The Clever Dummies Podcast
The Clever Dummies Podcast

Episode 15 路 1 year ago

The CDP // Ep15: Where are we at with Covid-19? 馃┖

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In Ep15 of The Clever Dummies Podcast, We catch up on where we are at with the Coronavirus/covid-19 and some of the implications that have come to our attention. 

Stay safe,

Aneeqe A. Khan & Lachlan Inwood.  

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...reported on that they jumped on likethis, and they were like. You know this. They had finally made progress on theseconolvist vaccine and without reporting any of the any of the details turns out.They were saying yeah we can come ov with a bar ntvars. It's only going totake about three to four years. They forgot to mention that part andeveryones like this is great progress. The stocks Wri when cried up and peopleare buying their stocks, because if they came about money making rights and-and you know I was wondering- and I was thinking about it. This is what I saidto youthink today's toping. We could talk about how there's been peoplewhoh've been benefiting out of these global catostrophe right perse, becausethere'se people who have been benefiting at like a very high end,while everyone else did suffering yeah, Yeah N, and I'm not one of thosepeople who are saying that you know or n a net lix should't make money. Norshould Amazon, I'm fine with those people making money. I'm talking aboutthe people who are directly penefiting from conopius, for example, losepromaceutical companies and by releasing those media releases thingthey have Oln the back scene and then coming back saying they don't have thevaccine uor. At least they don't have the vaccine for another xmot views, andyou know, I think, that's kind of very sad. And then you have the media, whojust jumps on anything under the sun, that Yo get more eyes on their channels,a more clicks on their website without any sort of education or any a you know,any proper jounrnalism done so th, that's a whole situation. It's justlike scientific research to real journalism has to be formulated upon alarge collection of data and speaking to a lot of different people and thatsort of thing, but when the Business Mon Always Wan, it is now, as we'vespoken athout many times. That's where that shit comes in. When I I guess Iwas so atmost when I first heard about this on, I should have thought about itbefore I just didn't think about it, but everyone's you know people alwayscapitalize on it. A there's, a insogream account. I follow it's justcalled biolanes bio lane, l a yne, the guy's name is Lanbaugton. He' has PhDand nutrition competed Potiboder supersmartude and he breaks down a lotof like Nutritian um videos ar line of people pts coming on saying you knowsix week, ABS and dolthy sort of thing, and the first one I saw was from thissum. This really popular account come what it's called. He he's very heavyinto Kito, and he has this. His main video is like Um, it's like Creek Olympus Body orsomething like that, and he has like this massive mansion and Hi Supershredahe's got long, hair cut Ri, I labis, Ah yeahidobody Y as simple as that: YEAQino, Keno Kano, yea. That's right! Look at his page now, an you see. He'sgot no subsance anyway, tless another a difially o the story for another day.But yet he came out and said all these people diing because they're over weihtin a beast, you know get on the Kio. I lose your you know their insulence toohigh. You know, lose your insuler an lose your you believeer, particulary,ver and you're, going to be a case o straight away. He he's Capitaliz andI'm like. Oh my gosh. Well, obviously he's going to go. ECAUSE he's Anidioand he just sells out at one of he's going to pay money. But then I thoughtabout like how many different industries are based off that and yousaw it like. I guess. The most mfamous example in Australa was obviously thenews report. Real journalism was done on a people who, obviously, through aconnection in China, work buying a loa of baby former bying, a load of toiletpaper, a lot of like really essential itemns, that for a period of time wehad shortage disease and anlimited mess in which was almost crazy. To thinkabout. We spok ot that as though it's just it's just the worse than it was,and then I fought man like these people have done all that have gone and theshipid not just directly out of a stray where we need it, but they've sen it tothe place where this damn thing started. A D and obviously a mass that's made for thirty cents, amile in in in China, more likely more often than not probably made over therelike it's sold for a ridiculous amount of money now, and I justgo this is justthise should be like. Should there be laws on it like? I guess you have cradyfreedom and a lot of examples, but it is just it's just kind of a bit of aglimpse into the worst. Topy of Mannehe sometimes isn't just open to her eyeswhen it hits you in the face like that. Sometimes I it get my blyd boiling.That's for sure it is it', really fascinating. What you said is completely true thefact that there's no law to sort of hold media, and particularly you know, wh t,what's the name for it, it's called Um old school meeting, no there's a namefor it. I always mentioned the name. I keep forgetting the name for what doyou call the news, media and the protess support company Mor traditional,the dish, traditional Amasmedia as Onas INAREA. Yet one of the problems in Nasmedia isbecause the way they're reporting it...

...has they had lose, and we rememberlearning this in broadcast broadcasting, media law and stuff on how much wecould tell and what we could say and but we couldn't, but when they startedgoing online, is that when the lines started to blurall of a SALN, they could say so many more things that weren't particularlytrue and they're, not really utheard by any particular law on the Internet I'SNA govingbody. That's not a famor ad, or I like that, yeah and and on on following that, on top ofthat, the Internet has that Um Internet has this particular personality onbuiling up things that are that are, you know, not necessarilyhave a positive impact. So you know most of the time. If you see what'sglowing up on the Internet, is always something negative? U Know becausepeople like jumping up and down about things that are wrong with the oer andthereare some long trees, a real thing right now, Alen degeneroses in thecross, ais right now by. If you can hear about that, the cancer culture is a whole notherproblem. I mean that's a Ho. That's a topic for whole. Another episode ofepisode, but you know just want touch on that. There was one of the one of the comedians thatgot cancild Austrolia comedian, TDACO Cencil, and I was quite annoyed by itbecause I actually really liked thes stuff and they were saying Woll. He hada you know he put on a black face and what what I know Cimmy Fellon, it's oneof those guys with a gym. Jeffreese, maybe no jam Jafferine's always be He's beena way over thats the e Fing Tat guds, like Imilike,Adam Saynd. It's like you k touchy because he was the agbhe's Twenty YearsAgubr twenty year ene an et years ago, he's so far from the caseof culturethat Cany Apoteis, like es Aly, cancelled, O everything elses. What arYa here cancil again, it's the same thing with Bill Ber that he's anotherguy bill. Ber Hes, I don't know if you heard much a inzebe, I lii on o wor ve,hear tes obviouslys specials on net flix a little bit and o listen to alite, bihis pocast. He does now with brt crash. I think it's called just Bilan berer or something but he'she's yeah, exactly right he's just so true tonhimself. I enver seeing cleme o him in the nineties where he would go on likemorning breakfast television and he was talking about religion and thactually.Its a really good example. T might have been many med. Two thousands and thelady asked him why you sow a talk, should habout God oll. You Talk Shoudabout religion in your your thing like. Why is that and then he's like Wal? Ihave a sixty minutes set. I tell two jokes on religion. If you really wantto go down that rabbit hole, we can open up the rabbit hole and talk aboutfucking, the Catholic Church and everything else. But anyway I saw againwent down the rabbit hall there, but he's t that's kind of a strategy writeif you're going to be that person like, even though Isag butterfield he's agrat example in Astrayin Tex, to He's constantly on the front lines forUSBACKED soldiersletme Tryng, to put a the way that sort of thing, so I don'tknow like goods. Yes, that's another polo. I appreciate I sequatin love.What hes doing I think is quite funny is brilliant. You know, but at the sametime sometimes I do have. I have seen him get to you know too far as well, Yeh,but then I think M, I'm a fan. I would sem a fan. I'm mean Ye tot a comedybrothere's, no boundaries tol as long as you're, not an absolute Tik about atyeah and red coradanae weren't. You going to remember that he's a comedian.The funny thing is that we're canceling all these people who are comedians. Yetwe are not really betting, an eye out on people who are not particularlycomedian and still jumping up and down and doing things that theyare notsupposed to be doing. You know whether theye be in the public e or whetherthey are politicians or funking media per se and ther we're not reallyholding themoo any snager at all yeah Anistan. So it's kind of a doublestandar which which actually makes me wonder, is the fact is a load of that.Actually dried by the media is the agender that's pushed by the media,because if you really think about t against the culture, you look at whoisreally safeguarded from the cancel culture. You know its th, I the youknow once again, the Netwook t vs and all that stuff, one s, one Tesen yeah the one percentof the one percent and despite t like, despite the fact that how Ol the bigmovement happening in particularly the entertainment industry,in regards to me too movement that was that was fontastics. You know, but itdidn't really. It didn't really do a lot that makes sense in ener society itlikteother or somewhat cleaned out a corrupt and dirty industry, but it's affects on society still Armseemto be reasoned with, I guess or Wus, yet to really see roal change right aswell a Iyeh yeah. I hope we see a change on that Bu. Even if you gobackteber fifteen years, like gay marriage was only a fease ago, but Ithink T I was twenty. Seven in...

Australia, like this laxe atch upforeign concept, like twenty seven eight, and it's like mainly at threeyead like it's, it's absolut yeah, it'sabsolutely brilliant, like you think I guess Itis Etiilly n progress. I justwonder how much O in his natural progress of human kind and how muchmaking a difference, because we are trying to push for this change, whatTechnologi es thccelerated so much asa tat likeit's. It's definitely nosurprise that we're advancing like the way we are well. That's exactly that'sexactly right being able to talk to so many people. All of oort makes adifference and being able to push those courses, and you know the latestexample of that is uh. The push with the the whole pushed words global warming,starte from that Little Girl Greta, I think that's her name Edtnosi regranedO, I mean obviously, obviously very smart parents. You know you know broxsto little girl for being the face of it, but en my parents heey raise them anTelli, a kid to Shorrat an acquanting kid and you know obmioustly, very smart,usiness people as well. Ik Know How to market the Gendone, which is I mean ifyou know how to do that, and if you can don Ohat Elsei s going to do for a selfesteement. A FE is thou to give someone, even though I loved her message to keepso and that so, and I guess that's how rufless the Internet could be, but togive someone that sort of platform and yeah it's just it's- I don't know Idon't know about, and then it kakes away the interet takes away inter itdoesn't Kre it dumps you in a day it's undernated te as Tey Sayyeah. You knowit may give you the fame they give it. You know, put you on the impatin likethe top of the fame chain food chain and then the next day, wip you down toabsolute. Nowhere, no yeah an fair. You know one day, your Britaiy spas fromtwo thousand, an the next Dayyu ESPAC on o thousand seven yeah. That's right, yeah same can be even Te. Justan baby,obviously kin west, like king connection, O Somany examples of e Tat,F, Therou, nothe, Andjustin Davis, was really interesting. Cause he's onlysauht the order than U and it came around the time that we were his age.Like he's, I think he 's born in ninety four, so we were in yeurate an ye nineand he was really popping off Andso. We kindl got to see that from ow. I guessfirst, an experience being you know that age and of that era and to seewhat he's doing with himself now is, is really called that he went thrusandFaim from deep water. So that's the only prob Tecansi the somiy problemswith, but that's the main thing man like if you, if someone does somethingbad enough to say, ok, you can't be working for this company anymore. Idon't want you as to representive, I totally understand, but weve got to just be careful ruiningpeople's careers. We got to be careful doing that sort of thing because, likeif someone does do a black face when they are a teenager and they're fortyyears old, now and society that at that time in history, U wasn't so ere, wasn't such an issue forbetter or for wors, and people were doing it very consistently ontelevision and that sort of thing, so I I'm still very even oi'e to some of thethings even about Ellen that I've heard an not bored but at the same time likeshouldnt, she really lose her job, like I think, if you live in a world likethat man, thats, dangerous and that' t- that's maybe what's Cobet has broughton. Maybe that advancementen, maybe cobe sped that sort of thing up. I meanconcel cols Isit existine for a while, but it's Um ye it starting to get nastynow, which it always has IA. I don't think it's fair. I don't likeansoculture in that sense, because I remember Kavinhar got acfrom the POB. What was it call Academyo? What Oscar, Amyis Ove Jisyea Wasscaz Academy, was O Gol. I was area happy about theDere Bin, the reason being when he said something you know back. Then he was acompletely different person. Just like how in Australia came married. U Onlybecame legal, you know two thousand and seventeen before that. You know nowit's just normal. It's m his alsoing comedian and he was also saying at in acertain context and he said it at a certain period of time and that I wascertainly not meant to cause offence. Obviously that doesn't matter if yousay something you have to live up to it and he apologize, but then the Situatonwith that Wer twos they kept wanting him to apologize and that Ley. If hetalked about it personally, like this opportunity to hostyoskas that's whative dreamt Itout as a kidlike. This isn't just a cree aspiration. This islike Wat me and my grandma can't share an experience of this B'cause. We usedto watch this together and then that happened and I'm like yeah ftis anthat's. Why as why? They were the lowest ratings ever this year, becausepeople re just like noises nalsons, Ba Hego, Ad Ey, say yeah he's the best rkanother giding it fromin with like the likes of Jim Jeffreys and the bill birs o man and he's literally made up filmcareer of himself. He just directs his own movies and produces him now, andthese inculan Gord DRIPN and the ags. The camculture is when you attack kindof person, the cancoculture can't really touch you bega. Yet youhavilutlly created a whole industry around you, so y n American you'redoing you're being a good person of vast majority for time as well. Ifsomeones to Dick, you know there...

...dekipsans a good person, we're allhuman beings, you can cut them, some slack, that's what that's what's sodangerous about the cancel coal shop but Um yeah again, I'm just rehashing when Isaid BEFO Hon with it. I actually had a few week other day, and I was talkingto one of my househets and I was saying hey so few years ago, at a Halloween party Ipainted my face as wipe for as a Germanya Rigtan. I woal saying: Okay:does that mean thate was racial approcriation, the culturalapropriation, because I Havnihi infut right? I was evening applaer I dressedup. As you know, I painted my face white face O, isn't that racis and likeno? It's not racist, because you're punching up, I'm like Wote pockeryootelling me that I'm punching up nosoke races, Pat Maet wite. You knowwhat I mean: Yea TV Tik, a what I mean e Jut, Ol myhe was Staringhe, didn'tthink any good, but you know pr INTOCI and cancer culture, it's okayto pain, your face white. My problem is: Why is it okay, if it's no a oop or me?Okay for white person, te painted face black because black face? Why is itokay for me to paint my face white as and dress up as a joker, because thatshould be coyour appropriation beculd? But then, if you say that, if it's youknow performance and culture, cultural appropration doesn't apply because I'mpunching up. That means you Saing, that I am supprissed N Saing, I'M NOT YMEAN!You are being racist. You know I feel like we need to even the plan fail days out there II. If Iam Racist, I should be canceledsame thing: wiit'sthat's'yeah, that's the old aage man. It doesn't its t whatMart litthe king said. We shouldn't be judged by the car Raskin, but thecharacter Vor, our heart. You know- and I guess I guess the play not devilsadvocate, but to provide a different perspective to that one. You can obsoydiscuss the history, the long winded history of oppression for the you know for theAfrican American community in particular, where a lot of you knowwhere Hollywood is based in a lot of sensors within that culture. Sir,that's the big example that we all kind of hear of him. You know they hadhundreds of use of slavery, so you can say hey. You know we kandle theirwayround, because we didn't go through it, and I understand that too, but at the other day the qualities, aquality in to be e, we have to treat each other equal. So if Yor, if you dosomething, and even if you're, having a laugh, if people find that offensivefor them, just don't do it got a work by size. Doesn't t fi s tat we eenhough to distinguish itma'am, but at the same time Tan yo W I havent it's Um. A lot of people stillneed to, because you do still talk to a lot of people who have, they might say,jokes O and I'm not saying this Ta House, man he's a good dofrom. You toldme, but I've known people who I lifed or ne World Anyway, and then they saidsomething as a joke in a you know, very light and non hardedway Bymi all foryou to say that, like so, it's definitly a real thing, but I wouldnever be obracism to tice like that's no chance, but we have to. We just haveto be smarter. That resolution like a cantoss, be IKK. We have to suppressthese people dow and bring these people Ouf. It doesn't work like that. 'causethen you're, just hisry apparing itself. We can bring thise people up withoutbutting an other people. Ter Education is beautiful, e Liin te playing fields.Yon Onaducation is the way to go education, forot education, an lete foltromblon that sackin Tad little signat day. A was well O educationl, froshatd Aall long enough msomeone, steaks Somthingstin, O pop a have to bring you back to the croner ofour situation now talking about. Obviously, we know that Chronolistarted in China and with let's talk about what China has been doing, what'sbeen what o pent busy doing: Wy China, China Oly. I understand that this isyou now. This is. This is a dangerous territory, because you know China Kinocontrols a lot, but El Lot, O Chinese people out there to Mite Trade Lart la yeah, that's exactly right and nothingagainst Toese people like Kinese people, rihe NORACIS A bay, but it's it's it'smore. So the government structure that I have things IGEs Er Amos, so they gowi while Evrthe Word Brest ofthe world has been suffering because conowie started in China and then andthen they basically headed from the whole pintire word just ten Li Cheepinobe ten seconds. I notice when before when I was talking about like notputting down China, but when I was saying things negatively against Thina,it felt like all his treading on waters that maybe as been dangerous, like I'm,trying to put everyone together, but we have to be clear that when we'retalking shit about China, we're talking about their leaders and ththeththe way,they live way. They structure their politics, not people. I just want tomake that clear for shore hundred...

...pecent notmingans Chine people. Youknow it's really very hard to didiffentiat between that. But thenagain it's like w. We Talk Shit about trump, were answer our mex and SR onagain. But then again, some Americans are complete pig ats, an idiot we canoar about thote people year, because especially the ones that WHO Saythis isAmerica. Why do I need witewike? Why can't I have gunes shop, the Fackur, so that's a whole other St, likeanother ot he one I buttalking about China, witeNotok, my Chinese people talking about Chinese government and how thestructure works yet so they started they hated from rest of the word andbecause China is so closed op and there were some people who were disappearing.They were literally doctors who disappeared. There were people who werewhistled lowers, disappeared and some people, you know all of a sudden, come it suicide tothis the ewaghat before. Yes, they had a D. I don't know how much uinciencethis is. They had over twenty milion active uses, Um stop using theiraccounts, Um Blake sort of round February over twenty Millon oightactive users here, so that couldn't Ese te glading all the counts, I'm sore,but like that's, there's no way the numbers of what they are like. I don'twant to get into the conspiracy game, but that's one that I would dig deepfor for sure. There's no way, there's been three R: Four thousand dats likethis, that's just one hundred bu one hundred percent. I mean you look atokay, let's look at the kronowise case, Ntbo t overnment Themoalo, like HeaOrganization, Bely Cho, usually they've got it all laid out pretty well thedifferent countries and regions and that check on India too. I know that one ton,two two Goo, not a longe. I haven't seen their numbers for aw o. You knowconfirme cases of China Toal, eighty four thousands semne thousand of them,who recovered only four thousand, a six hundred and thirty four deaths which,and you know they only had hundred and twenty seven new cases. So fobat. Itseems like even the China's population, because now you gotta remember that whole Curv,th Kn w everyone saying flat in the curb- is actually a pretty poor, prettypoor statement or pretty poor way to showwhat the number of the casees, because you gotta remember- that Ad Latin occuryeah. It's not really taking into account the amount of people, pocapital, it's only going of how many cases that's coming up. So all of asudden ma where it seems like Australia, Australias Cubb, is really high. Um.You know. Still this coer is pretylow, or you know Chinescovery's lawyer,because you know, even though they like first of all, their car is really lowand we know taking into account the fact that when you have on hundredandtwenty seven cases Pur population that they have the China has that'slike nothing. That's whthat Polu, so Refr Waar, you valwing that problem SoeNo yerel about esing a let do one orten Melbourne has just just Oto put that inprospective MELBOULN has six million people, and I pre shore. China hasuppos O brillion people, you know, must fe like NTA cases, Ane I', like thatright n en a Albun Co. Well, you know today, Melboin has six uner cases, yeahand China Hade Ne Hundred and twenty seven. The whole country had hundredony co cases they are just put in PROCV. That's a whole nother oud like they'vesolved the problem. They've got it ower done with. What makes me wonder is what makes mequestion the whole se situation is the fact that Holwis, how did this old wiestart, and particularly in this place, iu n China, where everyone is so putlike you know, squeezed together and the population is humangess and if thevice is spreading so crazily up here in Ou, know Melwin or anywhere in estrolaneverywhere else. How did they get Awey the problem? So quick? So that's whatmakes me wonder. Maybe they did engineer the wires, because now thattheye's Ov the problem, while everyone else is suffering in the R economiesare taking the dive? China is busy working while everyone's focus was away.They took over Honkol and put inputing new yeah punning new laws in place, andI can't remember exactly what low it was, but I remember reading about it. It was something to duby that they canprosecute any any friend who is originating from homecone. Doesn't matter, Whar theor doesn't matter, wh way that the city sat all. So that's crazy. So if I weet a person whose parents was from Hong Hongand I live in Australi- something I don't know, EXAC law, so don't cout meon it, but it seems like they can. Prox prosecute me despite the fact on a MMostrolan citizen Yeahyep, that's just insane! Isn't it and that's M. that'skind of like probably as deep and that's that's kind of conspiracy is the easy word to use, butits not a conspiracy, and I guess that's the angle that people are goingto want to look at once with Kino Pastis, because it's really hard toinvest a lot of time and money and rasours into the issue of what thesituation that's going on in China, how easily they've recovered from it andeverything else while you're going for it. You've got obviously figuring outyourself, but I think that's something...

...we're really going to look back on andI'm sure there's going to be some Mayou just hope. It's nothing catastrophic,but there's going to be some real changes to the world, particularlypolitically and you've alry. You can already see it a little bit with m howhow easy it is to get certain productsin and out of China andAustralia like Y nalready that', it's Aly, starting happend, SI theyrealready started. Withdraw Astray became a part of that M, not sure I wouldn't say itlegalproceeding, but it's government investigation are into thehandling of it in China, so that it'll be interesting to see what happensthere. But undoubtedly t shady is D. do you think it's more wh? What's your heart tell you about it.Do you think it's m? Do you think it was the engineer over there? Do youthink they they filled it around with it more than they're living on. I think there's definitely somethingmore going. ONS INANA, it was if there is a fact that China is nottesting, not even Boderin daspery UNHUMANE, the unhumane right to theiown people write if China is not even testing andthey've still got the problem, that's pretty inhumane, but something termnsme thes more to the stor, and there has to be because how could a country likeChina, who is doing exactly what they're doing and have a hundredfromseven cases in a day in such a huge population where, in a prpar countrylike Nalban, which is all Lii, I country like Australia and a place likeMelbourne is, you know, is struggling, so it really makes you wonder, and youknow China doesn't have the resources we have n. They do in in in a weird way,but they don't w. They don't have. A scale of resources is because let me Po this way. China is doingexactly what America was doing twenty years ago, but they're doing it better,because they know they've learned from America's mistakes Y, a so they're, notbilling it out there they're, not they're, not what the? U S took pridein Oos vote like vocalizing their control in their power, whethe Chinasdeinitly, theso they're, playing th they're, playing they're playing a homeofthe game which is which is problematic because right nowthe whole word is suffering. So it just makes me wonder: Is it possible thatthey could have ocustrated tit all so that's definitely a question I mean I hate to be the conspiracyst, but itjust makes you wonder it. I mean it's a question: It's a proposed question thatdo you think that is possible that China had something to do with thecreation of cornowises, because now that I look at what China's going nowbased on what the rest of the world is going Tfrom, you look at America, menthere, theyare so teyre. So far. Bon I mean they had like. Let me think of thecases in America right now, yeahyeah. Those is Tet, obviously verymuch clear to be the highest in the world. Now, that's why I was curious tosee arm if India had that sort of escalavor to that level. On aven caseBa case, I think they've got well over me and tow an like e flander aline inCalifornia alone have Soron of the nited states. United States has gotfour point: Four Poi five fi millions, caseandthey haveing. You know roughlyaeraging at sixty sixty eight thousand case, sixty five thousand cases, aDayyeah and you know they've gougt. A hundred and fifty four thousand debtsI'd be interested to see how many tests have done. There's a Looki remember how Longa was I was listening to. I waslooking ot th son. I can remember his name on Rogans potcast and they lookedat a cupl of jowls in the US and they saw that the percentage it makes thathad it ad a couple of certain jails, new hot spot areas or states werereally hihe. So th they're thinking with the amount of people that aregetting in that sort, O ituation- that estimates of how many people wouldactually have it would have to be ten ten fol ethemagine the amount of peoplethat just don't want to get tested or don't Nete, get tested or just havenlike you'd. Think that number would have to be a lot higher. Well, that's exactly rih, and it justmakes you wonder how many more people have it, because at the rate of whichthis is spreading, the point as you like the wholesituation is DENGLC. It's like anything like when Ilook at that China situation. Like any situation, you have to be rationalabout it. If you think about like a movie, the difference between Tha, goodand a bad movies, the ones that can piece things together and if there's ahole missing. If there's a plot home you see. Well, then the movie's goingto be Shi. It's the same. I, if you look at this situation, thina likethings just don't at up man like this it those gaps like it just doesn't. Itjust makes you wonder M it turns you into a bit of food conspiracy thears,because of that like it just doesn't, it doesn't add up. Well, that's exactly right and you knowI know a lot of Australians are pointing fingers at Astraliangovernment. I mean look what most governments are doing the best they canbecause they're not really much as I. I want to think that mostgovernments are trying to stay away from political agenda as much as it'shard. You know it's almost impossible, not to you kN W itit's almostimpossible to do that, but they, I feel...

...like they're, trying their best M andbecause keepin mind most of these government or political leaders. Thekids live in the same country, so you got remember Na Yo know they're,not really, I like to think most people aren't evil.Um. I think at people are just not you kN w.most people are just dumped. That fact most people unable but is do thosepeople gravitate towards politics lap? Is there a higher percentage than theregular popisation in some of IPOLOGICES? That's exactly right. Imean, I think it makes sense. Often people who might be you know who mightmay have a more of a devious personality. MANIPULATI MAIPLATApersonality may lean towards such rules in power and may see a got more power.I guess that would make sense. So so, just looking at some of the stats,so you've got U S at. Like. I said four four millions. Four point: six millioncases total debt, an hundred n Fenty Five K, Um you've got total recovered,which is pretty good active cases. Total test done in America is at fifty seven million test, okasaysfiftysevenmion. Out of how many did he say, four point: Five e've got it yeah eahYe y, I mean that's still: gree intent, yeah most definitely most afly, soyou're, just trying to average that across t the crauntry Soif there'sthree hundred and fifty men, people that live in the US. You know you couldguess anywhere from thirty five to fifty million people that have it, butyou actually wouldn't when Youre expelenyredical yep the best way tolook at it is death. Byr, a million people ye a million people is for? U Sis four hundred and sixty nine people pronering people, and that's that'swhere that flord system is with the Kurb, because it doesn't take inteconsideration. The total amount of TA IFYOO EECERTAIN STATE, I'm like it's,not just a country thing like that. Such a big country N, unlike a straywaysizewise, be similar they've got so many different little hots woks andovosy bag cities, but also little cities as well like thei and of fiftyeight eights o Bot. A hundred and fifty thousand little places you know so,there's Somany more chances. You know you're, not GOINGO, L OUT P on litleroom, I don't think but Omi, I maybe that's a plan fo ESA Idon. Ithink it's important to keep in mind that American population is undereducated as well. Yeam, fo they're, not very um they're, not very sebvy. WhetherAustralia has a much more educated population, and I don't necessarilymean how many people Perec capt have complete of high school. I just meanthey've got you know ter, I say Australia. People just have more commonsense, it's just because how America has it's 'cause America had really goodluck in the earlier years. So ther people didn't really need to use commonsense or hardwore fes. They just had SOE on People Samaes temen they wee,they were afraid to people. You know people talk about how bad the Englishmonarchy were and some of the things they did with the? U S I mean they hadcivil war in their own country for a reason like they were just you knowvenomous. They just didn't care. Well, that's exactly right, so America hashad few good years had some golden yes, but behind it, which is why Americanpopulation is probably not that seavy that why you see all the carens comingout of PNGA Malto, exactly even think about like the education system overhere man like if you you almost absolutely have to go to year. Ten, ifyou don't ever your n, a situation where you live in a housing situationwhere you've had to be removed from your parents or you're. Really, youknow not doing the best all there's some few examples of people that toshew something at that age, but you have to go to Youten at least beforeyou can leave over there. I don't think that's the case. I don't think there'sas much. I mean there's, obviously a lot more people too, but I don't thinkthere's the same sort of pressure to be educated even to e you,ten level, men like I min, not Saim as March Bak, you could deatifilly tellthe difference. You know what I mean, so it's Tricku it's a trip, but I thinkthat's got to do be part of it. It's just yeah. The quality of the educationa'm shore is the same yeah and Um. That's right. I I I dothink I do think it's a lot to do with it or a lot to do with the fact that ithas that common sense, sort of scenario.That's missing American population because, like you think about the wholething about just not een understanding the gun, you know yeah yeah man, t theyre strong,struggling to understand the whole gun law situation, lettlon anything else,so it just makes you realize that where thei heads are at so and obnously knowbit about the constitution over there too, I'm sure yes, like that, we haveritten. I think it's the second amendment that all all citizens havethe right to thei. ARARBS, but that's you know, obviously based ona time where the only way you got stuff done was by physically. You know goingthere and freatening solike that violence was a real frigging issue likeit was a real thing and that lot of...

...their life and a low of their policiesthet rationalis. Now it's in the amendment. You can't touch it ball,dude that was ringed at a time where Illiteraly it was written for faverinsof Inli Wer Gonta is twent a twenty. Now Baby, let's get roll in an, I think,that's part of why they as they they rank like they're, really going to comeout of this stuff more than any other big country like this is ther with Oteiseme as much honesty on what the do and right. That's exactly why I thinkam the country that has suffered the most in this whole scenario is no one,is a by Farte Maiste and not as fusily clam it the numbers, but in terms ofthe and they obviously had M, they had the protest and everything going too,but that's unfortunately, almost been put aside just because of how just adecline of their overall their population and just their culture likeits Tath. You know it's Tom, you look at you look at once again. You look atthe kind of cases that's coming out of there and look at they lookout, lookdown laws and all that stuff I mean you know you Gotto, show your Newso on you look at what has m you know our premie down here in Melbourne, tewestarted in Marchpr, I locke own started. In March. We had less than ten thousandcases in the country. They saw a spike, they acted over there obiously thepolitical system is different, but they didn't wait until about the same time,but there coron of Iris start is sprinding three months earlier. So,like the and now Theyre Li, like trump deffiny, the blame for it too, but nowthey just can't even get anything past everything in par of it gets pushd backbecause there's the Democrats and those an pulics. We have the two money systemover here, but there's just so much like and that's where a lot of them,that's where most of the bullshit stems from his politics and somly people einvested in it and thator theywas like Er Olin, devoid for education in alotof ways they weren't taught these things. This common sense, when apoliticians saying these things are promising you this and that- and youshould kind of know like hey. Maybe this you can't really deliver on that,because it doesn't work that way. People don't know because they're noteducated enough. They they didn't, they didn't go through enough schooling orthey was you know they werl Folcseo on the wrong things. That's the problem,maybe with Hollywoood a little bit Ollywood it's its own entity and Idon't want Ta Thothe Day man. I Love Min T V and I love my movie, So I don'twant tot. Always be wack and Hollywood like there, a mat like without themlike there's so many great experiences in life that you can base off that sortof culture, but to base your fabric, the fabric of the the nation of a lotof that sort of thing it'sm. It obviously shows it shows kind of it's atough lesson for them to learn. Well, that's exactly right. I mean you poketo American people online and they just don't understand see. But once again Ifeel like I'm, I'm oncgoing TA getting too much people a o s to say I'm not Imaybe geurnralizing here I don't want to Gannelize, but I'm just talkingabout you know there are people out there who e America jumping up and downbecause they want they have to wear mask. You know I mean then againthere'se people in Austroly, they're doing and thes Ay people, people likethat o everywhere, but I think there's just probably more in America becausethe population is peaker. I don't know what the reason is, but it just seemsto be the case now. Moving on from that Amy India has talked about India, itscalled one point: six, four Liion ACIS and they're averaging at you know so:they've got thirty. Five thousand debts and they've go total recovers, verygood and their daper million people is that's. Actually no bad. That's wher,twoe millin people is twenty six. I no we'R on a it of a bad trend for whale.So that's good to hear that numbers, maybe bottom e out or on thetop of it.They seem to be in a country. That's a lot more willing to work together thanthe? U S, that's for sure wol that is everywere, but then again their teps are tol PESSPO. So theirtolatat is, I mean not incredible. Thei Tol test is one eighteen million. Therare nothing toyear, that's very lipesclitous, Haton Lis, family deathsand cases have not been reported. In that situation. Bor th a Raoid, I meanthey're still trying. I guess that Yo gotta cubit to them, but you know thenagain they hay. She ays well. Yetindred on tevo share similar sort ofstructures. They have obviously a very prominent and strong lower class. Theyhave a very prominent and strong upper class, but they don't have that middleclass that the Uran a lot of English ar most. Not? U K, countries pretty mucheven island and us over here in Ion. So many countries in the world have thatmiddle class that for so many reasons, CP keep thatsociety and helps separate that divide and people caning get along a littlebit better. But when you've got such a I gap in it', that's whate, it becomesdifficult wheres. I think it chinae communism promotes that in India, Tustsheerly, so many people, it is just whel they shoul a en I on fortally, Imean Y, you in India, obviously hardworkes. I think. Oh you just wantthe lotery, that's how it is and the same thing like in Packison Wat. It isas Wong so talking about and then moving onthat got Brazi at h too manytimes, O tungle presiy like Thour on the US. I think yeah, two point: Sixmillion pe two point: six million cases,...

...second in IU, O second highest numberof cases. Ninety one phousend thats, which is more, which is more per, Ithink, that's yet so awe no, it's not more than payer Yehad to actually blow U s but keepingPrre as blue ou s. It sat four thirty, four hunred andthirty Mi. Four hundred and thirty decks py a million people and then theyhave done. They have conducted total fifteen tor million TESK. So once again,poor a poor affoon how many tests they've done, but then Agi. I guessthis all resourcing! That's when it comes down t yeah! That's what I come down to so look! Youknow you look at all these numbers and now I want to see what number of Chinais at, but on Numbe, like a number of Eby and e everything else, Havin had acover. Swab done at all. Have you had a test done it all I haven't had done. Iremember they cast monyosman. I was very e at ance of going together Don,but someone said you only need to get a you have to get it Don. If you havesymptoms, said Awiter Yeah. Otherwise they turn your way because you have so many people drowing up toget tested, that's right and also, if you're, a symtomatic Um. Your essentially don't pass the virusdown, because it's just not a living organism in your body anymore andthat's that's been shown through mortal stulies as wore, and that was tho bcontroversy behind keeping kids out of school thougheworried about kids, transmitting it and fhankfully m a imagine. This was athing that really started and you never know what can happen. This thingis onlydiing and move so much. But imagine you know children were on that sor o listlike that. Probably would change a lot of people's attitude too, but that's a good thing about this ware asanywayas that, if youaasymdomatic, so it is present in your body, but it'snot it's not causing you any harm, then youyou're, probably not going to spread it to anyone else. So that's why they'reusally not just make an avise. Everyone would just get some one in the May. Iimagine, like hat therl, be that much supply and e man fright. You figure itout. I guess maybe 'cause, I know there's a few days. That's the onlyproblem with it. Still now s you've got away the day or two to find out results.If youcl get a quick test, Ho that'LD probably help a lot more people go andget it done to. If you could find out in twenty minutes, O go, have a coffeecome back and you know then thatp probably not going to have the coffeeecause Youve got it o be over Ri Ite Hous go for a Wal. I Shall Av walk on thebeach, but all that a top. What are you thoughts on closing beashes, careful,Ci Cam I mean I might be maybe taking awayhistolian right say I mean it just doesn't look. I think weshould just do what's required to keep each other safe Y H. I mean it's reallyshitty I mean I would like to be at the gym, because I think gyms are essential.I keep saying that because I think gyms are related to mental healt like in t eAtleast for me and exercise man. The extefie is messively related to youknow. I guess, when you're closing down everything else, it can make sense, roclose ther gyms down as Warl, but you know I just in new southwell in Sydney,Theye they're, closing down the twenty four hours gyms to onle function, doingstaffhous or something like that. The FIRTPERSO I'm in human history,where Um mchurches so places where people can practice have religion, ourpractice, religion having closed or temper enclosed, and there hasn't beena direct war from that of direct conflict. It's happening theMiddle East that happened throughout history, where you Tok People's m rightto practice, religion, freely away, and then things blow up that happen. Civilwar as well, sir, that's pretty interesting, and that's becauseeveryone kind of realizes this is a thing that we all just need: asacrifice: a little bilong and wyonly argument with the beaches. One yor inthe sun, theres in heaps of peaps, that's been said about cover not doingas well in the sun. That's not so much of a great argument: 'cause you're kindof in the sun everywhere, but you're in the elementary in the environmentsyou're directly on the heat. Anyone who lives or goes on a beach and knowss ourHeot to see in can get that's tefhily on too, is you? Can it's a very easyplace to socially isolate and B one poit, five meters away from people t's? You know it's such a large surfacearea and three, it's just. It should just be like anywhere else. If you'reable to go to the shopping center, which I know is essential to, I thinkbeaches should be made. Shoul should still be aloof, Yoopen, because for meit's more common sense than anything. Then you can go there and not be nearother people oviouly. Then people would have to come in and watch and make surepeople are together at the end of the day like I am never gone to, and thisis kind of I guess where my divide will come into it is I I I'm not gongto. Letyou take way you that you can never let anyone takeaway all rights, and you mught say it's just a beachman, the beachis more thanjust a beach. So that's where I cind of Foi foot down a little bit. I agree I get w where you re, comingfrom. My only concern is, is what if the beaches were originally open, ifyou remember, but what happened? Was People just flocked to the Batin Os'cause Te Ang? That's open right, yeah,...

...a little bit of a prose, an a Consyehand that's coblematic, and I feel like gasprogematic, and I feel like when yousay it's: Okay for only some people, it's never going to reach to somepeople I's going to be everyone going to the beer. Becus e have the onlything to do and, like I said before, B in many previous episodes, it's I feel,like a lot of people, think that we are very unique and I feel like I wanna. Ijust really believe that all of us are way similar than we actually think. Butwhere is the Hiler? It's weutiful, Ani C Yeyeah. I can assure you to me- and You wellyou and I know because we think a like, because we have fleft aver your friends,but the person next to me doesn't think that different from what I do, you knowwe have the same needs. Wehave same psychologically, you may think thatYoure special, but you knot because Imsprecton so your specials. Everyoneis special so that meats noon special. So that's that's a really interestingway. So that's what I'm saying so Wen the beach or everyone did the same Nandfor me. Also like the beach and the gym are not the same thing. If you're goingto have levels of restrictions and lock down like M, if you're going to takeaway being allowed to go to the beach like a real basic freedom like walking,the street you'Veyou've got to show me more thanfour hundred and fifty people por me an passing away from it like that might be.That might be harsh and that might sound crazy and I don't mean going ovennight clubs. Don't get me wrong, but I would be a little more reluctant. Wewould not want the numbers to get to that stage, but if the numbers did getto Thai stage, because it was found that all these people getting stick anddying from going on the beach, then maybe that's the case y to me- have acontroversiy one. Because then it's like El Hey we're in the preventionbusiness. We want to stop people getting sick of cause, but Y, and youcan't you just have to go through. You have to be a student of historysometimes and go back through throughout history and seeing whenthings have nwhen control has been taken out way from the people at neverreally goes back, and this is obviously different example, because it's avilout virus. That's killing people m across the world, but I think just beep down like this kindof one thing that I I'm even if I'm a little bit irrational with it, it's jiskind of like one of those things where I'm pretty pretty. I im willing toargue most people with it, even if they're more educatidg than I am imwilling to play the common sense card with that one. I thought get where youwere coming from and Ito othing to a men, W Asoeaing at out of the House,Yon Othink ithink. Well, if you're going for a walkish Ol to go to thework probi and I feel like where you live, probably should be find Wu, beoleoinage I's, different Stoask, so iited Stori, but I feel like if you didthat in Sydney I do feel like that would have been problematic, yeah yeah,I sa you know Bunny Bondo beach like the first day they sai people, don'tgather, we don't want to ban it, but we just can't pet and then the next dayforty thousand people- it's like you absolutely ibistls nowit's, like tamper,so of those people would have been there to get their last wimming ecause.They knew what was going Ta Happen Sore Nining Sena People. There does Dorkshi anywayat's, O Joaton cont. I like contove, opistoowesat R,Ta e Beautiful Pan here in Malbourne, so the government has said put on thefucking mask because Therre Leso chances are you'll, spread. LesserWares. If you have a mass corn, which is kind of common sense Bo, it makessense- and this this lady and in fact fewpeople have jump up and down, have sort of abuse, police and abuse staff atdifferent places and saying well, they'r not going to put on a massbecause they have tet their right as a person to not wear Mar. Now I do have aproblem with that is because my prom miththatist, what Wright like what o you? How isthat affecting any of your human right kind of situation? You know, I think, if anything, you're impactingyou're, the one whois actually should be. In fact there I say I would labelthem as a terrorist or actually les Lok it Crazy S. blowing Tesu, orithink teuorism isactually something it was something to do. Othis Wote, wat bill terrorism,then like terors, a word is so strongly embeddedwith emotion. Think I think the word terrorism comes from terribly gepart e, Os intehemation, I'm not exactly sure, but something todo with dangering or threatening social structure, or something like that. Yeah. Here, woe go got t here so just on on good old fashioned, Google,the unlawful use of violence and intimation, especially againstcivilians, inte pesuit of political aims. That's terrorism, that's more ofthat's more of a social meaning than an actual egit meaning of the word. That'snot addictionar MEEX, but yeah. It's it's causing harm to other people whichForif you cough on soone's, facemen,...

...you're going to get arrested like so Iunderstand the mast thing for short, fo shorts and- and I guess Ha I meanthat's. Why thing Gugi like that's Pr, you know so they're being prettydangerous. They so an they're jumping IT UPMI! My L, you know my rights andstuff, so that's kind of a n a whole dodgy situation, not talking, but I'vegot a question for you and Acua Ist wont to mention. I don't know if you'heard about three women women who snuck into Melburne and U knock back intoPoonclan and started the conovice there again and light like to the cobs out enroid Sally, I oite Ho re pacingfive years possible fires joke yeah. What do you think about that yeah? Soplay it out for me a little B little bit more detail, but I think I knowwhat you're saying like. I think I've E I've heard this one, but wh wh t what twat HA. What did you do so three girls from Brisman, I think they're fromBRISMA. I don't know the complete story, because, like Y, U Kno, N othe mediadoesn't really tell the complet. I Yeh, O, I said well, is Montho, say Mintesthey in business motelis catching up with them. That's exactly rig runningout of money rougly. I think three girls, somehowfor some for some old reason, manage to sneak into melbourn. Don't Fuckin knowwhy? Because whe would you come fro? Lomen, there's nothing going on. Youknow so I mean Mamma's. A beautiplay beautiful place only come here whenthere's no chonoviis come here, but then n there's Nok Orneis at the moment.There's nothing going on. So they came here. They mustnime and shamethese girls even e. So this is the daily Maldo DTCO or throughnewsdockombo E use. This is not directly off us, but misess ZOZDEZEC, inacoli, Stevens Teguy like Doman, continue, sir, is that going under antidiscrimination? What is it called M? DETOMISSION law? Maybe, but I justoffloaded it to daily Mai. So it's all Tyah. Those are the two girls. It'sbeen repore on the media, so it's not hidden thing: oeset, Theys snock into Melbourne and Im, notowo the story. So don't Cot me on the story, yet the pointingn they were inMelbourne and they yt the corner Wyas. They went to Sydney and then suck intoquonsland from Sydney Sominto, brisman yeah and they like they lie to onBordersic Bordero Securi and all the Ta Wey They B in and all that SOE SNHAMand now they're facing possible five year prison time because they haveactually spread the virs. Do I think, two or three people million yeh an howman you justthat does that go from there that tell they start is Atal Y. II saw it a few times like I saw the fimes. I saw possible Jaitim, I didn'treally for Teese. What are you going to have to just go around and coughingpeople's faces and the superbanks Ti get a time? Obviously you would deservit bui think this is a situation where you know to say they, God to Jai. Imean that's hard depends exactly what they did. We would actay have to knowmore specific spush. I Woud a hundrrercent that this is a criminalact if you're in te pandemic, if you're going to one state lying to otherpeople going back to another state and you've shown that you're not just goingto do it once and maybe you needed to see a relative or you can make somebollshit up say sorry, I need to see this person now you'V, you've just doit,because for the lolls like Aus, you wanted to so I think yeah. You knowwithout ob, going into too much details. I think these girls are in some realtrouble, especially with bloody carstep and Evegona, the blody, the news host.That's what I saw on the page. So I think, that's that's probably efinexample where these these guys thatl probably get shone an example of twolike that happens in these other situations, where you threaten. Youknow a panalty for a certain thing and people, particularly in e time likethese, where there' Jus, so many people affected by it. I think you've got TA.You've got to face some sort of remications for sure. Even communityservice, like Y CA, to be slap in the wrist of that one. They they're going to make example, OAntibi have to beuit ter. The point is: If you look at it, and- and this iscoming from a melpent person who is living in Melban, why would you go to aplace thats? You know suffering just only to what would you go intoacquarantine soon, so yo only to go back to a place like if you, if you'refrom liceband who's, just been enjoying life there? Why whywho you know whitebother and it it' yeah, that's pretty problematic,soasoung iyt Belbarn, then that changes the story. Then y? U Theonder, T FANINGIS. No, then Queensingo left Aiin, Sayy es they cross. The border twice soI'd, imagine TNEAR, Thos, Victorian Queens learning twice. Does young t young Li Ome Machi theyinvolged about it like Imentione, they just pumped it an they say I would crte. I gethine talking about loging talkingabout tum criminals, right hero tes for some people who are stillunfortunate enough to have snap Chad...

...e location set on they'e. Looking at Toso unfortunateyenough to have snapped an you would know that on snap chat you can you canbrowse the map and see the hot spot area where activity is going on so in Victoria, because Victori thinlocked on the was just browsing it and you just saw a whole bunch of peopledoing whole bunch of things, and this is Hav. Their location turned on andeverything for everyone to see public image and then- and I was like wellteethese- guys, a bunch of pocket idiot and then I continued watching it. Therewas. There was a guy whopo. You K, ow. In fact this particular one. Actuallyone of my housemet wes looking at I was like onaakmedian. This guy had stacksof cash and he's like Stide hussled explanation Mark Winki face I'm like if you are a dresil o Wat, ARF, OtopinOpost, a picture of your Stacki Acca be Thesa. Ye He's the same guy like thatwood flouna watch like he works at Bey, big, Mupk Fu, but he's Gon, a brandnewbmw got rings and I'm sure you canguarantee he's good, his packet location, tern or o too, that muchRitkin e, Dr Nmen Al. You that's whyay that fwhathow's the drug business goon,what's going on there, hopefully actually theyjust put on thesideworking people Doi, they must be taken. A Reale di know alcohol en takenthe. U S has gone up. Even no things are closed ID. Imagine it's probablythe same over here I would say so. I actually thinking ot thinking aboutthis t I said: Did the B alcohol business go up or down? And I would sayit went down Australia because I the fact that people are buying somuch alcohol, the mass majority of that that big chunk would have been consumedby Um people on my age, yeah like Ot, WOUL AV gone down. Do youthink so? Yeah? You think so, and I know the s like: Every server stationhas a bottle shop. Every every gas station every now herewas a bottle shopeverywhere we Hav d. We have a lot over here. Ow Get me wrong, buff, it's sucha commercial business that most of them are liqualanes a at shopping, centersand thise sort of things. So it doesn't surprise me in the: U S and it's goingup thone eymen. These are all things that are contributing to the peoplepassing away like it. It is. It is statistics, it's not a complete platedstatement, but people that have previous mobilities, who have taughttobe diabetes, who are obese, who have various ailments. These are the onesthat re that are passing away more eagerly. So it's Um. It's no surprisethat MIT probably explains Lo o theiryshes anyway, you know just likeit. Wo whate ir that's exactly right and I think there's a lot that can besaid about that. I think it's important to if you ha happn have that sort oftry to aim for the healthy lifestyle. I me not a any take gen exercise and youtake away eercirised baby. All now we get my deep waters, much near Ae tetape orders and I only had Ybo payd ourselves P. I think, if you were taking awayexercise, most people would just work out at home. I guess saying Wu we goout. I I mean if it got really bad I'dunderstand, but I don't think it's that bad that you said: Don't even leave thehouse yeah as opposed tobe trained six days a week. I can tell you I did onehomeworkout. I do two homeworkouts in too much so I mean I took my docor walk.I went out but actual rul workouts, where I sat down music on was hiadn micwith my buddy might have been three times so I had to still go ing to the gym. I waslikey enough to to have keys and a closed business. I was doingmaintenance at ter, Jym and Oll stoever go in that's my owny way of gettinginotherwayse. You know it is difficult to. This might be something I can signoff with a little bit of my ends like at homeworkout. Ton't have to be scary,it doesn't have to be a whole bunch of things you have to do n or h whatequipment I I have to get man if you got a Yoga Mat if you've got a carpetif you've got some beets and you know how to Dril Berb, you know how to dopush up. You can get some Shit Downe, sir. You know it can be done it just m.We have to get to a stage now where we realize it finally has to Frigg andsink him that I'm talking to myself more than anyone that this thing is nothat over night sensation. The seniors GOINTO STILL AF we're, probably noteven halfway through this thene I'd, say you know, yeah, that's true! Think of AC, because o heard immunitywould take yeeds. Do you think of vaccine is probably more likelyeventually. I think the vaccine is probably the only way we'll get throughthis an then again how long how long till everyone is vaccinated and Howthevaccine is going to work. ATER, 'cause, there's tob ways: Tea, thin, theway,two ways: a vaccine can go one that you know you get that vacccine and then youdon't actually get the colon o vas and you become a mut O coewize h. Other oneis so its Aminu yeis ice as cold. The other one is that is possible, a remedyto grownawars. So if you'd get the grown wise and then you get it andThensi you'll fine IIT's like a natural immunity and that's definitely larseresort oviously, because then you know...

...those you're really testing people'simmune systems and that sort of thing where an actual rule yeah. That's avery good point. There's a vaccane that, like the flu, has it in there and ithelps you beat it and then there's a revacaine. That is just like Naqaliza.That's that's iveen! For that T at I love Reallyyea and a problem is Goit toremember with influencean in influencea vaccine, I got influencal vaccine and Iactually I actually still did get sick from mysef in Atlig trosman like it.I've just had too many bad experiences with it. So you yeah at the fact that you have a vacinedoesn't mean you won't get sick. It just means most of the time that Gos Totecoi thinkfrom memory. I know there's different kind of Irses, so it may sto get aVaras if you have a bat enough attack, but his CAS is, you know the vaccine.Will Se work and you ll helyehthey're still giving you the virus in mostcases as well? So that's. The big question is like how much if we can,you know if we can figure out a way to minimize it, and I guess that'll be thequestion like. When is the economy? No, when do we need to get things back uprunning and like that would be last case resort like hey, we need to givethe UST thing. Some people might pass away. Statistics are showin and we'rehoping bettermeant that most people are going to be okay, but there is a chance.So that's wherether Werli's, going to getcrazy. F. hatever gets elateiste, BUR INV. The scary part is, if you take intoaccount the number than Brunnaran the numberson the Xcelye locan an chat. You can project BAS,basal, certain Tara and whatnot. I mean don't do it on exel. You could probablyproject what kind of what kind of numbers wer talking Um bin last ECATestimate for sure, yea that you could estimate I'm sure they have, especiallywithin the next felve months, where mmorelan likely, if it is what it isnow most people would have hanted the test Bo now so they'll kind of know howmany people ave got it. Ay People re passing away n and that's ort of things.So I guess e Ne I to e there's another problem with the test. The problem withthe test is, if you get the test, let's say: If I get the test now and I comeout as negative, I count as a person whohas been tested quite and then lady Calomar, a AII MA catchit. Yes, that's the problem yet with the whole Yehso. That's the challengethat I wl see. That's. Why e always? I also there's two different test of thisin anybody. Tess, which is essentially testing for any RESIGIUAAL, still leftin theyour body, so you've had it at one stage and there's the test. Toseevether is acive, there's actually two different pyps of cover test as well.So just belie you know, if you don't have, if you have the anybody's, that'sreally good. That means you've got the Immuni to it, so you can actually trackon and keep going. But if yeah, if you don't have at Ell, then you cal, youcan push the door on the way out and get it. You know like it's, it's reallyas simple as that. Like ltally ten minutes later it becomes, the testbecomes Bou an Boybrougt and the liric question hois of thevireading at the test, Sax Yeah. Well, that's RIH NA. I O imagine what thatmust be like, like you think, it's going to be stressful, doing thatimagine being in those massive suits and just bn, you probably look atpeople go er bu you've got Cov, you RII, I free Yeaha scary time to be alive anywhere,say: Let's wrap that thing. Wia Yeah, when I almost a one hour, fifteenminute mark were at one point Mon threeyeahw, our sweet Swat Ma'a. We didcover some good shit, ther olviously. You know we talked a Bi t bit aboutCova and we'd rather not, but at the same time they we're all going throughit d. If we can provide a differentl perspective of it or we just gettingsome stuff off that chest too. We had some hard conversations like some ofthose things at the beach and everything else like I've had to I'vethought about it, but I haven't in Associ in a setting like what we putourselves fror an hour. You have to cover with her answer because you'vegot to speak, so I really enjoy it and I hope I enjoy pot pass at home whenyou youll feel like you're part of it. So people feel a part of that too, butAma noer good episode, Ma Beautiful Friday night now, ifv g o probablychange of dirty Mappi mate. So I will go and do that t sounds like a Planis with a beautifulFriday Arbo and the next episode sating for the next episode iing How ManoInternof Wo I ye Cavefom, maybe Czecka checks out o the Clabe Tamis portcastcom looks up on Google Port Caschecker Aurson checked us out on Tuteinstrogramspotify, applepot gas, pohod past castboks, Stetcher Everyereeerweaye MaeSuj Ame, your books, the clame dummies, make you see ugly Mug, a rasore brother.Thank you so much we have been the CLEMADUMMI'S PODCAST.

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