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Web Back Baby, what it's the twentytirt of July, can you believe it? Nine and thirty five pm currently unluckyjoined as always by a Nakan, fack, Ete Se Dumesa back tee way back. We went onVyatas, but we returne. We come a Bao, an strong, my hay, Beenbury. I've beengood. I've been good of loving, been loving life. A lot has happened so muchto discuss. Let me take back what I just said. You know where I said e beenloving life. A lot has happened, a lot since ir lost portcast. Let me tol Yothe exact date when or last episode aid Toult of May was the last episode thatwent on, and so it's it's been a couple of months, not to mention the fact that we've beengetting a lot of responses. Bole, like crazy amount of lasti check. U We were,I think I think I remember mentioning to you- were roughly eight thousand ornine thousand downloader, something like that. Hairyeah the numbers weregood and they don't matter in the in themselves, but just H, people that welovenand care about to letting US know that they're likean a got a call from aguy who I haven't seen in five years. Iused to go to uni with Invinni even Sixeas, and he sai man you're doinggood work. He waiks or Tun now, but he's just like Mano like the PODCASS.Keep it up so yeah. That's what o Shit is just call away a hundrd hundredpercent and I've had Um. I walked into you, know differentmeetings, but not over the or the past few months and people yeah and they'vejust said. Oh, you know, you know we should someone, you know it's reallyGoodin to get into Portca, I'm like well, Hey I've, Gon, a pot, classesscheck it out right and it's it's been frantastic. So I w what I'm really troying to say theREASONA I brought that up is because I do love this portcass and it's actuallyalready given me a lot, despite the fact that chaling to use great it's agiven me a lot and is given us a lot which is nice. So we need to keep goingthat talking about the Portgass Ain. He in the background lock on you go someincredible: Intblino Malesse! I so just like a dad. She needed to get a wordinearly within the first sixty seconds, she's made in fotcast Dabut in thats,obviously Abbey and Inwad. My first daughter she was born on the fourteenthof July at nine Sevenen p. So technically it was eight days ago abouttwenty minutes ago. So anyway, of no Contin, but a there Washav, just been nincredible browling like we've had a really you know, we've had some goodconversations and it's kind of what spacters you know read doing this, andI wanted to do a point case after her birth and office. Didn't want to get utto be that long, but at the end of the day, but I went back don in this- isthis is y my favorite part of the week when we're doing it, so I love it andjust her includedin o my life, it's just inra crazy because being a parent,it's like one of those. Obviously big life, Goll things, but you Ginda, don'tknow what to expect and by the end of that pregnancy, over Otis Shalit wasthe one he was carrying the baby, itis sort of just so non totel. I justdidn't know how to feel and then once the moment comes at once a baby youknow goes through whatever she has to go through to come. INT into this worldand Yus experience hever the first time and she's, just real ind fronty, aflace. It just changes things and hat's already changed me. It's already likechanged my billi o priortized things in my life within a couple of days, sothat I felt that effect immediately so that other things are theyre going tocome along with it, including like the protective nature, and you know allthat sort of stuff. I looked forward toas well, but that's one thing I feltimmediately is like everything you know: t just is includeb W her any lifewhilesor lasperations or even today, to day think so. It's pretty pretty amazingthere, but m yeah. It's it's Al t yeah, it's just great its juscrime. I did itS. sometimes it's hard to articulate. I sang the attired to say exactly whatit's like, without telling people what happened and how Shefin came into theworld and kind of going through everything like that and that's yeah tatsom that stuffthat's in in itself, but we were just so blessed and mad she's, a big girlshe's got a loudset of the ongs she's, absolutely adorable. She looks so muchlike that Mon, which I'm so happy before I didn't want o these big earsand big sure. Iny teeth ha come out. So so far so good. Well, look I'M GOING TO START WITHCONGRATULAT! That's a big big! I mean, despite thefact that you Shalatit all the we till that you are Os. The pefet Bavis United,is what it is loocongratulation, it's the reason, a reason I saycongratulation right. I I have an analogy, and I know it must be hard todescribe this in the worlds and and coming from someone who's got no ideaof having how having a kid would feel like, but I do have an analogy. I sotell me if my analogyis completely out of the window and then I'l shot upforever. Yeah Gef. I hear here's my Nalaty riht, so you remember back inthe days when we used to play a cricket ride. So, yes, I remember BoyleTRAININGHAAC Goinn retlaining with the big boys in the RAPSORSO. It creakerright, oright, right and the day shill go into those cricket right. Most ofthe time would be absolutely shit right,...

...but one day we'd go ingto CR, all of asudden, credible cover, drie start coming out,alsosoi O yo. You know e cracking them outthe. You know it's like you suck aton. You know, Um, no, more, no more croicket field, all of a sudden you'replaying playing on turf and people are really good and all of a sudden you're.You know spashing him. Yet how does that happen? Well, I think there wasthere's actually a science behind it. What happens is actually ouris the BarBot, because you're playing with the big boys not automatically your Bodis,given you know your brain nose that it has to perform better and I think,having a kid is kind of like that, because once you become a parent onceyou know that there's no turning back one atkid is there in the work. All ofa sudden, you raise your birment, you, like you, raise your power, you becomea home new person. You raise your standard, you become the new. U andyou're the person who all of a sudden back you know, saving money was hardfor you all of a sudden. It becomes easier because you know you ave why?All of a sudden? What do you say to that? What do you think that analogyhits the bark on tat absolutely doesn't at the end of the day M, like the onlydifference between me and dew right now is I have eight days of experiencebeing a dead aemore than you, our part from that we're on the same we'rebasically we're pretty much at the same level. So like Y, you can stillcritically think about it. Pretty well, especially if youst switched on andunderstand how the world works, but obviously what you said was absolutely perfect ingoing back to the cricket days or rack back to the Anallegy, because it was areally good b t it was really well put, but that was a funny thing. 'cause.When we were playing cricket, I'd been playing for a good over ten years. Youwill work probably two or three years so in terms of kind of technique. I justhad a more developed technical game because I' just been doing it longer,but whenever we played with better players or e, you know we went to theserep tryouts great trach, I should say, and we would we sort of performed orsort o tested our sauce against the better players. Like you pretty muchoutshune me every time, and that's just because when that moment came like youjust stood up and did it and that kind of Um shows kind kow who you are as aperson and why you would be a good dad and yourself and that's exactly what itis. It's it's gone of like FAE flight too, and you cant go, go and talk aboutkind of a drenline and cous all your your two homones that are beingheightened during those sort of moments like that's kind of what theexperiencis like withtol birth, and that's. Why it's so hard to explain. Ialso believe, like being you know, being a Christian myself. I alsobelieve there's an element of God and Aes an element of USOMETHING. We can'texplain that's happening when someone's giving Bert it's something called the Holy Spiritand it's hard to measure. But it's a a feeling. You get, as I said, cauters all Wen, a Dran havesort of been pointed to the things that are going through your brain, butultimately ansort of one o one health, science, ATS caught fil, O fight aflight or one ot, one psycholosy fito fly and it's like when the moment comes.What are you going to do where you' Gong to stand up and do what you needto or you're going to hide away and give theself expuses? So Um? That'sexactly what kind of panting is N. that's exactly what you CA. We kind ofexperienceing that moment too, when we were sort of one. Seventy and eightynine in ear, Ol boys trying to make a goant life, and at that stage we lovecrickets. How go woul e sort of play represented a cricket and it's the samesort of thing you just obviously now you've got a little baby that justcries really loud and it hurts you is, and you don't have any BROOB. So youcan't feed it, but you also love it so much, but you wo that you're going tobreak it, so you don't want to hold it and Um yeah there's so many things aregone at once, but yeah R Y nowlegis, a hundred percent. It's just like withexperience you're able to kind of relate it a bit more. It's absolutelybringing a brilliant, because the reason I thought of that analogyii'veheld a a few babies in my time yet helodike a baby kind of feels likewaiting for a bull that Feu of them and the Bulls runningin 'cause. You don't know if you're going to get out right, Yo cesponability is just a whole newexperience. I Like I, I'm comple, if I'm being completely honest like I've,I've, not the person who's like extremely like Havis, the MOTHERInature right, but I I get it like. I have a younger sister goseeing, hergrow up, thes been one of the most beautiful things and and it's realizingthe fact that is this one of those most incredible part of life and if you'relucky enough to be part of that, whether be if your child or whether beyour sibling or whether it be someone else's child that youjust got to hold. I think it's something so incredable, because youholding your hands a piece of piece of the world or whether you knowno one thingon g back to Boe people listening to it believe in God or notriter, you hold something so something well I someone who has the power tochange the word itself right, which is so incredible, and then...

...you definitely don't want to be theperson who ruins it right. Yeah. Only the one talk Aon, sad right it. You don't want to be thatperson who drops you know the next Amadali on his hand or Dropp the nexton Knele MDEL on his head. I plan in e Shel Foto Ni da Kernellar, an your insecond sleepand Eyou drop, the ever bat. Then he scores a hundred n ex FRIENDSA EIT's so much pressure, butit's kind of beautiful at the same time, because, like you, don't want to dropthe you know the Nexnnelsamandella you now W or you want to drop the you knowcatching the first sleaps you know the so you know the dode goes on to make ahundred it's kind of beautiful 'cause. You don't know, what's going to happenbecause you know and it's gonna at the end of the day, there's A. I do believeT en. I suppose that's you know Wa the once again cal coming back religion Shobriefly, I do believe, there's always a plan and I think things always do workout for better. So I think I think most of the time is fine, but it's just ashumans. We can't help but be fearful. I suppose that's what makes us humanisn't it y? That's that's also the kind of the underlying message of what yousay in the Bible and Particularly, U pet parables and passages and booksthat were written by people who ever were directly in Caed ack with Jesus orSoi. They spoke to Jesus and take that for what it is. Essentially, it's like a guideline forlife and Um you're. You know you're, not the beautiful thing about the kindof t e existence we have is we have a lot of freedom seicey depending on yourcircumstance, but you pudo billy to do almost anything at any time. If youreally think about what you can do and you kindo just gotto, use thoselittle guidelines and kind of just do your best and that's why things justwork out if Youre, if you're, slugging away, if you're doing your best thingsto start to fall together, obviously in in your own way, you're kind of raisingyour business as like a little baby, you know there's nothing like theactual experience and the you know the feeling you get when it's your owncreation, but you can tap into it a little bit. I believe like when youhold a child or- or you have um e position, that you're in right now,where you're building a business and your tire life is put into this onething you can tap into that same emotion and that feeling of likefiheorfli brings it out. So th t that's kind of what I believe, the Bible to bein what the faith of Christianity is. I don't like to useowort Christianity van subroad, but what I believe it is is ultimately justa way that we can live our lives and US gone of a guided way that if you kindof do your best, then internally, that that internal thing that es you'reright Arong, your conscience like if you follow that thing, you're going tobe Oky um and that goes tthat'll jump across to your relationships that 'llbeing business soon. You knav friendships in whatever it is hundred e hundred percent, and I thinkyou were on the mark there right, I'm Oinna, say two things tist thing ist onquickly acress. I think thers thereis a big, especially nowadays with what'shappening in society, thite's, a big stigma to religion, right the Resen and,for some reason, religion seems out tethe right that the reason I'm wannaaddress. That is because I think, most of the things that are humans, asnow that we're com in to today and we'R, saying hey. These are the right things.Religions have already addressed those, but I think people, people just havejust taken those things out of context and basically actually M D, actuallysometimes actually killed religion, because you know most religions haveone thing in common and that's coming from someone. I've actually recentlybeen selling the crown again and I've read some of the Bible stuff and a RedBible, verses, I' listeing to books on. You know on how Christianity works. Alot like looking into religionand lot. Um Most this one common thing in in everysingle religious literature, whether it be Bible, Koran or Craotar or whateverthey call right, is the fact that you know treateveryone with respect and you know fear. You know basically imediate your fearand know that there's always a plan you'll be fi, I think thats, I thinkone I one gides. We I feo as right, yeah and they're vethy, they're basicand even to the fact. If you, if you you know, if you Believ, listen to you,know buras kind of philosophy which is not really a religion, more ofphilosophy, even Buddhas Philosophy has similar sup. Basically, you knowtalk about like take only what necessarily and all that stuff rightand so thats D Tis Religionan one size. I think it's really important toremember that all those things have always been there, whether weare ashumans, realizing those now right m that th theyre impotant. Now movingonto the NE thing Thaso as you get old an I will understand it more like as akid. I just had a difficult time m following it and too closely andblieving at it a lot. Obviously I just didn't understand it and I didn'tunderstand the practical ailments it had in life. So once I kind of got thatunderstanding, I saw it as a different ting of what it really is Um and that's little bit of a personaljourney and what you've said: You've Corne back and look your looking atthings to Yo. I kind o felt a little...

...bit that way as wellwn. It's reallyinteresting, especially if you know a story or you might no, I think fromwhen you are younger, and then you get reminded of it in this new context in aGadran standing, it's just like if you go back and Readwanc a simpsons brayou're going to get some jokes that Youre like whatthe hell. That's whatthey're saying like some feel fee like that, a really bad analogy right there,that's completely off the Mar, but like when you it's just a greatdunderstanding it it's a beautiful thing: Hen Cause r affirms Hat Eyvenmore strongly for me hundred percent, because italreligiousreleses Um LEOs s, allgy rightxplain h, so much of the religious pitaturehas been written in such metaphorical, memphorical manners, because so so it'stimeless right, because if you write religious metaphoright, rule orreligious literature in in literal terms, what happens, it is nottimeless right for it to be timeless. It needs to be n, no metaphorical termsthat it is subjective. Andt is subjectively observer old arete SA whenyou're on your one shipe day to go and get water and at at Mile Walk, don'tbeat your partner over the head with a stick like you, therto be so it needs to be n understand when,when an emotion, for example, and an emotion of angrige brought out an new,how did yourespond like d turned the other cheek aor? Do you react and docon with that? And that's that's a principle. That's spoken about in theby when spoken about across teboard too, and that's just sort of one exampleexactly exactly, and I think that's really important t remember and and oneof the things that I find with particularly a no no just n just withIslam but manyng religion is what I find es. There's certain people takingcertain metaphorical teachings very literal and taking our of context andturning it into baponizing it right and that's where all the problems come fromin religion and that's where all the wars come from. But religion at hiscore is actually not like that right. But you know, and that's that's why trelegion gets pat bright, some s like certin areas, Tule well, St Tnmember,that exists in a lot of different now parts of society e, that's exactly right and a and you knowbecause it's so metaphorical ones taken out of context. It becomes completelydifferent right here, and this is wer. INROSESS becomes very dangerous. Iactually posted a status about Um news actually doing that all the time in awhite particular oh heading cab, as the news we was. That was always as on particular one particular headingthat Um Missif. I can pull it up and read it out right, yeah, one particular. Let me read this out toyou, because I'm trying to geve contact here, because contet context is theimportant thing Soi it's on. Only these paper Yeh. Sothis is breaking news. Live updates face mask to be mentatory for Melbourne,Coma, Mitchelshire, right Victoria, recalls three sixty three new coridnineteen cases: Three Death Single Day global record new infection, broken single day global record for newinfection, brokend Nese, uprolls Commun. He spread greater thread than Melbournewitwill. You hear that her that ship Wie you go what the Fuck Melbourne hasbroken the global record for a single the most infection in a single day, aglobal record for a city ear. You W! You Ask Yourself You'r like what Hellwho the hell is. Writing this thing right, because it's taken out ofcontext. Technically, what are all the things they said were true, but put ina one sentence without any grammar that, because vert danger, Ri Yeah e Ha Richanges, we definition anus the meaning of it. It changes the defenition I sa.Basically, what I's saying is that Melbourne recorded the highest evercases globally. So that means you know, but you know you talk about Americasdecoding. Eighty thousand cases, roughleight teventy thousand on e, lookover in India es Ol, just how populated some of their cities are MNEAR Colcadaon by those sort of places, there's so many people when it say, and then youget these dirty. What JEMII was was the Telegraph W O? Was it no feel like getting e Clibaaisportgasue? But I remember the re Ru Ri an B, but the point is taken out ofcontact. Things can be very dangerous and I've spoken of a Lord about thisand a lot of people actually go well H, uctually, no that and it's actuallyreally bad, because you know you tell people that you know you give someone aparagraph from the Koran and go hey. The Koran says you know: Do X righttaking out of context, you go hey like...

Muslims. Do this now they'R Falking Don!You know you don't know what the contaxt of that is. The same thing Whitgoes with M with Christianity, sending e course with any of the religions. Youknow they talk about Bura ate and lived o one grain of a Rice O day. No, youdid not it's just a fucking metaphor. You know that that's the whole idea ofthe things and people don't listen to realize. Take things on e context. Tbecomes a huge problem now, just quickly reverting back to what we'retalking about before about having a bab of or PABE IIBOTI HA if IAD PODCAS, ifa Ibelin quanted by Ral, baistjs, Hapin, towell exactly happy to Xandyo back so muchunpackride and Thiss, just goin Na quicklese blood place, and then I'mgoing to move onto the next thing. Um, what I was say talking about a babyright, I've been working or this project, which is a brand new ventureiht and something completely I've never done this before and M. It's? U And I'mactually pouring a lot of money into it. At's well, IE, like money, mybankgrords are getting draine try right now, and this is a new venture and I'mvery excited about it. But every day I have to like I'm spending x amount ofhours in it and I'm spending that time and money in a time that is veryunprecedented for everyone else. Everyone is scared. Everyone's worriedabout money, obviously there's a level of optimism that lays in me right, andI think that tomorrow's going to be better thence. Why I'm doing this right?If, if I didn't think Tomoro was going to be better? I wouldn't be doing this,but you know I'm I'm studing T it's a new company, it's called Bumbaybox,which is like it's like Um, it's basically selling. You know itsells prodocx. It sells alternate prodocxs where there be like you know,brace lates and those kind of stuff, and mostly focusd on men but sellingthings like M prictles, because I like wearing places and a lot of t stigmaon.You Know Roun like how men are meant to be. You know all of a sudden if fi wearrings. It's like you, know, R, you know Mendol, wes or whatever right sothere's a whole mess idea behind it. I've been greating these Doyou Wan Wayto talk about a little bit more yellow, Wa Forin es, wait, I'm so far away totalk Byu. What I wanted to say was I every single day I ye very excitedabout every single thay. I'm really worried that every sent er I'm spending,is good. Just going to wast right Um and is the fear is always there D, I'mjust like I'm not sure like. If I'm doing the right thing- and I guessyouare right, it's kind of like raising a baby because you don't know, what'sgoing to happen Axa, are you making a mistake or you not making a mistake?Are you doing the right thing or the wrong thing is the whole thing? Amistake. Are Human worth it? You know yes, Zerois Ob earamedia same kind ofthing yeah, but I mean like it's. The same thing were like every every youknow: Every decision everything I'm doing is you know, there's no one eHain foterence, but any goon afew small group of people, a re going to help you,but ultimately you're kind of Te Captinin the ship in a lot of way. Soit's like w at what am I going to do in this situation and you just got to keeptrying because it's everyone's going through o Kno kind of a first in humanhistory in a lot of ways, we've had similar things and ehade recessions andwars, but thishas a different feel to it, just because of them en well andwe're living in the mother World Andso many things that we took for advantage.How a lot of those can be taken away, it's kind of the blessing of beingalive now and kind of a little BIS. I E curse too, but Um do you. So what? What is it in you that drive you to keep doing that you justyou justt know that you need to fulfill Yotento. You just need to live a lifethat we youre, trying your best kind of whatever you're doing. Well, th, that'sthat's the thing right. I don't know right. I and I think that's completely. Becompletely honest. I think that's! Okay, I don't know no wat tomorrow. It'll beright here. Yeah and Ti just feel. Like I mean ate, O thTAT is too option I to be nihilistic and sit here. Go there's no point toanything but, and I will never be ou know: l read the stat how everyMillenniu would never nomillenia will make it right, througthe stat. Thething is, the all dose stat and all those probabilities are probably right,a corrected stess, but I com yo fashion. I still do believe in miracles, Oaxception to the rule. I don't know whether that's a good wayto think or not. I've always seen myself to as an exception to the rule.I've never been laughwing or Wright wing. I've always just thought. I'maxception to the rule an I tik whats, what I verlate with it doesn't matter. You just look at it objectively and you look at it kind ofinthert person in a lot of ways, and you just try to look at whatat leastwhat I do is I try to look at Popepe spectives and then I kind of side withinnocense or I formulate my opinion on the the side that I agree with the mostOl, the whatever it is, it doesn't. Eve have to be a side, see that's kind ofthe problem right with Conwall thats a AKI is exat. He Lik e Hincurtte doesn'tneed to Reust Al One human race like...

...it'. That's exactly right and that's eproblem, and I don't know I don't know if any of this is going towork. I don't know if I'm wasting my time and I'm better off just working anice job and buying a house, and just you know getting having some k havingfew kids and I D N', I mean I'm sure I Wann't do that as well see if thatworks out n obviousy. I can't I can't controle some of the stuff, but this Ican th there's two options. I mean I couldbe nalistic and just go hey like nothing's gon worthwhile. So, let's letme just pursue to pursue what I know, but I kind oflike the idea of pursuing the unknown because I don't know what's going tohappen, but I know if I can do this- maybe thes a chance. Something bettercould happen right and bet something better for the human kind, not just me,and I feel I kind of feel proud in myself. I feel I feel pride in doing so and whether whether a lot of peopleagree or not, I feel find pride in myself to doing so that I'm doingsomething that could possibly benefit the human kind, because there's so manypeople who aim to benefit the human kind very passively. And that's whenyou see a lot of potests and Cari us some of the useless stuff. I'm no saying Hotis e find as an I mean, noninty percent of ter CAS we're, notsure we're, not sure where the R on you know there was a protest. A few weeksago, Rut now we're not gong to we're not going to saw hold eother loves, buW. What I'm doing is h. that's not what what I ha remember, b, t I'm sining L,there's a lot of different passive ways: eaching the world right, but NN'sKonofie to Madias that's gone Ou. I guess laving back to the mabeo littleBian, a butlike. My my thing has always been like when you start like basicallythere's two ways to do something by one of the ways is, let's say as a kid youknow theyes as a kid. Let's take go back to aekidanalogy you're AK, there'stwo ways: Yo get something right, one you jump up and down winge and you getsomething the second is you find a way to get it you find a way or you invent something.Um I've always been more F inventor, I've, no being the kind of person who Ijumps up and down and hopes. If I cry long enough I'll get something Um yeahpersonally Li on EA, I agan, I don't. I don't necessarily want tosay that's all wrong: either they othe thing about s again: The problthe fiveten percent, that's affecting the last majority F, The r Yeye- and I thinksome of it is such a great, beautiful work, and I I do appreciate that,because you K W, I really do appreciate it, but you know: There's they obviously j. The thing. The point is:There's two there's two different people need to be because the worldisn't Gointo Change, O. There's two kind of people need to doing it. Iguess they take a kit analergy. There needs to be a kid who's, jumping up andtown to asking for there needs to be another kid who's oe to Onventsarcryand, showing mysically yeh theres need to be an nothing botha, both aboter valid and Ye Huti Onin oad. That's a bidle thing about the CONOFtsociety that wehave like enough to live in here here in Australias. Youhave that opportunity to voice your opinion yet go whatever way. You want hundred percent Herpersen and that sortof goes in line. Wi W, what's been so much happening right now, so muchhappening right now and it's insane I mean. I know everyone keeps osoing.This is a like. Nothing like this has ever existed, and I mean this. I justwant NA touch on that because I feel like, of course, that's true, becausewe always move forward in time. I don't think there was anything like theSecond World War, despite the fact that was the first World War. The firstsecond world world was nothing like the first word because we moved forward intime. It was once upon a time in the time and nothing like that will everexit again. We could phace and face and other pen demic identical to this, butthe way will deal but Tet woild be completely different, so that would bethe only time would have experienced that. So I think everything iscompletely new, so this Pranamac is probably this pandamic is something that's so alient to us, because none ofus ever experienced it and, as I said this part of fact, humanif there's beenpendemiks before and there's been things like. A Spanish flud things like that before,but Tin Times have changed right. Things have changed and we have moretechnology to do withit. We have all these different, whether for good orbad. It doesn't matter of good side and you know once again, then it depends onif you wear mascer, not if you're a fucking idiot who doesn't say I'm notgoing to wear a Muss, then K ow anyway, that's decided to incuade itparticularly F. It's you're goingto get fond notheninetee hundred dollars. Youknow yeah if you're a fucking IDI who doesn't wear a mass. An the point isyou know. The point is all of a sudden. These people have opinions right. Thepeople whore saying they're not going to wear mastey, have an opinion. Takeback t the Spanish fluf theinwer mast. They would be in a prison somewhereright because that's how the democracy wasn't as like, as liberating as nIstra would not realy happen in certain countries. I'd say this Yearrussia,potentially these countries that have...

...it AChina. You imagine countries thathave a stronghold on th, the ECOLIGE citizens and you know, through theirpolicies and through their political system. That would be the case so yeah. It's Youve got to count your blassingsas much as you can, because it helps you se throw a load of the ship andhelps her take a lot of the emotions out of it on a funny way like when yousit on the negative for too long it'll little JAG little jaea hundred percenthundred percent o talk, I about the negative, which kind of bringn anothering that I wanted to talk about. Was I've. I've been pretly. This is o, maybe if this has somethingto do with us, not doing the portcast for a few months, Isthis I' goint. Tobe completely honest. At the beginning of this Pandamac I was very positive. Iwas like you know. I've got I'm on a stay POSDAV, I'm gin a stay, O positive,I'm goant to stay positive, and I did despite the fact I was just I'm SIpositive and I I stayed posime throughout the holding. 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I es like this is an Autopota witheverything going on and I've been trying to stay quiet without makingpolitical statements, because who am ight to make the political statmentsand I've been seeing so many people with so many people with opinions andI've learned something new in this nilistic time of mine is the fact thatopinions are so useless because you know no, no one person agrees with themand if you become defensive, Abyut your opinion, you will never actually hearthe other person and I feel, like you know, two people walk away in aconversation where you're, basically just telling the you know rubbing otherperson with your opinion, you know better when you walk away fromthat conversition. So you wanto hear othe people out, so I ive. I made acommitment to myself from this nalestic time that I've been in that that I'mgoing to from now and be a little bit different Ini, an Eke who actuallydoesn't actually have an opinion, and I has no emotional attachment to myopinion. So I need to hear the people out 'cause. I may be wrong becausepeople who have been wrong and tell me their opinion, a absolutely like Y- U KI have no remose for them is because the way they're going about it. So ifI've been doing the same thing, then I'm no better than them, so I wan to bebetter. So I'm going to be Baanyway. That was my whole point. So this is whywe haven't at least Tis why I've been guilty just tryring to m battle BalaOut, but now I'm coming back strong. You know I've even booked a dental,Dente Uppoitan. I my life. We got ot EH, so I get O I wash my badsheet. I made my bad andyou can hear I sound excited. Despite the fact we go another four weeks offlo down here in Melpin, but anyway, that's where we are. Yes, was your EOoin. Lo, your your opinion is not Amerie like so yure you're, not in love.You know, you're not married till you pinion, so you should be willing tomove an adapt, ing change. It's Gonta benefited me already and it's somethingI need to remind myself Ole but yeah you just Aybe, I tapt an ED percent. Ifeel like I feel, like Lockan Une, and I nowthicevery well because were Prty Self Awar, you and I have always been reallyemotionally attached, O our opinions, despite the fact that weare quite awareof what we say, but we still have an emotional attachment with our opinions,and I really want to hear the people out despite the fact that some of themmay be absolutely useless, but I'm win to hear them out, because if I'm nothearing them art, I'm no different than the her Nivera. That's what I like theharsh reality, but that's the truth for US hundred percent and and man like you,don't have to be- you don't have to re to you're going to process. You know ifyou felt like you let yourself down with whatever you have or have beendoing through this time. I certainly feel the same way but, as you mentionedbefore me, and even even tha, thsthe m smartest finkers and the best mines inthe world struggled to deal with what we're going through right now, you canOyo that they've done. You Know Lot lorse than we have Su tit's kind of ourway of going through everything, and I mean we can certainly it's definitelydefinitely going to be a time. We look back on back and think about how wefelt how we could have done things better or worse. But if there's youknow this ist any solitude in knowing that this is our first time doinganything so when, if Youe ever done anything for the first time- and youknow done well whand fel kind of Patyosoln, like Oh man, thatw's great,like you Kina go alone and Tok away. So it's just good yea. It's just greatthat we're self aware enough that we can yo knowwe'r willing to do that. Soit's it's yeah! It's just and get back on track like we hareown and we'll be okay, hold er self, accountable. All thatgood stuff and yeah. We got no Firg to worry about an hundred percent and- andthat's that's another thing about M I've. Recently read this beautiful book,it's by Peter Til, who the guy, who founded Amazon with Ivon Masqu. He wrote this book called E to One andhe talks about opti optimism and m optimism and peoplewho are into analystic nature of people who are into Um people who are notsoptimists right. The DOK was so as a optimist rihe. This two kind ofoptimists, obviously there's an optimist. Person who just thinkstomorrow is going to better, despite the fact that they do nothing to makeit better right.

If you're, if you're Bhak kind ofperson, the chances are your ful right, like ' that's a fact right, thete's a fact,but if you're optimist who actually does something today, because in hopesthat tomorrow will be better and you do something about it, then your chances are. You know on once again Tsu my opinion, so youknow I mean once again I'v Mad changes, but today I feel like I'm the personwho, O in lock te same with you right, despite the fact that we, you knowthereis. Obviously we have optimism for tomorrow that tomorrow's going to existin this crazy time. That's why we are talking with such excitement on aPORTCAS, otherwise w'd be like well Shit's going Don. We all got a good eye.You know you nw what I mean right, so we're doing something in hopes ofmaking tomorrow better we're taking this into our own hands. So that'swhat's happening, I mean everything makes different. You know the ocean wasformed by a Drok at a time or whatever they call it right. You know Um, somaybe thes sport classis exactly what will change the next whoo? The point is:that's what optimism ISFOR, but optimism, withoubt action is kind ofuseless as well. Does that just mean you're hoping without any? You knowit's like saying. There was something that I something really funny that Isaw it was actually kind of about religion which is ealy rather mtoabout,the sportcass there 'cause we've been talking about that n. It was there'stwo kind of people, one person who works hard and goes you know, I'mpainful for what Iwhat I have. The other person who sits at home goes well.Let Thel Lord Sharper Wide Well, no, that's known how it kind of works youstill have to work for, but having the ability to work. For is what you needto be thankful for yeah. That's the optimism, that's the being great for haelement in not letting it tolten you in the sense like everything's, okay, butyeat using it right. It's like the optimism is like the motivation, it'skind of fuel when it get to going and keep t going, but you need yeah. You need to stickwit, Dee wher. Their discipline will come in and help you stick with it,because you're going to go through the EBS and flows just like we are now yougon to have your bad weeks and good wegs and our lives are compromised butyeah as long as you stay in the race and song, as you keet trying your yourbloody and wit ovset, this multipletimes an this potcast withoutdoubt, so it's just applying that bloody knowledge. We already knowoffright and it'sit's, just like anything manwhen you're trying to like analyze something you've got to look at it fromboth perspectives. You've got to kind O, be harsh on yourself and also be easyon yourself, too n. The way you didn't didn't do things, I'm GOINGTO SAGUA now into part of the topic of the day that wesort of Idatat we didnt really get into which is Tebe e. We know we've got tohit t this out of the park and I think this white sesterday that mighty our welove to see si we'sl here we go but IV sort o took that approach to it, andI sat back and I thought about kind of what the media is and what it has beenon, what it is now and growing up, even only ten or Fiffen years ago, when Iwas in the education system in further back, particularly before they turn otthe century, and we had oeseethe massive Riseon, the Internet, like theroll that the media had was kind of that mediated middle person in lifekind of the representatyve for the people. That also fall that use verymuch as a political tool, for you know PT politicians and people in leadership,and it was m. It was predominantly particularly where we are used for goodthere's plenty of examples. Worbs gain now, particularly war time or any othertime. It's been used for a negative, but we always kind of respected thefigure heads that was the media because they were there to kind of keepeveryone in line and as technology n in the business of media shifted even that article that you re right atth, startef Te podcast, which, to this day I still laugh at, is just soridiculous. No one's going through and critically analyzing that, becausethey've just got to shoot out so much content and they've got a they'veshifted their business model over now, where they're, not just making moneyoff being people n going around and asking the right questions, tha've gotto be f. An boyand they've got to be controversial R, at least they perceivethat anyway. Funny enough the most popular people in the podcast spere andpeople that are sort of making more money now than even the big dogs inknow, they sort of big channels. People just don't want that sort ofscewd Waer, that's sort of the way that shifted. So I don't think w. You know.I certainly don't want the media to Goa, because then it's just bloody, a freeroaming kind of town but m. it's just not good for anyone, but I I guess Iwant your opinion on it as well, because you're so deeply most in it andYor. You have a great understanding of D, digital media and marketing and howit's meant to be use and how it can be used is. Is it time for US Tocon ofreevaluate the role that we play on media in society and do we? You knowinclindawill help in a lot of senses on TAT. No, there still seems to be a lot of peoplethat seem to respect what they're hearing and that sort of formulates alot of decision making in people's opinion about particularly what's goingon with this circumstanceal we've know, Hav been going on for a while. Do youthink it's probably time that we reevaluate that and quite a look atthat role in society? That's that's a...

...hard question to answer because youmight have already skipped aff that stage an maybe you've let them go. Idon'tknow, I think thes ther is thes multiplelevels to that question. I think. No, if you'd look at media itself rightthe media. What you said was absolutely bang on the mark. Media was the people,MEA wite people, one of us. They were the one who were going to war and therewere heros once upon a time. They were heros because they were going to warsto just tell us how loved ones were doing there, but was how was Australiadoing? I was you know. You know. War is not good, but at thetime we to wor was good right because that's how we sas it necessary ableuless, I s ye right. So that's how we processing and regardless of whateverit was right. We thought it was good at the time and whatever it may be. Now Um,you know we. We sow those people as heroes right so what they they. Theycame a point when being a person who you know was in the media or the press.You were the agent of truth right t and your N, you studied Mediaye, owe saw it.We saw that sort of young oftimissm that passion that we kind of had firstentering the field too. That's exactly that's exactly what I was Wong to sayyou. I remember going to Uni Wen being with the stuents, and they were soexcited about their truth. They were excited about Um. They were excitedabout Um. You know what what is to bring. They want to be t. They want tobe the people who fight right. They wanted to find for justice, becausethat's what media's always been they've been f they've been voice of the peopleso at hence fighting for justice right. What the problem wher the problem camein was when the Internet came around right, H Inter came around because fora very long time the basically, let's call it you know,media or news media particular right was worked off two kind of labels right.They did basically advertisement and they made a lot of money ofadvertisement for very small, even running like one Ed Edward for Cocola,and they got B millions ride and obviously more channels poptops. It wasmore competition and slowly that kind of that just became bigger and bigger,so there was more channels and then enter Internet. Once the interet camearound Um News, Ros, it's value in a sense where it lost that capitalismthat the money it had the capital it had to be able to do that to dove thetruth in in a ethical manner. Right- and I it's really funny in business wetalk about it said you know, Google has the opportunity to be athical wheresmall companies don't, which is really interesting, because the small companysis the one that get done for being unathical, Kindo kind of really funny.But you know so it's like when you have the capital, you, U resources and apersonnol. You are ethical, but once you don't right once you don't want yougo into this realm of trying to basically you know, Um, there's a thingthat 'cause, you know you're, like hang to Malk kind of thing. wher you justbasically bely scraping and swiving right is once you become bad, is theissue because then, then it's all about 'cause! You know what, if you wo L, ifyou don't get the article outright now, because what if weget it Fiur line?What about you ow? Someone else gets it out, but then you wer the last and thenyou'd get less clicks on your thing, and so there's so many and then t allof that becomes relevant. So they end up basically posting things with going public with things that is, youknow, indated inundated with spelling mistakes and grammar mistake, and it'sactually, some of it is millions actually crreck. Now now news like, Iknow that news has always been always has carried self to level of opinion,but news is m d, but that's what's actually cod opinion jounralism hat,it's called Um Um, opinioned, opening jealism or something there's a namefore right, yeah Iapendin pace but yeah there yeand Lenool, Generayeahnonresearch to yes, it's basically saying how W I think about it right.Yes, that's what it is and Tis we we had serded about that in uni. There wasa unit for it. I I can't remember what it was called, but I think it wassomething along alone, something like critical thinking, wer. Basically,we're asked to think about. We get to say kind of actually, but still so saywhat I feel about you know if your a journalst whosi in awar zone or your yours, your most so deeply and somely that it's your job,it kind of becomes a party, your life and you're, able to formulate anopinion, baseball facts and experiences which everyone which everything is kindof, based off your about a position, that's kind of where that authoritycame from that was kind of the that was kind of the leveling of it and why thetrust was there, I guess, and that was their roll really yeah exactly and now going back to theInternet now that they have all. Now...

...that you have facebook who people caninstantly actually advertise their own business, all of a sudden doesn't needthe news media to advertise them. You know old Cocola doesn't ead a microsof.Doesn't eet them m. When was the last time Youve seen her add for Microsofton you t V, just let me ask you this right. I will answer the questionbecause those are the big boys. Those are the that's where the money camefrom. That's when apple had TV ad at TVCRight V, commercial, no, the taunt! So where are the news making money fromthey making money from you know, so they have to sell more ads for cheaperand you know they have to get more out there because more clicks they get. Youknow more more money, they can. You know more, they can monotize and sotheye really just kind of trying to swim without knowing how the same kindof situation, because they're freaking out, like you know, they're, reallyfreaking out. So that's why it's like you know when you're, when you'retalking about going back to cricken right, it's like when you? U! No, whenyou, when your partner makes you one trainstead of two and then next ball. You know your flyou're, like Fla, Frezzl, right, you're frezzled and you you're, tryingto face the boal you're like what the fuck am I going to do. You know 'cause, that's when the highest highestassis are you're going to get out because You'e already just you, know,prezzld and you know you're, surprise an ond up with that you're you'regasping for ear Um. If you did all the ones, you would havebeen fine, but you clearly you didn't. You know, that's why you're there rightm. So in that sense, that's why they have to do things like that: a theyhave to clic pate people. They have to say things and at anothe day one of thethings that Melia uses this once again there. So many levels do this, so Ican't just say it without actually analyzing it. So one of the thingsmedia uses is far everyone os so as humans have inded DNA to basically bemore responsive to fear, because if we, what fear is, is a mechanism to keep usalive? If you really think about it right, Feris a mechanism to keep usalive, the fear of touching fire. This the reason why you don't touch Fabifires, because youll burn yourself, that's why you have fear of fireburning, itrself, so veris internally, driven it's actually very beneficial, keeps your life right, otherwise,you'll just step into the tray in front of the train and Youll B, Lack Yeah. Idon't care, you know, so it's but media utilizes that andactually you know, uses to mix put things in front of you, because if oneof the articles scares you more than the next article, you'll read the onethat scares you more quite because anyone knows theon. You have arenber aswell you're more liky to share it. Tell a friend and that's more people lookingat it. That's that's exactly right and, andthen on top of that is, is the fact that Med is using the and the nontop ofthat media is always can. I remember. They also think about their loncevityrilt to keep in mind. They have to support the machine of the capitalistsystem, so so many things that media actually says is in terms of supportingthe capital system. Let me give you a small example a while ago, while ago-and this is mnow now- I'm talking about millioness and my movies and movies and Um and news and everything right- a aWilago. There was a big puhion so basically a whole bunch of a whole bunch of big retailers cametogether. So let's justcall them the Davi Jones of the word and t the misdsof the world fried not particularly those complete, but those kinds of preecompanies. Right Tey came together and they said we have a problem RighttheySa d, what s what's tha problem! The problem is that women by the latestclothing women by the latest clothing, the latest slipsixed by hair productsin debuying all these things, but men aren't buying anything. They meant buyone pair of jeans and they Weir for like forty four years and such a hugeproblem t ha. I ae rihe because intury right parent, that's what our dad tidright, ou thats, wor gene, and he had that in N, hus, N nine hundred an ventyseventy two wori e ind still go amon because that's Ho theproblem was right. They were like well they're, not buying that I m bit orbuying more, and you know on on one ocation. Maybe they'll buy a new shirt.I if are lucky otherwise they'll cap on the same one and they weren't evengetting a haircut Le on anything else. They' had all the handlong hair becausethey're like well, that's cool. You know they weren't even getting a HaicutTheyre Ni Oka. Well, we need them to get to the pie, because literally fiftypercent of the fifty percent of our customer bracees only byind actormonths, and if you work in retair- and you understand how important it is tohave you know: aanma yeah return, FY Money, player, Yeh ye y Bofoyef. Sothwhat can we do wel one ofthe examp. One of the solutions: Ro less drop, thequality of Thetitem, so people have to buyi in e Ro, O col that' school, butthat's still not stopping from people from just fixing it right, because thatwas the first thing, that is the Uy dropp the Oltu. But then people justkept on fixing it itiwas like okay. Well, we need to come boce withsomething else. So then they introduce the he what Callis a modern, modern,attractive man right, the modern...

...attractorman was almore femininecompared to the the previous attractrument, the Moormodern,attractive man or the symbol of sex symbol, symbols that a person thatsymbolized um attraction or the masculinity was almore feminine to beFeminine. So that means a person who all of a sudden wase skinny jeans andwore hair products, a Mento, the gimman looked after his skin and shaved and aclean haircutton adapt a lot more of the future of the feminine kind of thetime. Right once again, these things are not particularly m particular toagender. But what I'm saying is why why they came? I in that time right, sothey said Okaywell. We have to support so all of a sudden, so I was like howdo we get that message across while Clarthi is only one way to do it tomovies ar advertisements, so in movies, all of a sudden, if you notice there'sactually a you'd, be very if you actually go back on movies, you' beable to see this way. Clearly it all changes in around N nineteed, nd.Ninety nine. Ninety Eight T. Ninety nine! That's when it changes youill see all of a sudden people wholooked slimmer and people who looked had more. You Know Blue Eyes, peoplewho had more like Ho like more faminine features likesoccer futures became more ferrominent. Yes, yeah. There was like always your jams bons inth, the sexemble, but they were generally pretty rugged and rough andKINDOF mature type people, those type of guys that would wear a pair of Dansto death and not by anyone. You know for a little while and yeah shift, inda focus and it was almost created. They almost crated a different. You know aperson that we, you know much more. You know assimilate with compared to theolder generation, so it's not that we're bad mouting it in any one way oranother, but at kind of a power, and that's how I men Christmas in itselfValentine's Day like these cultural things that we celebrate in the Sardiwere all manufactured through Mark Marketing, Toms and that's kind of what metias shiftedto right like it's just become so so because it's needed to obviously ecausethe needs of survivot. It's shifted, the PMAIN focus. I feel aooer way.That's exactly right. Some very strong people realize what wat the power ofthe media was and they started utilizing it caus Al Anat, psychologythat goes on with it and jistunderstanding what people like andplaying on people's fears and even what people? You know everything everything,every emotion, really Soma psychology and, like I min going back to this coocorrect example that I was using and actually you know I look Ng deeply intoit. So this is like the word they they got together, the smallestpsychologists, they co them. Some of the best of the team together toactually n develop this program. There was Actul, I think it Stwo ther, it'slike a big big H, Col cohition of theseadvertisement companies and RETA companies. I forget whatic schoolsbased of England, but M. it's it's a company, it's a company that work onthese kind of vitims like basically to work. Our new technology, SDARE, saylife to advertise right, how Te selping and if you realized what we've alwayslooked up to, has always been the people who are on t V or famous right.We've always always seen the people who well known as because that's what itgoes back down to human needs of life, a being m basic human psychologicalneeds are, like you know, being Um. It need to be more Um. Have that value? What is it called? Youknow. Have that Um have some quntifiable value in theworld is what what we all aim for. So we listen to the people who have acompifiable value and it's called Um. It's also like a group thing as well.That's why that's why you find, if you're, if you're a do or a girl right,you find if you're, a girl and you're in a relationship you'll find a lotmore guys hit on you and something with your a guy in a relationship ante tdoesn't matter what what kind of relations you were in if you're in arelition, O you'll find youll get a lot more people h, you know. Basically, youknow Um giving you like throwing themselves at you, because you'reunavailable, because scacity Myso we've always been in this Ig. They still aveone scarcy. The second one is because it's ally proven that you are a goodpartner, so Um, you know. Why would I ecall social, what s it calld, it's osocial proof, social proof, that's what it's called Ho social prove. So I don'tneed to know. I oeay know. Well, if you have like, let's say: If I'm a you know,if I'm a girl, I already know you have a girlfriend so you're nor curcular. Sothat's why I can just go. Go for you right! That's how the prehuman brainworks and that's why we look up to people who are famous because we likewhell everyone's looking up to them. That's what we must do exactly whatthey're doing in order to become paymous, then everyone will look up tous and we'll get all the girls at all the boys and that's how a brainworkcris and that's what media utilizes that to put us into this weirdsituation of where we end up giving into such things of Likeo whertheybecome Ar. I mean I mean o whether I be good for a bad Ri. Wait. T was a goodthing for us to become more feminmaybe.

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You know, if you see the remember the old, I was that F old spy, sad bodywashead like just having son like that, if theforefront of people wanting tocopy and and it's just it's- I guess- th, it's the same as sportlike you know, you're selling, a supplement you're going to get LeonJames to you, ony get a hard paying athlete you're not going to get somebokwho's been tested, positive for cocaine three times that he's just got owt ofJai you're not going to get him before. Elatit so jes it's a dirty old andsocial precures, a good goodlittle term there too, because it's so prominentthroughou o society, not just in not just in what we are going through nowTbat, everything like an or people doing like. What's the next thing tocome up in the media, it's just another thing: Tho me they're using so well,isn't it hundred percent hundred percent anyway.So basically, hopefully, that kind of cos that's a big rant. Oba there was w renamed anbecause. I don't want tosay something and just seem like I'm just seeing it because I just hate themedia right here. It's I out of the media, I'm part of the media, like Iwork in this industry Istand, the value of you know: Um Click Pag and all that stuff B t. WhatI'm saying is the problem is when that's being done in a in a crisis for, for you know basicallycapitalizing on something of on in people's pain. I is kind of sad youknow um at least to in into my values a O- maybe it's not in other people'svalues. Yeah, obviously not because it's such a big part of the businessisn't it, but it would be some that you know USS. Like the old question, if you knowyou offered a million dollars, what would you do and obviously that's aquestion? You can andy answer when you go through the experence, but you justhope- and it's obviously bu people that have the Positionhavat in power ansocial influence like the it's it's a business ir you've got a you've. COLSOgot to be, they would educate yourself, another people in it too, and that'skind of what we're doing now and when we are going through what we ofthinking about like we're coming back at each other and whe we're opening upthe conversation because it needs to be Vilin. You know WHA. I guess, whenyou've only got four minutes on t V to talk about the protesting you've gon toget in as much as you can or you're not going to go for it all. So that's kindof why we feel we need to go through kind of everything we do on here. Butit's it's the way that we, I think, the, why the reason wh voth few and Iprocess things I can pretty well compared to the averid person,certainly of our age too. We have a pretty good understanding of even the things we don't know about,because we're able to look at things that way. So maybe we can all take alittle bit more of that. I've just I'veleared that off watching otherpeople and looking and loaning off ofe people, I'm sure Youl, the SAMD likeit's just about not being again not being married to one idea, I guess andbeing open and willing to evolve and change and- and I certainly feel I'vebeen affected by Cobe, but I feel like e. You know if it was a few years ago,I feel like it might have daged me a lot worse. So Hey, that's! Probably onegool play that Woll get it too a hundred percent and each day wouldbecome stronger and you know- and I sai this like this isnomalthingwhich- is really funny because come ninety Tines Stolke me alot one of the things that it told me taught me which is which you know funnyenough. Our politicians keep on saying, hus common sense. I realize it's a bigassumption, saying that a Bun's go common sinse. Unfortunately, peopledon't and you know I've been seeing a lot of conspercityas jumping up anddown like boiling ads eggs in a par in Ou, know Saucpan Basi. You know it.It's really interesting because theyre believe in something so speculative andthey believe it with all their heart. Like you know, maybe I just wondersometime, I was like it's important to Holdyo it's important to Kno factsit,it's realy impotent to be selfaware of why you believe in something that youbelieve in. Where did it come from right? Di Tyou come from a crediblesearch did or did you watch a UT video omye from a channel six, nine zero re,aluminaring, credimit or deet one cracked for one, RIA, a noege comingfrom e noise yeah a lot of the time you'll find things are very logical.Wea Life is logical right,...

...so when you really think about it, whenyou get to the Batem R, actually talking about that right, Weeky Leaguesjust dropped so much of the like a whole bunch of m all their files overthe years, which is really funny, but talking about in general, right,Chessar, tere's, no real superconspiracy to end the world ofthis one person who's doing thing, because the reason I say that isbecause the reason I said is s, there's no chances or they might theres vewless. You know very little. CHESSES is because Hemisa, probably you know howdo I put this like? We can't keep a secret for ship xactlyright. We can give a secret mash and it comes out very quickly right,especially nowadays with all this technology. Every kid every man andtheir do can hack something right. So it's just it is it's. It's O. It'spretty unprobable that irs a grand plan from this grandmaster WHO's J, tryingto end the word and try to claim all the money or something like that. NdI's tring to sleep with all the women and trying to you know, turn everyman.You know g like I feel like thes, very few chances. You know, and you know Isomeone was saying how we dealt Weh. COI Ninteen, really bad, and this isyou know, we're going to kill the economy. It's going to last ofe fiftyfive years and we the whole Universei scoold. Because of this like what were we meant to do? Is Hiepeople pretend like they know something? It's like man. If you really do, thenwhy don't use to GRUN FOR GOVERNMENT ONC? She runs a Senate. Why don't yourun for the President Rightri Rne en to for any any Tasno what you WAN to do?If you really understand just ask yourself this: If you understandsomething, is there a chance? These other people who understand this? Isthere a chance that millions, the thousands of psychologists that thegovernment Hiras the could understand this possibility or the economists whoactually studied this shit could understand this yeah LIV? Ask You sel,Pin Hda Yeah, just ask you somf this because same him. I can si here talkdall the Shir I wore about psychology and you know, but I don't I don't claim to know asmuch as the people who maybe I do claim, but t doesn't mean. Iknow not much is that anemis Soo, yes, Wastudi Oyou know a o e in a job theycareer for preriod of time, but you can still have a Bett understanding and youjust y you just don't go far an exceed of what you you know you you're capableof understanding, really yeah, that's EFAC and look I'. I may actually attimes actually tell you that I'm Exac I'm a hundred percent Rit Ri, which Ido a time to time, because I'm only hm like everyone, we all are right. We dothink sometimes we an that's why I wa's tsaying sometime. I feel like it'simportant to no be emotionally attached to your opinion, but I I do think ifyou can think of something I can guarant o this osoons already think ofthought of something. If you really think, if you doubt that you're theonly person, let me give you a small exercise right, think of a businessname and you think of it, a business tam that you think is superclusive andyou dontnperson tol of it or a business idea, then go goowll. It trust me. I'vebeen doing that a lot and ee he he tat. I wasin of a name of e Potcast, an try,Geinigtwhat, I'm saying, is human brains and that's another thing right:you're, not special, I'm not special. None of US asspecial we're allbasically kind of like a carbon copy of each other mo to work a little bitdifferent time to time. You know, doesn't matter what your religion inyou and I pretty much the same like ye know very different. So if you thinkthat you know something that no other person does you're, probably wrong, soI think that's why Constpatit Yousar just socaly! That's so it's better tojust work together and try to get through hard times yeah, and it's hadit's hard too. Like I understand, I was certainly at a perid in my life, whereI undunderstood what it was like to be deep in that world, because I becomesvery, I become part of a club in a lot of ways if you meet or no someone who'sinto it too, and you both kind of get along and there's obviously been somany things like when, when money's involved, there's been so many thingsthroughout his street. That you could say is a quite unquote anspeciallytheory, but it's not really it's just people that are in a position of powerof money, being bad people and doing bad things and trying to take shortcuts in it happens throughout life like Fori, even even this epstin stuff manat the end of the day, what that is man is that's just so on at the absolutemost deepest second spirit will go is at someone that just wanted to be outto control powerful people, so they wanted to be out of control of politics.whike people do with like people, do right now with Ur moneyand investing at certain parties and people. So that's as far as that goes.It's not this grand plan to you know out people and whatever else a in AIT's.You need something done n. If you've got some some evidence of someone doingsomething bad, you know you can control that person, and you know it's peoplecapitalizing on money. I'm sure there was a lot of money involved with thattoo, so it it is easy to get caught up to itand I' definitely get called up and to it t myself and I have to be constantlychecking myself and making sure I'm actually looking at both sides of theArgumenta you can get. You know...

...something called confirmation bias likeif you've thought about anything. You'V can look that up. You Can Hee thatpoint of view all day. Long, look at the other side of the view see whatkind of is there and formulate your opinion and do at he cannat move on toSta Lett it, but he overtake and that's kind of what happens. Impoe regards asYur protestors, who are doing it tho small percentage that are doing it forthe wrong reasons, and it's the same that the small percentage of peoplethat are conspiracely thirstly, even though it seems like it's a lot ofpeople, Whi H, just the intermite', a very powerful thing, if you know how topretty message up there but yeah. So you can look at it like that, and theredefinitely will be up people that will argue the opposite and say that mostpeople are silly and most people don't Hov common sensees. It's the tempercentthat are right in the ninety. That are wrong. So you know who really knows,but I tend to be a little bit more open, openminded and positive about that. Iguess a hundred percent, and just before wego and o just before we move onto this neck and before I was a comen Husaban,I would't I'm going to make this commit right wit this se. This whole portcasthas been actually an incredible piece of journalism. I guess those degreesthat gulies are paying off Mak and that heckt come back. CONACT Osiventaly Oknow because this was Anlan letic fool. If that's bat, Ri, that's Wrye S, youknow Ke that had a good conversation we kept both of each other, honest andwe're doing it in our lives too. Making sure that would bring in you know,ourself up and we're bringing that sort of to the table and me not just goingoff and falling and slipping away, because you need that it's easy. It'seasy to caught up UN one hundred and ten percent, and and the coment I wasgoing to make was misinformation is one of the biggest problems in societyright. The biggest problem we have is not bores or crump or any of those ismisinformation. The reason I say that misinformation, just if you, if you don't realize the wall, the problemisinformation just look at the WH- The problem of the big H problem with babyFormila in Asia, but that's because something I think w was that ex I don'tremembr once again. This is this could be Moch in a way of being shipped overthere. The whole problem started: ropenatinlyNestley Nestley, sending out their workers. They sallspeople dressed inwhite, but never saying that they were doctors or something like that andsuggesting that they should take up netless, baby formula and obviously nes the Babi former, andthen parents just thoughd. That was the better way to go. andstartbreastfeeding the kids, Yeah Yeah Nand, I cann't be wrong. I don't know thecreck all the facts here, but I remember studying this: That's how itwas, and there was a big debate about it, because that was unethical to dobecause they didn't know t if they were doctors, because all of his they justthout of this doctor, a broad type thing situation. So misinformation is ahuge problem and because you could try to crack mis information, itd neverreally works, because you know, let's to say one ay information. SPREADSLET'ssay it's like error. I T S. it's like Ot, you shouldanl, never come back toyour binkind of situation. So once you say something about misinformation,because there might be someone who never listened to the next thing. Justlisten to this one thing and they'll mo go on the rest of their life, believingthat tact. You know s its such a huge problem withmisinformation, but we you know we right now is the biggest problemmisinformition, but n flipped, the coin over. I guess and of this'll, be mylast little fo. You know you always have people growing up old mate knewthis and Gargo as John. He knows everything. So we have you know in onewe haven't abundant to information. We have the ability to find out almostanything which is beautiful, but then we also have the ability to see a lotof being that books, credible, a shoull, be credible or isn't, and we AV bely thconsumed that as well. So O it's a Lebral, slop IUT, that's Lif! Isn't Ihat in laug the rule of the TUMMIES? If theinformation that you got was too convenient now that the chesses areis probably not accredible, the more credible information, ao, morencredible information, it's a little bit harder to get andyeah. It's realyhard to explain her yeah Understan hard to understand it's harder to go. Readthe and read the actual paper, an the Cothe Congress right to actually getexact. The paper out amount of a bill. It's a LITTL, easier to go, read a PNews, article from Channel Nine, despite the fact that they may havechanged Soe of the Information Too Yeo yeak. What I'm saying, but if you wanedan American formission you'd go read the actual paper of the buill you'd goactually eash the pill same thing with like when, let's say when you read abook, Wes O, listen to a portcast, you could listen, Tho sportcass you couldget. Some of the information is crrect. Some of it is our opinion t. But if youcoul read a book about you know psychology and about politics, you geta lot more ONI Youd e B, more fectual, but it requires more effort as well. SoI think what it's a rule of time is if the information was too easy for youto get. No. That is probably no as credible. I I, I think, that's a goodrule for me at least that's the rule. I...

...work off, but then again you know youcould read a book. You could read. You know paper afte, you know a bill. Thatis actually not the Bil who knows right, but the point is generally the chancesa if I'm going to read a bill out of DDNUSTRIAL in government or the bureaustats or whatever right it's going to be probably more closer to the truththan what Channel Line provides me or facebook. One of my, my friends, FasemoBoston about certain things, yeah more. If they're not and you're going to beable to figure it out, you're going to be able to see another sidewere, youknow e. We spend most of our time on their social platform and that's kindof what wee you know. That's probably affecting a lot of it too. A lot ofthose conversations. We have an online and people can kind of say whateverthey want. So hey like ndefinitely, it's you know way consuming the mediatoo. So it is it's a consonate volution fom by friends, but men. If, if that'sthat's anything else, you want to Addbro, if not ma. That was really good,that w. That was also a matter. If I could really really enjoy that, when wegot intos some deep waders, they might but o thin came ac stronger and it's abeautiful thing, such a good episode to be back at such a strong episode. Ithink I'm very excited t we back and keep lesscommit to a weekly episode.Lokwod Ri, Yeahi, O erfore've got it o an we're Goin to do it. We'Le Tryg, toplug in as much AF. We can' even feel some of those gaps. 'cause. I thinkit's. U. We can do this more often that wee just gotto give ourelves bedisciplined enough at least o commit to once a week and and just just go withthe flowman get out of my own head in a lot of ways and just have fun and dowhat we do. We learnd what we're doing so and all the an and you know to becompletely onest. I've been for a very long time. I've been holding back mypolitical views, ond songs as Fari. I it's go. Toen Ien like there's somethings that you were saying there that Um it's. You know it's kind of on ourend a little bit to not try to rap the web too, deep as well when Ju Fou runup point, so we can definitely go into a certain topics, but we're going tohave some really fun debates. CUS 'cause, we think, have great opinionsand we both feel very strongly that W we lave seck yea it's going to be aswellseems like ctome sportcas. Also, no les thepolitical debate o a o was a emoral technique. Potyfromnow anywaythis is it so it's been good tobe back and ill. Let you wrap up lockl and e. Now think you might love you doepersode number thirty and think you guys werseting if you're on spotifyapple play whereese, can that jackets out mad on the website. You canobviously see hur some of the socials instigrant facebook at flaver, dummiesat clamatames and look up us on Google were PR likes. Wev You Kop on reviewside on Portla side. WEARE now were nown. Google Pot CASSIC CHEC OU goas onGoogle potcast, which is available on ion an android as well as on thewebsite, which is actually up will be up later tomorrow, which is ww w doCBERTOES Pocasto Conto, you no EI pot. Caste Prom is international now, sothat's alsome also offis welso very exciting that coit all and they mat allthat socials, where you could check us st give us some freeback Yo love hereand a even the funs up e bumbs down scapable Rollinyeah, that's it, and ifwe got any aportical arguments you ould like to have, please excuse a shos andwith your forecast together and wo reparly what they gi. We neede to ShaanMI, solesioive, htocha, Wason, mhthisnwer,.

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