The Clever Dummies Podcast
The Clever Dummies Podcast

Episode 33 · 3 months ago

The CDP // Ep33: Back Yet?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode we take a full circle and kinda just catch up. We've been busy.

And we're back, baby, believe it or not, walking on are and never thought could beat so free flying or what you know? That Song Classic, absolute Banger, my the the all faith wiling there as a show. I need a need to give it a play. I forgot the name of the band, so it's a shit reference, but it was GRUMA. In primary school days in particular, you would do your like term monthly or termly concerts and like everyone would be invited to score like thirty and you would like everyone would bring like their best flaming shirts or their best bloody membo shirts, and then you'll do like an hour of dancing, but my school didn't let boys and girls touch each other, so you couldn't. Yeah, anyway. So that was one of the bangers there, and little bit of back straight boys, but yeah, so good to be back, my brother. How are you been? Muddy? I've been good, I've been good, I mean I've been yeah, there's another song. That was that. been dancing all my oils. That, it's a good way to put it. For your dancing on my own native for fairs. That's it's it is what I mean. If we want to get into that, like I've got a whole kind of worm. If we can get into that. Look, let's just say when I say been dancing with myself, it's been kind of like dancing with myself and then, you know, hey, and then sneaking in all those talking about before the getting that big sweat again, because we really haven't even chattered between us for a while. Like we both been pretty busy and been doing the damn thing. You came up and visited cops harbor just before Christmas. But we're talking about sort of a good little focus again for the both of us on training and getting like some good systems put in place where we're kind of tracking, you know, the workouts and you know upper body splits, generally upper and the lower, but also focusing on, you know, strength and I percha fee, which has been really fascinating and I've just noticed that like they're not too they're not mutually exclusive, right, like as you start to train in a way where you want to build muscle, for example, you're you know, you're going about seventy percent to the ten to twelve rep mark, you do get stronger as well. So when you do go for like your heavy sets or maybe your heavy days, when you're looking. You know, only for a couple of reps your weight increases. So it's not like you train for muscle and you don't get stronger to like. I find that really fascinating. And the same conditioning as well, like if you ever do like a drop set or if you do like a high rep set on maybe three to four Max weight, like if you are been training strong for your bench pressure, example, like you can do two thousand and twenty five reps on that, on that light stuff, kitty stuff, easy days. So I feel like that that correlates well with life as well. It really does. It really does, and it's you know, at the end of the day, you got to mix it up and, you know, switch it up, and I keep coming back for that biscuit. You know, the thing is, I find it I always get a little bored and a little demotivated after a while. So I always feel like I need to switch up something, you know, switch up so I've gives me something new challenge really. I mean you could do the keep doing the same basics rest of your life and you've been great shape and there's no denying it. But you know, I think they gets to a point where your muscle even stops like, you know, eat a Plat to it, because that your muscles know exactly what to do, how to do it. Your brain knows exactly what to do and how to do it and how to do it most effectively without wasting energy and causing any damage to the microfibers of the muscle that you need to, you know, grow. So that's what I think. Always mixing up your training. It's always good for what I mentally end I feel like I need I need that to keep my habits going as well, like I for most things in life, like if I don't give that little bit of variety to myself, then I tend to you know, motivation goes away pretty quick, like I generally there's like a baseline motivation of like why you want to do it, but the habit starts to get less and less important. For me. Yeah, if I'm training constant, I think that's because we've been training for long enough now where it's sort of nothing's overly new. I still love, like one of my favorite things is getting seeing a new exercise or an exercise we haven't done for a long time and for some reason I discarded and then doing it and then kind of get it leaning it again and feeling like a bit of a rookie like that. I feel like that's a mad feeling and that's one really clever way. Even introducing like a split squat into my leg day like made me excited for like day again. You know what I mean. I used to never do those. So I feel like that's a good little, good little trick to our to do the same sort of thing to keep yourself going. I yet yeah, yeah, for sure I do. The other day I actually did something similar. I was like, Oh, you know, before the lockdown I was I my one of my goals were for last goals were for last years, was to become a fitness calls, I should say, was to become really good at my pullups. And before the lockdown initial looked on hit in Sydney I was like, I was, I was like doing like ten reps Tony Gilow plate push pull ups right, and that was the strongest pull up and like, if anyone's ever done pullups, you know that those damn things are hard.

I don't this. I was to be able Tony Killers. I was pretty impressed and then looked on hit and I just totally disregarded. I was like, forget about pull ups. What would need to pull ups anyway? About the hanging off the bridge? So I disregarded those and I just went back to them. Yeah, I went back to them the day. I was like, Oh, like, I forgot, these were good, like, you know, it just it was good. I was like, Oh, I'm so shit at these. Let me, let's get back up. Let's get back up on this again. So it's always nice to have that, you know, little little push. You know what? I'll tell you what it's like. You know, remember those merry go round rides right back in the days, you know, when you jump on a jump off it and you spin around and he's spinning around and I jump on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those spinny rides. So it's like, you know, when you first push it or push it, you have to kind of run around it, run around it, and then after that, once you're going, you know, you're on the go, you kind of just quickly step off, just do a little push here and there and then keep moving. I think that's what it's. Training is like. You know, sometimes you need to squit your foot off the of the wheel and you know, just give a little nudge and a push and then you keep the ball ruling. Otherwise, you know, otherwise the Little Sto any remember what it's like. Your Body and brain and everything remembers what it was like to be back there. And you know, particularly of Covid sometimes you put the weight plate on your own belly without it realizing. So you don't need the play it. Or you know, maybe I've gone back to because of my shoulder injury. Are Not quite as strong as I used to be, but I've gone back to doing the assisted pull ups on the platform. Really just been focusing on getting that full stretch and like that good control through the pull up, and it's definitely when I do my free weight ones, like I definitely am definitely I'm getting getting back to where I was before. But yeah, it's such a there's I feel like it's probably the most difficulty. Even like a really heavy squat, I can I can get pretty close to what my Max was, even if I don't do it for a long time. But like pullups, just they disappear so quickly, like that body weight stuff, the old faithful push ups, like it all go so fast. I'll do you what really goes on through things. I've noticed. Bull ups Dead Yeah, bench press, definitely. edgepress goes like you know, yeah, cause cause quicker than my Stut to those nice, I think. With pull ups, if you got sorry, with fit leaves, if you can go at all part of that initial lift, that's sometimes the hardest bit. I think you can sometimes remember that you need to push through that so you can still do a decent weight, but you feel like your back is just going to cave in. Then your hands, like I lose my grip strength really fast and you're yeah, it's just a nightmare. I do I'll tell you what it is. Maybe it's different for me because I work a desk, desk job. Right, if I if I stopped deadlifting, which at the moment I'm I'm willing to admit that I'm you know, I'm neglecting them. And because it's a loop, right, it's a cycle. What happens is like I sitting down dei its back like nothing else in this world. I mean, sure, we all know humans aren't designed to sit fucking eight hours a day, but you know we do it anyway. But you know, it really does. And then over the years I've just noticed my back to deiorate into do it. I mean those are there was a time and younger days as well, and my muscles weren't and mature. I was like the lifting hundred sixty five, hundred eighty and the hair snap city. That's why my back is fucked. But you know, I think there's a there's a solid aspect of it just deteriorates the muscles of yeah, I did that. I'm just the last two weeks I've my supervisor was on and your lave, so I was spending like a lot more time driving on course and I normally do. So I did like thirty plus hours both weeks of driving and sitting in that position and with stand up in your sit back down and serve people and talk to people whatever. But like that constant being in that sated, shortened position, like because I haven't been in a desk for about three years, like my knee pain started to come back. Like my hips are really tight. I was stretching this morning like I'd lost I've been doing like this mobility routine with my hips and I sort of regressed a little bit. I'm like yeah, this, this shit is like you know, when they say that sitting is the new smoking, like it's this. There's some real truth to that. Like you know, a pretty sure you're not braveted bloody rat poison, but you know, yeah, you are. You feel you feel a bit unhealthy. Like you. It makes you feel like you're something's you're aging it. It feels like an ages you. I think that's the what I'm noticing. A It really does. And I'll tell you what's really interesting. Actually, if you when I came up to coughs harbor right, my back was like I actually did a DJ Geek right, and the table do you give me was a piece of ship table, right. It was really yeah stuff. I spend like four hours like bending over my desk attend tables, right anyway. So I didn't notice that and and then...

I went on and then push ahead with my deadlips, and then went and went to work and set down for eight hours. After that, drove for another five hours. The next day my back was, you know, there was a few other things in there as well. The next day my back was just dad, and you remember, because I you helped me stretching stuff. And then that almost took and actually I'm kind of surprised I actually thought that were kind of accepted my finger. I was like this is going to go on for rest of my life and I'm going to be one of those people with chronicle paid. And it took about two weeks and I went to this this high Muss like tie specialty massage police, when as especially to me, like they're like medical specialist. People would just be jumping the guns. You know, there's some specialties day, but I don't like a Physio, one of those physios type people, and you know this, this, this, dude, we can ripped into my back. I won't louder. was more being than ever before. And then, yeah, my lower back, I was in more being than ever before. I went to bed. The next morning I woke up I was like, Oh holy should ever since setting backs actually been the way better. I don't know what cheek like. Obviously when much, but when you're you're sitting like that, like your hit flexes are in a shortened position and then your lower back is in like an extended lengthens position, and because you are in those positions for a period of time, I think your body, just like the your body just has to compensate by like a lotting its resources to the surrounding muscles, and so if you can get so on to push into like they normally really good message or some re medium massage or a sports message and release that muscle, it'll start to lengthen and short and again really well, instead of just being in that contracted position. It's almost like you get a short born cricket and you're like really tense and your sort of blocking. You get used to it, or it's like you get a couple of drives out lot of the off stumps and he starts to free your hands up and he started moving really well again and you know, always shortened like that. I think it's actually the body's way of preparing itself for that situation being bunked up. But you SA obviously spend too long like that and then everything gets all clamped and tight. Like I've been a little bit laps on my massage as I was doing it monthly for so long and actually have one on Thursday I'm really excited for. But yeah, I think that's like if you're exercising, particularly if you do something like that where you find yourself in that sort of pain. Like a good massage, there's really not much better, you know, and then it oh, for sure. I mean a while ago, I was used to get a massage when I was straight, like before covid hit, because I was like I was training a lot at that before we because I was doing mma and then still draining like weightlifting. I'll tell you what. The MMA with some Jiujitsu and some weightlifting these that that's a deadly competition because, no, for your body only, but because you still have that Straw strength that other people, even though they technique maybe is, sells yours at times. So you gotta that all strength, though. So it's pretty good. And and I was training a lot and like I was finding like I was having like a lot. I was like always in some sort of being, not necessarily like bad, gun up. A lot of was always you guys, that I geting weights as well. Such, once you get a bit of foundational technique, like your strength really starts to starts to do really well. But yeah, sorry, continue. That's so true. Yeah, and and that's that's what I found. I was like at first, like I was get beat up every single day, and then eventually I started like picking up some technique and then, especially with like my game was super weak. On like I could kind of protect myself on like on the once we were on like down, even though I'd get joked out eventually, but it was more so like this on foot, like with mm me, like yeah, my how long I could stand on my feet because like before they they got I got taken down or I took like, you know, hit the ground eventually. So I get that my standing game was pretty weak, unless until like it became good. I like realize like training a lot of legs and stuff, it was becoming harder to actually take you down. Like even if they use a good technique, sometimes raw strength was just like yeah, like technique sometimes literally wasn't enough against particularly stressing or I don't like like you're relying on a hinge moment movement. So you're relying on strong blute, strong ham strings to help keep you up. And so yeah, if, yeah, if you're diadlifting, if you're doing like curls, like you're doing those movements, then it takes him a bit longer because you're able to meet their force. So, and that's super translated way, it's like yeah, actually, that movement that you're doing to it shoot your hips away from a takedown is literally what you do if you were, you know, doing an Ardea or something like that. So, yeah, that's where that's where it's. Like I feel like some of these guys that I like destroy me as well, like some of these guys that have got great technique but like if they lifted just a little bit, they have no idea. But honestly, all I I felt like when I was doing that, I feel like this few exercises that made a huge...

...different. deadloose deadlift, Scots Bench press made the huge, biggest different for me, and I actually started doing a bit of because I realized one of my biggest problems, I'm fish, I was I would always get tired keeping my hands up, like my hands would eventually dropping. So I doubled on my side letter raises. Yeah, then those. That's really good. That's pretty and instinctively so you know it's side letter is because those are the muscle you keeping them up and like if you can actually up that, up that and then kind of that became pretty pretty. But anyway, like the moment the story was I was getting like real I was like always in some sort of pain, whether he was like whether some had cut into my neck with his nail or like, you know, muscle soreness itself. So I started getting like cupping, coping downe at the time and like some dry needling in some massage like that was a game change. You like to be able to maintain such like six days or pretty much training and, you know, still be able to work full time and stuff. That was pretty insane. Could probably not, probably not realistic for a long time, but had to come to it at something. Yeah, Oh yeah, goody was coming lect this. Sometimes you can double down and you know, sacrifice social life or when it's time, everyone's working and you know, take a few months to do a couple of things, to do some skill acquisition with a marshal art lifts and weights and then, yeah, you start, life gets in a way. But if you can capitalize on like three or four months of the year doing that, I feel like, you know, you give yourself a good chance of coming back to it later off. That's I'm a lot going through that a little bit with golf at the moment, to where I've not been playing very much, but I'm like starting to really feel like I want to play again, and for a period of time I was like not liking playing. That's why, actually why I stopped. Also a time constraint feeding too and not being able to practice. So that's a beautiful thing about like acquiring skill like that. You can come back to it later on in life. And you know, I'm a little bit more inture now, so I'll be a little bit smart of my practice and a little bit more cerebral. Instead of just trying to hit the damn thing like, I'll actually be listening to advice that I get and watching those youtube videos again. That's one of my her things about training is just going down the Youtube Rabbit Hole, you know, staying away from the vaccines and staying away from Uncle Joe Rogan. Now, I'd never stay away from a Joe, he's the best, but I'm staying away from that Shit. And then just spending four hours on Friggin knee pain. It's like, fuck yeah, this is good, this is adulating. It really is, and it's like, you know, and and I think you said what you said there's you actually put it. I think that's exactly kind of what I wanted to see. And then I think that could be the good that's a kind of a good point as well. It's easier to like get back to the things that you've actually started. I don't like, you know, it's same thing with like it's always on back of my head to like whenever I see because, you know, I've never literally taken up my my gloves out of my gym back right, and it's always there, just always, just in my hand to back on my head. I was like I got to get back into I got to get back into it, you know, and I haven't action did yet, which is pretty poor effort on my, you know, behalf. But in saying that, I'M A lot. I'm I know for sure. You know, sometimes this year I'll probably, you know, end up going because I put that in my list to do as well. And only reason I put it in my list to do because he was in my scope of things that I've already done. And, you know, same, same thing goes and like the next time you do it you become smarter because you're wiser and stuff. Same thing would be. You know, the first time I was doing it, I was just like fucking, you know, just doesn't. I don't I just want to beat up guys. The first time to do something. It's the hat a spot, as I say, is starting and when you do something again it's not as hard, but it's still definitely like mentally a challenge to restart something you know, name particularly because you know you have to be humbled a little bit, because you know you would have regressed a little bit or you need you know, I forget what that feeling feels like of someone being able to have their way with you. You know what I mean. But it's like it's a good feeling to come back to a like this, is little bit of familiarity and there, if you get a good gear, it really likes this. The Bros, you know, there's a good Brownus to it, I think, as well, or female browness. You know, whatever, whatever, I'll do. I'll tell you what the when you talk about when someone has your way with you, have the has their way with you. I'm not even talking about the dues that throw your own I rag doll. I'm talking about the trainer who makes you does three times, yeah, because it glometers of runs and a fla. Yeah, thanks. Keeping five ten minutes is keeping. It's that sort of Shit, like heapes of heapes of hip escapes or like I used to try to Gracie bar he and Sydney and that would do like a twenty minute warm up before they started doing any technique, which is really good because you got nimble and warm and stuff, but like it would cook your brother. You'd be dead and you like now I've got to roll these savages for an hour and I've got to try to rerun what I'm doing, put my hands here, by foot there, and I'm like I could really breathe bright. I totally agree with you, because...

...they would. I remember so because at the absolute MMA, the one that I used to train in Moult so, they used to do like a thirty minute warm up ride, which was and they thirty minute warm up would was pretty much it's own class, right, like some people just go away after the class, right, like say, a lot more, like a little more normal people would join it, like people who weren't doing the class after as well, they just joining come in for quick workout as well. So it was a pretty much a full workout. And what I remember with the worst thing that I hated the rights, and this was doing a Cole boins and it those. If I've got to train it, that doesn't make you sleep as well you've got to give you but down, just when you got actually drive your knees forward. He can't just like walk on your head. You've got to actually crawl, like, oh my gosh, yeah, it cruel. And then you got to cruel though that. And the worst part was like we are like this, yeahling, and then they just make you do the whole ring and then after that you'd be done. They'd be like, all right, was will barrels with your partner. Yeah, and then it's like, I go nothing yet after that, like fifty push ups, nothing, yeah, and then then after your hands up, it exactly actually such a, such a like of these. Don't do burpies anymore because I hate him, but I feel like there cross is something I need to start doing more off again, because you're you work the whole body and you work the whole body in a position that makes you so strong so quickly because you're carrying your weight your legs, your shoulders, your call like keep your core braces. That help. Like it's such a good exercise. I like this, this couple of those exercises that like like a deadlift, that you're just using whole body together and you just once you start doing them again, like that's really hard. He started doing them for a few weeks and you get better and you like this is I feel strong as doing these ones. I'll do I'll tell you. And if you want to punish your class next time when you have him, this is what you can do. You can make them do the bear calls. Make him do about three to four. Yeah, it's like. Then make him do reverse, reverse, and then follow it up with a with a wheelbarrel with the partner back and forward the ship five times. That'll be it. The old drop. It's good because you get some winging, but then people get too tired the winds. So those are the best classes. That's aught my's what Mu Chine he said it to yeah, yeah, and they just keep going. Good days interesting, interesting enough, like just talking about that when you were saying, like, you know, it's when you focus on things like that, then you go down a rabbit hole of the good things, right, like it's like the whole idea of out this this old saying about your think of your brain is like a garden, right, like your brains like garden, like some Shit's gonna grow in there, right, and it's just depends on what you're going to grow, like, you know, with if you don't think of your garden, like if you don't do anything to it, we'eds are just going to grow, like something's going to grow, because that's how the nature of brain. You know, I've brains tend to be focused, to as negative. That's why whenever you see, like you know, there's a crash on the highway, you just see, you know, the crash is cleared, like, the traffic is still slow. You Go, why the hell the traffics loose? Because everyone is blowing down to look at the freaking accident. That's why everyone just thinks about the negative and the looks at the negative, right, because our brains are wild like that. That's why, that's why those, you know market, those news companies make such freaking great money, because they just keep choking out those freaking horrible article would kind of trump said this or, you know, the new vaccine mandate. What you know? So you just like yeah, for I need to read out, you know, Sydney x Skate, Sydney hits as the new new normal. For what is this bullshit? So I realized, like you know, this year I've almost consumed like one of the things I said to myself as I'm not going to consume absolutely no news, and I have done like obsoltely noted, like the worst thing at the worst thing I do at the moment is not even not even on facebook, because I know facebook is worse. Like I've pretty much stopped using facebook for like facebook scroll feed. I only log onto twitter because I have like two followers on twitter and nowhere really cares about twitter. I don't care about two to that much. Yeah, and I'll just check the numb burs of covid sometimes, and then that seems to work because they post a little picture something like. That's fine. And then. But what I realized was like, you know, you keeps going, but you still going to consume something. So I've been listening to a lot more like, you know, stuff about like workouts or like, you know, audio books are more or those, because so got to entertain yourself. Just got to do that. And you know, the other day, like because I stopped, like I took a heavy turn left from like social media whole. I was using my yeah, because I was like, I'm spending a lot of time on ticktock instagram as well, big time, and you get caught up on the thirst traps as well. So I was like, I can't do that. So and then I was just excited taking up a lot more like reading medium. That's why I was like, like, I use a lot more like medium at the moment, which is a great APP. You can just read quick little articles here there, and even they can become an addiction every now and then because I just keep saving articles. They aren't really read but I found, you know, read it is another, another one that I thought was going to be good, but that was like a whole nother rabbit...

...hole because it was just like no, stop threats and make good. You write it, read it. Threat it can be really good, but because there's so much user inport, like it just gets messy so fast. But you can get a really it's like a good even some twitter faides would get really good, but it's just too much very ability as too much, just a US, too much, too much. Yet I found the best APP that, if you want to tickle your social media fancy, is medium. Medium is like literally it's like an instagram for articles. The articles are no longer than like you mean, yeah, that's awesome. Actually, minute read or three minute read most articles, but but you know, you can just quickly go through it like, you know, lunch brea, yea stuff like that. Whenever when I started doing less and less as well, like instagram. I think I'm particularly like because I didn't use, haven't used tick tock, but you know, you see youtube shorts and you see instagram. If you go for an instagram story feed, it's basically, you know, kind of like Tick Tock. So I was doing a lot of that, for sure, and even it took a week or two, but by that's time I was just accessing the APP a lot less and every time. Sometimes I would open the APP for no reason, then I would close it straight away just be like, don't even give myself half an excuse, and it meant it started to really work. And now I'm at the point now where I, like I start just going on to look for a news feed. Now I kind of bothered, like it seems like too much effort where it used to be like I do it without even thinking. So it's sort of like it's kind of come full circle a little bit. But that's a really good that's a really good, really good idea. I'm actually going to download medium. I've heard a little bit about it. I've been using like a for the last bit over a year, been using an APP called you Bible, and that's just the Bible on the phone. It's got heaps of different translations. And there's also these things called daily devotionals. So you can have a topic or a certain basically kind of anything you want to learn about, and you can have so an x but in the fields are past or something like that, will explain it for a few minutes and then I'll give you refer Bible versus to sort of reference that. So those have been really good. That sort of feel like it. Those things collectively of help sort of curb my my quench, you know, my need for constant story fades and everything like that. But it's not getting bored again. Weird, it's like a Trapp you just want to you want to you want to full circle it again. Oh yeah, hundred percent, I totally get that. I found one. Yes, I can do you can always just unfollow the people who like show up and then you just you only find like just zooming in in, you know, the old pretty short you know, see if I'm obviously more more you follow some on the more your stuff. You know, if you have to follow them and then follow them straight away, does that reset it or to go back to just do it now doesn't? Yeah, it's the algorithms are pretty good. Like sometimes unfollow the mill still show you based on like your I really cut down my followings to special I've been doing this for a few years. Like I think I've been unfollowing goals pretty early that I followed just because they used to be hot when I was younger, and then I had all these like fitness influences that I just followed because they were hot in the days. I'm not saying they're not hot now, but I think, you know, that's why my brain worked like at the time clearly. So you know, I was like I these like there's no value in yes, particular content for me is for them to like follow, like I think my feet, not my feed. Mostly, like, if you scroll through it like now, is actually just my friends, like actually my friends like posting stuff or like few actually plaguances that I kind of give a shit about, like you know, folks and something like. Like if you well, if you ever need your outlet, then you can always go find it. But Yeah, when you curate a lot out of it and then you, yeah, you if it stick to one or two industries, for example, that you know are being more beneficial than less beneficial. Or just like your friendship circle, you just decrease those followers. You start to say the same people, but it's like, yeah, those are the ones I want to see. So it's not that hard to do. You just sort of got to be a little bit ruthless with it. A you sort of can go, you know, I sort of like she's very beautiful, but she also has like good workouts. It's like not gone. Like you've got to be a little bit rude, you know, you've got to be a little bit brutal, but it actually does. Definitely. Yeah, it all. You can't just it's like anything. You can't just stop. You've got to cut back before you stop by. Yeah, I'll tell you what, though, I do still follow and I get trapped in it for so badly. Yeah, the solid idea. Yeah, I love reading the count because it's just it's not, because it's just sometimes, sometimes what they say it makes sense. Yeah, and usually both just funny because it's so so sleet Cree Blur Sleeps. What's that word. What's the word, when you are kind of...

...only in dig the content that these yeah, confirmation by that's what it's called. So it's so complex, so biased. Like a caught the research you'll find like they'll got up, they'll cut out like a piece of content that you're organ said on his podcast, right, and then they'll position it. You know, it's just like we would enforces what they're saying. So it's pretty interesting. I mean I at this point, I that's an argument that I'm not even willing to give any energy to. R and yes, definitely a hook. Tool hooks you from get a little bit. I'm pretty quickly and even if you're pretty neutral to it, you will start to feel a certain way. So I've become pretty hyper vigilant to when I start to feel emotional. But like, the one thing I noticed, and it's happened with a few people, are used to listen to Stephen Crowd. I don't do so much anymore because it's just I don't want to be, you know, I don't want to be involved with any sort of politics anymore. Just not interested at the moment. But like I would see things about and like the big sort of the popular thing at the moment. It's obviously because rogans on spotify now and he's the biggest media outlet in the world. IS TO DD value his opinions or can you know, pain a narrative about him, and then people who aren't sure or don't know about him, or I've heard about him or not listen to him more. I feel like the people that don't like him, they'll listen to it and they'll just have that confirmation bias radar turned up and you'll hear what you want to hear and how you want to hear it. But I feel like a lot of people would tuning because I go, I want to see what the hell's going on, and you hear him talk for a couple of minutes and you're like, do I actually really like this guy? Like he's like a like he sounds like a friend that I know or something, and then rather he's just getting more and more popular with that, like the numbers are getting hired higher and it's sort of backfiring because, because, because you can see it from even from a year or two ago, when you know, like say, a Fox or a guardian had two or three me and people listening and there was maybe four or five or six men and Rogan. Now some now it's up to about two or three times at now rogans getting ten to fifteen me and and they're getting five hundred thousand a me and subscribers, all listeners or watches or viewers, particularly in the US. But so it's obviously not working, but it's yeah, it's very fascinating. So with all the crazy in this going on, a lot more people, you know, without using the w word the way he outboard, a lot more people are starting to either formulatter opinion or just tend to be, you know, siding with as much common sense as they feel like they need to. So I like that a lot. Yeah, I mean I think in the last year it's funny because if you were to listen to the listen to the appensourds, US just talking you and twelve months ago, do I was our last you know, which is really interesting because, let's say you listen to that. Yeah, funny twenty. Did you do that? Because maybe early two thousand and twenty? When? I don't know, yeah, two thousand and twenty right those yeah, a soup like you know. And then this is funny enough, like someone was talking to the like. Oh, each week I talked to you have like some new you, like you're like a whole another person. You have like a new ideology, like hell, yeah, like, yeah, actually, if I didn't like you know, I'd be stupid. I don't want to be the same, like you know. You know, I think the Fundamlong is the fundamentals and your values remain the same. Like I've very much, especially in the past three months that we haven't done any podcasted I become very, very, very much like much of like I realize how much attention I was giving to the politics of the work. was more than it. I needed to do more than my few share. So whyte and made it different to anything? I just complained. So it was just wasted energy. So I just stopped, I think. So that's that's kind of my new standing on that. So I'm just like, I think there's far more important things that we can do to make a difference than to just complain. And when, yeah about it, I think a conversation is always good, yeah, but when complaining and waging is probably non helpful. Totally. I think in that knowing, that mindset, which is always since, you know, we really met each other's about improvement and constantly bettering ourselves like this regression and progression, as all this going to be seasons, is going to be times that you take a step back and maybe you feel like you're doing stuff that you felt like you've moved on from and you know, you sort of move back through that and then you go away from it again. But I feel like each time that happens, you sort of come out of it with a little bit of a it's almost like a little bit of a clear clearness and a clarity to it, and you're as you mature as well, like you just get you get to say things for what they really are or you get less stuck in certain patterns. And Yeah, so I'm definitely noticing that with myself. It's just now it's getting easier and easier when because I'm focused on on it, on improving, like it's never it's never an upper trainers like that that that heartbeat up and down, up and own, up and down, but it's averaging across the board. And and now I can't even justify like going down the...

...political rabbit hole anymore because it doesn't do anything for me. So and that's like really that's cool. I feel myself maturing a lot, you know, a lot more calmer and stuff. Well, for sure, but the the the interesting thing is, and that's what most people would focus on, and that's what people society forces us to focus them, is the is the micro versus the macro. Even if you look at like look at the stock market, right. So, for example, like I'd be, I've been investing in stock market for like a few years now, right, and then I realized, right, and what I hear. I follow a few people on like read it and stuff, like the actual decent investors and, like, you know, I listened to actual, actual financial news by actual financial people right in the mornings. I just maybe listen to that like sometimes, right, once a week or something else. So CBA actually has a really good one. Right, you listen to the actual financial new year versus the financial news. The yeah from the news media is so different, right, because they take a screep. Essentially, what they're doing is they're taking a screen short of the past fourteen days and showing you other donewood trends. You zoom out onto the macro, you see that that same stock, despite the fact that it dropped ten percent was, yeah, up by sixty percent in the past financial year. You Go, okay, well, that ten percent fall means you still on a net positive or fifty percent. And no one's going to look at that because they just going to look at the quick, quick answer which that they find from the news media, like sort of speak. And that's that's what the vibe of the General Society is these days. It's very much so focus on the you know, what's what's the daily even like even my you know, I work in marketing and like in sales wise, right, for example. You know, like like one of this is I won't talk about the company that I work for, right, but there's a company that I used to work for previously right there. So they net profit of the peer that I then engaged me in the word, to work with them with. Their net profit up. Proper net profit increased. Sorry, net revenue increased by fifty percent in in year to date, right, but in in the months, there were a few months that that, you know, there was a there was a downward trend. So they were like me, you know, for out of let's say six months that I worked for actually, you know, let's say either equal or no more than before. Right, but there were two months that were actually the it was lower than what they're and dissiplute it. Right, but they're always like God, this is this months, this week is so shit. This it doesn't. Yeah, it's always hard to snow to people that like if you look at it, or are you want to? Yeah, you want. You want to be focused on quarterly and year. He's hard because it can feel like a long period of time. But yeah, you don't want to be looking at the daily, the weekly numbers. If it all possible, cordly is going to give you, you know, every every buy year. He's every six months and twelve months. That's going to give you a ruin the cat. It's like, okay, if after six months, you know, this trend is still going, okay, we definitely need to address this, but it averages out like you, you know, you're still doing really well and you're never going to be like the markets, never going to be perfect. People issues. I feel like people tend to pay their bills around the same time, or shit happens, like the weather gets crappy, than people spend more money this. You know, whatever it is that causes that sort of natural progression in life. But over the over the three sixth tour my period, like, come at me now, like let's speak about that. Let's not speaking about last week, let's speak about this three month period and that it's like, Oh, yeah, pretty good, but yes, it's fascinating a some people just what they used to doing. Or who really knows? Why? What there? Maybe yeah, they're yeah, you probably had to speak to that a bit more. Maybe wayfin people are that way inclined. It's definitely got to do. I like that instant gratification. That world we live in nowadays it's all about sort of, you know, planning is in the in the in the back mind, and people's what's happening right now is what people's focused on, and that's definitely like a little bit of a lockdown mentality as well, because it's your sort of focus on it day to day. I feel like that's a little bit of a effect that it's having on society. It was definitely heading that way in, you know, pre two thousand and twenty, but I feel like this is definitely accelerated that a little bit. Oh, this, I mean interesting. Love. You're interesting, fact for someone from working in ECOMMERCE right, and this is actually an article that I want to write in and actually say, you know, the inside school for my someone who works in ECOMMERCE. For people who don't, you know, there's ten secrets that ECOMMIS BE Company, even though I want to know. So I'm going to do kind of something like that. But but interesting enough, like I found so to do a most popular days on if you commerce, are Thursday and a Monday, interestingly enough. So obviously my job as a market is usually to justify. Why are those two days more popular? Right. So I go, okay, why is the more popular Thursday? I found that it's tends to be the most most common pay day in Australia. Is Thursday. Thursday or Wednesday is the more common day, and...

...so even if someone called beat on Wednesday, you'll find that they may be spending on Thursday. Right. Also just goes to show how many people live back to check to bay, check that willing to spend the next day of the day off that they they find. So the reason I can I can also tell you that is because you'll find the sales on a Thursday will actually happen later on in the evening a lot more so people are actually getting paid and spending the money straight away. So interested quite an interesting the second one is Monday. I usually find is actually sales happen on a lot earlier in the day, but I actually are the wait work Monday, so it's really interesting, actually it is. So both of them kind of e supposing. But you know, one of the things that I that I want to write this article and then one of the things that I wanted to say was you'll find, like one of the things that happens in ecommerce more often than it should, is and more soever than more now, more than ever before, is people who order something and fifteen minute, fifteen to twenty minutes later, or sometimes maybe an hour later, sometimes a day later, will write any saying when will my parcels arrive? Right, and it's like my may life. You ordered a fifteen minutes ago. I don't get understand how it's even physically possible for us to get it from our warehouse to your door, like you know, it doesn't make sense. Just board like it's a joke and that happens. Yeah, that's that's actually happens way more than it should. The funny and another it is fascinating that how people's brains work right. And the other thing is that you'll find like, and this is more interesting, and I want to touch based on what you were saying briefly before, but I want to point this out as well. So you'll find like, let's say someone's parcel is delayed, right. So most of the delays are caused by Australia Post, because most of you commers companies in Australia use Australia Post, and Australia post in two thousand and eighteen was told by commerce of Chambers of Commerce, I think that's what they call that. Hey, there's going to be a drastic increase in ECOMMERCE in the coming years. Is Pretty COVID. You should upgrade your system. And they said, now we're great, we're fine, let us will cruise and come Tony, Tony. Obviously it was worse than what I should have been, because God came around and Australia Post has still has no way of capacity, of copying with their mechanism. They've been hiring people by the bucket load, but they still can't keep up with the demand. So it's always Australia post as delaying, but they still keeping it's still taking shit. Yeah, they're still pay. Yeah, it'll still take your money, but just won't give you the service because and then, on top of that, there's so big. So, Norman, just case. But what would happen is like, let's say, if you order something and it's late right, and what you'll do is you like, for example, not necessarily you, but what people do is leave a bad comment about the company. I will try to explain to them, saying hey, like, it's not us that delaying your pass, Australia Post, and they don't want to hear that. What's more interesting is those same people will go to Amazon and buy something or ebayl buy something and not even see the pass of rest of their life right and they won't do anything. You know what, it's really interesting that the people are willing to willing to take that step to, you know, do this thing. I actually have the opinion about this company, even though, you know, they know if it was some other company who did that to them, they wouldn't do it because they're much bigger. So I find that really interesting. Someone, I was wondering if you have any thoughts on that. Wonder why that happens. I mean I student still stump to it. I don't understand why that happens. Why do people do that? So why would be why would someone not complain to game heart but would came out complaint to a smaller company because you know, they were there par size length before. I always find I really I think I haven't idea with like I know I've seeing a lot more Fedex down. There's obviously heaps of third party care a companies that do a lot of celeriage now. But to the straight post have like is it just market share they have, or do they still have so many contractors, so many different supplies that they just like have such control over the industry? So they, for still holds about sixty percent of the market. Then the reason they hold the market is because they're the cheapest. And the reason there is cheapest because they've been around the longest they were and quantity and also the another thing with the reason they can stick on like how much the ship, the second one the cheaper, is because they still hold so if if I use, for example, Fedex right, Fedex actually probably has less chance of getting you the parcel, even though they'll charge me about hundred bucks, because if you're not home that except as it like this seems mode of like what do I do now, like what to do? Like error, error, they literally start having errors in their brain of like yeah, true, the Australia posts will just taken to the local post office. Right. So they is actually a huge effect, like I've seen. You know, interestingly enough, this this this Fedex order that I sent to New Zealand, right, and we paid ninety nine...

...in Australian dollars to send up. Barcelona needs that. Yeah, it's all. It was a box, but it was like overnight, had to be right. So so this was clearly urgent that we made a hundred bucks right, and got to New Zealand and the person, the delivery driver, go to the go to the place and he couldn't get into the reception some or to the office right, and he couldn't find the door. So we got really confused. So we just went back to the dip dippo and the depot could really confuse what to do with them by so they got this added back to the airport. The airport go returned. Is So this. So, yeah, just see back there. I actually still have our send you SI the tackle. It's incredible. It's just like we back like the KAYS. So you know. So it's really interesting seeing how they handle that. So, yeah, still their posse at least. Yeah, listener, like realiity correct proceder and place a people didn't know what to do. And I think the and I've dealt with this, with dealing with local companies and supplies compared to the big ones, is you feel more of a human connection, I think, when you're telling with the smaller company. So if you reach out to customer service or you buy a product, you feel like you're actually really contributing to the community, where if you got to Kam, you go to these big chains, it's like you know you're just enough number. So you tend to even if you feel like you're reaching out to them, you tend to feel like or that it really carry a because there's so much volume. So I think people just go or if they don't care, I don't care. Where like a smaller business, even if it's a subconscious thing, they go, well, yeah, I'm helping there with my business. I want them to help me. So I think that's probably probably part of it as well. And I think, I think if you're in in in industry where people are buying more often for other people and not buying for themselves. If you're buying, I feel like if you're can definitely, it's not not exact thing, but if I'm buying something for someone else, like I really am, want to know what's going on where it is. If I'm buying for myself, I want to know as well, but I'm a bit more chill because I know it's on my time. If I want to give a present to someone else, like I'm paying up checking that Shit every day and make sure your home. You know, that sort of thing. So maybe that's maybe that's not totally totally to the yeah, yeah, it's makes you of respect, but I always think that's really interesting. And then what we say connection with a companies. Second, you know if you'll deal because been companies is less of that. You know, you feel like you're just dealing with a machine and not dealing with people, even though people work for those companies. You know, it's really interesting. But the funny thing is, long time mass aspect, what happens is like this small company that actually still gives the companies in there is actually a big get, a greater connection because you know each each customer is a valuable to the you know, it's all about percentage, right, you know, one person, one one customer, mix up, let's say, worse percent of the customer, for example, true for customer, for a company that may have a hundred customers. That's one percent of the customer. Versus for Kmart, you are make up a fraction of a present. You know. You know if that on a good day. You know. So it doesn't even make a different or came out from the Amazons of the world. You know. So it's really interesting seeing how, you know people behaviors work. But anyway, nonetheless, I think quickly, going back to what you were saying before about about what was, I think, the question about people given buying from one company to another? Or do you mean like the reason, like the days, for example, Thursday and Monday? No, none. I think there's that question you asked for us about the market like that, while straight post. Now I'm not sure. Oh, yeah, I know that these but the market, like when people buy or not, I think there's few aspects, like I think there's a lot more external, external things that affect my people buying a lot more than anything else. You'd find like yeah, yeah, any gay people would stend to spend less, which is weird because you think people at home, but people tend to spend less, like it's so weird, but it's just happens to be the case. Yeah, I think online particularly is on the weekends. Let's foot there is. Well, rainy days is back as yeah, well, rainy days is a first. Anyone like understand when people are their days off, because you're sort of less dressed because you're at home where you're in a comfortable environment. If you're at work, you're generally a bit more stressed and then you want to maybe buy something to make yourself feel better, a little bit of gratification. So then you're more likely to like I was like that. I was more likely to even know I was at work. I was more likely to listen to a podcast or something when I was at work with I just neither distraction and at home I'm just like our whatever, you know, I'll get to it. Yeah, kind of kind of unique, a unique yeah, all right, so good bro or I reckon. Yeah, sure, put the nail on the head here, as always. Might we could touch that our market. We can keep on going, but this is a good little one to come back to. I feel like we sort of, you know, sort of came back into the flow nicely and we'll definitely pick it back up. I feel like we'll be a lot more active now and a lot more for, you know, a lot more,...

...you know, servicing to our regular faithful listeners than the many are great men and women at home. So we much appreciate you guys tuning in, if you've made it this far, we love you very much. I love you to it, Nick. So good. Yeah, thanks for joining me on the poodcast. Is Good to yeah, you want, we come, like we said. All Right, I'm back to have anything else rattling in that head. Made or all? We got to our we've got everything. But you've got that. I got so it's so good. All right, so good. Episode number who knows? Our thirty three of the mighty clever that is podcasts. Tell You, Mum, your lover, just give a big old hug for me, all right, nice, nice big squeezer. Stay safe, stay friendly. Will catch you next time.

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