview on their website, where you said you know accept as aperson. You know if you go on any website, they'll ask you, youunderstand that we're tracking cookies and all that stuff right. So that came out right, and that was afew months ago and i sorry few cup three years ago and that came out andthen everyone was at the time everyone was so against. You know so soeveryone's like so probably everyone appreciated their privacy. So much now,let's look at. Let's look at what we're doing now right so we're where the timeyou know where will we go? We have the checking and all that stuff right. Youknow you so me sat. Those government is essentially have a live, feed orwhatever you're doing which all is all and well because iknow that's necessary to tract of viris. But my question is: is there a chancethis or a lesser version of this is going to start stick around after thishole? This pandemic is gone. You know or well. You know most simple answers.You go well not. This is not the time to worry about that, because we've gotbigger things to worry about. You know, you know we got things like fuckingstaying alive. To worry about that's very true, but seriously. Is there achance? Is there a small chance that these things would stick around and you know, and if they stick around what would be the impact on societyphotos? And you know how much will the government be able to track all thesethings? And you know not talk about the police right. There, they've increaseall these vines through. You know you breathe, you got a five thousand dollarfine and you know you check a shit. You got sixteen thousand dollar fine andall these things right. So, what's going to happen to all thesefines and all this tracking right once all this shit ends right, you gowell. Are they just going to instantly snap their fingers and just roll it allback? There won't be any more. You know the government won't be getting a livefeed on where the fuck i am you know i won't get fine for checking it. I won'tget fine six sand dollar for changing a shit. You know is that how it's goingto be and that's a real question, you know, do you ousley just checking his you know, so thoseare legitimate questions to see what would happen? Sorry might if you can keep the ballrolling, i'm just having a reconnect my headphones. I just don't want yourvoice coming over on the mice, i see c a e okay, okay, so yeah, that'sthat's all i was saying right. So essentially all these systems that wereputting into place just to sum it up. You know, you know you got, thegovernment is getting a live feed or what we're doing. Essentially, you knowwe go to the toiler. We have to check in and all this stuff right. You knowthree years ago, like i was said, you know it was it was. It was so taboothat people were tracking you tracking, your shit. Were you doing online, butnow forget about online fucking. You know you have to you, have to sign intothe fucking toilet, you know and and there i stay and there i say it'sbecoming so normalized, and i was just doing this to lockland right and i wasjust in my room and i was bout to go to work to get some water right and iinstinctively picked up the mask and i was about to put it on, and so thething is about. Humans is well just adapt to everything and, and you know,and what would happen- osmotar and people wearing mass at the beach they weren't around anyone, no justwalking on the beach with mask and i'm like m. You know, you're honest when it firsthappened down in cost central right. Someone was having a dowry like no wordever like they had a diry right. They do they had that this their ovid maskon. They didn't even pull the mass down. They just so slid the smoke under themask and then put it back on in the air was come. Yet i like this. This is abad shit world i, but it's just craziness is just craziness. The the question is- and this is myquestion- look and tell me what you think: will these rules so soon as theyscorcht ends everything else? Will they just snap away in a second yeah so the like, and i still believe?Yes, it probably will just like anything. You know when, when nineeleven happened, there were certain restricts that reim preplanned onplanes and those sort of things, so society will never totally be the same.You definitely hope, and i do believe that it'll return back to a certainsense of normality.

I don't know about these qr codes and idon't know about these other things. It just depends on government legislationlike how many of these things move in a imple mente to come back and that sortof thing. Obviously, if, if the vaccination thing goes eyed in a fewyears down the road you're still not able to get into places because you'renot vaccinated, that's honestly really interesting, and i just can't foresee idon't know what's going to happen in that regard, but we have to always be.We have to always be cautious of people in power where, if it, whoever it's ourbosses or whether it's our parents, whether it's our friends family whohave a certain level of responsibility and power over people or it's ourgovernment, we have to always be cautiously optimistic in regards to different changes that are happeningand at the end of the day, if, if you're, if you're, you know, if you'renot allowing people to leave five colomes from their house, of course,i'm worried that it's not going to go back. You know what i mean, so iactually i don't honestly can't answer it like. I hope it doesn't, but i'vegot no. I've got just from what's happened over the last twelve monthsand what's been happening for a long time. I don't have any confidence inour in our government barely whatsoever, so i don't have any confidence thatthey're going to once i get this power they're going to give it back orwhatever else, or maybe we go back to normal for a few months and then bloodyfucking, juliet tor, you know tango, like these letters start coming out andthey start stricking people all again the enonomy. It's only a matter of time, because ifpeople were vaccinated and this virus picks up again and people getting hurtand injured and dying and there's more cases, you kind of got to think allright. You know the the sort of the safety net for the safety net for lockdowns have beenvaccinations. Once people are vaccinated, it's kind of. What's it called down ho immunity hadheard immediately in the community, i should say, and then we sort of justtry our best. You know i mean we could limit big gatherings. We can sort oflimit these quite unquote super sprite events and maybe that'll come back toget, but i just feel like there's a certain level of there's. A certain level of instabilitythat won't ever really go away, at least for a long period of time willalways be worried or thinking that hey wens is going to come back, what'sgoing to happen west. So i think i mean you don't have to go very far. Justlook at m four and for om seven m seven was put into place and i had tolls andit was punting to place saying that you know it hey it's going to be around fora couple of months, and you know we just going to recoup the money that youknow we spend on it and that's it. Thirteen fifteen years later down thetrack. They still fucking collecting hundreds millions and billions ofdollars of that fucking, damn rude, and then you go ahead, and so it's the factof the mates like you just got to look at these things, previous behavior, ofhow these things work. I look at right now. They're talking about selling andfor off the west connect or west connect off to a private things. Thatmeans that the it's already getting told and sadio income strains it'sgoing to not go to the government anymore. It's going to go to you, knowa private private company, and so so that's that's fucking scary and you go.How are all these things that no one brokes about? Because we you know whatactually happens, we're too and too busy? Finding the left, leaning and theriting war that the people? Because i don't think people are life, leaning, aright leeing like you were saying you know it's. I think it's the it's agreat divide that comes from above that ends up being fucking. You know fuckingus well up yeah for that's what i into one groupor one group another, and it is easier for them to do that, because if theydon't do that, it's harder to harder to you know the thing is: this is the whole. Thisis kind of like a for argument. You know people say oh, i would like youknow how you know in a society where you know people want to pick their own,you know pronouns and stuff right. The i, the fact of the matter is this isthe same reason why the government, or all these authority figures orauthories dislike that manner. Right and that's why you'll find like a nation of like? What's the what's theword, where there's no rules, this name for it like a dam gotham, i forgot what it's called.Essentially, you know when you learn lina society. Where tends to be lessrules, and you know you so yeah, i know there's a word got then the putita is that you, you you perim or something like that.You could you you que bit a a new n o o. I it's like you startswith. You starts with you on yeah that and like it's like. I think it's driveson the word euphoric, but it's something along those line and that'sbeside the point right. So if you live in a society like that, you'll findpeoplew a e, a lot free to choose who...

...they are. The problem with that is, youcannot categorize those people, and then that means without categorization.You can not throw branker blanket rules over them right. So this is why andthen, when you go, you know and a because weaker or her into italicstories and those intuitus ic stories make the big narrative the ida is. Theproblem is when you're sitting on the top is it from an authoritative figure,it's harder for you to control, so many different opinions, and so manydifferent individuals, six stories, so it's easier for just to label, then putthem into categories and let them fight among themselves. I think that's easierfor a governing body or hence example, example of china. There's just onefucking opinion. So that's why it's easy for them to. You know to navigate that. So i see why thatexists. So i such is like an anarchist or ananarchy state of society without government of law, political and socialdisorder due to the absence of governmental control o the same anarky,but i feel like there's another word for it there's another. I starts withyou, it's like yeah, but yeah corn, it's something! So what what i'veassumed anarchy is that's the result of the society. You know not having the rules likeanarchy and shoes because of this thing, but i don't really know so. Take a second like all the boys andgirls are listening, my we're not on radio, we now a a field day here we candig around for a second or two. I i this is one of those episodes that ireally love to see what people thinking you know what i mean. I love to getsome some comments or just get some messages. What people agree or disagreewith us we from the beginning, if you'velistened to our episodes and everything else, we always try to be super fairand super reasonable, and even you don a popinot in society, utopian society,eritis! That's what i was thinking you topiarian really close to your fore andlike utilitarian, o you to doing it. That's it yeah! So like yeah, so we always try to befair and everything else, but i think you know you do have to get to a pointthat you've got to. You got to stand up for what you believe in you know what imean and obviously always be open to opposite opinions, and i really likei've got some friends that disagree with me or at least have differentopinions, and i understand what they're saying, but i also see that they'rebuying into their buying into the lockdown brow and like it's justdangerous territory, man, it's just dangerous, teritory, hmm see this istalk extreme lockdowns, i'm not talking like fifteen hosen people, renes, okay,bro! I agree we should be. We shouldn't be gathering, and you know, insidetwenty thousand people in you know, freaking sidney arena in bloody in homebush, like i totally agree withthat, like night clubs probably shouldn't be popping off and the boysyar holding karen on de four am the cat casinos with ten send people rovingaround. I get that, but man, you can't leave fight, you can't go fivekilometers and it's not like i'm going into science house and locking theirdoor handles and you know saying hey. I can do whatever i want now. Of courseyou know, keep your distance one point. Five meters wear a mask like indoors,but if i live in penri i can't go to the beach it's just like bro. That'sthat is just extreme. Is man it's crazy? Well, that's that's. What do do talianism is essentially to tell unism is well. Is you go sentais governmentcontrol and they control everything that you do and then you know you'vegot. You know. You've got less of opinion in a ol government eventhroughout, like bold war to and like his extreme examples. Sorry to cut youoff ice extremely game pose to bring in you know not in germany, but thisdidn't begin with this didn't begin with government, justforcing other people when, like you've, got no or option in eventuated in thatstate, but actually how it began was social by and people, believing thatthis level of control or believing, ultimately, that the jewish peopleneeded to be eradicated. They bought in on that sort of thing,and obviously i'm not trying to parasol these things that very extreme anddifferent examples, and the holocaust is obviously different to what's goingon now, but it wasn't like you've got to do this in your listening. If notyou're gone, there's too many people, the government and the police, theycan't do it that way. The it's sneaky man it to turn on each other. It's getmore people on our side and there will be out lies. It will be quite unquoteany vaces, but when they're the minority we can deal with him at themoment. I believe there's still a majority of people that don't likethat's what's going on. They just don't know how to voice their opinion andthey're also worried that if they go to a protest or if they make their opinion online, that they'regoing to get crucified, but the end of the day guys we have to be we have to.We have to stand up for what we believe in, and you know we might getpersecuted for this, that and the other,...

...but your your your internal morals aremore important than your personal feelings. So try not to forget thatyou're in turn like or in then your feelings being hurt, and the fact is. Ido think that you know the idea of the idea of protest. Such huge porteris fairly silly, especially when you're talking about a disease right, but itis interesting that our protest is silly much like that can do it. Youknow i don't know, i don't want to live in society where you can't do that shit.That's that's that's what i mean. I do think it's silly, but they you know thewhole idea. Our society was based on built on these protests and all that stuff- andyou know i think about think about- and this is i'm going to probably getdrilled for it. Imagine, but imagine, think about you know the protest thathave happened in the past. Like you know- and this is the thing is right,and i hope this is not the case. I know i've heard the idea of like you know.Hopefully these are the if people are protesting right now. Hopefully theseare the same. People will also protest when something else happens right. Youknow yeah it's when they when we need to you know you, when we need to nudgethe government for something you know whether we climate change action orwhatever right or i hope this they see the same people show up to protest forthose, but in saying that, but if the government is going to take our abilityto or what, if the government totally outlaws being people protesting right- and you know that means what we'regoing to do when we need to nice the government for the climate changeaction. What if we go? What would have happened in the past and you know, rosapark didn't want to give up their seat and then you know you know there was ahuge protest and then hence started one of the biggest civil rights movementsright. So all these things did start from like some one somewhat of a stanceright but t seems like you know, those stanes are getting shut away straightaway. So, what's going to happen, you know and and that's the then comes thebiggest another issue- that kind of been brewing at the boro end of thebarrel. I guess is the is the idea of idea of fake news and what is it called false information right and age is sookay. So i get the idea that false information is huge, spread right.Don't i get it right, and so many people say that and you put all videosup and with renew and then you get confused and all that stuff. That makessense, but right so many people are getting lived like any like there'll bethere's been doctors who spoken about it. I know there was a doctor fromthere was a scientist who talked about how this vaccine was. Definitely avirus was definitely leaked from bohan and she did a paper on it. Apparently,her family started getting death threats and all these things and sayingpeople said that she was spreading spreading false information. She wasn'tsaying anything but the wise she was saying from what it seems like herstudy short that from what it seems like jesus. Are this virus there's astrong evidence that this vice could have the she didn't say it did. Shesaid, could have come from the lab and she got in trouble. She got a lot introuble. Apparently, like you know, she got death threats and all these thingsand s, people labeled her as a conspiracy. She was a asa scientistright, so yeah, so does that mean from now? Anyone wedon't like is fake news. You know i mean is that if we don't agree with theopinion, that's a fit quick news. So that's kind of a problem. Yeah, it'scrazy and you think no like that's. It can't happen. It's not going to happen.It does mean it just happens in certain ways before you realize it. You know itbecomes part of our normality. I think what it is is she was saying that justits evolutionary properties or its ability to adapt- and there wassomething on the outside of the actual virus itself, like vary from amicroscopic level that they hadn't seen in biology before it's like this isreally unique, and it's a sars virus that that's existed before there waslike an original coved back in the day. That was not nearly as potent, but itwas just like man. This thing we just can't can't we can't find it or wecan't find a kay zero, so we can't see where it started, but it's just it'sconstantly changing. We just can't figure out. What's going on, so you know it's yeah, and so thosequestions are just yeah. She was exactly right, crucified now and yeahhey. It is those a sort of big fish to fry. Hopefully, one day we figure outwhat sort of went on, but by that state it really doesn't matter, because all the all the damage has already beendone. You know society as rory been changed, so he it is forty it on closing. If that's all right by youdid you have any any more thoughts made. I feel like we, we danced around it afair bit today and we sort of went where we needed to yeah. That was really good yeah. Ithink i've got nothing any i'm no, nothing to say i mean holder at you guys. We hope thatyou appreciate the honesty, because we certainly let rip there o the wit, buti feel like there's a lot that i needed to get off to my chest and you might bein the same vote as well rig yeah, yeah, a it's an interesting time. Welive in, to say the least, a men to...

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