The Clever Dummies Podcast
The Clever Dummies Podcast

Episode 10 · 2 years ago

The CDP // Ep10: Coronavirus ?

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To one and we're live. Welcome everybody, episode number ten of the clever dummies podcast. I think we might be getting at the stage where we actually don't need to introduce ourselves. We can just roll in, but we going to anyway. Lucky doing by Nick is always how you going today, my brother? Incredible, loving life, you know. Well, you think that's that's my default answer. I am truly loving life, but you know, you know, sometimes different manners and whatnot survival mode. And we had to do it, brother. It's a should be a spirit of madship and friendship and coming together. And these desperate times we brought on our good friend Tern Samonte, the better half of zero media, if I don't like for that by myself, and I mean episode six, when he was last on. That was our highest rated. We actually had boundless amount of the email. So before we get the big big dog back, how you going to that? Yeah, good man, good to be back on with your boys. So yeah, let's let's get it going. I'm excited. We should. We should get him back on more often. Yeah, I agree. I mean he could be a permanent third wheel. Will have to sholesish in that. Yeah, well, moost look, most of the people am around are usually in relationships, except for an eat, so I'm pretty well familiarized with the whole food wheels situation. So yeah, they you know, how to come at it from a different angle way. So you're want to say that's good. How we go on anyway, boys, you guys. Obviously it's bit hard, hard answer, questioned answer, because we're all kind of fucking Batman struggling, but I'll start with your nique. How you going? Anyway? I might handling things. I can all right. Look, I'm pretty good. I'm good, I'm feeling good, and this is this is is a mixture of things. What's happening? I feel okay and I'm trying to feel okay as well. I think there's a certain extent of thing where I am sort of struggling in a sense where I'm not sure if I'm feeling hundred percent. Yet I feel okay, I mean I'm the problem is this so much media bombard media's bombarding us with so many things, and I you know, obviously I'm I understand the severity of the situation, but I'm also trying to consciously starting to stay positive. So between the two of those. I'm struggling in a sense where, you know, I sit down to work or sit ou't sit down to do something. It feels like I'm doing a lot but not getting much done. So look suffering a little bit like everyone else. Yeah, I found that too with my study. Like you, your abaility to liken block out the noise and just kind of get the job done a little bit harder. You just feel a bit more distracted. Purpose is still there, but it's a little out of reach. There's other things that are more important that they're going on right now. Don't know what's happening. So it's just that UN certainly makes a little bit more difficult. But you know the Times that we always spoke about getting through the hard eyes, this is the hard eyes now. Like it. It fits a different feeling. You think I'm going to be ready for I'm going to be ready for anything. Then actually comes into like Holy Shit, like this is different, but you just got to stay stay positive. Like it's it is an attituting and it's hard, definitely hard to stay positive. But speaks the alternative, I think. What about your Testa? How you go on my yeah, doing pretty good. I mean this the beginning of this year has been quite a change for me at least. You know, I read from Sydney, obviously, then I moved to Melbourne for work for a couple of years and now I'm back in Sydney. So sort of kind of adjusting back to my life that I had previously when I was, you know, here in Sydney, but with all the new sort of lessons and experiences that I've, you know, learned from moving out away for those two years. That's interest the lat the last thing I want to do is really fall back into my old habits. You know, I'm not going to say that they were completely bad, but there was definitely some habits there that, you know, I wanted to change and I feel like I have achieved that. So I'm I'm just a lot more wary of making sure that I don't fall back into those habits. You know, I'm so so far, so good. You know, I've been it for like two months now, so we're on the right track and we're doing pretty good. So I'm pretty happy with that. As far as the world is concerned, obviously, Yep, as a nique and yourself addressed it, a lot of things are happening. But what can you just take it there by day and just stay home? Yeah, stay home, bitches, Code Bush fires, the Covid A. That's actually an interesting point of something I didn't think about. Like, I haven't since I've moved out of my parents place in two thousand and fifteen, I haven't moved back in. What was that like? Like this that? You know, you said you were a different person, which is really good. You would have probably come back and probably seen things from a different angle and appreciated your parents a bit more and maybe remember the things that you're like. I don't know. What was that like? Well, I mean, first of all, my relationship moving out, my relationship with my family has gotten a lot stronger. Yeah, you know, I used to be a pain. Now I'm just a little bit less of a pain. We yeah, that that's it. It's...

...a male thing. That side of things is great, but yeah, just as I've, as I mentioned before, like I've grown so much since then. Like it's sometimes when I'm when I'm here on my own, which is most of the most of the time, I have a lot of time to think to myself and I sometimes I realize just how much I've experience and how much I've grown and how different I see things nowadays. And you know and I'm really proud of that. So coming back home and and being exposed to all the things that I was exposed to before I sort of grew into the person I am now was a yeah, it's very, very like, Oh, this is this is sort of familiar territory, but also like dangerous territory, because I don't want to get back into those old ways. But it's good now. It's good. It's definitely still good. Home is home and families family. So yeah, that's good. I think that's one thing where all three of US could be very thankful for. Was We all come from a pretty good upbringing. Stable house, loving family, brother and sisters, annoying brother and sisters, but regardless, that's what family is going to be like. So that's a beautiful thing. A lot of people in the times like these, like a lot of people, don't have that. A lot of people have what's going on in the world and then have difficulties at home. So both pretty were all pretty lucky though that sense. But yeah, I don't know, I don't know how I'd go moving back into my parents house full time. It's also a privacy thing, you know, like yeah, you need that privacy. Yeah, you definitely do. It's also a full time job moving back into your parents police yeah, well, that's right. Tending to eat. Yeah, that's a good thing. That lively. Boys. You could like not talk to each other for a few days and it's all good, but if you don't talk to him mom for a day, you think that you've bucking. I's like, I mean turn us and I used to argue all the time. We used to go days in like massive arguments. It was, you know, and breaking when I got toilet say stuff, or what I think our arguments when we first moved in together, because obviously we moved for work the same time. Most of their arguments came from obviously little things, because we were just adjusting to the whole life style of living, you know, with a mate. You know, like you, you think of it like outside of that situation and you're like, Oh, yeah, I could, I could live perfectly fine with my mate, you know, we get along same interest of that kind of stuff. But then you start living with someone and because you're with them seven and in an econoe situation. We worked for the same company as well. So, yeah, you just see him at home. I saw him at work as well, and it was just a constant, constant thing, and then you just get agitated and little, little trivial things. But yeah, I think it was just adjusting to that and then towards the end of the year and then into the second year that we were there, we started to kind of grow up a little bit. And Yeah, you kind of crew past that phase. A yeah's no sexual release between the both you either say just kind of you can't break that. Can get the fact thig. Yeah, it's builds up that. Yeah, that one night, you know, one night and and it got, it got, it got real good. Got Out of here that. Well, let's talk about because we, I mean it seems like we've been we've disappeared for a bit, because we have an uploaded a new episode in almost two and a half, three weeks. There was an episode that we recorded Lacklan, but we didn't actually end up uploading that, reason being we didn't think you was the best. I think, like, like we said before, we all sort of going through this downwards. I think the whole world is going through a downward spiral. But now it's the equivalent of a windows this stuck crashing, but the whole world wide. Yeah, of course you would make that fucking yeah. So you know which I think. So, which is really interesting. So let's talk that. But that for a second, I think, is there's a lot happening right now and you know, the word is absolutely sort of gone mad. I guess in a way we're I mean, it's Norman's falled, but it's just something like the situation is. It's a bit crazy, isn't it? It's absolutely unpressed it at it and that's the hardest part about it, because there's like nothing really to kind of fall back upon and land upon. The's no real other example that we can go back and say, Oh, this is what it was like when it happened. Like there's been massive there's been world wars, has been travesties, but in the modern era, like since the Internet, since since really, I mean you had nine eleven, but that only affected set like that. Hasn't been anything like this probably since the s when the Vietnam War was last round, and that was a different story because you were going over there and finding it. It didn't it wasn't a battle where everyone kind of had to be a part of it, and that's start of it for me. I didn't like all of us, I didn't really understand severity of it and I didn't think it was going to be on our home front, on our home soil, so quickly. So you're a little...

...bit blase ay by it, and so I think I was a little bit blindsided by it too. Obviously, me and my fan say, Charlotte, will planning to get browed next next Thursday. So like I was pretty set on that. had been said on that for every years. I just wasn't thinking about it. I might lose a few hours of work because people don't want to travel because they're worried, but it's actually it's going to be all right. And then he sort of just go in and fucking realise how serious it is. Obviously what happened in Italy was the kind of a set the example for the rest of the world, like don't fuck around with this thing, like don't fucking take this thing like it's just going to blow over and it might take a few of the oldies and like this this thing was killing seven, eight hundred people in night in Italy and there's obviously factors that go into that. So that's kind of when it got pushed on to us and then it's just like been a little bleed on effect. And for me, I like I have, like I always I struggle massively discipline and I struggle with like I know what I want to do, but I struggle with the kind of the practical element of it. So when something happens that's out of the ordinary, I kind of find that I find an easy way out for myself and I kind of give myself that excuse. But I was so determined this time for it not to happen that I kind of also gave myself unrealistic expectations like, Oh, this is not going to affect me if this doesn't matter what. The affects your routine like it affects what you do every day, it affects the way you see people who you can see. So you have to kind of be prepared for that element. I feel like I've got through a little bit of that bad initial stage now and kind of pushing on. Obviously the financial burden and stresses there and I'm more concerned about other people than I myself, obviously, but it's just been an absolute roller coaster and I feel like as a nation, Australia has done a really good job. We've been led pretty well from the front. It's always like a lot of negative things that are put on our government, just like any government, but I feel like we're in a pretty good situation compared to the rest of the world. So just got to be able to take a positive one day out of time and back. I got a couple hours that you need done today. I'm like the lawns as I can stay off morn up. You know, it was fucking good. That was a good fucking day. So, like, it is what it is. So that's what we've got to be able to do. And we all know what to do, like get the positive and rumber awhile or this sort of thing. But it's kind of like this rule. It's a rule experience where you need to actually go ahead and do it. What's you know, it's easy to give advice and an easy situation, I guess. Look at absolutely and I think we can sit here and make comments on as to what people should do, but at the end of the day we don't know what people are going through, you know, we don't know what people. We didn't know what people are going through before. We didn't know what people are going through before, and especially with something such such as this, something so, like you said, UN presidented happening, like it's such a like you cannot make any judgment or you cannot place up any judgment because you just simply don't know what's going on with people. Right. But I agree with you and I think I want to. I just want to quickly at talk about that for a second. As into it. We you know, we're talking about how the government is doing, and I mean I'm hearing it from are not everyone is. There's a small group of people who like like to complain about things, right, which is which is all find in this scenario, in this scenario, and this something like people are suffering. Right. Once again, I don't know what they're going through, but I keep hearing that all government is doing a horrible job and, you know, this person should be shot and this is like a horrible things, right. What? What that to me sounded like you don't want to work together. You know, and I said this before, and I made a little video talking about dinner this. I said, you know, I'm sure the government is doing a horrible job, but right now it's more important to work together, to make sure we're listening to what they're saying and and using some using some of like some vigil like self vigilance, as well, to make sure we work together as a nation and we can save each other. So I think that's important. Well, like I think that's the case with a lot of things that happen in the world today, and it's just like people are always looking for at least what I find is people are always looking for, you know, someone else to blame or like an external thing, you know, like to shift it to to someone else or but maybe to make themselves feel better or whatnot. But like they're always I think. I think it's because they're looking for someone to blame in a sense, where because when you put a face to a problem, it's easier to say, okay, you know, I it wasn't it's not my problem. I mean so many of people who are suffering financially could have easily save a few thousand dollars have like an emergency fun. But you know, it was it was a lot easier not to do that. So you know, and I you know we talked about this before, like you, a Ternus, you and I always just talk about how important that is. Right, those people could have easily done that, right. Just mean it's like, you know, we've done this before. I'm spoken about a little bit of finance before. All it takes is like twenty dollars a week to do that. Over the years, something like this never really happens, but it it is possible.

Right. So if they did that, they wouldn't have to blame the government. I think the rule is, if you don't like the system, stay out of the system. The way you can stay out of the system is by doing things like that, like saving up a little bit of money emergency fun. Because now those are those people who are right now talking about the government not doing a great job, at the same people filling out government forms to get the government support. So it's a bit of a contradiction, but that's not what we're gonna talk about. I think what's important is this is this sort of almost wraps up whole bunch of our episodes into one episodes talking about resilience as to how you stay resiliing through something like this as well. As you know, we talked about grateful, being grateful and we talked about fear. Right, all three things coming and and ownership right. All four things come into play because, when you think about it for a second, Lacklin, like we used to talk about, like, you know, we always had something to complain about, but all of a sudden, when something like this happens, all of our problems that we used to have seemed so much smaller. Right now that we in this situation, we have to just quickly think to ourselves. Could it get even worse what I have? I'm grateful I'm still able to talk to my friends. I mean, thank God, presume right. Yeah, Kilena, I love that mean that you shared. Were like, scoop, you do. He's behind the kind and it's I could do because they get so much business. Well, I'm on training and back again and ship, but hand. That's funny. That's funny. And we are so blessed. We are so blessed and like, yeah, when you think about it, we're specifically, you know, for us being in Australia, we are, you know, so privileged with what we're at the moment. You know, the things we have access to still and you know, just having a roof over your head. You know, let alone being able to get all these other things, like all these other resources and Moreno, you know, some people don't have that, that luxury, but you know, to us it's so easy for us to take advantage of that because we were born into like with all these things around us and so so easily attainable. So, you know, we, we, I think we forget that a lot. If people forget it's easy too. There's like we that's it. The beautiful thing about living in a country like we do is you don't have to worry about that. But this is a beautiful example that you do. Like you just don't know what's going to happen, and that's maybe something you can speak on more of the make. Like I'm in the same situation where we were lucky enough. The positive of not getting married is now we have four and a half thousand dollars that we can spend, so that's not too bad. But, like, there are a lot of people didn't have the financial and, like we, we all we all know like save for a rainy day. There's something's going to happen like that, you know, but it's just like hard to now. Hopefully people coming out of this will have their emergency find that they will. You know they will. Bloody I was just thinking about the jury you made about before and half it's hard for me to be too upset because, fucking we're going to pay to the dollars for a photographer. We that DT eve anymore so. By the way, by the way, I don't know, I don't know if you knew, but terms is a photographer. He is, but he's also in the in the fuck is my grooms. You know that's it. Can't do double up. So just just like, yeah, absolutely in the stress of doing a wedding man like that, fucking work afterwards every photo. fucking no, just that's it. Not like you got to think about like, you know, stress of running a government in the situation. Yeah, she imagine bet stress of photographer at a wedding. Note. Times that by how many. Yeah, it's no surprise. I mean you can say what you want and you know, you don't know. One really likes trump. You might like what he stands for, kind of a bit of a rebel, but not really likes him as a person. But I just love he's fucking just doesn't give the funny doesn't give me Shit. It's like I did attaining man. It's so good. Do you think he's done just the Chinese virus? It's the Chinese virus and came from China and it's the Chinese virus. It's a brier. Do you think he just doesn't understand? He's he's like a seventy, I don't know, seventy seven year old dude. He's he came from wealth. His Dad was in real estate, I think as well. We came the real state. It was on the apprentis for ten years. You're fine. He fire parents for a small loan of a million old things, more smaller of not companing way. Yeah, so like it. He came from that thing. You know, granted, he did really well in real estate. There's been plenty of examples where he hasn't done well and to Shitload of golf courses. Like he's made some shit from himself, but he was paid. He's big. Probably the thing that he would be most happy about in his life prior to being president as being his hairline. Reality. Yeah, he's fucking great here. Like would be reality TV show for ten years called the apprentice, where he was getting unifier. You know, basically he was paid and people loved him for being that person. So he's like even whoever he is in real life, he isn't that person anymore. He's just become that person. So, like it's not surprising of what he's...

...done, and I look at it from the example that the system had been broken for such a long time that, I mean, fuck, it wasn't. You know, it's not. You don't necessarily want to go like that leading, you know, the biggest country in the world, theoretically one of the biggest countries in the world, but fuck, it is what it is. They fucking they kind of did it to themselves in a way, putting up a bloody seventy right, seventy eight year old woman for he's going to get voted in again because because not that many people like what's that guy's name? And then Joe Biden can barely string a sentence together. So they're not putting any good competition up to thee like he was talking. If I watch any of the other day, he forgot what he was saying is, but he it's called bordline our songs. Like I'm not trying to shit on the like. It's a serious disease, but, like, what are we doing. I get some fucking young well, that's it. I was just going to say we're got to get these into good and leaders are like, I mean, you know, one wants the job, rod to shit job. It's a horrible like I couldn't imagine. You know, there's there's two things I want to say here right. First thing is the fact that it's too much pressure on one week in person, to too much pressure on one freaking person person. So I think it almost has to we almost have to change the government structure. Yeah, honest, I wouldn't be surprised, after this whole episode of this pandemic, that we start real looking at us, to how this whole government situation work. Yeah, definitely, it was well gather. And second thing I was gonna say, like we gotta get rid of these antiquated leaders. Like you know, I use the word antiquated over and over again, the reason being I'm not saying they old, because I have nothing against all people. What I do have something against is the people who are not understanding what's going on in the world. Yeah, you know, and I don't think look, doesn't matter who trump is, doesn't matter who Scott Morrison is, just like our parents. They cannot keep up with what's happening in the world. Because how well is your parent, how well are your parents keeping up with how what's happening with the technology? Just think about that for a second and now put that that put that person who does who can't, freaking you know, who keep forgetting their facebook past. What I'm having to really see a new person around in charge of a free country. You think about you think about Scott Morrison. I mean honest, look, I'm I'm not. I'm not. I'm not saying that he's doing a bad job right now. Like everyone else. You know, I think he's doing he's doing well as a well, I think it's laying well. Yeah, he can do well as he can in the given the situation. And Yeah, I think he got it. Doesn't really know how to talk properly. I think he sucks at speak, but I think he's doing it okay job. In saying that, I think I think he's he's an honest speak he's not a corporate he's not a corporate speaker, but he's I like it because he's on like he doesn't. He doesn't. It's like, yeah, he doesn't sound as scripted as yeah, st others do. But yeah, so I can say. But he looks like the kind of person who forgets his facebook password and goes to create you one. Does he know? He just goes, especially Scott Moris and Scott Morrison's yeah, to come. Yeah, two hundred and forty eight at gamilecom do break. I mean no, I want to use a good example, and people don't actually have to like her, because I know a lot of people don't. Necessarily, not really a huge pan over, but I actually think the Prime Minister of New Zealand is doing great. She she did. She did like this live video sitting in a lunge after putting a total less to dot let's to bed, and she's just sitting there, you know, saying hey. It's just the fact with that, specifically the fact that she was, you know, at home. Yeah, would just put out told those way. It's just it's a more of a it just people see as that the prime minister, you know, these big figure, this person who leads the country and whatnot, but then when they realize that, hey, she's just a normal person like us, it's a relatable I think that. Yeah, it's a perfect opportunity for times to change, for politicians to use social media more like celebrities are, and obviously don't want politicians fucking yeah, in a boys fucking scam on the on the baby. It's like you don't want that shit happening, but just to let us know like it. The corporate world is like not over, but it's fucking over, like the media, the old school media's dying, like the way business has traditionally been run. His bucking over, like it's time to move on, it's time to not fucking are my we're getting FA can give some money to education. The sports ministers don't know fucking telescope's actually happening, like we're not. You guys are treating us like dumb shits. So that's why, if I can, Isaac Butterfield's come in and fucking when, because he's just like he's giving us a different example, like he's a comedian. Get the day, but like that's why, that's why, the that's I actually have some really good I think the Internet's a beautiful thing, obviously, and I think in times like these, it's it's showing us not just in the practical element of business and everything else, like what you guys have spoke about on your previous videos. Shoutout to there a media. Of course they're the stuff. That is an awesome VI they're really in lining enlightning video on kind of the future the world's headed. But like it is, like it is, like it's not just the business world, it's the world in general, like, and we saw how easy it is. Now, like there's a little bit of a growing pain and it's a little bit harder. But what the fuck is a hundred and twenty thousand people in western Sydney getting...

...a train into the bloody Sydney Harbor, fucking flood in the area making an absolute fucking shit all when half of those jobs can be done from home and people can live a better quality of life? And you know what it comes down to? I think it comes down to force. Very Long Time people didn't want to change because they had been doing something for such a long time and they didn't want to change. But for now something like this happens. And you know, we're terns and I were talking about this in our video. I said people are like a people are bombarding me with emails and phone call saying Hey, okay, well, you know, remember how that one time you said let's make our severer into cloud. So how do we go about that? You know, it's funny because at the time when I said let's addy coming back here. Yeah, but that's where you guys have to pay there to provide the service and what? That's it. You can tell them, fucking look what I told you of, but also be like, all right, people don't learn it, so they have to and that's exactly I like. I can't blame people for them, because I know how hard it is for small businesses to do day to day and like try and do something like change everything and staff, resilience, all these things. But I think that's a lesson as a nation, as a actually as a planet, that we can learn, that we need to be we need to progress and we need to progress in a sense where we progressing the right way. And I mean I'm also seeing the dark side of technology coming up as well, like you see the dogs. I'm say you, we make sure we stay very of that. We understand what's going on with the dark side of technology, and but what we do, like you know, what we do, is we adapt what's what the technology can provide us. Those technology a beautiful thing. In turn is a beautiful thing. Now the downside to the Internet. The fact is right now everyone is expert, so no one is actually listening to the experts about this pandemic. Right, yeah, so, you know, that's why I made a video and I said like Hey, I don't know what's going on with this whole thing about economics. Right, I'm not an economic economic, economic, economic. What are the people because the economics, right, what do people go? Who Do Economics? A economicsonomist, an economist almost, yeah, it's almost. Economist, yes, economy economist, a yeah, are Asian head. Yeah, you know, we're not on Econo. We're not a economics. So in that sense, you know you can't talk about that. But what you got to understand is, you know, it's good to keep up with you keep away with people, but you still, yeah, you can still not know how to pronounce a way, but you have a general understanding of pous and it's everyday expenses. Had A manage basic expenses of businesses, how people might be spending big goals in one area and then they're not yet. So this looks like good. So when people are saying close US down and I'll be seeing some statusism, videous people saying please cause us down. I'm like, men, just go home, like you don't understanding what's happening. Like well, an ache, sorry to cut you off, but that's what you were like touching on that, the whole shutting down part. You know, the other night you gave me a calling. You are said we were discussing the whole how people, you know, I say, just shut us down, shut Ustad and shot us down, and obviously everyone has their own opinion on on that kind of stuff, but I like what you said when you were like, you know, it's specifically with businesses. Is the fact that, you know, if the like these some several sorry, businesses in general need to not wait for the government to announce or everyone's shutting down. These businesses all have the shutdown. This stablebler. If you, as a business owner, think that shutting your business down will be for the better and and whatnot, obviously still looking after your employees in some way, given the situation, I think that's the right thing to do. I don't think I don't think they should be waiting for the government to necessarily make a clear decision. That, you know, means all businesses have to close down. I think, you know, at least the way I see it as as a business owner, as well as if I think that's the right thing for Myo, that if I think that's the right thing that I will do as a business earner and shut my business down. You know, I mean, like I'm not going to wait for the government to make the announcement. And if they do, that's fine. They can still go ahead and do that, but I'm it's just the point. My point here is, rather than just nagging all over the Internet and saying shut us down, shut us down, shut us down, I think they should just take it into their own hands if they are a business owner and shut it down. Anything but down. They're in a circle. Do because you don't. Ultimately, you don't have control of a lot of people, as many people as you think like that's that. That might be the negative. Like there's a we all have our own voice now with the Internet. That's the plus side the negative, and I'll make sure you see my hands, because good speakers use their hands when they talk right. So the positive, the positive of the Internet is we all have a voice, we have ability to get you know, something's going wrong. We have an ability that get that out there and let people may be aware of it. The...

...negative is people kind of think their voice is more important than them actually is. You've got to stay humble and then they think that I can do all this or that and they just don't have an understanding of how the economy works, how businesses work out. Like an all my dave across the road, if he shuts his bloody brick and mortar business for a week like he has to, he's not in a situation where he's got a anything outside of that and then he might go down to so like there's so much more that goes into it. That's why I like a guy on instagram. He has an instagram page, but he's a he's a he's a doctor. He's also got a major in economics as well, so he's a do that's fucking been writing amongst these names. Peter a teer, just you hear the guy speak and you know he's the Gitty. Doesn't make bold claims. Everything's back by science or back by statistics. subpeter a teats a double, a t IA and it's MD at the end of Businessagram page is made them really awesome id TV, the IG TV videos about it. A basically, he's put a team together of epidemiologists, of fucking health scientists, of everything else, and they still they're working back in night and day and they still don't know what's going on. They know that we've got to be cautious and you can't have large gatherings, we can't have sporting events, we can't have all this sort of thing. But if you shut the shit down then, as they say, the cure is going to be worse than the the problem. Well, if you see, got so it's just about knowing what's you know and knowing if you'd like, if you actually don't know what's going on. Like, don't be we shouldn't be thinking like fuck, I'll keep in my opinion anyway. Just be like well, I think we should do this, but I actually don't. Well, that's exactly why I think the biggest problem is right now there's so many people are watching youtube videos and coming out and writing their opinions on face the news, bright and and and I'm going to get to the news in a second, by Holy Shit, men, those youtube videos. They can convince like some all it takes times okay, you know it turns. You know how good, good these yout we your youtube expert, right. So you know, you see these videos and how convincing are they? You just see this guy, you know, put some you know, some nice music behind it, and it's just like, Holy Shit, the we're gonna all the conspiracist, conspiracy, theorist conspiracy, conspiracy, I love it there for often, right, Fuck, they proten Prof Min there, they're the worst. They're the scum of there, you know them, them, and the media there, the scum of the earth, because what they do is, you think about it, right, what they're feeling of. Same thing with journalists and like, you know, this modern media, not modern media, the mass media, as well as those conspiracy to it, they need two things. They need only one thing, which is fear. Right, fear is always the thing that drives them both. Right. So either conspiracy, theorist making a video about five g right, and I saw this video, and this video was about how five Gee's causing all that and scientists are worried about it. And listen to the scientist. The scientist is saying, scientists all is. It goes and a the video switches to the scientist scientists saying yes, so they could be problem caused, and it's switches back to him. I'm like, he could be talking about anything. It could be talking about anything. You just took that cut and put him into your video and now everyone's going to believe you. Right, because people don't think about that. Right, because turns the reason I was going to call you a call, you just call to goal, to you to speak, it is because you know how it is easy this to just take a video, put a cut into a video and make that video sound like I mean, you can manipulate anything nowadays. You know, with with the technology that we we have a fingertips. So fake Brat take faith good today. So, yeah, no, you're right. You know, the ability to just gather clips from all different things and create your own little story with it, and the fact that people don't really go back and do their research and verify things and they just believe what is presented to them. That's a, you know, a part of the issue as well. So, yeah, it's just easy to manipulate all this kind of think. Think of it this way, right, if I was to tell you I was recording a video right now, like hey, guys, so I have officially became the first book of first CENTI billion for his youngest and I billionaire. And I switched to a cut to a video of some lady talking about Jeff Bezos and say the first cent I billion there and you, by just seeing that in your brain, you were like yeah, like, yeah, there's the mass media is talking about him. You know, that's that's how people work. And those conspiracist conspiracy theorist are freaking are you know, they're like yes, this is it, savages. But if I do have to bring you an example from the other side of the pond, what was the thing they all spoke about? They spoke about military engage with keeping people locked inside. I can vaccinations. You have to have the police being able to pull you over and keep you inside the hour. So, mad or d you get to Compilson. But now I think, just like with everything, we should always be weary and care for and greedy people and greedy economies, greedy government's, greedy businesses are going to take advantage of bad situations, like they always have. So like we just have to be when we do see ourselves through this, we have...

...to be careful of, obviously, where we go from here and how much the government is going to appeat on our life moving forward. Obviously the world's going to change forever and it's actually kind of like, if you step back from the situation, like this is a shit we're going to be telling our kids kids about, like this is fucking. This is not fucking world war three, but this is this is some this is back in the legit like this. I think this is in some sense, this is almost more scarier than a world war because, think about it, you know, it has the potential. It isn't has that there's not enough people, because, well, that's the thing. The problem of it not a media hype, that's right, that's right, and media mediant ither we spoke, I think I are. We spoke a spoke about this before. I was just saying I'm going to say do sentences and you tell me how this sound to you. Right. So let's say if there was a hundred fifty six cases of coronavirus in Australia right now. Right. There are a lot more, but I'm just a thousand, three hundred, okay, roughly. YEA, and not in the people passed away. All right, be rest in peace. So let's say if this wash has it, four thousand three hundred people, four thousand three hundred gas in Australia. So there's two ways I can say that. I could say that exact number, which I say, hmmm, yeah, there are four thousand three hundred cases in Australia of coronavirus. Right. That sounds very statistical and very sounds very normal. Now, as a journalist, you want people, you want to create the hide the way you would put it, you decrease the number. You say so it's still technically correct, because you remember that in Media Law and ethics lock on. So what you have to dry provide the right information. So what they would say is day's well about four Tho cases, way more than four though, like you know, the Cases Exceed Four Tho. When you say exceed more, exceed four thousand. Technically they're correct. But what what the what the massages that come across is like, yeah, like four language. Yeah, when it's all scripted, it's all deliberate, it's not just one person say another. And they might even go even deeper. They might even traveled to a fucking nise of Welles country town with twozero people population and go more than double the population of black in Dairyville. Dairy it is actually place in near Cops Harbor, so pretty good. More and more than double the population and Dairyville people are infected. So that's exactly how they'll spin it. When, if you actually break the numbers down, this is how it should be reported, good, bad or ugly. Two hundred and twenty thousand tests of come have occurred approximately in Australian four thousand people. That's about five percent. So yeah, that's fighting fourzero too many. Then we like but five and five percent. Well, pandemic people dine everywhere. We're doing okay. We're not out of the clear and we're not trying to downplay the severity of it, but we also and it's the negative business pre you gonna like. It's a negative story is going to get more people engaged than merit at first sight. Is the biggest show on TV right now. Your expectations. That's exactly right. Now let's let's talk a little bit about we've talked about a lot of negatives, so let's talk about yeah, fuck it, let's talk about how. I think the what this is, what this is gonna mean for all of us and what does this mean for like as the planet, in a sense. And you know what? See, these are the lessons, the lessons that do seem clear to me, that we can learn and, finally, that we need to learn, because everyone knew they need to learn the following. So make sure you set up, shape, same up for a rainy day. That's what lesson, and that's always been obvious. But not it's more abous than ever. Then another what you've got put your life savings the stock market. Yeah, let's too close, though. That too close to hold three year. But I wasn't talked about your specific well, look us. I actually read the book of the book from Tony Robins called unshakable right, yeah, you remember that. In the book talks about it. If you got money in, if you go to your money in the stock market in a recession, just leave it there and forget about it, you know, and it will bounce back up. And that's what I did. So let's so, you know, Save, you save money for a rainy day. Now extreme ownership. This is really, really good, you know, if you take ownership. Think about it, if everyone took ownership, like yes, this is like my control. I need to chalk over link Jack a willing shout out to him as a brilliant right man for thirty year. So you go, you know, same a green day, extreme ownership. You've got you, you know, and then you've got the fact of like, you know how fear impacts, the infection of fear, and the last one being the fact that you know great fun her grateful. So let's talk about those things for now, because I think they are more important than the whole negative things, because we could make six episode about all the negativity. Yeah, it's infected everything. So if I might just go three things that I'm grateful for. Well, I'm going to do the easy one and grateful that way, here and now we can wear in good spirits and we can do this podcast by an awesome podcast. I don't know, Ho how long will be going forward with really good I'm grateful that. I'm grateful that we do...

...actually live in society where the government seems to be doing the right thing by us and actually trying to take care of not just us but small businesses, people affected by it, employees, employers. So I'm grateful that we live in Australia and I'm grateful for my beautiful films. They charlet's seem to be how about that? She's going to be such a good Mama. Well, she's gonna be really good, examly, but I need it anyway. Yeah, start crying, they want. How about yourself? Let turns go first. Well, I'M gonna take the easy about in second and Lucky's first one, which is breaking that were well, I've been healthy and well, then not a treaded but in facted. So we could be. Well, yeah, we could be a symptomatic A. Yeah, that is true. Well, I mean with that last bit, then infected. Keep going to keep going to you doing. You know, I'm grateful for just the safety that I have. You know, at the moment. I think where I am, you know, and like, similar to Laughlin said, how the you know, the government is treating all this stuff, looking after everyone really. So that's obviously a good thing. And, you know, just to be in the comfort of my own home and to be able to isolate here is just a privilege in itself. Let learn all the other things I have. So, you know, that'd be number two, and number three would be my family. Yeah, friends and family. So, yeah, it's so easy to quit, so easy to find the beautiful things in life. Yet yeah, always ignore them. Only it's easier it generally, except for the read example, and there are people out there. But it is so much, so many more positives. Yeah, look, I'm I think we can all say the same thing where I'm really grateful for the fact that, despite the fact that what's happening out there in the world, we're still able to have a voice and have a podcast and to be able to say in good spirits and you know, you know three friends and still have the Internet. I mean, I'm you know, we all technique. Imagine that guy sound far yeah, like you know. So grateful for this opportunity to have a voice and to have a voice with my really good friends, like you know, it's brilliant. So that's I'm really grateful for that. So second that I'm grateful for the fact that I mean in a nation. Same thing, you know, that sort of looks after same same as you. And the last one being I'm really I'm grateful for my family and friends. I have one more actually, so grateful family and so love them. Last one is I am grateful for the fact that I'm not idiot. I'm not an idiot HMM. I don't know if that's a normal but I'm really grateful that I'm not in times like they show. Yeah, people can't hide it when they stress. That's right, that's fucking a toilet paper. People, Finn Show their true callous yeah, like May that scared me because I was just saying to tear US Shas, I was saying, we work with these people, right, we go to work with these people, we hang out with these people, and could be anyone, know for us, you know, could be anyone of us. When I say us, like it sounds like they're like a vampire or like a devil within us. But you know, you never know, it could be any like a the next person, the person next do you could be a bullet pepper holder. and think about it, like I mean, it's it's not. It's not holding to let it, but just chills. How like you know, the fact that they're idiot. Yeah, the ability that critically think. Sorry, go for I just say it really shows the greed situations like this. Yeah, yeah, that's hopefully true. Colors. Yeah, and the ability of the critically think is so important. And that's a great example there, because, like you could say, Oh man, I'm not going to not right at the end of the day, man, this toilet paper is fucking it's a necessity, but it's not really. You can survive without that, bro. Do you have water? Do you have like a little bit of food to eat? You're going to be okay. But yeah, people just cling on and it's just you need to be able to step back from the situation. Go or I might need this shit at my house. I'm going to take as much as I need, no more, because I can all make joey over here. fucking six hundred thousand people over the age of eighty needs this more than I do. Just relax. It's a little bit of this, little bit of this, and people just don't do that. It's going don't kill forty the Parsa so fad in ten hand sanitizers like it. And then there's probably people after the fact that actually got affected by the people that actually didn't want to do the wrong thing. But like Shit, if I don't grab it now, that I'm never going to get it in and that's just a role on it. Oh, that's it. That's exactly what happened. I mean, look, you could clean you ass by freaking having a jumping in the shower. Drug drag your ass across the front yard. I don't. Yeah, you can fucking do a homemade but a and jake the fucking host for the back windows. Yeah, you know. Or you know, let or worst coups to worst, you know, to get heads its worst, just pull them up. You know, that's it. But yeah, why that even who...

...says? Yeah, it's, you know, so far slating anyway. You know, that's exactly. It's a rule. In fact, you'll be better off if you smell like shuld normal come close to you. Testy one. Guess one of our will have that one point five. They're there abouts. You just might get the worst chap of all the time. But anyway, now that's all good. I'm going to I'm going to side step us a little bit. Actually had a question for terrence, and a really interesting one. So when I'm getting there with an all good, nothing to be crazy. So I'm getting into health science now and obviously I'm not just analyzing the way people work out, but why they work out and sort of the changes they make. So you spoke about in your previous video. We all were started working out in that bodybuilding splits. I am chess my days back there. So and now you've you're down the avenue of bloody sport specific but now you're like an endurance sport, like triafleon's, like riding a bike, like serious that you can't do. You can't train the way you were. You have to completely change every cup. You almost have to go back to square one with a new body, different way of eating. I'm sure you're burning way more calories than you did. I guess to two questions. The first one was what was the what was the hardest power about going away from that style of training, because I know for me when I stopped lifting as much weight, so I did it first I was like if if I stopped lifting weights, like I'm going to fucking lose my size and of the shit that doesn't matter. And to like how have you change, like you're eating, like your diet, how is that had to be adjusted fur the way you trained now. So I guess psychologically, how did you adjust to understand that you wanted to train this certain way and you wanted to pursue the sport and then to out of your have just your reading? Well, I think the mental shift for me was the fact that I think I just with my training. You know, as you said, we came from a prominently weightlifting kind of getting stronger, getting big and that kind of mentality, you know, and and that was great. You know, I really enjoyed that stuff. But I think after doing it for several years already, you know, you guys have been training longer than me in that sense, but for me, if on my journey, I'd already done it for so long and you just start to grow out of that kind of routine, you know, you start to you start to want more and more, something more challenging, and you you know, you're just your interest change and stuff like that. So I think for me the first the first point where I started to make that that change into what I do now is just the fact that it wasn't challenging enough, you know. And I think my my mindset changes as well with how I was going with my like outside of the fitness, fitness world. For me, how much I was going there mentally and all that kind of stuff was also having an influence on my my the my physical health and stuff. Yeah, so I think, yeah, and now that I do more endurance space sports, so like triathlons. You know, that's three disciplines, running, cycling and swimming. You know, I've never been great at any of those and I don't think it'll just be an overnight thing. You know, it's not going to be like that. Specifically with swimming, you know, I could barely float. You know, I could barely float in the water, and I signed up for a try an Olympic distance triathlon, which is a one point five kilometers swim in open water. That was meant to happen in May, but it's les. So at that stage you had like you had a basically like you're eight years old, like you learn how to survive, like if you're in water, you can survive, but you are yeah, when a swimmer at Holy Shit. Yeah, yeah, and now. So, yeah, I couldn't do any of that stuff and I just signed up and I was like I'll learn it. I'll learn anyway because I knew I'd wanted to. I don't need that decision to short dedicate myself to that. So that wasn't a problem. But yeah, so I signed up for that and then, you know, I just started training. Started training as as soon as I got back to Sydney. I started training with Tim because he's already been doing a lot of stuff. So I've really been learning a lot of the specifics for the sport and how I should train, the best ways to do things, because he's got a little bit more experience than me. But yeah, now I now my swimming is still still not where needs to be, but it's a lot better. I'm getting in three hundred meter laps continuously in a fifty meter pool, Olympic distance pool. Yes, sixty, I remember. Six laps. Yeah, yeah, I remember my first less, first swimming less, and I couldn't even get halfway. So yeah, it's a lot of progress that I've made in the two months that I've been training. But yeah, I think the reason for that, the change from weightlifting to this kind of stuff, is just the challenge and I find with with specifically with these the triathlet is it's very I guess it. I guess it applies to weightlifting as well, but it's a mental game. Man Yourself, you know, you've had your own journey with fitness. So it's not all it's not all sunshine and rainbows. It's very I always say people tell me that I'm going for a run this that or and I'm like great, that's amazing. And I always like to make the point that it's more than mental game than it is a physical kind of thing. Because, yeah,...

...once you're there, it's just step, step, step step. You know, it's if your mind doesn't give up you, you'll make it to the finish line, but the second your mind weakens and any you know, gets beaten and you're not going to finish, like follows. Yeah, yeah, I think it's just a big learning curve, it's a big personal growth thing and it's a big overcoming fear thing for me and there's a whole lot that comes into it and it's just it's been amazing so far. So I don't regret anything. And obviously, yeah, that's the fear of the fear of losing size or losing strength. You know. Yeah, like for me, I've I was never really the strongest in the gym and I know for a fact now that I'm not as strong that I was when I was in the peak of my weightlifting kind of days. I think that's that's that's another thing where my mentality has changed. It's not about it's not about all I want to be the strongest person and this that I want to look good. I want to look good. I mean you can look great and and props to you, because, you know, getting an amazing physique does take hard work and dedication and and you really going to have strong, you know, stronger mind, be disciplined and all that kind of stuff. So I'm not taking anything away from that, but yeah, I just I don't know. I just think that, you know, it's a whole it's a whole different thing to what I was used to doing before and I'm really happy that I've made this change. Yeah, I thing nice and your food. I guess you're dietwise, like you are. Potentially you're eating more protein and you're probably you're obviously ending a lot more carb hidrates now, because you need to feel for you know, for the to build your aerobic capacity, like in order to push harder like you have to, you have to eat a lot more carves. But like how much is what? How, I guess, to eat more, to eat more often? Do you have bigger meal shorter meals? Like, how is your Diet like? What's that compared to when you were just trying to put size on or trying to move as much away as he could. Well, I think for me at the moment I don't necessarily have a strict, strict kind of meal, meal plan or anything like that. Right. Christian is kind of somewhat the same because I think with the type of sport that I'm doing now, I'm burning so much more. Yeah, yeah, and I'm in I'm in in a I mean that state for a longer period of time. Yeah. So, yeah, like you said, my cobst is probably higher than it's it's ever been. Proteins obviously still there and everything that. And I kind of look over all my stuff and I'm not really like, has to be this many grams of this, this manigrams of that. Yeah, I kind of just feel it out and I just I think it just comes with training is or you just sort of get a feel for your body and you know, you know what's right and maybe what's pushing it or maybe it didn't sleep enough and you're like all shit it, but you need to get a few more hours and not going to be able to push the same and kind of like an interesting I guess, like an interesting little angule to look at it, like your body at one stage only uses, can only store about file or six hundred calories worth of Carbo hydrates at once. So you have like your rice, your potatos all at once. But if you try to eat a little bit more facts, if you try to have some fun peanut butter, some oils, like, if you try to burn through like have more facts in your diet as well, like your body will use the Carbo hydrates first because that's the quickest resource that has. It can break it down really quickly and then you can actually go into like a fat burning stage, not so much because you want to lose that, but so you can use it for energy. But it's just like anything mare. Like we're so blessed to have the Internet because we can just use all these resources and you can find a personal trailer that's done triathleons, you can find word of else. But now it's pretty awesome and I had like an invigorating experience with that as well. Like I haven't gone so much into a sport now, like I've been kickboxing for about eighty months, but I do want to have a fight eventually, potentially a few fights, but that's kind of a fair way down the track. I went into the I went into it just wanting to get healthy and fitter and then by doing a task like that, like I found myself more committed and everything else. But yeah, I still have my my split days and everything else, but just by enable training. So we're focusing more on like raising the heart rate, lowering it back down, doing a bit of but it like strength exercises with conditioning, like having that kind of versatility and range of motion, mobility, like kind of having that more well rounded. Well, that's exercise. That's what I really was like, because I felt like I was really good in a couple of areas and I certainly was pretty flexible, like I was okay, like I felt good, but like it just it took and it was probably just falling out of love with it. Like I kind of needed to find a different way to train, because I just was like I didn't get I didn't have enough reasons to go to the gym anymore. I couldn't find it and then just by by going into a different avenue, I was like Shit, this is this is great, and now I feel that great. But yeah, that's and going back to the whole you just touched on,...

...like mobility and flexibility and all that stuff, like I took that stuff for granted, you know, back in the day when I started off on my training journey, like I didn't care about proper stretching and yeah, warmed up and whatnot, proper you know, you know, just picked the cat up, fact it out. Yeah, but like now, now more than ever, that stuff is so important with training that I do in the tribe of sport that I do. You know, having full range of motion and and being flexible is is, so, so important. You know. That prevents injuries and it's just you know, I do I do yoga three times a week, probably not as often now like I used to go to I give go to classes at the gym brand. Yeah, they're all closed up now. I have to do it at home. You know, starting that, you realize just how stiff you actually are. Man Like. Yeah, some people that. I'm like, how do you you know, like doing that? That's so crazy. I can barely get an, you know, a quarter of the way. Yeah, it's like it really puts things in perspective. Is I want to come back, though. I. Yeah, that's how he is amazing. The body can move in so many different ways and is is so like limber and stuff, but we're just so stiff. So that's a big goal of mine as well, is to become literally like just my mobility and my yes, I just want it to be like top like making yeah, that's a goal of minds. Yeah, yeah, and that I can particularly in like a high like a sport that you're doing, where you're just putting a lot of toll on your body and you're required to use like a large portion of your rogue capacity, large portion of your lungs, like you're putting a lot into each workout. So you need to be able to bounce back and you're not putting quite the strange as where you were, like when you do every squat, sort deflator everything else, so you're not breaking down as much muscle fiber. So you don't need to recover in that sense, but you need to be able to fucking reach that fucking ninety percent, that fucking and that's a way you train. Now. You have like your four different zones, right, so you have your bloody fifty two, sixty seven away to you and then you're too pasty, say, in order to reach that, you need to be yeah, like the stiffer you are, the more like the acid gets built up and say your legs and it doesn't have the ability. That floor for your body in these get tight and shit. But that as you get older, like you actually, when I was young, I didn't care about that stuff. I didn't. I was like fucking dieting in the ship. Barely. I barely know how to bloody get my life to get like I didn't care. Now it like as you get old, he kind of learn a bit more and you feel like you can it just like optimizing, just like as a make spoke about, like you becoming like an optimized person, like you have to treat every area like if you just go to the gym and fucking train like whatever, well, then there's an area of a life there that's kind of slipped out of it. And I said this before. I was I it's seven. So it may sound like really cocky and all that kind of stuff, but at the end of the day I just want to be a fucking animal, and oval animal across all areas. You know, justs ability, cardio, strength, you know all that kind of stuff. You know and and like I said before, how I came from a pron primarily like strength based fitness background. That stuff is still I still do that stuff. It's not like I'm just stopped lifting weights. Yeah, I still it's important to to. Yeah, I still with the weights now. It's just, yeah, the why I lift weight is different. It's not to build nice muscle and all that kind of stuff and look good or just lift the most. It's more about strengthening the muscle and, you know, making sure that it's strong so that I don't injure myself and, yeah, I can perform well. So by density. Yeah, it's more so full performance now that other wait's rather there the strength and and trying to pack on muscle. Yeah, not saying that's that or anything to do to finally trained to like eighty percent capacity. Now, like you don't. You don't ever go all out with a with a lift. Well, I know there are days. There are days where, like you know, I do give it a full Max effort button. I think with everything that I'm doing I have the play. It's smart. So and that when I say play, it's my means. I don't mean to like give forty percent to this and and eighty percent of this. It's just being smart about how I how I train, because the load is so much every week. But yeah, it's all it's all about performance right now rather than, you know, my other I think the goal there is in in putting on a more of a macro level, is the goal is to be the all around better human and to be, as you know, more to words, being as superhuman as you can be. And it's not just when that, when you talk about something like that. It's not just fitness, which is true. Like you know, weight's a part of it. Being able to run the bottle of it. Being able to swim is part of it. And what all those things signify to me. You know, swimming, the triathlone, is just not triathle like I green would put it. The muscle is just not a muscle. The triathlone is not just a triathlone.

It signifies the balance of life. And you know, you know you need to be in needy, able to yeah, you know, you if you can run twenty six will meter straight, awesome. You know, you need to be able to have come your mine and sit there for twenty minutes and meditate as well as you know, be able to write. You know, be able to have a successful business and have a successful relationship. I think doing something like that athletically actually has a flow in effect of on your life. To be able to do something like that across all areas of your life, so you know where you are able to have a successful business, you know, as well as have a successful relationship with your significant other, because you know that is equally as important. Yeah, to be, you know, any more or a superhuman to be able to wade it. I don't have a significant other. Say you know, you know, you get what I mean, like you know. So it's not like you know, it's not like you just start doing this and this is what you do, unless you unless you plan on making this your career. But your career has to be equally as important as what you're doing here, and then so on and so on, because then you make like instead of your life being like, you know, like you know. There was used to be this graph, I forgot what it was called, and the craft used to say, like what area has the most amount of attention, and graph used to was meant to meant to look like a triangle or like a very evenly split, but normally end up looking like a very high rise on one side where people be focusing on their friendship or like a lot or just going out a lot, you know. But you know, we talked about balance of areas of life, you know, the twelve areas of balance. So you go community, relationship, friendships, family, fitness, spirituality, as well creativeness and career is I think I missed you, and community right. Yeah, Bosting, I think the key is that's why triathlons or something like that is really good, because it signifies balance. You have to be able to swim as well as you can cycles. You have to cycle as well as you can run. Right. That's really cool to see that you're doing that and I think that's the best part about it, the what the whole thing signifies, because it's not just about being someone who can just run a mile. You know, run, swim and cycle. It's not just about here, it's it's, that's it. It's just it's just personal growth, you know. You know, just constantly putting yourself in the face of fear and and and taking it head on, and that's that's the best way to go about everything in life, you know, is never to avoid that stuff, but welcome it, and I think you make the most progress that's where you learn the most. That's where you get the most fulfillment out of things. There's a there's a really good quote. I forgot by WHO buy, but the court goes your level of success will never exceed your level of personal growth. So let's say if your level of personal growth is six and then you're trying to hit a level ten, you'll never go past the level six because that's just sipling, simply not in your horizon. You will never go past that. Your level of developed selfdevelopment is your ceiling of success. Yeah, because, yeah, that even if you, even if you jack something fucking great, need to get a higher financial you know, you might get a great reward or something like that. You might get really wealthy. The other areas your life, I can be as good, because you're not going to be a satisfied a haspets fucking that's that's it. Like you know, and you'll never be successful if you're a person who has a billion dollars but you know, no one really likes you. Know, think of what's his name? At MODOC? Yeah, Matt, my dog, Matt M dog was up easy, use dead all. I love him. Know, what's his name? Right? WHO's? That was a scumbag. Ryth murder? Yeah, Ruper Murdock, you know, think about him. No one really likes him. What's appointable? That money. You know, it's not about people liking you. is about you have to do something for society and you gotta do a service and people. You know, and it's important. You know, there's two levels to it. It's important to not give a fuck, quote on quote, and the reason when I said not give a fuck, quote unquote. The reason is you shouldn't have a fear of people's judgment. But I think that the biggest thing that's stopping people from doing what they truly want to do, whether that's something as simple as posting a type of photo of themselves or or making a video or whatever it may be. I think that's the biggest thing, is that people are always concerned about our how is this going to make me look? What a people going to think of me? You know, all the judgment and stuff like that, and I think that's you know, even ourselves. I know we can each say that we've we struggled with that stuff in the past as well, but I think now we're all making making steps into not giving a fucking, taking the chance and taking the risk and just who cares? Who cares what people think, because at the end of day, the only people that are going to be hating on you are the ones that wish they could be doing the same, and that's the only reason they're hatingly, you know, don't no one will ever hate on you. Who's doing better than you? Yeah, yes, hundred percent, that's you. Finally find a way to eliminate a lot of the things that don't matter to and that's you see the people that are still stuff on the things that matter. It's like it's deeper, but a little shit. They're but...

...you, you know, even though much as you don't give a fuck about being liked by people, and when I said like, but you have to want to be liked by people. Otherwise, like you, you want to do good to the society, because that's what the goal is. The goal is not to make shit down a money and just sit on bunch of money. Right. You want to be a person who provides service for the people. So I think that's important. I think that's the there's a very big, like, a fine line between giving a fucking a sense where you know you care about what people think. You don't care about what people think, but it's important to give back, because the whole goal is to give back. Yeah, yeah, which is cool. That's awesome, a fulfilment boys back. That was awesome, but I was like an hour and a half. Thank you so much. I happy to wrap it up there any anyway, more thought. There's so much. That's God, let me we week. We maybe do another one. Doda this, yeah, terence, yeah, fuck Y, sounds good. Teas. This has been, fact, amazing, so good to have you on, so good to have your point of views and just to have us three together. It's been really good. I missed it, and times like they is we made a Fu can stay bonded together and I'm fucking super proud of what you two boys are building there at zero media. I'm watching from a file one and watching closer and fucking love it. I'll be there to support you guys as any way I could, even if it's just a moral supporter. fucking thumbs up, no nasty comments, keep that bullshit out of the way. Bit of a laugh, whatever it is. and Ye, God blessycause I'm fucking love you boys. Love you to brothers. We we obviously you know we've told you this. You know, we appreciate all the support that you give us, and you know that's sorry to say, but that's another thing that we have it like. That pisses us off is the fact that, you know, like people are scared to like post something or like share something or whatever in support of their own mates or whatever, because of how, how it's going to make them look, as I oh, I don't want people on my facebook to save me sharing this, because how is that going to make me look to them? Or you know, it's all about that shit. It's all about ballet. You know, they're people trying to like look good and create this sort of character for ourselves. But that's why, you know, like, when we say that we appreciate your support, we really do mean it, because, you know, you've always been there, even if it's as simple as a like her thumbs up, you know, in person. So so thank you for that. Over, for so all good fan this is the like on his zoom here. Boys, stay safe, proper, up the coughs, cover up the sneezes and fucking stay at home. Tell your family love them. I thanks guys for watching. This is great, great podcast. We're going to put this video out with the audio. It's going to come with one. Yep, okay, that's awesome. Thank you so much. You're watching. Thanks. Maybe maybe stop funny, maybe it's maybe leave. Anyway, hope everyone stays safe, stay out of the pandemic and you know our thoughts to people who are, you know, suffering. I guess, God bless God, easy at all, pass and I will be back up and running as a country. Wait, Yo, Yo, bad times. That last. Good guys to pass the one back. Let's lap up. This is been the clever dummy's podcast. Why did he? Why did you turn American men? I don't appropriate. God bless give us a life. Thumbs up, share US around, tell US till one thrind about us. That would fucking help the world and, more than anything, just fucking would big, good motherfucker. Take care of each other. Tell One person, invite that you love them. You might can change their May change their life. All right. So, yeah,.

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