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The CDP // Ep32: What Is the Meaning of Life?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome back! We are so excited you are here! In this Episode of the Clever Dummies Podcast, We are talking a little about everything and ofcorse we attempt to answer the big question: What Is the Meaning of Life?

So Join Lachlan, Terrence and Aneeqe for the fun little episode!

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All right, you guys are all legends. Thank you so much for joining us. This is episode number thirty two of the clever dummies podcast. I am lucky, as always, joined by might, the one and only the best thing had to come out of Saint Mary's since the five dollar scooter. And theyk young big fella. I'm good. I'm good, man, I'm good. It's good to be here. It's a beautiful day to be alive. Truly is a beautiful day. Tops of twenty nine degrees. You know, wouldn't be anywhere else. To be completely honest, this is the fifty fourth time. I'm actually saying that because we did have some technical difficulties today, as we always do on this podcast. So clever dummies podcasts, also known as the clever dummies podcast, with technical difficult yeah, keep your eyes or easy for a rebrand or restructure of what we're doing. But now, at the end of the day, man, you know, as I like to say, Picasso's first painting wasn't picture perfect. You know, the Mona Lisa wasn't created in a day. So it's all leaps and bounds, yes, or nose. But we do have a very, very and I mean very special guest. One of our first guests might have actually been the first guest in the infancy stage of the clever dummies podcast nearly two years ago, with terrence, our good mate, and you know, as the girls, two girls dream of him and the guys want to be him. Teren tell you we going mighty hey. Yeah, yeah, what it do? What it do? Good to be back. Thanks for having me. Boys highly request that. I will add we do get regular emails from our large client based oftentimes abuse in non constructive criticisms involved, but a common theme is when is that Asian fell the coming back? So it is so good to talk to you, brother, and obviously you know when we can talk about the pandemic along all day long. We probably will because, you know, what else is there to talk about? But you've recently moved out on your own at a big call. I mean you're nearly twenty five. You are twenty five years of age and obviously make the big step. How's that sort of process been? What maybe a month in now or so? Yeah, it's been pretty good. I mean, yeah, I mean I'm twenty five but identifies twenty two. So yeah, doesn't know. That's right, and I and I identify as vaccinated. So it's now, but all joke decide. It's been pretty good, you know, it's it's been something I wanted to do every since I moved back from Melbourne and the start of two thousand and twenty. But obviously, how everything panned out, it just made it impossible to move out. So, nonetheless, I'm here now and I'm enjoying it. It's good. It's everything I imagined. The only things missing is the fact that I can't socialize or have anyone over, or I can't leave. I'll get arrested if I'll leave my driveway. So, you know, apart from that, it's pretty good and I'm loving it. Man. So have we looked into the single social bubble at all? Do you have any understanding what that bullshit is? I think they call it a single social bubble where you're allowed, you're allowed to elect one person to encroach on your your restricted area, if you will. Yeah, that's that's true, but I mean, if you ask me, the only kind of person I'd want to be coming here is some that someone that I'm going to smash. And if that's not the case, then might as well more yeah, that's right. And I mean, you know, a few j days later and a watermelon with a mask, like we can't win them all. So anyway, that was a story. That is Nike tobby before the show and I shall not continue on that stage. But I mean it's all good, like it's all good when he's good, when you see, like your mate and his misses and stuff. But then like when you when you see with your mate, when you see your when you see, when you see, when you see, your mace is unravel when you see your mate. Yes, well, optuous, scrumshous cheeks, all of a sudden, I'm gay. Bright the fuck, I believe. I believe what turns is strying to present is the dilemma that we all option face. Is that, you know, is when you know you'll find too. You know, two girls, they often just, you know, kiss themself and you know it, kiss each other and you know it's all good. You know the kiss each other on the cheeks, but you know, just like they also use is the same example. It's like, you know, one drink doesn't make you an alcoholic. You know one cigarette doesn't make your smoker. You know, then, why? Why? Why, or why does one bbcem all of a sudden make you, you know, gay? Whatever. It's a legitimate question. The question is so, you know, when I just want to you know, when I just want to clap my boys will luptuous cheeks. Once this is not a good start to the podcast and, as Katie Perry once said, I've kissed a girl and I liked it. So we'll continue on, you know, we will speaking. Look that I do agree with that, but as you...

...know, as because of his first painting wasn't perfect. You know, anyway, moving on, it just kind of I just try to copy. Wouldn't said earlier. Yeah, and you tried really hard and I do appreciate that. So obviously we're moving in regards to this question that I will forget if I don't ask it immediately. So in one of our many takes before this final recording that we're proceeding with tonight, we're sort of speaking a little bit just about some of the things that come up when you're moving out for the first time. Obviously there's the generic ones, you know, doing your own washing, sorting your own food, that sort of thing. Make sure you wake up on time, right. But what was what sort of one of the things that you didn't suspect to either be an issue or one of the things you didn't suspect to miss about living at home or living with other people. I don't know, I think it's hard to really point out anything like because everything is a bit of the whole. The whole thing is a is just a giant learning process for me because, I mean, I moved out to Melbourne for two years, you know, before this, and you know I learned so much there. But the thing is is, like I was still with people, so I didn't really feel like I was necessarily a loan at any point and like and I always had someone there to kind of like remind me of things or I would just never really forget. It wouldn't feel like I was kind of I wouldn't. You wouldn't feel like I'd moved out, because I'd always have people around you. So, like, you know, little things around the House that you might need would always just be there, the same as it would if I was living with my parents, because, you know, there was just someone else there to maybe think of that. But in this scenario where I'm on my own and I kind of have to do everything, I'm literally on my own. You know, if I forget or if it doesn't get done, then it doesn't get done. And and then I realized after and I'm like, Oh, damn, I should have done that. So I don't know, there's not there's not really one thing that I could tell you right now. That kind of caught me by surprise because a lot of it was expected and like I knew what I was getting myself into. And Yeah, I mean I wanted this and and I know it's going to like help me grow a lot and become more sort of independent. I mean I'm cooking a lot more. I'm trying to. I made it a made it a challenge for myself to get better at cooking because, you know, up until recently have only been able to make two minute or not even two minute, like me going noodles or like egg pretty proud of that, but that, you know, I got to expand it a bit. So yeah, yeah, I don't know. Everything is a bit of a bit of a learning process. He's honestly couldn't tell you. One thing I remember when we first moved our turns to Melbourne ride was it was just realizing the fact that you have to buy a toilet paper alone. That was a big deal as was like, God damn, I thought that should just showed up in the house. Yeah, you know, absolutely, yeah, you it's it sounds so simple, but it is so true because you just don't think about that stuff. You know. Yeah, you go, okay, this just shows up, but you know clearly it doesn't. Doesn't just show up. So it's fairly interesting learning those little lessons about, you know, life and whatnot. Yeah, hundred percent, lolocome, what about look, I'm what about you? When you first moved out, I was it for you. Like I might have missed the towel end of it, but I know before you and talking about company, right, like obviously there's a stuff that we do and that sort of thing. It was like, I'm guessing Charence was obviously the company, or at least having that person around. And like, I moved out of home, it was about twenty fifteen. So it's sort of me and shall up going out for about a year. Charlotte was really proactive and she was the one pushing the move because she hated my family. I'm just taking with up. We've got a great head relationship. No, but basically from the from when she was eighteen she moved from the southern highlands or bar or, where she grew up, and she went to she started going to uni in Sydney right so she became very adapt early on, like as soon as she finish high school, of living outside of home. So when we first started going out, we're living there for a while and she came to live with my family for about four or five months and it was one of those things where it was and I didn't realize that, and she first suggested, Hey, did you want to go and get our own place? And at that time, like I still have a great relationship with my family and I was sort of like not really, like, I haven't really thought about it, but within a few days it just felt like the right thing to do. Right, so we went did it. It turned out really good and obviously I moved in with her and I wasn't just moving out by myself, so I had the company, you know, I had someone that actually cared about me live with me. Even better, and I had a cook to so shout out to Charlotte. Just joking, but the thing that I noticed straight away was like the oftentimes I was like when I didn't. So when I didn't know what to do during the day or I had some downtime, I would just bounce off other people. So I'd go hang out with my brother or my sister or my dad, or I'd go we had a dog at home, so I'd go and hang out with them and I'd sort of film my time until the next event came up. Right, and so when I was living with her and we'll sort...

...of on our own, I had to start to fill that time, you know, even more productively or with different things. So it was it's kind of you don't waste time when you live if other people, but you've kind of just got this easy outlet that hey, you know, if you're doing something, you can just move along come back later. So it actually helped me at the time I was at Uni and it helped me study a little bit more because it was like hey, whatever, what else am I going to do? Basically, since I moved out a home, I I pretty much don't watch TV anymore and it was maybe that was like that bonding time that we would have as a family, whatever else, but I stopped watching TV and I sort of started to adult a little bit more. I certainly miss my mom's cookie and I still do. I miss seeing my family all the time, but I think the fact that you grow so quickly because that reason, you start to develop your own habits and personalities outside of your family. That's what I enjoyed the most about moving at a home and thankfully I haven't had to go back since because if everything's worked out really well. But it was interesting because it's like that's part of your growth and development as a person. You've got to be self sufficient, not just in regards to your finances and everything else, but you've also got to be able to fill your time productively and correctively, and for a lot of people that's work. So they come home and they could don't feel like they need to move out a home because, like, they work full time and they do all this sort of thing. When you actually have some time to yourself, you're like wow, this is like this is actually real adulting. It's not just making big decisions, it's actually what do I do with my time? So it was yeah, it was very much something I couldn't realize into or couldn't understand until I did it, but I was like I loved it. Ay, I could just made. I could just see myself grow and move on quickly. Yeah, and I think I feel the exact same where, like I completely agree with everything you've just said there, because you know that's exactly what I'm experiencing now and you know that that's a big reason why, you know, I wanted to make this move is because, although I'd already, like I mentioned before, moved out prior to this, I was always with people and and this time I really wanted to kind of take that leap and risk, I guess you could say, to be on my own, because I knew there was there's nothing like I read this quote once and I couldn't, I couldn't tell you like word for word what it was, but I know I remember what it was basically talking about and it basically kind of relates a lot to what we're talking about now. And it was saying, like, you know, when you're in your you know you're like, you could say eighteen, two, maybe late twenties or something like that. Around that age, you know it's probably the best time for you to kind of move out and just like explore or just move to another city or another state or you know, doesn't have to be extreme to go to another country or whatever, but just kind of like put yourself in an unfamiliar environment, you know, because obviously up until then you'd be used to just being at home and everything's already there for you and just prepared. So by throwing yourself into that kind of environment, you you just really grow so much more than you would, I'd say, if you were just always living with people or with your parents. And I think that's all and it. And just quickly touch on that. There's a really interesting little conversation that Jordan beatrisen had as well, and I know a lot of people aren't very huge fans of him, but there's a little interested he says, call those motherfuckers out, the terrorists, school the motherfucker. All right, so just social terrorists. So, you know, he talks about feeling to launch right. So he talks about as a as a young adult, right when you're move out, or my problem is actually looking wating to early. He exactly in many guts. That's not what she said. Sorry, that's real late. So and and it's interesting because when he talks about that, that is true when you think about it, because when you fail to launch, you know you are. Essentially, that's what you're doing. You kind of, you know, staying in the protection of your little parents bubble and whatnot, and so yeah, it's kind of, yeah, ends up, you know, putting you in that position where you we've had this sort of conversation before. We're like with because you and I like we obviously have a group of friends, but you and I specifically are the ones that, you know, moved to Melbourne right and, you know, coming back and, you know, catching up with the boys and all the people that we knew here in Sydney. He was like, we got into a conversation with one I'm out one of our mates. Rhas shouted if you're listening. You probably not, but you know, shout out to you anyway. You know, we were talking about like just growing and how time flies and all this kind of stuff and you know, he made a he made a comment and he was like, you know, he maybe he's just not like as mature, or he's he's just not like he's just a bit slow and he hasn't grown and are for any anything like that. Adam. It was weird because it was like he's exact same age as us. You know, we've gone to school, we've experienced all these things together and we've basically grown up. We've all grown up together, and he will just trying...

...to wonder what. Why does he feel like he's behind or he's not, like he's not there with us as far as like, you know, growing and just progression in life. And you know, after discussion and he can I came down to one pretty logical reason. Is because him and I, we moved out and and we met so many people and we experienced so many things and you know, that's why I say, like, as I mentioned before, like getting out there and moving out and just throwing yourself in a different environment forces you to grow and to adapt to those you know, that environment and in those situations that come along with it. So I think that's why he probably felt that maybe he wasn't, you know, at a stage in his life that maybe we felt like we were, because although with the same age and we grew up together, because for that to pick two years, that period that we were gone, we had grown so much in that two years that it almost felt like we'd lived you know, it almost felt like we was like just so much older than this guy, when really we weren't. And Yeah, I just wanted to point that out because I thought that was so true and it just made a lot of sense when we when we came to that solution, that that you know, that reason. I agree. I agree absolutely. I think there is this few levels to this as well, and it's easy to easy to just go all because we moved out as well. I think this couple of reads, because it's moving out, is one part of it, but it's actually essentially starting a system or a flown things of this self growth journey or launching into something that is, you know, new and exciting. I mean even I know this is, for example, moving back, right, and then this is this maybe a little touchy subject, of a touchy subject. However, you know, for example, let me give me a small example, right, my mentality or like how I, for example, treated, or thought, not necessarily treat to, how I thought about certain certain you know, groups of people, right, had changed because I spend fair bit of time in Melbourne, right, because, you know, different location. There's culture is different, different priorities and the way of life is move different. So all those things, when you take into account, you go okay, like, so it does change because you know, you are no longer you no longer doing the exact same thing you were doing before. Now you're doing something different because you have to adapt and you know, humans are adaptable. So ends up you end up actually, you know, being something different. So, you know, the same person. Yeah, and you know that's that's why it's just so important to get yourself out there and and never, you know, never become too content with how your wife is. You know, you always want to be working towards something or, you know, doing different things, because I think that's the only way to really to really grow as a person. And you know, I think that's the only way that I mean, like that's probably I mean you can go really deep into this sort of topic and then ask like all, well, what's the meaning of life and all these kind of stuff, but I can do you at the meaning of life is. Well, what's your definity? Can certainly try. What are Your Pa what are your guys? And I guess definition of what the meaning of life is. Well, backtrack before we go there. So That's interesting. When Riaz was having that conversation with you, did he feel a sen was there set in the sense of like dissatisfaction with his life, or was he disappointed that he hadn't moved out yet, or was he more curious as of why you guys didn't? He hadn't? I think maybe there was a part of him that kind of felt like a bit sad because he was like, you know, he might have just felt like left behind, and you know that. I guess that's a normal thing. I mean, if it was me, I would feel the same way. I'd be a little sad if my mates, if I saw my mates after like two years and like they almost seemed like different people just because they grown so much. And Yeah, I'd feel a little bit sad. So I would assume he'd probably feel a little that way as well. But I think it was all coming from a good place and I guess, you know, yeah, he just in the moment just felt like maybe he just didn't do enough or maybe he made some wrong decisions or anything like that. I could be wrong, but me and that's just how I'm reading reading the whole situation. Yeah, I get you, and sometimes that's the case, right, like you need that motivation externally to do something. Sometimes it's an internal thing, like, as I said before, without with without Charlotte suggesting that at that time, I probably wouldn't. I definitely wouldn't have to move it out at that stage. I've always been a bit of a by that natural sort of selection. I've always been a risk taker. So I'm more than likely I probably would have moved with you boys to Melbourne. I would have done something like that if I hadn't met Charlotte. And obviously that's you know, he's Ay. So he might be that type of person that feels se cure by staying at home. Obviously, financially...

...it's a good, good call because you know, likely paying fire less in terms of bills and rent and that sort of thing. But like it's only a cause for concern, if you can say that, if he's like wanting to do it but he's worried about doing it, and then obviously then it's like a don't be worried about it, because it's like an experience that we all kind of need to undertake. But like if you're thirty and you're still living at home because the opportunite, the right opportunity, hasn't come up, like there's totally nothing wrong with that. You know what I mean. And, like most definitely. When you meet people, it's sort of like a natural inklant to think a lot. How could I live at that person or that person's looking for someone to move in within. Those sort of things happen. But like if he sort of just wants to do it because someone else has done it and it's like Oh wour, it's like, don't stress about it, bro like it'll come. The time will come, and then when the time does come for you to move, like you'll realize it's what it's all about and we all kind of made mistakes. Like I've lived I think the House I'm living at now is the Fourth House I've lived at since I moved out. That's in about six years. So, like, moving sucks. So like when you want to move, you want to really move right. So, yeah, that's a good, good call on your end. They're like it's it's it's nice when we're starting to get to that age where our personal experience is actually starting to mean something, right, like we're not kids and yeah, absolutely anyway, but it's just sorry, you go on on me. I was just going to say that is such a nice and such a interesting thing to hear. It kind of makes you feel semi in the Sargic, even though this is a present but you know, it's interesting feeling to hear that someone say that about our generation or so well, other age of people. It's group of people gone tourts. I was just going to say. Another thing is like, you know, as we know, time fliers and and you know, we can often get caught up in all these things that maybe don't really matter so much in the grand scheme of things. And you know, especially now that you know the world we're living in, it's it's just everything's it's just crazy. It's a crazy world we're living in nowadays. And you know, I mentioned this to you guys just before this and I was saying how like I feel like a lot of people are. Well, I mean, I'd hope, I'd hope so, but I'd hope that a lot of people take this whole lockdown thing and isolation thing a lot more seriously and like, sorry, I just I hope people can come out of this and start to appreciate, you know, human interaction and just the simple things in life, because we've been so restricted of all that kind of stuff for many months now and it's you know, even if it's two months or one month for a two week lockdown type of thing. You know, they're they're always, they're just they've been so constant and it's there's never been like a moment where I could feel like, okay, we're we're on the right track now, everything is getting better, because before you know it, you're back into it again. Yeah, that's a great point and, like, I think it's also highlighted the importance of being able to find something that has great importance to that is less and less predicated on the external world right like an out of our control. Our careers and our personal growth is all good, like these things are all really great, but even though they might provide a sense of satisfaction, a sense of achievement, without that we might not be able to move on to the next stage about life. These are all things that we're doing. Real content meant real happiness, you know, real everything else is based on what we're achieving personally, the demons that we're fighting every day and beating, the changes were making our life, the generational personality traits that we're using, avoiding and moving on from, like all these things. That's really the most important thing. Like you could you could be a six accessful person on paper but still not be happy at all. So I'm hope. I'm hoping. That's for me, what I'm trying to extract from every day, and it's really difficult to shift when you're, you know, the basis of like for a long time, the basis of my happiness was predicated off the things that I achieved. Right, like, I can still is. I haven't achieved fucking nothing. So I can say as much as I want, right. But, like, I'm starting to realize that what I'm the opinion about myself and other people that I formulate is much more important than the things that I do. So I think, apart from also realigning that and making sure we're sort of narrow path, it's also about understanding that the things that are outside of our control or the things that exist when we're not around, like the show must go on. If I get fired tomorrow, this business is still going to be here. It's an important part of my life, but it can't define you because you're just going to be subject to things you can't control. Yeah, that's a very good point, because it's very easy to think that the word is wrapped or on you, and it is really egotistically in a way, but you know, it's a human nature to think that it's like a survival mechanism, you know, like it's not. It's yeah, it can be egotistical, for sure.

It's very natural, though. Yeah, Human D and he's absolutely very natural. So it's quite interesting because that happens very often and that, which is the same thing that gets your way from focusing on the things that matter. You know, where this relationships and stuff, because there's a there's a little common occurrence that I hear between an I hear catch myself seeing those as well. So this is just kind of talking in regards to relationships, right, is often, let's say, if you know someone I, you know, I had a close relationship with and now they don't haven't seen them put in as much effort or whatnot. Right, I build this instantly, create this wall of like, you know, of dread and like, you know, a little anger towards them and like because I'm like Yo, you know what, I made that effort and like did this, did that, and like, you know, I want to cut them out of my life and what not. So that's kind of cause those thought patterns start in your head and you know what, to be honest, part of it is probably great because you want to cut out those cut out all the junk that you don't need and people that are not adding value to it. But, to be honest, maybe because because it's the fact is, I wouldn't know what's going on people's life right maybe someone wants to keep you around, but you know once you're around. But just the fact that, like, you know, a they've been probably they probably just forgot, or maybe they probably shouldn't forget, but let's say they did forget all, like you know, they've been busy. Life is all these things happen. You know, it's been past couple of years been challenging time. So all these challenges come up. You know how people are thinking because, like, for example, I had recently been struggling to talk to people, like I don't want to reply to people, I don't want take calls just because, you know, most of one of the main reason is because I've got nothing new to share with people and I've got like you know, I just don't know what to say right. So it's interesting. As for so you see that you don't really want to talk to people and it's just like the same thing, which is, you know, do so it's interesting that that same thing comes in because we are so self central. We end up like, you know, building these walls where his career and what not. You look at career, you you go either one or the other way. One you hate your job and you, you know, resent your forses and stuff. Otherwise like well, you know, this company will close if I don't you up tomorrow. So all those things are egocentric, but I think they are all well within our control. To control those so we can focus on the things that matter with it, that's keeping your friendship healthy and, you know, going, you know, keeping your adventures alive and all those things, because soon as those balances fall out, of fallout and you know, that's when you start to really lose the you know Sud lose that quality of life. Yeah, so depression is such a real thing and it manifests itself in people's lives in a very different way and I know for me personally, and most most research points to three or four different things. When someone is eive clinically or at least diagnosed in some form of aggression and like distancing themselves and not being. You know, we can all have days where we're not a normal cells right, but, like, if you normally like talking to people and then you don't want to talk to people, like you might actually be depressed and it's nothing, it's nothing to there's nothing to be it's nothing to feel bad about. It's just starting to realize that, hey, like we actually have this thing that, you know, I don't feel great at the moment. It's not really my fault, it's the fact that I can't do what I normally do and everything else, and it's just all part of that growth and it all it always what it is. You know, you've got mad people around you and we always have a small group sometimes, but it's really great small group of people around us who can give us a kick in the bartle or cheer us up when we need it. Yeah, that's that's what's so great and that's what's so hard about, like the divisiveness of the world were living at the moment right, like we're just people just so willing to sever those ties that maybe they developed for so many years based off, you know, a point of view or based off what people should, how people should, I shouldn't act and that's what's so disheartening about, you know, disheartening about the way people are interacting with themselves, with each other at the moment. It's like, and you know, it's obviously based, like we don't have a lot of time to do it we normally do, so we're forced to consume more media or whatever. It is, like it's just hard because it's like, man, we're at the end of the day, we're all human beings getting through the damn thing together, and it's sort of breaks my heart when people start to unravel and start to yeah, you do. You feel like a sense of hostility from people and not knowing, like not knowing how to answer something is actually really it's not a bad thing, like sometimes that that is the answer and then you can delve deeper and actually get into the way you're feeling and everything else. So, yeah, I don't ever feel like you shouldn't talk to me because you don't have anything to say. Like fuck, if we did that might we would have done about for podcast. That would be all she wrote. So it is absolutely I know, I agree. I think one of the things I'm saying, I'm not I don't mean like I literally don't want to talk to. It's not that, you know, I'm always really excited to do this podcast because I'm like fuck, something to do, right, but I'm don't more in terms of like, you know, wanting to just socialize in general and like, you know, just randomly call people and all those stuff that I used to do before. That I'm finding difficult because, you know, there's nothing new, because, you know, someone I was talking to before. I was so someone saying, because I was...

...talking to actually I was talking to a girl a couple of weeks ago. I want to feel like meeting people. I that's exactly right. That's another thing as well. You know, I was talking to this girl before we went into lock down right, and I was just we're just continue chatting. We had plane or move, meaning up and whatnold right. And but what happened was I realized she's like Oh, she's like, Oh, when I do a video called like jazz, really can't you are how much did you charge? I could, I could tell you that after the podcast. That's okay. It's fifteen dollar netflix subscription. All right, yeah, that's right. So one of the things I want. Things I realized was, like I didn't want to just go talk to her because I was just like what she's like. She'd normally ask the question of like, so, what did you get up to? Absolutely nothing, like same thing as yesterday, you know. So after a while you just go, yeah, fuck this, you know, just this conversation is going noway kind of stuff, you know. Yeah, or you just get good at answering the same question over and never again. A good day schools away. So I found a good way to answer the question not have it asked again. Is You actually break your day down. So I'd say I'll sort of eight o'clock. I woke up, I went to work from nine hundred and twenty five. Freakin traffic was terrible. I got happing about thirty. Had didn't like literally be like that asshole that does that and then baying. They won't ask you anymore. Strict. No, I mean sometimes, sometimes we actually do more than we think. It's just like Shit, I just got out and I like what makes us things that we did nothing. I mean, obviously if you sit down on the couch and he don't do anything and with ten of thing are did nothing but mine. If it's work, it's work. Absolutely want to talk about yeah, it's probably that more. It's true, it's true, it's true. Hey, I've got a little, got a little. I mean, it's not a game, but what this little thing for every want to ask terrence those questions as well? We've yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'm getting those questions. Matt, I've got another questions that I have. Those questions are open in front of me. So one of the things. So we'll do this game. Tell us. You know about this, right. So it's called area of balances. Right, I think you'RE A so. So life essentially, if you think about it, it's divided into three get three main categories of right. So you got experience, so that's all the things that you experience in life, and then you got growth, like you know how you want to growth and progress and all those things. And last one is contribution. So those are the three main aspects of life that you have in, you know, in your living life that you've had. You know, so this they also include, you know, the psychological stuff and the physical and all those stuff. Right within those we don't those areas, within those categories. We've got areas, right. So, for example, under experiences we've got love, friendship, adventure, environment, undergrowth. We've got health and fitness, intelligent, intellectual life, skills, spiritual life, you know, wellbeing, and you know well being, sorry, wealth building, well being, quality of life and career contribution, green, sorry, contribution is goes under contribution, course, under career and creative life, family, community and life crawl as you do, like you know. So those are the things. So they are the areas of balance. Right. So what I want to do is right, I'll ask you guys this questions, right, and this is going to be quick fire, right and not take too long to think about it, and you can answer, but I one after each other and we'll see how what that what the current stances? We get right and see. You happy to go first? Bright? Yeah, yeah. So, so basically, you rate the number out of ten. Right, don't think about too much, and I'm going to ask them in a random order. So you also a number writing things at it. Yeah, so between one to ten. Way, how you feel about your current situation with that particular area? Right? Love and relationship, somewhere between six and nine. Now I just have to say that definitely a ten. Brother ten, ten, awesome. So all right, friendship, eight. Seven. Okay, right then, plus you too. You're going with ten. Now, now I'll go. Sometimes, like your you almost have to trust your gut. INSTIGAT's go, I'll go. It's a pretty good number. Eight, okay, adventure. Six, six, predicated on lockdown, closing. Six. Sorry, I'm cheating. Environment. Three, so like your surroundings, you mean Pa. So that yeah, I don't know. Clarified that one in the previous one because it's adventure and I'm not really doing anything. Yeah, so that could be. That's adventure. Environment is think the way your living conditions, how you living, how you feeling about asking the question again? Environment. Five, eight, laugh, health and fitness. Six, eight and a half. Luck, intellectual life. So that's the kind of things that you've been doing to you know, like basically read stuff,...

...listen to intelligent podcast things that get you thinking. Seven and a half. Eleven. I must be amazing right now. It's good rights. I talk about it later. It's your life, spiritual life, ritual life. I say about it. About a six point five. Look, so I'd going to go eight and a half, but the difference between eight and a half of ten is a long way. So it's a long journey. But eight a half of sure. Okay, after that. We've talked about well being, general wellbeing better. Six, yeah, seven, career. That is seven and a half, eight and a half, point seven, knack, just three, when you say it in a half. That was already yeah, I had a point. All right, creative life, things that you're doing to you know, how do you feel about your creativity? And the one feeling to asshole. Know, why don't you answer last that? I'm interested to hear some of your responses. Okay, sounds good. Do you want to do a couple? Maybe don't do all of them, maybe do a three or four that maybe jumped out of you. Okay, well, I actually did this just before. I'll give you some of the answers, right, so I can tell the answers. All right. So, for creative I actually did five. Yeah, I had five. Family Life. Are you asking the question? Yeah, okay, yeah, family life. Six, six, point eight. We get craziness. Seven. All right. And last but not least, community. Are you feeling, you know, playing your role in community? Are you feeling part of the community? Once again, lucky number six. Yeah, I'll go ten on that one. Sweet. Well, that's the major different look. Look, you're living the life. Honestly, right. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, living in coughs harbor the stress and the fact that we're and I'm lucky enough to even be creating sort of a similar job in and outside of lockdown. But what happens when you live in a place like coughs or anywhere else with a population is a lot smaller? You start to not feel like you're caught up in the daytoday, grind and endless and you sort of able to take a step back and you're able to alleviate some of those stresses that kind of inhibits you from doing the things that you want to do and you can use a certain amount of calmness, basically, and you're able to sort of figure out that things and most important in life. So, I mean, I can't write the move and Augh like yeah, it looks lie, save my life. So yeah, so I'm so happy. That's right. Also, if you out of asked me that shit two years ago, man like it was a different story. So yeah, it's been, it's been. It's good, man, very good, but I can still be away at a dad like massively. The reason I ask this right, ask that question and kind of you know, we're just talking about this as well. Right. There's couple of reasons. The first one was this is a good measurement of like how you viewing your life, and the way you view your life is probably the way how happy you are in general terms of speaking, at any given moment. Right. Obviously, lockdown. It's probably inhibiting all of ours. It's like like an false negative, a little bit a like yeah, well, yeah, false negative. So it's almost a false negative, right, but I can, I can. It's interesting enough. So I've got my three numbers, right. So because I did this, I do this every six months, right, so kind of see to keep a little tell you of where I'm at right. So with this is quite interesting. That I fun. So I've got my initial base mark of what it was. The baseline. This is from two thousand and nineteen April, right. So my numbers were my loving relationship was eight, friendship was eight, adventure was seven, environment for seven, health and fitness was eight, intellectual life, eight skills, nine, spiritual life three. So that was kind of lacking. Wealth Building Five, sorry, well being five, quality of life three. I don't know why I thought my quality of lives suchially. Yeah, it doesn't sound adapt it. Yeah, career, career, eight, creative life six, family life six, community three, life a community three. So that was my baseline. So and that was like total number of like you know, I was, I was sitting in ninety all together added up two thousand, two thousand and twenty. So in mid of Middle Too, mid twenty, two thousand and twenty. So August little later, so early August, it was loving relationship three, friendship six. So all those just fell down and this year I've just realized the only thing that has really boosted up. I still dropped on those numbers and I feel like this is that kind of indication of extended lookdowns a powerful the only thing that's really kind of lifted for me was essentially family life because I...

...moved in. Yeah, moved back home and kind of like more career, wealth building, those kind of things. That lifted more in growth. Not We're in. My experience has still kind of like lack in that area because those experience literally relies on your experiencing thing. At the moment we can't. So I think that's interesting. So yeah, it was feeling interesting because I kind of a good need to get to the reason I want to bring this up. You guys should definitely give us a go and kind of keep tell you of how your life looks, because you know whatever areas lacking, you can go, Oh, I need to work on this, you know, yeah, and then that kind of keeps you in balance. It's a really interesting little yeah exercise. Good way is your friends, like very measurable way. It's like you can see it exactly what's going on. And I remember when it was probably the back end. So it's nearly three years ago. I was seeing a psychologist at the moment and she gave me a very similar sort of quiz and answer and it was based off like you don't overanalyze it because when you start to think of was because I'm doing this, because I'm doing it, like just what's the gap feeling? Because you know, like you know these sort of things without even really having the delve deep and you can say, Oh, you know, it's a seven, but normally it's an and it's like what, is it a seven or not? Is there anything that anything from that that jumps out to you? Tens, I mean will clearly I'm not in like I don't feel like I'm in the best sort of position as far as where I am in my life right now, just during the trends. There's been so many changes that I've kind of come across for the lot, for the last little bit, and I feel like I'm struggling to find any sort of rhythm in any aspect of my life, you know, from health and fitness, love and relationship, is family and community and all those things that you mentioned. I think I'm finding, yeah, a bit of a bit of difficulty in finding a nice balance or, you know how just in general like this, having a bit of a routine. Like I feel like I'm all over the place and you know, I'm I'm kind of kind of struggling with like a lot of different things in my life and all those things have been heightened because, as you said, were in this lockdown. So it's just made all everything worse. And and I know for a sure, know for sure that, like I've done this test, because I don't an actually got me to do it before, and I can think back to that time and I already know off the top of my head that I was doing a lot better compared to the numbers that I just gave you now. I've actually got the answers for that. Do you want me to read? Yeah, even something to be okay. Good. So last time this was in April. That hasn't this the shocking. This is going to show him. This is going to show him. April two thousand and nineteen, you rated love and relationship at for. Today you reat it at for. So no move there. So that's not too bad, right. Friendship, you reat it at five. Today you read it at eight. Yeah, adventure, you reat it at five and today you reach it at six. Okay. Environment, you watt it at five. Today, you wrote it at three. Right. So in my met that's fair enough, covering nineteen. Right. Health and fitness, you rate it at three. Today you watt it at five. Intellectual Life, you watt it at five. Today you're written at five. Six skills, you retted at six. Today you're written at seven point five. Career, you retted at for. Today you reach it at seven point five. Creative Life, you're written at too. Today, you led it at six. And Community a family, you written at six. To the utter a six. And Community Life you written at seven point five. Sorry, six. And last time you reach it at to. You back your life is actually improved. Yeah, and I think like I think it's because when I gave you those numbers now I'm basing it of not necessarily like the the situation that I mean in this present moment, but more so where I am in my life at this stage, and I think I've obviously, from from that point up until now, I've definitely made some improvements in those areas of my life. But I think it's just right now. The reason why maybe some of those are a bit lower than, you know, how I scored them previously, is just because of the unfortunate situation that we're in nowadays. So everything just seems a bit more harder. And Yeah, for sure, look and look like that kind of proves what you said about being a false negative. Right. So this is really interesting because it really is just essentially proving that some of it is false negative. Yeah, and I think ow so, like our comparison often, often times goes into a situation where we said we don't think we think about either externally the way other people doing all the way that we potentially should be doing. But I think a good way to answer these questions is almost like how am I doing compared how is my adventure compared to a year ago? How is my social compared to a year ago? How is my relationships compared to a year ago? And howards? And that's the idea. Yeah, that's the idea of doing this exercise. So that's the whole reason totally.

And the feelings, the feeling of like that discomfort of like feeling like we're not doing enough, for we're not like like we just feel very stressed like that we're not achieving the what we should want to or we're just struggling a lot, like that's that is so like what we need to do, like we need to have that almost and it's like really, it sucks that it has to be this way, but we almost need to have that sense of like that we're swimming and then that we're like heads nearly going underwater, like that sense of like, oh my gosh, like this is almost unbearable. That's like really, that's the best thing for personal growth and sort of realigning where we need to position, like our priorities and that sort of thing. So, like it is freaking hard and it sucks that it's that hard, but if it's not that hard, then it's actually really a good thing that's happening now and not later in life like midlife crisis. Has Happened for a reason. It's because I don't think people go through enough of those sort of testing moments. So, yeah, that's that was a really good exercise, I reckon. Yeah, definitely, I think it's worth doing. After side, try keeping score then because, like you said, you know you can compare yourself and this is one way you can actually compare it to yourself. I tell it's good, beautiful questions for you. Right, is more fun. We promise this one it's more bit more fun and because and then we'll get to a conclusion of this podcast where we talked about how we shouldn't waste time, which is essentially kind of leading all dis to it. Right. Yeah, so we little one questions, meaning of life. Answer those question five, five easy questions, right, and then a bonus question by start with the look here, look out right. So number, question number one. Hum, you can answer this as deep as you like or surface level as you like. Question Number One. How do you take your coffee? Definitely not black. I don't think I can handle that. have to add some cramer into it. Looking, I mean I wish I could say that I take it black, but in every single instance that I've tried it, it's just it's two other powering for me. I'll tell you what, though, it once you go black, yeah, get back baby, but something we could all built for that. You know, some of us have built different so I appreciate exactly fair enough. Fail up, HMM. Tell us them two ways. And we're getting into the warmer months. And a starbucks. I still long black with a little bit of sugar, Freak Caramel. Mate, we don't have stars. Maybe, maybe, if starbucks came up here, I'd be scoring a few more tens in that category. I tell you that much was but a collaborate one, all right. Number two, what's your thought on the Flat Earth Puri Bullshit? Have a he anyone in their right mind will fucking know that it's not flat. It's just it's not. You know, you look at the science of things and like Oh, you're going to be like, oh, what's the sore insderence? Well, I can't tell you off the top of my head with the sciences, but just from fucking what you see on the Internet, after doing research and not just literally believing everything you you see. You know it's pretty easy to realize that it's not flat. It's not. Yeah, and you can talk about like the dimensions and all that kind of stuff and yeah, it's not like in a nuts show. That's my that's my ass. Not Flat. Okay, sounds good. You know what's funny? There was, I always remind whoays talk about this, because I always find this so funny, in the documentary, that flatter tourists made themselves and then they did this test, yeah, organization that's to see if the flowers was flat. At did themselves found it wasn't flat. So the end of the documentary surprised. I didn't because that's so yeah, yeah, I know it's hilarious. All right, what is the most embarrassing memory you have? Embarrassing Memory? Yeah, could be a childhood thing, could be you know, you're a young fellow selling that jumps here. Honestly, like if I have a love and hate relationship with these kind of questions, because it's like I know I have something that's super embarrassing, but I just can't think of it anymore. Like it's only embarrassing in that moment and then like later on I just forget about it. So that's why I can never recall those moments, but I just know that. Let me tell you this. There's this one time, and I can't tell you word for word just because I literally can't remember, but I know it's got to do with like sending messages to like girls and whatnot and accidentally saying something really stupid and you just feel that real cringe, kind of like pluck. Why did I do that? That's going to be so awkward. You know that kind of feeling. I've definitely sent a few of those kind of messages in my in my lifetime, and I think those are super embarrassing when they happen. So I'd say something door. I've been there for. Sometimes you read, you raise it, the message wrong, like or that's the hard part about like the word. It's like don't understand the context of way was written and I'm like, Oh man, I'm on to something here, and then it's completely like how the Hell did you get there? I'm like a fuck yeah, but that happens. That has happened to be so many...

...time it's no funny. I'm like Whoa, what did they say? And love actually completely under read something. My Mind's is under and everything. How about? How about that time when were you lined up like a what was it like? At three? It was like a two girls and US too. We're going to meet up with them yet and then we're going to go to more park, golf range, driver record. Yeah, and I was a double day. Yeah, Double Day that and he had lined up and then they last Ned said they were not going to come. And then, like you know, it when, if you're anyone in the dating scene, you know that it's all the game and you know it's people are just playing the game. So you know, and he can. I were thinking. I'm like, Oh yeah, well, I just don't reply or say this, you know, so that we can finish. And then I accidentally sent a sad face emode and that moment we will like fuck, why did we do that? Because it makes us feel so Beta, like it made us feel like so insignificant in that moment, because it was like we were these two guys who were going to meet up with these girls and they said no and then we just like fucking sent a sad face emergi like we were but hurt duds, like it was just it was just such a bad feeling. It was so awkward and it was just so embarrassing. Will like and then we just shut we just literally powered his phone off and like fuck, they'll you know what's funny, though, now that I think about don't even give a shit, but at the moment I wanted to throw my phone in. That's what I'm saying. Like that's why I forget a lot of these things, is because, like, in the moment it's so, like, so big and it's just like all out and then you end up just forgetting it, which is the best part because you don't have to relive that moment. Texts on making me live reallyive that, relive that, you know, obviously anyone moves out, are sorry to cut you off the so it's really interesting about that. Right. So, like, and it's not the exact same situation, but like safe you have a really traumatic experience right, like and you can never forget this for the rest of your life because it's like wow, it's like at leaves an imprint, not me. So there's actually they've done research on Quartos, on levels in your body, and if your cards are rote levels of really high like some and Adrenaline, some people black out or they go crazy. If it's a really stressful moment or whatever else, but they found it. There's a certain level, right, and I'd came remember exactly what it is, but for easy understanding, is zero to or a hundred, right, from sixty five to a hundred court as. All, you're going to remember this thing from like five thousand two and thirty five, where you sort of feel like a little bit of stress or a little bit of like my heart racing sometimes. That perfect amount of cars all has an impact on our nervous system and like the way it goes up to our brain and affects our memory. It's actually designed that way because think about if you're like back in the long times ago, when you're like in you know, fight or flight modes where you're doing stuff to survive, to certain things that you need to remember because next time, you know, if I deal with a beast or an animal, I need to remember what how what it's like. And there's other things where it's like if I don't need to remember that because it doesn't have an impact on me. So they were able to measure measure certain court as all levels or at dren lending conjunction with Cortis all and when it's really low or at a certain point you actually don't have a way of remembering it because it's not, it hasn't been important to our nervous system. Like it's fucking crazy, and some things all wonder, I know. Yeah, and there's no one that I never remembered those lectures, are you yeah, exactly right, where you get a little bit stressed because you're like fuck, I don't know what I'm doing and if he asked me a question, I'm going to get embarrassed. But it's like if you don't actually get the question asked to you, you actually don't give a shit, you know what I mean? That's right, and I think that's one part I've noticed about me personally growing up, is those things that I used to get affected by him so badly. He's a kid R like I would be so stressed out, like, oh my gosh, like I'm so embarrassed. Now nothing happens like now it's like, in order for me to remember something, it has to be like pretty bad, like I probably Shit my like I've tried to check a Fart and then I've shit myself, like that's a bad one. You know what I mean. Everything else you just water for a duck's back at was exactly is he's? What is he's? No, I've got another one question tost ready. What is your what is your boss proudest moment in life, or what are you most proud of in life? I think it's probably the mentality that I've kind of developed, which is like the the that I mean, it's a bit of a meme, but you know, the whole stay hard, God David Goggins type of mentality. It like as funny as it is, like with all the memes around it, it's dead ass true, you know, like it. I've learned so much just from sort of a lot like embodying that, that statement, you know, like the having that dog mentality and and staying hard, and it's just about, like, as another guy that I followed, Nick Bear, as he says, embracing the suck, you know, like in these difficult times, you know, just putting yourself in the most uncomfortable situations and really really challenging...

...yourself and seeing just what you're capable of, because a lot of the time, you know, a lot of us are capable, capable of doing so much, but we just don't know because we never put ourselves in the position to ever find out, and so that's why I think I love that like about me, and the fact that I think that's what I'm most proud about is because I think without that I would have never achieved a lot of the things that I have achieved now. And you know, it's yeah, I definitely, definitely think that's my proudest, proudest thing about myself because, yeah, I don't know where I would be if I didn't kind of bring that in. That's beautiful. Essentially, yeah, mental tough test. You know, I appreciate that. That's awesome. Good answer. All right. Next question. What do you want to improve on or remove your remove from your life in the next ten years? What do I want to improve on? I think you know another thing. Or what do you want to add to your life? Or what do you think? Well, I need to operated question. You can need to find a messages, that's for sure, just because you know, I do get my parents off my back, and not just that. You know I'm at a point in my life way wouldn't I wouldn't mind cuddling up with someone you know that's not your mate. So one of the boyds take so a. So why or why would I want to grab my bits of love, shous and it getting your and we're sorry, said the question again. I just what do you want to improve on or adding your life or remove from your life in the next ten years? Oh yeah, so, yeah, I think the whole love and relationships. For me personally, I think that's been an area where I've always tread lightly on or like being afraid of certain things. And Yeah, so I could definitely use some improvements there. And also, I think cutting off people that don't add value to my life whatsoever. And you know, I've taken steps towards that already by just simply unfollowing people that I literally don't interact with or just, yeah, bottomline, don't add any value to my life because it's it's like what's the point of having them around if, you know, like they don't support you or they don't they're just literally they just waste a space. But so, you know, like it doesn't matter how I've met these people or, you know, I might have worked with them for a couple months or a year, or I might have met them through this person or that person and in the moment we would have got along, which is why we kind of connected through social media and all this kind of stuff. But at the end of the day, I asked myself a question. I was like, you know, do these people? Are they going to be there in those times of need where when I like am down on my knees begging for like, I don't know, I just need some some saving. That's so deep. But you could, you could cut that search true, would. You can cut that piece of audio, and that's the nament. That's actually that's the name of the podcast, that right there. But now, yeah, I think cutting out all those people that I think will won't add any value to my life because it's just, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to surround myself with that kind of stuff. And it brings another saying, like you are who you surround yourself with, you know, like you're a product of your environment. So if I constantly have these you know, and especially now that I'm always on my phone and the whole digital I work in that industry as well, so like I'm always seeing stuff on a screen, and if if a lot of what I'm saying on the screen is things that aren't adding value to my life. You know, then what's the point of even having it there? It's just it's just jump, you know. So I think that's something that I'd also like to improve on, is just removing people or things that don't add any value to my life whatsoever. Yeah, and as hard for that sounds, I think it's so important because otherwise you're just going to be caught up in this oh yeah, but, like you know, they're still nice and this day and sure, yeah, they're probably are still nice, and if you see him on the street they'll probably say high and you might have a little conversation. But I mean still, for me that isn't any reason for me to have them, you know, in that sort of circle, that immediate circle that I have around me. Yeah, you go through that experience of dealing with ever a negative outcome, more and experience, but you have with them a lacquefiability or you just have like this awakening moment when you realize they're not actually there for me, either their personal reasons or selfish reasons. And then, but you only get that knowledge, wisdom and understanding. That's why, when I was young, my parents would tell me, or my dad in particular would tell me to stop hanging out with this person and I'll be like why, you don't know them. It's like, yes, they do know them. For forty years he's been dealing with people like that. They're just a kid, like yes, it's JEM's brother, it's Jim's older we get them all. We turned into our parents. So yeah, that's a good answer, Bro Yeah, good. At the end of the day, it was as someone...

...who may or may not have had a little bit of success with one or two relationships I've had, the most important thing, and it sounds really easy and obvious, is to be yourself. Blah, blah, blah. I don't you know, boo myself. That's great advice, but when you actually are truly being yourself, like the thoughts of like or how is this person going to take this? Or do I have to say this or that don't actually come into your mind because you're just you're being yourself in that situation. You're answering the questions right like, you're putting yourself out there in the right way. So if that person isn't reciprocating anything back at you that you'd like, it just means they're not the right person for you. So I think we all, we always get caught up in trying to change who we think we should be to make that other person happy. And that the end of the day, even if you get that person in a year or Tho's time, when you guys aren't compatible, it's because you weren't honest with yourselfs at the start. So and you're both too beautiful human beings. So you guys will get there and you'll get there in a big way. In the beautiful thing about being a little bit older when you find that person is thinks move so quickly within a year, like your life is set. So it'll come, let's it will come, my man. So I've got another question, and actually I've got two more. One more question before the bonus question. We got to be questioned the care buy. Just just big questions to come right there. So this question is, this is, this is. You're gonna have to answer this in a shop. Gonna have to answer this in a quick fireway, right. I don't want you to think too much about it. I don't want you to drive this all you wanted that way, you hand over your gun, then okay, you've got sixty seconds to answer this question. And I'll tell you when you're reaching fifty seconds. Right, sir, where do you see yourself in the next ten years? And so the date in the in so you we're talking about September eleven, two thousand and thirty one next day. In the ten years time today, really say September. What does your life look like? What does it let your life look like and who you are two thousand six? So can we just quickly do some mass how old will I be in that? That's in that year? How old will you be? So you're twenty five. Ye'll be thirty five. Th Fuck, thirty five, twenty five. Now Shit, all right, your time starts. No, I think Korea wize the start. I would I see myself working for myself in some capacity. You know, I might still be working for an employer, but I think, I think at that point I want to have something that I've for myself, that I've got going going on aside from just working for someone, and hopefully that will mean that I'm pretty financially stable and I'm good in that area. So that's that's obviously a big and important thing there. I would like to think that I would have somebody there with me as well, like a wife or or a girlfriend. You've got thirty seconds left. So yeah, I'd like to have a best case scenario or wife and kids, you know, because I've always wanted to be a family, like a husband and a father. So yeah, and hopefully, you know, all these world with my family and their health is good and they're happy and things are gone swell on that end. And same with my mates. Hopefully my mates are healthy and happy and you know, they're all they're all doing well with their careers and and I think that's that's really it. I just want to be, you know, financially stable, happy families, good friends are good and I think at the end of the day, that all. That's that's all I want, and that's your time. What a man. That's good, but a bit. I like that. I like that. If we clip that sixty seconds and put it on a few dating APPs, mate, he'll be jaded in no time, for sure. We hold all right, hold on next to that. I think that was good. It was good. The reason I put the time restruction there is because otherwise we start thinking about what we want and all those things. Yeah, this is good, good, serious. wrote a real answer. All right, to wrap off the bonus question. This is a big one. Lack and do you and ask this question. I making for int scary go I. that's a terrible drum roll. It is letter. Hold hold on, I've got drum got drum roll for this. Let me. Let me give you drums, the drug drums. That's a joke, my straight job. All right, let's go, let's go. I think it. Terrence Samonte, how big is your penis? You know what it's probably about, like just under sticks. That's good, that's a great answer. Connor great avoided it and he sort of half intoed it. So I appreciate the honest I like on honestly, like gentlemen, it's look, I fuck. I'd Belin if I said I was packing a mad one now, for sure. I think all of us out there wish they could be back in that but the reality is it's doesn't seem to be that case. Unless you got a darker complexion, then you know you just got everything gone. HMM, could you've got has been a disappointment ahead at the end of the day. That's it. Don't grade. You don't grade a trade's...

...ability on the size of his tords, his ability that use the tool efficiently. So I appreciate that very much. That's it. That's it. All right. Well, that note and you won't want to try answering the main question. What is the meaning of life? Terrence, as our special guest, the meaning of life, I think at the end of the day, if I would have pinpointed down a one word, I'd say connection. That's big like it. I'd say connection in and you know, connection between people, connection with fucking the earth, connection with animals, I don't know, just connection. Yeah, I think, and I think I've come to learn that firsthand now being alone for a period of time. You know, like I look for like I get so happy just talking to people and like seeing people and and just those simple pleasures that I often takes for granted. And and yeah, I think, I think to me, that's that's what the meaning of life is, is just connection, because without that, you know, I'd be pretty rough. And they might. That is a damn. That is a heck of an answer. Connection. That's a one word. Might. That is a coffee mark. That is outstanding. Put that on a shit that they can you talk. That is Gosh Oh late. I don't think I could talk that, but I think I'm going to try answering that in my weird way. I think the meaning of life lies somewhere within the answer the terrence cave and also, you know, also within living a certain living, a certain way where you know, you explore and you kind of God, Damn, I can't doct that. That's those good answer anything. I look at think about it. Good. You go back together. Yeah, it really is, like you could you keep cover everything in it. Huh? You could be. You could be like, you know, that the bottom of the barrel, but if you had somebody there that you're that you just connect with and just talk to, like you don't realize how powerful conversation can be, and just feeling like you're not alone, you know, and it's just so powerful. And that's why I'm you know, that's why I say that, is because without connection, then fucking there's no what is wife? If you're not connecting with anyone? What is wife? That is true. That is true. That's a hell, I think absolutely. I think in a little bit more philosophical way, I think it is true. You know, see your connection with your life, the friends, people, God and all these everyone. I think it is connection is fairly good answer. I think it's also I think a big part of the meaning of answers, and this does come under connection, is is playing a role in life, living assential, essentially making an impact on the word that you were born into. You know, improving the improving the world around you and you know, improving the People's life around you and all those things. And I think you know, leaving the word better than you found it. Is what I feel like what I make the meaning of life for me. But I think connection does very much kind of or kind of connection does literally over arches that. So yeah, man, that is beautiful. I think, like I think for me there's original life. Yeah, that's right, that's right. So I think the origin. So I think the meaning goes back to origin. Right, so it goes back by why? Yeah, so it goes back to the way coming started. So, yeah, absolutely, meaning the meaning of something is the way it was started, right. So, like why was that thing created? So if it's true that we were actually created, then our meaning would be found in our creator. So if we were created beings, then our meaning of life would be found in our creator. And then if we actually have a creator, then that's our connection right there. So, yeah, how did it all begin? Then we'll find our answer. If it's true that we were created, then that's our answer. If it's somewhere else, then it's somewhere else. But yeah, go back to the start and then you'll find them the meaning for sure, and that's everything nice. Yeah, well, it's pretty good. That was three some three their boys, big place saw me out. It's good. Hey, I do want to quickly touch on one more thing, and this is what kind of a turns started and turns. You can say something then I know this is time being have been rough on everyone, this whole covid nighteen situation. I do and and turns. You kind of touched on it. So this kind of give me the little pad with to start and you can quickly talk about this as all before we wrap up this podcast. Is that I you're right. I do truly hope once we come out of this lockdown and once we come out of this situation, people do value other people more and, like you said, people do finally realize it is about connections and that connection, even if that kind action kind of connection could be with this, with your God, or whether it's with earth and everyone. I think it's very much so realizing, realizing the fact that having the freedom to choose...

...to do things is huge and so many people struggle with that and we don't take that Shit, take that for granted, because when you talk about things like you know, for example, you don't. We're talking about mental toughness right. I was just thinking that. The crazy thing is even choosing to place yourself in tough places is a choice. When that choice gets taken away, even that kind of you know, no longer applies. So it's increase. It's incredible, absolutely, but the so there's so many different things that you feel so that impact your life because of the little lock down that whole these older situation that this coronavirus situation has brought us into. So I do think people all around the word. Have you learned something from them, if anything, because you know, I think if this whole situation, you know, it's costing the word billions and trillions of dollars. You know, people losing jobs and people dying. If there's anything that we can gain out of that is that is not to take life for granted and you know, and live live at live happy and at the best of your abilities as you can. Yeah, and find find happiness, that find sustainable happiness right, not something that's predicated on our external world. So beautiful. I love it, tans, but just real quick, I just want to think. It is quite actually sat on Tick Tock, yeah, at a every place, but it was. It was. It was a turtle. It was actually a turtle, saying, and animated turtle, but it was. Is a true quote. I don't it sounds really weird, but basically the line goes, yesterday was the past, tomorrow he's a mystery and today is the present. You know who that turtal was. That was from say it again from the let's end on that. That was brilliant. Yesterday was the past, tomorrow is a mystery and today is the present, something along those lines. Yeah, and it was just I thought it was. It was really like it's pretty simple, but it was just some true I was like yeah, more always a mystery because I don't know what's gonna Happen Tomorrow. Yesterday was the past because it has happened, and today is the present because it's right now. So that's anything we know is right now we can definitively and that's the only way we should be leaving, which is a sad part, because we are often we're not. Yeah, who he's worse? It's all. Yeah, we're twenty five years young, boys, has plenty, plenty of great episodes and times to come. So, in regards to episode number thirty two, thank you guys so much for listening in. I'm sure there's a couple of old, faithful battlers that are still slugging away and for that one person that fought it out, the name of our podcast should have be the dubbies podcast. I don't appreciate you and I know where you live. I'm coming for you. But reless, it was this. Let's put this off camera. It is what it is. Sometimes the energy is not meant to be put in that situation. But now, Oljo, excide. We love you very much, terrence. Maybe the best episode we could have had was the one that nearly didn't happen at all. So took so many tries. Probably that's that's it. I boys say, yeah, but before we finish today, will think about a good just a good title for the show. But Anyway, and acted you want to wrap up with our with our old faith for mate and potentially sharing at any sponsors of the show. Yes, sounds good. Thank you for listening to the show. This has been the episode thirty two of the COLLABORATORIES podcast. We almost do that fifty and anyone who's been coming along for the journey, thank you so much. And at the has been couple of people who've been listening to the show released Ale and couple of mean comments. You know we own to you, so it just just watch out. What's your back, buddy? What's your back? This is been the episode thirty two and let's not forget, you can always download race and if you want to save money and check it out, check it out and ask us for the code. You can find us on Instagram, facebook and all the show socials above. You also listen to the cleavertime his podcast on our website, the clever dames podcastcom instagram, facebook, Youtube, as well as on steacher and all of the above podcast where we can procussing and once again, that people listening. This is been the clever dames podcasts, black wing and am us.

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