The Clever Dummies Podcast
The Clever Dummies Podcast

Episode 4 路 2 years ago

The CDP // Ep4: What are you buying?

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Marketing & Media! with a creator Terrence

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All right, happy days. Thank you, guys very much for joining us. This is the club of dummy's podcast. My name is lucky. I'm joined by my best man and Best Mate, Mr An akl going tonight, big fella, Gooday, but gooday, going good. Yeah, it's good here. That's why, brother, good energy now made very much excited for today's podcast. For and four days where we're on the grind of this bitch, but now we're fucking love and every moment of it's yeah, that great to be back with you, my friend. It's good to be back. You know, last few podcasts. You know, this is our fourth podcast actually. So first two are up. The third one is to go up tomorrow, probably midday, or I'd probably hit more I were, and this would be going up on Friday, I believe. Yeah, Friday, something like that. will get them. We'll get a minute and go on might. So yeah, I think it's good. We'll just keep pumping it out, spit them out while we go. That's right. We've been getting some good review. Some of my friends, some of colleagues and you know have chimed in and said it was good podcast. And you know, we check some retenitions to people are listening to the podcast all the way through, which is brilliant, or it's one of the one of those, one of the one of the two things. Either people really like us and we're doing a great job. It's Acond, people have got nothing, got to do. Yeah, well, it's definitely better both. And in today's bland age you can around for as long as you want, so you might as well fuck of listening to us, I reckon and yeah, and now we do appreciate it and it is good to hear that people are not just listening to support us, but listening because they actually like what the fuck's going on. So yeah, this, yeah, makes us feel very good and we'll just can heep continue to make him. I guess it's brilliant. I'm very happy. Makes me happy. So start with your day, I guess. Yeah, my day was pretty good. I got back on to back in a work today. Train pretty hard in the morning. Tried my best to fast throughout the day today, but I was just one of those days where I just felt so fucking tired. So I had to eat, but now I kept it pretty clean. I had some banana, I had some Mormon's and then I had a little bit of chicken and egg as well through the day, so that was pretty good. Kept might keept my energy well to see if I eat too much or if I you know, my job, I'm out and golf course delivering different, different food to the boys. So there's always a meat pie and arms reacher a fucking soft drink not too far away. So there's like a constant little battle that I go through to stay away from that sort of food. But now it was good to be back there and then I smash like this massive Arrito. Do you guys have goes with me and gomes down in Melbourne, because we like Goll is? YEA, we do. Yeah, why I go MAS? Yeah, so I'm like got a got a good goose, will be Edi's make Goo bears. I got to. I got a pulled port Burrito, a spicy one with the painters at on top, and I was still pretty mild. So that was a little disappointing, but now it's at me up pretty good and I trained in the night to so yeah, went pretty well. By the way, about yourself. Oh Yeah, look the usual. Well, plice actually was a rather exciting day. So started work actually talking about yes, I started to work bit later today because book up. Today was my deal of from the gym, so I didn't train. Yeah, yeah, so went to work a bit late and then finished early because I had a meeting at another place and I kind of hung out there with some friends and it was brilliant. It was good. It was good fun. Yeah, not wanting. I got and I had some yeah, what talk yet, sir? Yeah, Nice, fuck Y, sounds good. Yeah, we're talking about the food before. It's mad when you can still eat clean but enjoy the food to like. It gives you like that extra little bit of like, Oh yeah, this is the last was. I had a like a funny thought today at work and I was like, it been only a few days since I've been there, but sort of enough time that you miss work and if you get about things and you just go in and see people again, and particularly when you like working there at like you kind of look forward to going back to work a little bit. It's awesome part of me that is always like a have to put the effort in, but it just makes you appreciate everyone and you kind of when you you know, when you don't see people for a little bit and people say like, Oh no, we missed you, or like it's good to have you back. Like it. That's the shit. Makes you feel really good. So I got a little bit of that today. So that that's always nice and I don't like it's funny. I don't like hearing like compliments about myself very much, like I almost hate it because I feel like it's detrimental. I feel like, you know, it's going to stop me from trying my best. But now it's always a nice little reminder to see people's attitudes towards yourself and people wearing appreciated. So yeah, that was that made me feel really good today. That's good. You need that, though, sometimes that to day. It's one of the things where you have to one of the things that I used to struggle with was taking a compliment. So whenever you know someone would say something nice to be...

...if they call you know you you look not, you look Nice, and I would look, oh, you too, dare you do? It's like, shut the fuck up, yeah, it's it's you know. So I think it's take them for what they are, you know, take them. They're merely just people's opinions in the moment. So, you know, if it's a nice thing. Yeah, take it, take it with gratitude and I can't remember exactly how I used to be, but I used to feel like I wanted to like I did things for that reaction and I did things like I did things so people would tell me that. And now like my intentions is just to do things the right way and feel good about myself. that it kind of feels like it's like a weird sort of juxtaposition, like a weird opposite feeling that I'm getting from it. But now it's really good. It's the same as like listening to the podcast and that sort of thing, like it's just hard because you're over and a local of yourself, but often times you just have to listen other people because they generally know best. Well, that's it. That's it. There's a there's a there was an experiment done and they basically brought in a hundred people and what they did was in they put two knives and to world like so two knives and one fork right and on the tables, and what the experiment was. There's two how people would react to the extra you know, it was like, I know it was like it's the UNORDINARY Nipe as well. So it was like you meant to use it. They weren't sure. So what everyone else did was look at the person across that you behind that. It's called a group think. I believe it is, because you know the whole is. Yeah, so the theories that you always see other people know best. Yeah, because, yeah, they're doing is, they must know better. Yeah, yeah, and they can be dangerous. But yeah, I think as long as you feel good about your own self and what you're doing, then yeah, it's all good, because UK color people's thoughts in. But it also goes back to kind of the old thought of like you don't want other people affecting what you do too much, too so it's like a catch twenty two and it's like a concert. A little about all but now. So sure, it's still feel. I'm a big believer on doing you, you know, or like the I like to you a lot, or you know, people like the other do you. Yeah, do, it's a it's a do you, it's you know, just do what you want to do, do your own thing, be different, be original. That's the whole thing. Yeah, man, don't, yeah, always be you original. You know, find your own niche. Find Your own everything. Yeah, talking about being original. So today's a little bit of a topic, or maybe I suppose direction is. You know exactly what we just sort of segued into this. You know, people's image and how people feel about certain things, and you know opinions and all of that, and you know certain cell health mental health items as well that we previously spoke about, motivations items, motivation items that we spoke about as well. So and we previously sort of touched on this topic as well on the last episode. Accidentally. Yeah, absolutely, bring Itt the Clement Dance. Accidental. Brilliant. Yeah. So, you know, today we've got aim. We're going to aim to talk about or, you know, we might not be halfway through. We may change our mind, will talk about whatever we feel like, but you know, the aim is or maybe we'll we're thinking about talking about technology, media and the influence of shot, social media. Yeah, and like how it's kind of how it's kind of influence our lives. And I actually had like a really funny thought today, which is coincidence, and I was trying to remember it all day because I thought it was actually like a brilliant thought or a brilliant concept. And it's something we're a fair way off. But I guess technology and itself and one of the things that I'm most excited about, apart from apple maps. I'm pretty key for Apple babs. But what thine is like virtuality, like for a company to really invest and figure out virtuality so it goes to the next level. And, like so many people, worried about the potential of like over like it, you know, in impeding on people's private lives and that sort of thing and people getting too connected. But one thing I thought is like imagine, for example, so, like I like to go back and we all go back on memories on facebook or photos and we look at old footage or old photos of what, you know, life was like and how things were and memories and that sort of thing. Imagine, you know, imagine going back on like an old, you know, video tape, right. It might be like a twenty one birthday, or might be so your grandparents eight birthday, might be something right, and then imagine that person that you in particular was in that video had passed away,...

...so you can't see that person anymore. Imagine virtuality getting to a stage where the technology is so good that you're not just experienced, you know, you're not just watching that footage where you can actually go back and experience it. And you know people when you know when people pass away and all we've really got to remember them by is our memories and photos. Imagine being able to like Hook into virtuality and like re experience those moments. Like, imagine how great that would be. Like that would be incredible. Like my grandparents have passed on in this other loved ones that I've you know, we all love lost people will continue those people, but imagine that, like imagine being able to go back and just sort of experience that moment again. I felt like that would be friggin that would be what it's all about, and it's like, don't worry about what technology might bring. Be excited for what it is going to bring, and I thought that would be that was like a brilliant example of something that will should amazing. He Seen Black Mirrors? Yeah, yeah, have I have? I not. Yeah, one of the great hugs. It is one of this how good, like such an mostly investing show, like you feel like every episode you watch, you like it's like it takes a PCR soul, but it is so it's so original, it's so clever, so very it's so brilliant. The episode. There's an episode where that sort of Puri comes into play and with the girl's husband passes away and she sort of gets a virtual version of thing and it's you know, it's really invested in it and it's crazy. And then she wentually realizes, like you know, she completely falls in love with him again, but then she realizes that it's actually not him and it's like with the sad saddest moments in the whole show and you like, damn well, yeah, yeah, that's slope that it couldn't it could also, yeah, that sort of realization. It's like you're re experiencing the loss again in a way. Maybe. Yeah, it's one of those things, I think. And that's what the question is. Is All we're going to talk be talking about and what are the limitations and what what is the not you know what's a no game and what should be. You know what's a what are we excited about technology and you know, you and I bought a you know, excited about technology all the time. You know, I work with technology a lot and work with social media and marketing, so I suppose I you know, you know previous episodes where we didn't call off as our selves experts. I technically can, yes, if next, but yeah, so I can call myself an expert. On top of that, this is a good segue to introduce our first ever guest. But when did you want to take it from here? Yeah, absolutely so, first guest for the show. Sorry, man, I was just looking at selling at my old man sent me double multitasking. Yes, our first guess right here is one of our very close friends, one of our dear friends, one of my favorite people in this entire world, the great man terrence. How you go on their brother? Can he hear us? Hey Boys, how we going alive from the basement? How you got a big dog? Well, less, as long as you're alive, mate, that's all that matters. Right. Yeah, that's it. Good to have you on my bloody this is we're making clever dummies history here. First ever guess. How does that film? You must must feel some sense of privilege, I'm sure. I mean, I do feel very honored, but at the same time I didn't expect anything less. And Yours going to be the first one on here, and I'm look I'm really happy that it came to reality. So, yeah, here we are. It's really yeah, we're happy. What my friend sounding beautiful as always. It's good to have terns as well, particularly for the topic that we're talking about today. So, you know, once again we can classify him as a content creators as well as consumers, because we all are. Yeah, cont do you guys know your average time spend on your phones per day? I can tell you right now. Good that. Yeah, minepstuated over the last couple of weeks. Like it was. Last couple weeks I had like under under five hours per day, or was pretty happy with that, but I think I got back up over to seven this last day. So yeah, I'll quit. I wish I could say my time on social media was that low, but unfortunately I'm they've got me. So yeah, doing there. Me, I spent a lot of time watching YouTube. So like my numbers sort of get blown up a little bit because, you know, most of the time I'm like watching a podcast or something. So yeah, I kind of justified in that way. But today's been a big day. Today's eight hours and sixteen minutes today. I was well then I'm averaging at to I was a day. Yeah, Nus, it's pretty good. Good, I think, and that that's including my time on Google maps as well, because the tracks that for some yeah, anytime. It's yeah, that's cheeky. Yeah, mine was. YEA, mine averages as six hours and it's like four hours of that is on Youtube. So take yea, my mind saying. I my daily average per day is an hour in seven minute, which is complete bull crap, because what can I swear on this? Yea, I wasn't...

...sure I wanted to be respectfully, obviously didn't see that. Yeah, you complete bullshit, because an are in seven minutes is not even. It's just that's just not that's incorrect. Yeah, I'm saying that I was quite busy today, you know, my boss had me working. I guess that's, yeah, reasonable. Yeah, that's right, and I guess it's maybe the phone might not be tracking it as well, so this might be another reason to switch over the phone. They're very accurate, these things, very good at sharing your personal data. That's another better would's get a better APP. Yeah, that's a I would say. Yeah, I was talking myself down. It's see this, this is some you know, real data. We shooting it. So, which is incredible. What is two hours on spending on your phones? If you think about that, you know how long is school hours? But you could, you could get two of our podcasting. Yeah, that's right. You can double up on the old podcast. So you can probably spend in the rest of that time on how much time on incognito Di Record Boys? You don't think about in Weirs Woll it, just browsing right now. That's chosen the video. Yeah, well, that's the hard part. Sometimes they you spend so much Tibris it because you see them all. But anyway, that's another topic for it. Don't happy, that's go away. I think we can get into that. Yeah, putnography. So, yeah, we could do it full dedication where we can get some live actors in there, some some things. And I was actually just thinking about one thing. I don't watch a lot of as I do anymore, as like movies. I don't really go to the cinema anymore like I'll often times I'll wait for Netflix to get it all youtube. I pay like a couple of dollars watch it on there if it's like a really good movie. But there's a couple of really good movies I've seen this year like like not just good movies that were an a tanning, but like legit some of the best movies I've ever seen. And that was the joker movie, which Jo can Phoenix or your car phoenix? I Jack Lands, I don't know. Can Phoenix. Yeah, well, key, my apologies. And once upon a time in Hollywood to really frigging awesome movies, and I know the Oscars is coming up pretty soon, so those are two movies that are likely to win some awards. But those both movies were just bloody brilliant. Like how good was? was been are in the drug like that was a whole another level. I'm not going going in when I fuck. So I so obviously saw the joker film first because I was released for before once upon a time in Hollywood. Yeah, and going into it, I mean like I'd always like those kinds of films and I didn't really know much about Jaquin Phoenix, but because it was a, you know, that type of movie, I was intrigued and a lot of my mates recommended me to watch it after they'd seen it and they said it was great. But you know, I was kind of going in there with a blind I didn't really know what to expect but, you know, came out of it actually pretty pretty damn please with the film. You know, it's great. Like first of all, he's he does a great job at, you know, portraying yeah, you know the story of the joke. You really get to you really feel for him and you really understand why he's sort of like why his mind is wide and the way it is and why he's sort of you can see him as being some type of insane kind of person. They really they really tell he's slow really well. And then, as well as how it's shot, it's yet the cinematography is amazing. The color grade, yeah, it's great, a hundred percent. They they tied it all really well and that like there wasn't a lot of plot issues like some of those sort of you know, and it wasn't a superhero movie, so that's probably why it was so great. And Todd Phillips is the director. He's a super underrated guys really good. But it was just you were just in Tregue, like it was a probably a twohour long movie, maybe something like that, and just a whole movie. I was like it. I was engaged the whole time I was like, Oh, what's going to happen next? And you kind of know what's going to happen because the joker like he's going to go crazy and cure people. But like it's sort of kept you on the edgy your feet and I was like, I just walked out of the movie and, like a lot of people spoke about the dark tone of it, and sure it was pretty dark, it was nowhere near as dark is what I was expecting. Like everyone was there that's got this thing. It's going to make you want to bloody, you know, make you want to go crazy yourself. And it wasn't like that, but it was just like for him to be able to act in that way and like his body composition and his body positioning and he's Eb he's got the look for the joker as well, like just his facial structure and and one not crazy. Yeah, and then once upon a time in Hollywood was like so uniquely different to that. And thing I loved about that movies. I can confidently say I've never seen a movie like that before and it was kind of loosely based on them, my child's Matts, and that whole scene s and s and obviously Quentin Tarantino, like he does, like he puts his creative touches on things, and it wasn't, you know,...

...wasn't technically accurate to the story, like, but it was his own creative flair and it just sort of gave you this brilliant moment. And then right at the end sort of the whole movie been geet up this like this one lady just wanted to get got and then bloody bast their heads. So that that's like you do of it is fact. That's that's right. Yeah, because a lot of people sort of know the story of the you know, the childs Manson. You know that, that all that kind of stuff. So you know it's good that he's, you know, added create, he's sort of little twist on it, because it just otherwise it's just too predictable, you know, it just takes away the excitement. And so they did up by Bruce Lee, a little dirty though. I feel like they it's underheaded him. would be easy's a legend and they they yes, and what did they do? I haven't seen the movie. What did you do? Yeah, so basically they had like this fight scene. They were both in a movie together. I guess Bruce Lee was a massive obviously movie star and and the way they portrayed Bruce Lee's personality and they ended up having like they had their fight, see, and they end up having a real fight and then Bruce Lee basically got effed up and it was kind of like all like, you know, Bruce Lee's the man, like why you're doing that? But it was just it was done really well on it. It actually made me go like, I screw this guy, like we want, you know, the main protagonist of the movie. I can't remember what the Brad Pitt's character's name was. The he was the actor our sorry, yeah, Brad Pitt, the he was like the celebrity who would sort of was a really big star and he sort of fading. I can't wrote his name was in the movie, but yeah, it was just really brant and highly recommended a brother. It's like such a Great Watch and obviously I Michael Robbie was in there and she might be the most attractive woman in Hollywood, so that's always a good good plus, Leonardo Lecaprio, mean, how is he? So yeah, just to piece you know. At the same time, Bruce Lee's a legend, so I'm going to stick like that. You know. Yeah, that probably yeah, I did. My feelings were hurt at first, but they must did something. Get over and it was pretty cool. But yeah, that was they did him dirt a little bit. I was that the great obviously joking. No, I'm not. Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to steer that away from you, but yeah, highly recommend and I just saw the Oscars pop up. I'm like, Oh, yeah, like they're going to win all the awards those movies. It's kind of like a big battle, like those two top top movies. But yeah, it's both frigging great movies that you feel like you could watch again and again. Yeah, I'm going to check them out at some point. I mean, see, there's the thing about you know, it's hard because, you know, going to cinema requires effort. Yeah, you know, it was a Netflix or spot with pay money. If it wasn't, what if I it wasn't more like prime media or one of those, I would have jumped on it watched it. Definitely. It's just yeah, and that's another thing, like, you know, who am I going to have to take someone with me, because for it to be appropriate for me to go to movies. Yeah, go like a midday sessions, sit in the cinema. So kind of leads into technology a little bit in itself. Like how how unbelievably creative they are getting so many movies in. There are a lot of kind of what I don't like about a lot of movies right now is there's like so many remakes and Redo's, like it's like they just don't have any new ideas and I've got to come up with things. But when I do see a good movie nowadays, and then you can bind that with all the amazing things they can do in terms of cinephotography and post production, editing and CGI and that sort of thing. There was a lot of CGI these movies. But like it. Yeah, makes it, just make it really better. It makes a mix of different I mean one of the things I'm still waiting for is one of my so one of my favorite a series of all time, and this is where the you know, Geek comes out, is Indiana Johns. Don't if you see any of them. Blocking yeah, I've just seen. I've seen the was the one that's gross the most, like the most popular one, the lost temple of something or yeah, it was like second or third one. I loved it. I thought it was want. It's one of the my favorite movies of all time, all three of them. Yeah, brilliant. I'm still and if you voice the movies shit all, it's like shit all CGI, like mean the CGI in it. But if actually know, there's no. So, yeah, there's a probably a monkey with someone's it's probably a puppet monkey or something like that. It's still a great movie and I would like to see them movie remade. Yeah, like in the other joct and the templar doom. That was yeah, the second one was brilliant, but yeah, that one, that story, how brilliant that story was. With some modern, modern spent too, would be pretty rapid. Yeah, it did right get into star wars at all. I did a little bit. I didn't. Unfortunately, I never got into that even within Indiana. Jones, what you guys were just talking about. I don't know. I just it just I mean I've seen it on I think if it's it's always been a thing growing up that like if it was, if it was ever on TV for whatever reason, I would probably watch it, but I just never gone out of my way to kind of get into it in you know what yet. Hold now, fair enough. I was...

...like that was like Lord of the rings and Harry Potter, like, and so many people I know say, you know, Harry Potter's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Maybe I'll miss it out a little bit of that start. But yeah, it's the road. I guess I've seen kind and when I'M gonna lie, I don't like her PUTT. Yeah, I just don't like that. that. I don't like that fake nonsense about which like it just doesn't do it for me. Just, yeah, just get into it. They good movies, like they're really good story lines of that, like I have. I did definitely watch one, for sure. I just was I was pretty off my face. I can't really remember it, but if I remember, like, what the Hell is this like? Surely this is not the most popular movie of all time. Shit. But you know, talking about like, you know, people just that's the thing. People just don't go to cinemas anymore to watch movies. This all has to be available on because, you know, it's think about how everything works as well. So, you know, it's just, yeah, people don't end up going to similar that's why I haven't gone to cinema, you know. Yeah, if these movies are available, and like you know, if there's. That's the thing is just some films are being made Nice as well again and they're available online and for people who watched him before, you know, wouldn't go to cinema to watch it, is just be available in mine. I've watching on my Netflix. Come yeah, hundred percent, and there's no you know, later me and know if it is my leeches. Yeah, yeah, straight in the bloody bit torrents dead, that roads that, but straight to Netflix has been good. Like this been some blooders. Apparently there's a new movie that's just come out with Adam Sanda and he plays like a more of a serious role. Apparently that one's really good. I haven't seen no one yet. Can older boys. That the one with Jennifer Anderson and and it's and not. So that one was where they were like though, kind of like he was a police officer somethink. That was actually that tell was love. That was like. That was very typical Adam Sander, but in the best way possible. was just like a great movie. But now this one's like over. The in came out the last couple you're right, I'm just doing a quick little yeah, it's called Uncut Jim's. Quick, little cheeky. Actually it doesn't come to that. January thirty one. There you go. So it's called Undercut Jim's and it plays like a real series role. So it was. There was a movie that came out with the Ryan Reynolds and underground six. Yeah, is a huge budget and yeah, it was so much. Who Was it might who was directed by Charans? Michael, by Michael Bay? Yeah, Michael Bay. It's brilliant. The movies brilliantly very Michael Bay film, though, like you know any of his previous films, you can tell it's a film by Him. Yeah, it's like George Chris Saucy or scrass Saucy, like he has has like that specific genre that he does, but he just does it so damn well. And what about Bloody Ryan Reynolds? snakely becoming like the best actor in Hollywood, like just kind of not out of nowhere, like he was always good, but he's just like being on an absolute role, like he just can't go wrong. A brilliant comedic actor but also like a very good serious actor to I just I love him. I don't think I've seen that. Maybe if it's for a long time. I mean about this. Should we talk about the bad movies often? Yeah, well, you can. If you want dead pause, then one of the greats of all time. So you can. You can forgive. It's about he's good looking guys in the Human Blake lively. How talk about yeah, talk about the power couple right there, like like Brad Pitt, like he's got a bit of a silver is get sun to get on, like he's still an attractive man. Leo DiCaprio as a gun to. But right, Ron Reynolds, I don't know, he's just. Yeah, I would ease. I easily think. Probably on the most beautiful man is probably one knows. I feel like Ryan Reynolds. I agree with you, but I feel like he's just he's the safe option. Yet yeah, true, he's not like if you had to him make it, yeah, bread, yeah, yeah, Brad Pete. Yeah, Ryan Reynolds, he had Leod, Leonardo DiCaprio, and you wouldn't go with Lee or, let's be honest, I'm just. I'm just. He's afraid. You though. He's a freak. You know, you know you'd go if you the safe bed would be Ryan Reynolds, because you'd probably, you know, I mean, if he wanted harm you, he'd probably harm me by making you laugh yourself to death. But that's right. Another that's like he's a lot. is a low risk proposition, isn't he? YEA's a little, because it's this is her works. Either your shredded and you're like, you know, not funny and you've got a mediocre personality, or your funny and fat, but he's funding Shud it. How does that worry Hugh Jackman? Similar like very would. They're just very unique individuals, and that's where we appreciate and love him. So, anyway, I feel like we're going down a rabbit hole right now that maybe we could. It's a done something anyways. So I'M gonna I'M gonna start with a little bit of a stack here. Yeah, so this in average cinema per and I'm goers, would roughly one point eight million, in in one thousand nineteen, one thousand nine hundred and seventy, like grossing films did it. What do you mean? Like all...

...that's yeah, yeah, so no, will. How about how many people visit the CIMMERS? Sure, yeah, it's in two thousand and ten. It's it's down to two hundred million burn them, while eighteen hundred two, two hundred. Yeah, and also this hasn't because it is that yeah, world white. So that's two thousand and ten. So I'm assuming will be further down now because it hasn't end. They weren't that many streaming services available as well, but now there's so many more. I think block cluster was still the biggest thing. You'd still got a blockbuster. You're two for one special. Your mother make what safe movie. Then you could do one risky movie. I was always like a go to war movie Guy. I loved war movies, but then my mom would make me no, you've got to get a nice happy movie. You've got an a get so dows have to get somebody PG. Nonsense, when I really wanted to watch the blood out to their May fifteen plus apology stuff. It's like when I first got GDA center against but I went with my dad, that I had to hide that Shit. I went with my dad to get it and my mom wouldn't say it was the new game was at the time was eighty nine dollars. Yeah, and that it's expensive game, but you can know it alls for a computer game at the time. You know, this is funny how the prices haven't really changed in terms of that to be like a hundred dollars is about the captain ount, like it doesn't go anymore than that and people I play it, but under a hundred and people pay it. Yeah, yeah, it's very strange. Yeah, it's interesting. It's markets and it's will talk about that. For it because I can will get to the sort of bring the so yeah, so I went there. Some moms like, okay, you can pick it up from cash can workers. So we went to cash can orders to get the game and that was it. That was a thing. Cash cans. And Yeah, my dad's and then guy goes to my dad. All use fifteen plus and at the time I think I was thirteen and I didn't go with it with a with a forty year old beards. So he was like yeah, he's take it there. Yeah, I got I just I was it work. It's pretty yeah, now I used to go through was so we used to borrow games through. It was like this. It was actually kind of a pretty clever business model. was like so you, Niki, used to drive like a little van and he gave us lollipops that day. He drove her van and here he would drive your house and you would borrow like a game or a movie or whatever else for a week and he would come back the next week and pick it up off your and then you would continue to borrow or you give it back to him, and I used to like get. For me it was like GTA vice city stories. That was the game I played the most. Luge two and eight thousand seven, I think. I know it's earlier. That was like doesn't four, but this was around us and seven, ties and eight when I was playing it, and my dad will come home from working about five thirty. So me my brother would race home from school at about three o'clock play the game to five o'clock. My old man would come in and then we'd put the cricket game. Model would put some other sport game one that one day we got caught and we can never borrow the game again into a little bit older. But yeah, it was so funny. We'd have to like play it really quickly and take turns and then we get stuck in the story and one of us would have to watch the window for my dad would cover with it. So good, really, that's really yeah, it's kind it's crazy, it's so, yeah, let's let's sort of Swig sangue back into what we should talking about. And and this is this is all relevant as to hard technically. So these are the cute aspects of technology and media and social influence, social media influence, and I want to get into this because, a, this is my field of expertise, you know, because technology and work highly. Most of my job, my jobs that involved round technology and, you know, and marketing particularly, and you know, so seal off products, right. Yeah, so that's that's my you know, it's a little bit background me. So, you know, I focus on, you know, how people would buy certain thing, right, so try to find out how they would certainly buy or, you know, how to target people. And I'm going to talk about certain things, and that's what I do as well. And you know, I'm going to talk about certain items. Look, by all by, they'll be people out there smarter than me, and that's what I'm that's what I'm going to say. But you know, I understand the concept of marketing and how all this works. So yeah, yeah, it's when I when I say I'm excited to talk about these topics. I am really am excited, and the second one being is this is this is I'm more I've always been on this fence with this topic as well, because trying to find the middle ground rate technology and social media and all those type of things, like what's in fun. I get the woods and cons and I wouldn't have been in the fence. I've never been able to say, well, you know, I hate it because you know, first of all, I wouldn't be working and if I hated it. Yeah,...

...yeah, you know, I used to think this is what's a good and evil, but then I still, you know, it's it's it's not as simple as saying it's what, it's evil or good. You know, I think it's hot. It hardn't that you just simply classify like that. So you know, for example, so we were talking about black mirrors first, and terence is also good to have hair because, you know, as I said before, he's he takes photos as well, and you know we're going to I'm gonna get him to talk a little bit about the photoshop. Like be disrespectful. He doesn't just take photo come off. He doesn't have terrence John Media. Follow him on Instagram, one of the great pages, high quality content consistently. Yeah, so shout out to the fucking awesome workers spitting out there. Might very good shit right. Yes, I would like you to get into a little bit about the photoshopping process to and what it takes like, you know, what original image would normally look like and what it would end up going to, and and and so, look, I'm going to start a round, so you can cut me or whatever you like. I would be going on for a baby. So Marketing, so marketing and advertisement, has a very, very long history of, you know, of influencing people. It goes all the way back to, you know, when, you know, when basically selling products was simple as you know, just putting ads up. And you know, you put ads up and people see it and they'll be in their mind and they'll be like, oh yeah, it'll be, you know, be catchy phrases and they'll be very good creative content that people would remember and, you know, they will relate that product and it'll be exciting to buy it. You know. So that was the original, the original, very very first school of marketing and and advertisements. It will be something like you know, you see an ad off Coco Cola and you like, Oh, yeah, well, you know, yes, I'm going to go with Quick Cola and yeaver. The years it became more complicated than that because people became just like we talked about this before. You know, people build filters and they start knocking that out. So now, so marketing became more complicated and advertising became more complicated. So they had to get a little bit more creative. So, and I talked about this before as well, is one of the great things about humans are our we have two sectors of like to functioning brains, which is, you know, sub coaches, that our conscious brain. So what, you know, smart people said together and decided, well, how are we going to sell products? You know, but we have to catch people when they're at their when they've got their guards down, right. So when we talking to the subconscious, you know, a great example of it would be, you know, movies, previous, old movies, any movie before before the S, right, one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine, right. So there was a lot of smoking. Smoking cameos in it, right, so a lot of people be smoking in it and you know, you you would see that and you would think. You would think, Oh, well, you know, that's just a part of character. There's a lot more that, a lot more than that. They were they were big, big money getting paid to those production companies to make those movies and to have that as part of the scene. So you know to back companies will make millions out of it. Right. So that and yeah, you would. You would as an individual, as an innocent you do. You just take it as a scene. But rest as show your subconscious mind took everything in. Your subconscious mind gives, recalls everything in sectors, the data, right, you know, it knows everything, it learns everything, is records everything quicker than you can and you know it's gonna somewhere deep down, it's going to store, you know. And that guy, you know in the movie, the Guy Smoking, ends up getting the girl, right, so you know, ends up getting the girl and he's the Alpha and we all you know he's quote Unquote Alpha or you know, he's cool and he's is a guy with the status, and that's what we all want to be liked, right, that's what we strive to be like. And it's very deep psychology, psychology here that's at play, you know. So you see it and you associate and it's our brain works with association. Association. Is a lot of association going on. So, you know, our brain associate smoking cigarette with that guy being, you know, that guy being cool. Well, I want to be like him. And seems it's like a deep psychological trigger. A yeah, so, so deep psychological. So this is advertised. So this is a second school of advertisement, right, and now and then and then people got smarter once again, and so people. So those kind of things go bad like that. These are still a lot of those product placements happening, but they having way more subtle. So once again, yeah, we can smarter. So around two thousand one, two thousand and two, two thousand and three, there was another marketing. So there was an updating market school of marketing. And all of this can be we actually read about this at universities and...

...talked about how different stages of marketing happened and advertisement changed. Right. So the third stage that we've got is also, you know, it's I don't know why they call it that. I don't think it has anything to do with David Jones, but there was few there was a reference to the David Jones stage right I mean perhaps that's when they came along around or something like that, right so that they will the store like Dave were Jones. This is the the new one is sort of the one that came around to two thousand two thousand and one. Two thousand two is also still relevant today at certain extent, even though the distribution medium, medium has changed, but so school relevant. So then at that point they realize, you know, it wasn't just targetting individuals saying well, you know, you could look cool, you could be this. It became more about so the biggest thing that change. Before they were selling a product. Post two thousand two, two thousand and one, they started selling a lifestyle, because then that mean that meant you weren't just selling one product, you're selling a whole lifestyle and every product that was associated associated with that lifestyle. Then they started selling things like know, so are gentleman's you know, a gentleman's lifestyle sort of came around. You know, watchem and have like Brown boots and suits and you know he's intends to have like your cigars, and so that was a lifestyle and ideology that was sold to people. Very popular product would have been like just for men like those hair products and like Gallette, remember to let the the razor reads. Like it was all about like that high level professional life, lets like Alpha males. You are promoting everyday products like that. Absolutely, absolutely, and he wasn't just selling that, though. That's the best that's the best part of it, right. So, yeah, you know, that wasn't just selling that. You were selling a lifestyle in a sense, where you know, you you you're trying to become an athlete. So like one of the great things. But like there was a fitness there was you know. So, so whole bunch of more people came together and they decided, you know, well, we need to we need to set we need to sell men more stuff, right, because men seem to not buy as much as women, right, this is I'm sure they do now, and I'm sure they did, but this was a this was the assumption, right, because men would buy a bit of jeans and they would just go with it for a bit. Yeah, so that was assumption at the time. So what they did this came up with the concept of making the feminine male more attractive. Right. So that's when the theory of like, you know people, that's when it start changing from me to all these guys like, you know, if you had a hairless body with ABS, you know, you know, all a lot of that was obviously known as like there's no where known. It's like like that, right, and everyone's got hair. Yeah, but these guys are seen. You can see these guy to beaches with like, you know, like not a single hair on their body. You know, that's and then, you know, live a longer hair and all these things. So these these things came with. So, you know, you selling a person, or saying a significant ideology. That involves to get to that state, multiple products, products, right, and then you you know, God is sky, the common yeah, growth, yeah, and you know, you selling skinny jeans, you selling member Gi, membership, deep membership to Jim's. You selling supplement, like you don't want to get them into Jim you selling supplements. You selling so much is there's a whole industry that was formed off that. And then, you know, hence game, the fitness industry. Slowly later on. I like that's you know, that was the boom of it, like, you know, because men became more conscious of they had to also look pretty, you know. So that was like another one, another big one that happened. So that's how those are some stages. And you one of trying to say is like you know how how these things worked right, and you can, you can buy me just telling you these stories. You can understand. It's got home a picture as to how how this works. Right. Yeah, that's it. And even like you're bringing up those things and like I thought of Shit. They're like even number old, sparse, but it are shit. All those great things and like the ads get triggered in my head. One because I used to love bloody mimicking up. But more than that, like the product became. It didn't just become the product, like it became, if you like, that deep subconscious connection that you get from the clever marketing. Sort of that's where they really like when they had to get more creative, that's where they had to it's almost like, if you didn't know better, it's like they brought in psychologist or they brought in people who understood the human brain. And certainly marketing, like even at university level, marketing became more about the psychology of the consumer and less about, you know, the I guess, the demographic it would that's it. Use it office demographic. Then people mutter...

...and then, you know, they change it up and then people begin smarter again. So it's forever evolving and now we are a stage. So now this is the most interesting stage. So what now? It started with so in the in the stage of marketing, of the School of marketing or entdvertisement wearing. It's the most powerful, powerful tool that has been given to businesses and and you know, people who are selling items. Right, it's so brilliant. People are basically doing their job for them. This is, you know, it starts simple, as you know. You Get up celebrity and you pay them and you, you know, you say, Oh, I will check on this hat. Right, let's say it's a hat. Use check on that hat. Oh No, actually, I'm going to use a great example here. Right. So these glasses that I sort, so this glasses, they would just like little triangle looking classes and they're ugly as shit. Right, and you know, I'm sure if you have an opinion about you know those, if those classes look good, and I'm turns, you know the classes I'm talking about. Right, unfortunately, I don't. Well, on our on our website, under our requended reading, I'll post of photo of them. They like these will it's like an imagine like tiny classes with like a rectangle, like a triangle shape, but they're they're not huge triangles, very tiny triangles, but their wide triangles. Why he who wears these? I'm not going to drop names. No, I mean like, but what type of people wear these? Are influences, right, okay, I think I know it. I think I've saying this type of sunglasses are yet so I'm going to say so. For example, they're a great example. Right, they ugly as Shit and you know these, these are people say. Well, is subjective? Yeah, the subjective, but I can subjectiveness comes in when you when you know you have, there's a particular opinion, right, and you get hundred people together and hundred, you know at least majority of they have different opinion that we get a hundred people together, hundred people have the same opinion, you know. You know, and those hundred people, given that, are selected at random and they're from different like, you know, area and different generations and different culture and different religion. You could assume, though, that you know that it's not subjective anymore and objectively ugly. Right, but now the way it works is right. So, though, you know that company, you know, pays one of the influencers who's already has a big following. And your chuck on those glasses take for us, right, and she uploads it. And now what will happen? What happens is because this, you know, there's these young young boys and young girls and you know, people our age as well are so driven and so driven to be at that level, to be, quote on quote, influences, and they want to be like that. They want the social validation when we get into that, getting to that in a second, as well as why that is a big deal. You know, the way it would work is, you know, she the person, let's say, you know person, let's call in James, right. So James Takes a photo of them with those ugly shaped glasses, you know, post them and now he gets, you know, fiftyzero likes. Now what would happen there? Is that? Then you go, you know, Jerry, who's got two hundred and fifty followers on instagram. Right, he's going to do the same, assuming because his psychology, psychology in his subcasious brain, doesn't understand the differences between its sub constric goes in. Well, you need those glasses and then you have social acceptance, because Luke at James, he's got a lot of social acceptance. And you need that social acceptance because you know you should head and you know to get that acceptance you need those glasses. Get those glasses, take a photo and post on instagram. And you know, little little jerry does exactly that. And what happened? Like you think about who won in that's an area. The people are selling those glasses, right, those those ugly as shaped glasses. They decide that it's going to be a trend and everyone just goes on fall and then next person and the next person and next person, and it's a never ending loop that people get into. And you know, and now these none, now these socalled influence right there, take photos and instagram. You go through instagram pages and they're like they look flowless, some of these. And it's pretty interesting because you know, and I've had the opportunity to meet some of these code and code influences, right, actually fair bit of them, right. I'm actually friends with few of them as well, well, you know. And then, well, yeah, not that many of them, but like a friend, you know, acquainted with few of them as well. But you know, I met some really big ones as well, and they were you know. So met one of these, one in particular who's, you know, on social media, as beautiful as they come and flawless as they look. You know, every photo is just brilliant. And you know, met her in person she's, you know, she was awkward as Shit when she looked like a bit of a dog. She was an idiot, you know, so she has so she had no real social skills. It was his brilliant to see. I was like, Whoa, all this time she's been looking flawless and this...

...attractive young, you know, not young, but attractive woman that I would be like yes, you know, and we did in person. I was like really, that was so underwhelming, right. And like, you know, the process it takes to make them look like what they look like. Terrence, do you want to talk about that? A process, a little bit of you know, certain photos that are taken on instagram and how they end up looking from the original product? Well, yeah, that's I mean with editing softwares, I mean nowadays, the amount of things you can do with with it is is crazy. You don't even have to be quite frankly, you don't even have to be a great photographer. You could be very basic like get. I could give a stranger someone who's or it just anyone who's never touched a camera in their life for whatever reason. I mean side note. If you've never touched a camera in your life, I don't know who what you've been doing. But anyway, yeah, probably using because you literally do anything with these softwares nowadays, which is which is crazy cool, because you know, back then, I'm sure I mean back before my time at least, you know, you know it was it was just what you were. You were you have, is really what you we the final product is essentially going to be. You can't really manipulate the photo or edit it much more because it's that's just how it is. But yeah, I guess now that I'm sort of doing a lot of that stuff. You know, as a photographer, you know you see the raw photo that comes straight out of the camera and obviously you've got your settings right, assuming, assuming you do, and the photos fine. But you know, then you take it into light room and then photoshop and whatever other kind of photo editing software that you use, and you can you can change the colors, you can enhance them, you can literally manipulate the photo. You can take things out, you can, you know, put things in, and so there's there's so many changes you can do and at the end of the at the end of the you know, the final image maybe completely different to what it came out of straight out of the camera. At least with my work, I try to not necessarily manipulate the photo and change what was shot. I just, you know, really try to enhance the photo. Maybe make the colors pop and, if it's a portrait, you know, make their eyes pop, shop in their eyes and and things like that, just to make it look a little bit better. But Yeah, when you see photo, these are making photos. Yeah, when you see these amazing photos on Instagram, it's just, you know, you can appreciate the work that goes into it. I know I certainly can, because I know the process that would have gone into producing that image. But it's also, you know, to the younger to the younger crowd that are now, you know, using these social media platforms quite heavily, it's you know, it may not be the best thing for them to be seeing, you know, because that's what they start to believe that as well. Why don't I look like that. You know, I need to start taking photos of this, because they're getting all this attention and and whatnot. So it kind of damages the the young person in that sense. But I you know, there is a lot of small, smart people out there who are on these platforms, who know how how it all works and know that what they see may not necessarily be the reality of things. But yeah, I think the day just got to be a lot more aware, and I think they are. I think people are becoming a lot more conscious of, you know, people just faking things just to make a quick dollar. You know. Yeah, the age of information now, like people like even, you know, politicians not that long ago, like their word was gospel. Little bit of a stretch of an example, but people, you know, there are a lot of people, very galible people, still out there. But I think for the most part people are getting more wiser in certain areas and they starting question things a lot more. And Yeah, it's just another avenue right where you don't necessarily need to have that by which you obviously do because you've got the professional experience of it. But knowing that, you know you've got a question that, because it isn't always what we look and it sort of sets people up for failure a little bit too, when they see these perfect people with perfect bottles bodies living these perfect lives. And sure, if you know they're generally trying to live their best life, then or more power to them, but that that sort of thing, that's not real happiness. Like that generally is not real happiness. It's a it's hiding insecurities or it's you know, it's a it's creating a false reality and it's causing it. Opinion, I find with the IT goes with anything like, you know, if you're a beauty blogger and you talk about makeup and all that kind of stuff, you know, or if you're a travel vlogger or if your yeah, definitely, definitely, you know they're at some...

...point there was one person who started just documenting their lives and sharing their images of their of what they're doing. Let's say it's a fitness person. Yeah, they just want to share their workouts. They just wanted to help people and, you know, great, good on them and they ended up making a career out of it. Good for them. But then, you know, slowly but surely, other people start to see that and say hey, look this person is doing this, you know I can. I can do this too, and that's the thing all into. If you're motivating somebody to do something, that's I think that's a that's a benefit, that's a positive. But then it starts to slowly become you know, people start to work out how these things actually are, you know, how they actually work, and realize that, you know, there's easier ways to do this. They could just fake things and like these trouble vloggers, they're selling a lifestyle. You know, they're not selling a product. And you know they obviously they have these sponsorships and and and stuff like that. That's how they make money as well. But you know, at the end of the day they're selling the lifestyle. They're not selling themselves in a way, if that makes any sense, they're selling the lifestyle. So and that's what gets you hook is, you know, with people as well, like you know, they have these amazing physiques. They theyre always seem to be in this nice summary kind of environment, you know, hanging around with cool people, have an assay bows, the assables, they're getting going every day life, and we see that and we're like, damn, that looks so good. I want to drop everything on a quit my ninet five job and, you know, devote all my time and effort into being a lifestyle logger or fitness whatever you want to be. And then, you know, it just doesn't work out. Because why? They're not doing it for the for the genuine reason of, you know, wanting to share their their experience or wanting to share something to add value to someone else. They're doing it because, you know, they want to get popular, they want the attention, they want the validation, they want the money. So it's just an ongoing cycle in yeah, and it's even and all into and you got to remember the business model of Instagram, the platform instagram and facebook and not tick tock. It's one of the most brilliant design off, you know, inventions of men. It's a it's one of the greatest human retention platforms or time. You know, it keeps you there, it gives you so what it does is like, you know, do we talked about basic needs of human you know, one of the great needs of humans are like, you know, and I'm not doing with the need of like food, shelter and, you know, let's let's say women are yeah, we've cover that. You know, we got the real needs, like it's called, things like us needing to feel significant and needing to feel having a connection. Right, so those two are very those two are needs of humans as well. You know, this is another there's another five needs that they talk about in psychology. Those are, you know, the the level about from the basic needs such as, you know, water, shelter and all those kind of stuff. Right. So, you know, you think about, you know, facebook and instagram. Does that is you know? Those not? That's is example, all the social media platforms to that they make you feel significant and they will give you the you know, the connection that you desire, so you don't have to spect step outside of your house. And that's what I'm saying. I miss some of these social media influences. And you know, they you know, all the world, the whole world falls them and you know, you've got millions of followers and in person they awkward because you know, most of the time they spend so much time just trying to look good and trying to act like they great. They end up actually being great and they end up being not great because they never actually work to become great or like being actually gone. They just have no personality. Yeah, made they just like it's just like talking to a piece of cardboard. Yeah, I'd much rather talk to a piece of cardboard than someone like that. Tone. What do you what do you think about that lockment? So I do understand there's been a bit of a rent going on my end. And then turns to Goward as well. What do you have? Your own good. That's fair and it's an easy trap to fall into when you're constantly your focus is not on living. I mean still living the life, but it's betraying the life and people. You know, some people have like a false sense of like ignorance as well, that they're better than some one else because their accomplishments have been met or they feel like they're accomplished because they have a certain matter, followers and that sort of thing. And that is you can even relate to like small scale things, like people in our lives, and you can maybe when we were younger in high school, like there might have been certain people who were part of the popular crew, and it just shows that people, a lot of people, don't grow up and get older. And like for me personally, my like initial forte into second agree secondary study, was like communication, was media as well, and what a lot of the focus was on was the like media relation, so the way that media like the fifth or they call it, like...

...the way that media portrays it's kind of like the kind of like perspective that it's meant to give people and how that perspective is changed, because people, you know, we can all be contributing members of that, and it definitely all goes back to psychology. Like, at the end of the day, if you're if you're trying to be a good person, if you're doing things for the right reason, like you're good, you're good, is going to show through and the people that maybe, how you know numbers, wise, if you're looking at dollars and sense, are successful, but if they're not really happy, then quite often you'll meet those people and it's like wow, like you're not who I thought you were, like you're you're actually really a depressive, you're a really sad person, like you you know, you actually aren't as happy as maybe your instagram about account shows. And you know each of their own as well, like they that's kind of part of the job too, and I guess part of our responsibility of as human beings is to kind of live our best and most authentic life. But know, what you guys are saying is like so small and it's absolutely perfect and it's sort of reminded me of like the old glette add that spoke about the best a man that could get and it showed our professional athletes and it showed them all, you know, using this one raisor blade, and if you use this raisor blade, like you're going to get the best shave and you're going to look the best and you're going to date the best than now. And like, however changing society. There was like a massive kind of, I guess, controversy behind the most recent add and it was about is this really the best a man could get? And it was like spoke a lot about toxic masculinity and that sort of thing. And even though like those sort of things really do exist in there are people treating each other a bad way, I think for the most part, like that online world, even though we all live on the online world, like most of that is sort of portraying the what you want to people to believe about you, or maybe what you want to actually be true, but it's not really who we are and I think. I think it's just about staying authentic to yourself, wherever it is photography, wherever it is marketing, like we all have to make certain budgets, may all have to yeah, for sure, performance, but if you could set on your own, you know, keep keep it true to yourself, then I think you're just going to produce a better bit of material and more meaningful as well, and you're going to be happier, and I think we as the more you can show media, the more media you realize, that's the more bas you realize in the more people like, wow, I actually like this person, because they actually seemed like a really authentic and good person to for sure. That looks at that part of his true. But I think the problem is these two problems here, right. So one of the problems is, and I'm I feel like I've been very open, the negative one on these podcast right, pretty negative person. I've got a lot of pains going as right. So, like one of the problems is right. Yeah, so, you know, people would record a instagram story, and this is a good one, because I've seen people do this, right, seen different people do it and I know how they work, like I know exactly. So, like, you know, I've seen. I've done like, you know, taking foot, like you know. We'll do these are people do it like like, Hey, guys, what's happening? Hope you guys all have being a great day. So, you know, just here at you know, just here with my with my girl, you know, which is out here drinking all this stuff, and then go yeah, we just out here drinking, you know, just Blah Blah. It's all happy and excitement. And then the and then and then look at the story. Oh No, let's read. Let's do another one. And we I've done that as well, but you know, let's do another one. Same thing. Hey guys, is what's happening. We're having so much fun these Blah Blah, blah, none let's do another one. And then that happens. Right, all that story is finally done, they'll posted and they'll sit on their phone sipping on their drink. If this was a scenario, they would even talk to each other. What Fun are they having? This is the problem, the what I what I don't understand is why is it why portray that you having fun when you're not? Are you really having one or you trying to tell people that you having fun. Why do people need to know that you're having fun? No, okay, even if you are not having fun, why do you want to lie to people that you having funds? Is a question, you know. Yeah, that kind of goes back to insecurity and the things that maybe got them to be, you know, to work hard in the gym, like those things that may have been the original motivated is to improve themselves, like very quickly gets astorted and it's just like a slippery slope. On one hand, like you, we can all experience like these amazing people in our day to day lives. Like you can't tell me you've never, you know, you're never rocked it. You've never watched dwayne Johnson's instagram feed and not felt motivated and not felt great like afterwards, like he's such a just an infectious person. But on the other hand, like with one rock, there's a hundred people who want to be like him or want want to kind of be the idea of who hears and they kind of go out and set out of their own way to kind of create that false reality, when the truth is like like old man Duane Johnson's work and you know, three hundred sixty days a year, seventeen days a week, so...

...for so many hours a day, like he's working his deir mass off and he sort of is now getting to the stage where he's the pinnacle of media and you know, everything he touches goes to gold. And I guess, going full circle back to movies, like any movie he's in, he's like guaranteed to be a box office. Yet right now it's like such a rare thing and it's just it's just a dirty, slippery slope. But at the same time, I found myself just not given a shit, like if I if I sniff that little bit of bullshit out, I just don't follow that person, like I don't engage and I don't show any interest. But I guess the bigger issue is is like there is a lot of people, and there's a lot of young people who aren't quite smart or wise to that yet and they're going through their lives, particularly the adolescence, which is, you know, the most influential time of your life because you're just constantly changing, a growing and they're not kind of experience to that. So and that's going to even one day, when I do become a parent, that's kind of going to be a driving force of like how I want to be a good parent is not just teach people, not just teach my kids right from wrong, but also teach them the psychology of the way people act and why people do certain things. And Man, that's just so interesting. It opens up a whole new world. It's just like sure, you understand how our computer program works, like you don't just appreciate the computer programs for it now you under you know you. It's sort of opens up a whole new world there, and I think we can relate that in life. Like you have a boss, that's a pricky if you have a boss that is like constantly micromanaging and he's a bastard and like he just doesn't that you show any creative outlet more, he's probably got some insecurities on his end that you know, maybe it's and it's just like it goes full circle. psychologies a tricky game because you think you might know what's going on, then by and you don't know what's going on. But let's it. Kind of the key principles of it are kind of the same and you see, that's literally all aspects of life, because we're all human beings the end of the day. I get until one day the bots take over and we're back at their slave and you know we're here. We've hit at our mark as well. So we'll go for a little bit longer and then I think we might have to break this episode, this particular topic and do two episodes. Is another side of here too. Yes, definitely, yes, how throats? Yeah, turns, you stick around front of the episode. There you go. So there's another aspect. Now, right, this is the so this is the first. This is the social media side of things I'm talking about and how people in take take take all that stuff in and the effect it has on them and notes how people are. So these, these, these are the some implications of social media, if you will write some and they're a horrible right, they're not. They're not that bad. You know, people are trying to be other people and they don't really what they're showing. But you can all get over all that. Right now I'm going to talk about something more important and which is more detriment detrimental, is mass media up so mass media has givabilities to has always at the capabilities to speak to the mass. Right. So you know, I'm going to give you. I'm going to use an example here off and I'm going to drop the names because I don't give a shit about them. You know, I think it was its Daily News or Daily Telegraph R. So no use this. So recently, Tammy handbrew at Tammy Hanbrew, is that her name? Turns Tam. I like how you just assume that I would know, even if they're I do know. So it's Tammy Hambra. Yeah, Tammy Hammer. There you go. Thank you. That take sense. So tammy Hamburg, you know, during the fire in New South Wales and all that stuff, and you know her area was effected as well because she lives in up around that area, she posted a photo of in like a very, you know, very revealing photo, her in a wet white Tshirt, right, and which is not anything, you know, unusual from for the kind of content that she puts out normally. Yeah, all right. So, but for the sake of what she was posting about going and yeah, so she posted that photo and you know, and she said to people, go on, donate for the fire, right and see, as a marketer, I know that's going to work. That's gonna work like a fire right because you, yes, spread like a wildfire. Right, it's gonna work. I know as a marketer. Now, you know there are a few people who got a little bit lore like, Oh, why would you do that? You know. Then you get always a people. Right now, I said, you know whether she did that what, whether that was the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do. A people can't don't have the right to tell her if she was a wrong thing to do or right thing to do. Now this is also a wall that comes into play because apparently we hold the people like in in in public eye accountable to some rules, but they just normal people, you know. So you know I mean. So that's another that's another area. That is a whole sort of like a gray area that no one talks about, you know. And so people are getting annoyed as few people did not that many. Most people went and donated and she raised a discent bit of funds and then came around the daily Telegraphs telly telegraph wrote this massive article and saying...

...how you know how Tammi hambrew made a joke out of the flaffire posting, a posting a nude photo on a luxury yacht while in a wet t shirt. What you know, while everyone while those two while Australia Burns, right, they posted that, like you know, they they sent that, they or even put it out them. You know that that was out there. And you know, the the worst part was I read the article. They were spelling mistakes in the article. That's on Daily Telegraph Right, the spelling mistakes on the article. Now, how many people are consuming that article? Is still is there? You know, news like news feed, I suppose, like a real new sweed and are assuming and, you know, just saying, Oh, what was so use on a luxury you're, you know, at somewhere else. And I looked at that photo. She's on a fucking boat, like a shitty boat. First of all. She's like at a small boat which you could pull, you buy from like you know, from your local board dealer. She was on a luxury yacht like a bunny, local bunny's why it was a fucking sneaky. But is it called? What do you call Small Board in Australia? Is it Anaty Snitty? That's a that's things that Dane done, donny, or some dangy dingy dingy. It's a dingy yeah, it was a dean. That's what dunning is a different thing. Mad is a fucking be if that's what she was on. And you know, and such a huge company and fuckings rushes out like fucking savages and scammengers. To put that up there because you know, this is the need to get some news out there. Just one example. This is the recent one. I want to use another one example, similar story. Once again. This was Chris Hemsworth. He also lives up that around that area. He lives in Byron Bay and you know, he had some water delivery to his house. According to him, he was drinking water. Once again, Deli Telegraph was quick to write a new story about that. He had tanks of tanks of water delivered to his house to do to water his million dollar garden. What kind of what kind of Australian influence celebrity is he? Does he care about his own backyard and all these things? AM saying awful things about him. You know, he went out to public and he said Made Instagram, and this is on Christmas as well, and he says thanks, and this is, you know, obviously he lives in that area where the fires were happening as well. And you know, he went out, he says thanks for making Christmas even burst for me, you know, Morey were was saying. He goes, yeah, that was you know, we had, you know, yes, we had, you know, a truck or water deliver delivered, and you know that was drinking water in those you know, drinking water things, you know, these little bottles like pickles, drinking water, you know. Then from yeah, because in that area that apparently don't get drinking water, that they don't get water. So they have to either get rain water or they have to get drinking water delivered, right. Yeah, yeah, so that's what he talks about and but they were quick to write the story. So now the problem is people are consuming this news and they don't even fake news. They just lies, like a fake news would be something that you twist and you know you'd have a propaganda behind it. Right, so that's fake news. But what the fuck is this? Why are they doing this and why is that happening? And now, as as a marketer, as a communicator and, you know, as as a being part of the School of Communication, that driggers me, like I don't know why that's happening. And what kind of generalists are fucking doing that Shit, because that journalism used to be, you know, a glory job. You know, it was you telling the truth. You were the you know, you were you would tell the truth. That's what your job us. But now it's just fucking that. Yeah, yeah, and I guess that's kind of the problem with the the landscape of journalism now, and that's why I see like so many articles now it's like, you know, you would need a uni degree, you know you, if you had a you need agree in journals, like you physically wouldn't write that because you edit and yourself audit and then he self correct. But I think the their content or sor their business model is based on clicks and like nowadays, and it's about as many articles you can get out. So it just waters down what was once sort of the you know, the most important, one of the most important jobs you can have, just like was being at allow. Yeah, there. Now it's like just completely nonsense for the most part, and even our mainstream media outlets an hour completely biased, and that's where you know, alternative media and individual voices like man like. If you had a said to anyone ten fifteen years ago that bloody Isaac Buttlefield was actually one of the best guys you can go to, not just because he's a funny bastard, but I love it because he's so statistically and he he's just correct, like he doesn't he doesn't bullshit like you might say things in a funny way and he takes things over the topic be he's a comedian, but he's telling the truth and it's taken, you know, it's taken so much nonsense from the...

...media for that sort of thing to create. And I love him too. So don't know, I'm so it's around, but yeah, it's just crazy. How and weekly that's helpful. And then these sixty minutes listener even talk about them. I can knock him up, you know, Hashtag who killed Eppstein? But you know, tells, Bush tells. What are your thoughts in it? Like, you know, if you were to see the news about Chris Hemsworth, would you believe it? If you quickly saw it and good Dick took it in? I mean I probably wouldn't believe it because not now know. Earlier on maybe, yeah, but now I'm a lot I feel like I'm a lot wiser nowadays. So saying an article pop up like that. I just straightaway wouldn't believe it and just probably call bullshit, because that's just their job. You know, they have to create a story, they got to create that kind of sort of drama in a way. And you know, they're most of the time they're talking complete lies, and I understand it. That's that's how that type of thing works. But yeah, it's the A and to the mass majority they can ease you. Your very easily falling. Oh sure, there's thousands of comments on that. You should go die, tell me, you should. You know for doing that. You should goode. And yes, it's just because it's the Daily Telegraph. It's like a legitimate thing people, you know, people just tend to just believe it because it's like, all right, yea, seems pretty legit whatever that, I believe it. You know, they won't even bother and then they just form their opinions off of it. When it's a complaint lie, you know for sure. And that's the that's the topic that I want to get into on over the continuation of this episode. We are UPENIANS are formed. Now this is an interesting one, because I was made to believe and I was told to believe that our opinions are form, you know, get are formed, completely individual to everything else. Right, and some of them are. Some of us, someone has become very into it, like opinionated. But now I think these are this is some topics that people are going to, you know, find me in, shoot me there, on me, you know, is what people are going to get triggered by, because people have good opinions and people have solid opinions. Now, the truth is a lot of your Lord, of these opinions are very influenced, right. So, you know, just like that one, you know, someone was a will, I hate Tommy Homebrew, because you know, she's a a lot or you know, they would use some sort of words like that, and there's some really trouble, you know, bad words the people use to define her because they saw that post, right, and you know that would be the opinion from their own. You know, she was probably doing a good thing, to be fair, in her mind. Yeah, you know, maybe she could have done a better job, but fuck now, that's yeah, they like, you know, I make your us and said donate to the fires. That's a bit ridiculous. But if she's just posting about the fires and using a platform. That's awesome, but yeah, I mean I I just quickly went on her instagram page. I couldn't find it, so she may have edited it. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's for me, that's my card. I gotta get down with that. That's stupid. But and it's like, you know, when you have a big following like that, you have to you know, at the end of day, yes, peep humans make mistakes, you know, but with a platform as big as hers, you know, she has a lot of influence and she has a lot of eyes looking at her. So she has to just take that much more, like a little more extra care into, you know, really thinking about things before she decides to post something. You know, because because of the influence that she has, you know, for someone like myself or, you know, my dad, you know what, we nowhere near the following that she has. She's I think she's like ten closer, ten mill or nine points something. Yeah, but you know, if I were to say something like that on my platform, yeah, I get away with it. In little thing is my close friend group and all that kind of stuff. We know, I'm used taken trash from my close friend group. So, you know, that's why will get away with seeing a lot of this podcast. But yeah, like, like I said, like if it shares a platform like that and it goes with anyone else who has a larger, large platform, you know, they just got to I think they just got to be a little bit more careful. But look, if it's a mistake, it's a mistake, but you know, yeah, and also bately we're not following up because of it brain so that it's in the well. But I mean, yeah, it's a little little, you know, the little something she should have thought out. At the end of the day, like, you know, it is what it is. Like she's created a massive following, you know, doing what she does best, and that's just showing off. Like you know, she's extremely beautiful. So it is what it is. But Yeah, certainly that Chris head with Earth One. That was that was that's a real, you know, just a real long reach...

...and you know that just no research into the Byron Bay and Byron base a couple hours north of coffs harbor. It's kind of writing between, basically in between coffs harbor and Brisbane, or's like sort of two hours north to our south of there, and the fires were ritually. That kind of started north and they sort of went down south, and now south has gotten a lot worse. But yeah, like they he had no simply had no access to water. And Yeah, that's just that's just ridiculous. A but just, yeah, it is a great right here. I mean those eff and Pricks Bloody Daily Mail bust. That's yeah, like, yeah, it's just it's just ridiculous. I mean he his water park. Then birthday party was great that weekend. Okay, couldn't even. I couldn't even say that joke. Who without it's twinsted bloody's. Yeah, but yeah, he was was amazing, but it was a drinking water. That's right. Let's say hite to be the Beau of the bad news. But we're clocking one, not one, point two, one, I would pretty minutes. Yeah, we should probably. How how fast as time fly on this thing? I'd test mat. It just just moves. I'm called use let me know. I've you. I've been around people who have done podcast before and you know, they'd tell me. I would be like, how long how long do you guys, you know, generally shoot for or there and then you know they get forty five to an hour sometimes an hour and a half. If it's if it's a really intense conversation and you know it's not like type of thing that you can just stop or whatever, I'm like, damn well, an hour, an hour to an hour and a half, that's what that's long, you know. But you know, after being part of your guys as podcast here now, it's you know, I can easy, easily can see how it goes. You can even go longer to and it's just one of those things where, like I kind of like that sixty minute mark because it's like a little goal for an hour. But yeah, it's just you just make it authentic and it goes for thirty minutes. Then it goes to thirty minutes, but if it goes longer, it goes longer. But I'm so impressed by anique man's drive with a conversation. My mean's bloody, my beds locked in. It's Bucky, so good to us going to be along on to the ride. It's bird. I'm the I mean he's the clever one. Now we all done. He's it's the clever tea. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly the clever things and to be because although pretending is right. Well, yeah, that's it. To make it at it's well for your self and it'll work out. I think that's a lesson. Is Today's podcast. That's it. And you know, be careful with be conscious of what you consuming. And you know, if you think that you're one of those people, that who is. You know who safe and you know everything about how you're getting the how marketing is not getting you. And it doesn't. It not getting you. Just quickly think again and look at your last few purchases. If you think the marketings games aren't getting you, then they getting that. Yeah, exactly, because I must last word for you. Joined Scientology. They definitely getty. And you know, I work in marketing and I guarantee my last three purchases or completely based off marketing. So I you know how there, you bought that new flesh light, didn't you know? I know, clash like Yass. You're at limited. Your platnumbers, my blood the movie metal part. With these it's a betle card and bloody age checked to Dout. It's all right, stopped ended, I think, boy. But yeah, so you know it's getting you, so think again. Anyway. Let's sign off, lack when, but this has been good chance, so let's continue this conversation again. I'm so passionate about this one. I love this one. Yeah, this is beautiful. Thank you so much, times many been awesome. It's been been so much fun. It's having me on. It's been a pleasure all right. This has been the clever dummige podcast. God bless give you mother, kiss for me us. Well, W.

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