The Clever Dummies Podcast
The Clever Dummies Podcast

Episode 5 · 2 years ago

The CDP // Ep5: Fear, Friend or Foe

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this intimate episode, we talk about fear and the impact fear has on our wellbeing.

We address how to best manage and eliminate fear.

We also share our experience.


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Email: cdp@zeromedia.com.au

Who Want and like. Evening everyone, welcome to the clever dumb podcast and thirty number five. I am Boll Doin by my test. May Best Man. Amk Gun to my brother. Brilliant, loving life. Brilliant. It is late and it is truly evening, but going good, loving life, you know. Yeah, we're just about to click over the stroke of midnight, but we're both night our so I think there's where our best work comes out. We're life shut it has to. It has to. We're like the Batman with a nighttime Predator, but you know, in a good way. That's it. That's it. Yeah, it's let's start with your day. How's He da being? Yeah, my dad was pretty good. Matt, we got finally some we've had a sort of on and off rain over the last I think, since Tuesday. But yeah, we finally got to be big bloody sort of not quite a thunderstorm, but a big pile of rain that came up from north apparently over night. So calling Gat US South Brazy. Even up the Gold Coast they had the roads blocked off. They got over three hundred meal and stunt part so we didn't quite get that much, but I think the Full Day rain today. I seen US over a hundred meal and it looks like if you check the weather out about that it's head and the hour. So hopefully it keeps going. I know Sydney did get a little bit today, sort of touch and go, and that my last update there was about four o'clock. So Yeah, God bless the right and so good to see. Well, over to you that struggle. Well, that's it. It's been a while. It's been very warm and it's been dry, hasn't it? So it's good that we're getting some rain here. So well, deserve rain for Australia. Yeah, all of all, everyone sort of hooked in together and, you know, plenty of money raised overseas and that sort of thing, and it's kind of gave that gave it a chance for that sort of thing to blow up, and now it's time for now it's time for the heavens to do work. And Yeah, it seems like it's going to going to be now, going to going to be the worst of it behind. It was just good and there's alviously plenty of work to go now. But yeah, I'm usually loved the sun, you know, I love hot days, but today I was froughen over the rains and now as good as he made. It a pretty crazy day. Outside of that mine I just had worked in train today. Did five days this week and pumped. Yeah, my body was cried for rest today and my body bit strong this week and I'd sort of been resisting the the rest as much I can. But yeah, very, very glad I'm taken two days off because, yeah, you just kind of know when you're training really hard and near bodies like all right, settled, loud, but we might might, maybe the IG Yes, slow down, God, I say. Yeah, just enjoy it. A pretty crazy day made pretty lazy one. So that's it. Yeah, I was very happy today. Might how about yourself? You're not too bad. Look, went to the gym today as well, Nice and early. That was nice and exciting as well. Going to the gym, had a good shoulder session and I did some dynamic stretches, some dynamic movements, which is all could fun, you know. Yeah, got to warm a body up in the morning. You've been like and try in the morning and it's been been nice change for it's brilliant. It's brilliant, but it's hard to get out of the bed sometimes. But you know, it's good. You know, sometimes I wake up and, you know, I'll go, okay, well, I'm up, I'll sit up and, you know, I'll just go maybe I'm going to lay back down for a few seconds next you know it's a bit late. Yeah, you know, it's goold change for me to at least get up early. I truly do enjoy it more because I can get a lot more done, you know, the five way and wake ups and all that stuff. I know a lot of people say it doesn't work for everyone, and it's true, it doesn't work for everyone, the reason being because not everyone has that schedule rights. But yeah, I have worked you in the day. If I get team out of the way in the morning, I go to work, come back. I have that eight our window. Do with it, you know, to either record podcast or, you know, to do my work. You know, apart from doing podcasts, other projects that I'm working on as well. So it gives me opportunity to work on those items. Yeah, that's right, and it does get easier the more you do it, obviously, but like they're relier go to bed if you're constantly trying to get five, six hours of sleep like that wake up is just so hard. But yeah, if you can give yourself seven, I think six and a half seven, that it does make it easier. And there's always days that you just got to get yourself up, get that First Cup of coffee and yeah, and then you're good together. But yeah, it's pretty much every day. There's not a day goes by where if you don't ask yourself the question, are doing really need to get up? Yeah, you just sort of rived to remind myself for the feeling I get knowing when I'm in the doom earlier then that usually sees me through it. Yeah, age that around, though. It's nice to nice to change it up and I'm sure you might get to a stage again where you go through the day or the night. But yeah, while it makes sense, I think you just got to capitalize on it and once you get your body warm like you do, have a lot of energy in the morning, for sure, like a rob eight o'clock your cart. Oh, yeah, I think. Yeah, I find my energy kicks in droughly around eight thirty, two, nine o'clock, and then...

I'm like yeah, right, boys, let's go. You know, if you I broke up to coffee shop all Chopian. People like, what's wrong with this guy? Exactly right, it's really good. stammlennium bloody dripping over their feet. Yeah, yeah, it did nothing. Wakes you up better and then you just get sort of get that secredium rhythm going. You could get the adjoinals flowing throughout the body, calm, some of the quarters awesome, the stress warmones down. Probably a caffeine in there to spike those back up a bit and ready to get credium rhythm. That's a nice way. It is a good word. I could like. Yeah, it's I've got half an idea of what it is, but I already just had it's a body clock, isn't it? It's a body clock. Exactly right. Yes, it's a cranium rhythm. There it's pretty it's pretty technical work there. Maybe it's somebody search for the kiddies out there this week. Look up, there's a credium rhythm. I'm a little going to be the body right, that's right, you versus sniff the jourion doesn't all right. Well, I'M gonna so to this episode. We're going to we have a pre special topic and we'll get into it. Before we get into it, I have a little tip, just bouncing off that idea ice. I've been setting my alarm for sunrise. You know how you can go into your weather whether I find out when the Sun Rises? I've been setting my arms the median usually. Yes, I like let's have a look. So I'm just going to quick the jump on my pups. We get ours things about five hundred fifty. In five hundred and fifty in daylight savings. You, I'd imagine you guys are a little bit later because I know the sun sets a little bit later for you guys. Yeah, you've got like a eight thirty sons a day. We've got like a quartered away sunset m. So yours would probably be thirty. Maybe today was totally to day was real dark. Ye. So, so sunrise for us is six eighteen m yeah, right, so it's about yet, about that thirty minute mark. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, and just quickly, it's pronounced circadium. I was adding an extra right. Yes, Sir Kadium, see, I didn't the A D. I am it's case certadium rhythm. Yeah, yeah, I think too more. Yeah, so this so I have at this is a good tip and I learned about this and this is sort of based around the there of Circadian Rhythm. So if you are if you want to wake up early, right, so there's this four points. There's two points in the morning that you can set your alarm and if you start keep, if you keep around that, you will work really nicely, and that's because that sort of goes ties into you know roosters, how they get up before everyone and before everyone else and they just, you know, out there, go and cook. Yeah, but yeah, that one. Yeah, so they work obviously. Yeah, might die. So, though, they actually work off this time because they see first light. All they feel the SUF first light of Sun or whatever it is, right. Yeah. So this to two times in the morning that you can set your arms if you want to wake up real early. So you want to go hold dawn right, which is which is for Melbourne tomorrow, is forty eight am. Yeah, so you could probably set that alarm, which should be good, because that would be just before sunrise and in it will get. In fact, he'll give you enough time to see the sunrise. And then the other other one is sunrise, which is usually about fifteen to twenty to thirty minutes later, which is at eighteen am in Melbourne for tomorrow. So if you want to wake up early, set your alarm for either one of those two time for dawn or sunrise. It works nicely because your body actually starts, you know, because you obviously your body reacts to Sun as well. You know, you get feel better and all those stuffs, all that kicks in. Yeah, and you know, if you if you're real pro and you're one of those people who starts to go to better early, you can, you know, you can go to sleep by dusk. Yeah, if you're a real freak, if you're really good, asleep by dusk, which is normal in in Melbourne tomorrow it was thirteen. Yeah, okay, yeah, Nice. Now it isn't too late, I guess. And it depends on the type of work you're doing throughout the day and that would give you a sort of eight hours, roughly seven and a half, eight and a half. You know that? Yes, that's it. Can a half of sleep. Yeah, it's a good sleeping rhythm because you know, you sleeping by so sun goes down in Melbourne at eight forty five. Yep, so sunset. And you know, if you're in bed by, you know, nine fifteen, that's pretty brilliant. Actually. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Your body starts to secrete, starts to sort of produce Melatona at that time too. That's why, you know, an hour, hour and a half out of sunst sunrise, sunsets or are you start to feel tired and generally that's you know, when people are eating a little bit later, you sort of throw the that off a little bit because your body will have to process the food and it sort of throws it...

...out. But yeah, it's about, yeah, it's about too. Yeah, one to two hours after, after whatever, your body clock is shifted to. So, yeah, where if you've sort of lived, and I can't remember how quickly, like it wasn't very much, but I just did almost straight away. So I guess if you're moving, obviously to the you know quite a different times owner. It takes some time and obviously that's why, you know, it can be difficult if you're traveling overseas. You sort of have to adjust your body clock. But yeah, I think that's I think that makes sense. Like, if I'm not eaten too many sugars, like thirty ten oclock, I'm even thirty, I'm pretty set. Like, yeah, that feels like that's what I want to go to bed, but that's it. That's yeah, that's a good time as well as yet resisted as long as I cant. Yeah, I forget hate. I know it's good for me, but I just I like to be awake. I you know. So it's like a real battle that you've got to give yourself, you know, force. It's not in there sometimes. Look, I'm the same, you know. I feel like I get really all of a sudden when everyone goes to sleep. This is is actually study on it. Why you feel that way? I think there's one of the reasons. It was a you who were saying. One of the reasons is the fact that episode everyone is asleep, and another one is, you know, these are study on. Now I can't remember what the study is, but yeah, you know, you are often more creative, not everyone. There are people who are more creative. Yeah, I'm your you get your best performance at a certain time. Yeah, YOU'RE ANTAL CLARITY. It's almost like a second wind. Yeah, they just looking online here and this is not really looking too where it's come from, but it kind of gives your to thirty, two, three o'clock. So theoretically, maybe eight or nine hours after you've woken up. That's where your coordination and your reaction time is at its fastest. It sounds like it might be, and this is complete guess work, but it might be like a second repeat of the rhythm without sleep. So like you, yeah, you're definitely like a little bit dreary and you're definitely like you don't feel confident driving a car necessarily unless you sort of caffeinated up. But in terms of just like cognitive function or stimulation, like there's nothing there that you feel like you've sort of got a second wind. But then I find you know, even I love that space. I hit that space like when I do eventually crash after that, you know, thirty, then it's like I need a big sleeping you know, you can't sort of wait. You've got to kind of give yourself that extra time. Yeah, well, perhaps is more. was kind of half a meat itself. It's kind of yeah, or anybody. This is once again, this is a complete theory as well. or it could be more of a like a meditative state, like sort of like a strand state between like a between full consciousness and half sort of subconsciousness, sort of being in somewhere in the mill. So then you have the food, the creativity of the subconscious, and then you know, the intelligence of the conscious. So perhaps that's a possibility as well. I don't know. This is just a absolute theory that I've just met up an exciting I guess. You kind of not thinking about as much, or maybe you're not what think about as many things, so you might you might feel like a little clearer. Yeah, and also that you don't have an assignment do that night and you're like yeah, well, if, yeah, I mean that's a different yeah, that's a different scenario. That's when you know deadlines are on you. I'm I find to be honest, I'm going to be completely honest here. So there's been times where I've gone to work, you know, with like three hours asleep, right, or twelve sleep? Yeah, to be completely honest, that's when I'm the most productive. Right, I'm going to say productive, but I'm not going to say effective. You don't know a productive that makes sense. Yeah, I'm not as effective in a sense when I when I'm at my full energy. I've got you know, you better, you better stand about, you know, for at least a kilometer away from a toll, because you just know I'm always excited about something right when I'm, you know, got a bustle. Yeah, I'm sitting there and I do more. But you know if normally, if I normally I'd go to work and I'm, you know, I've caught full energy. I do a little bit, then I'd get to like, you know, too excited and to a DSD sort of thing and I just get up and move. So I find when I have reduced energy I can do more. But even though it's not as effective, and I think there's probably Shure, it's a shorter window way like it, you can yet definitely sit it down because you're kind of half tired. You kind of can cut out a lot of like your brain isn't overly stimulated. Yeah, that's right, and I guess maybe car as all isn't as high and it's kind of like a file or flight. So you know, you're not as reactive and theoretically, like most of our you know, most of our pot brain pathways and our hormones are based off sort of our like our ancestry. So what part of the world you lived in and you know what times of the day they were up hunters and gatherers, that sort of thing. So even though, like, you wouldn't be a sufficient like you're more likely to get killed, you're probably more likely to be better at, you know, figuring out...

...what you need to do and then getting it done so you can go and preserve yourself, so you can go and sleep. So, yeah, it's more like a more like a yes, it's more like a saving like a survival mode, where you just chip away on something little bit and know, yeah, even Tho it's not as yeah, it's not as in, it's not as intuitive and it's not as the states not as intelligent. That support. Yeah, high performing. It's a you know, but it's sort of more like survival mode, and I do to be honest, I don't think it's a very good space to be in. Not all the time. You definitely like this. Life will throw a curveball and you'll need to get there. But yeah, if you do it like certainly, if you do it two days in a row, like one days usually enough to scare me. By two o'clock I get a real crash. I'm like all this is like fun. You know, I feel like I can walk into the front of a train right now, like you sort of have those little micro sleeps. But yeah, if you when you start going back to back days, that's where you start to go way like this is like you've started coughing for no reason, like you start getting sick, you might get irritable. I'm not over the irritable person, so it takes a lot for me to kind of get that way. But, like, whatever you like. My personality trait may be one of my worst post my worst habits is a little bit forget so and I can kind of zone out a little bit. So I was own out a lot easier, I think. Yeah, and it's all one. Sure it's like an aggrove person or someone's like a combative person. They might be, you know, extra, extra combative or whatever. It is for sure, and I think, yes, that's importance of so I supposed to sleep, but you know, today's topic is actually not about and there's something more important and sort of relevant. Yeah, and I want to start by sure, yeah, definitely ties into it and certain accent extend but you know, I'm going to sort of segue into it and then from there I'll let your chat a little bit and then, yeah, I'll jump back jump back in with some rants and some ideas, and I think today's Today. I at least I want to sort of, you know, push people who listen at least. So probably, you know, probably my mom with if he's listening, to push are mostly. But yeah, shout out to Mama. So, you know, it's just push people onto sort of, you know, facing those fears as well as well as sort of really explore them and, you know, be aware of those. So I want to start by the one of the you know, have you ever once, and we just chatted about that, so have you ever you know, set ourn alarm, you know, before you going to go to bed, you like, or I? Well, I'm going to wake up tomorrow at like you, I don't know, six o'clock in the morning, and I'm going to go to the gym or I'm going to go to work early, or I'm gonna wake up and, you know, do something right. So what happens is, you know, you you set your intentions. There's two things here right. Often you do it and you know you said the alarm, but you don't really set the intention, first of all, but we're not talking about that here. But you know, the second thing is then you have fear. Fear, yeah, so you know, you say you alarm, you go to sleep and then you wake up next morning and you know you just can't get under bed. What happens? There is in fact actually fear of the day that is to come, right that the day you're about to step into. I think the fear drives from few things. One of the fears that you have is you know that you you are the day's in a nutshell. You already know what you're going to expect from the day. Sort of. You know it's nothing unexpected is going to happen and it's a pretest, certain sort of day. You know it's a mundane day. So you're not excited about anything. So it goes into theory. Back in the days when we were kids, right, you know, our parents would get us bad to get, you know, go to school, but that one day would have something exciting to do, like, you know, maybe a school excursion, and we know the boys were going to go and you know, I don't know, we're going to get sad day morning. Yeah, critian ceremony. We were up, we were up before our parents. That, man, I think that's it. I think the difference was is that in those days we had something to be excited about and something and the expected was going to happen and the fear factor was removed in a sense, where you didn't know what was going to happen and you're more excited. And I think excitement and fear are two very opposite things, because we're fear lies. You can't really be excited about something because you're fearful of it. And I think, I think they could be crosses. You could be a little bit afraid and you could be excited because, and I think that's more thrilled. That's another emotion that you can go into. It's more when you're thrilled that you know you're fearful, but you moving forward, and I think that's a very good place to be as well. When you feeling thrilled, it's but right, it depends on what, yeah, uacually is like. If it's you know, if you put yourself into a like a bad side of mine or made some bad habits, and then that fear or anxiety is a negative thing, and there's definitely like it's the opposite of excitement for sure, because it's like...

...a dreadfulness. But like, if you've got official ontation at work or, you know, you are maybe are going on a date with a girl that you've been looking forward to like that. That's yeah, it just depends on the circumstance. I well, that's it. So that you know, let's say, if you have a presentation at at at work and you know you were fearful of the what people are going to think of you, that that's a fear right. This definitely is. Really that's that's a fear and it's a legitimate fear, and I'll get more interfere and yeah, I'm sure you will as well. Feels are pretty fundamental in a sense where they really only few outcomes. So you know. So, yeah, so I'm just quickly back on that. So fear of you know, let's see, your fear of presidation. You know, freaking out and you know you wake up and you already feel you know you're already running late because you woke up late, and you know, just the days just going shit because you know, even though you have presidation, where it all started from was the fact that you're fearful of how that presidation is going to go and what people are going to think of you, which means you know you will already will. You know the moment you tell yourself that you're going to perform like shit. So I think that's that's the fear factor that plays into it. That's why you'd wake up late. I think that's a big thing that happens to people when they set in well Halfa Sudd set intentions and, you know, try to God, you haven't quite prepared, and I don't actually me and like you're going on a date, which is a really interesting one because, you know, I hear people go, Oh, well, you know, I can't get a you know, I can't get her into a relationship, or I can't find someone who likes me. And you know, most of the time they're not even chatting to anyone. Like they're not talking to anyone, right, you know. So how are you meant to get into a relationship? All? Well, you know, well, it's off. Once again, it's a fear. It's not that you have prepared to talk to someone, but it's more so if you're if you're fearing something, know that you're not being present. So that's the big thing, right. So, you know, being present, because in the present fear doesn't exist. So fear often comes in when you're worried about what's going to happen in the future, right, and you know, or if you have anxiety, then you worried about what has happened. You know, sort of thing, you know, or sort of going to rest, yeah, repeating itself, or, you know, going to depressive state and you know you sort of try to hold onto things that happened. That's a depressive state. And if you worried, worried about what's going to happen, that's anxiety and fear. So you know, those things are. It's a very interesting loop that you can get yourself stuck into. And you know, when I say interesting, it's interesting in a sense, too interesting to explore for for me at the moment. But it's not a good feeling to have. was another good space to be in, you know, and what I said before and after that I'll let you take over, Loklan. But fear is pretty fear, anxiety, fear at least it's fundamental in a sense where you can pretty much what's the beer basic level of fear. Right. So, ways, if you track down fear, you know you're worried about you're worried about someone. You know, you're worried about presentation. Right, what's and why are you worried? What? You're worried about what people are going to think of you and how you speak and how you act, if you really think about that fear for a second. Right, and where's that fear coming from? Why are you worried about people, what people think of you? And the answer to that is, and I'm not saying this because I actually recently read something about this. So that's what I'm saying. This one saying this particular ideology. So fear. Fear would often be something, you know, as small as if I, you know, go up there and do the presentation and they won't like my presentation and they think I'm silly and I talk silly, they're going to reject me socially, right, you know if that makes sense? Yeah, so socially reject, social rejection. And now why is prucal? Yeah, social rejection. Why is social rejection such a big deal? And now this is where it gets interesting, because our primitive minds would designed to be in groups. Yeah, now, if you're getting rejected socially, now it really doesn't matter because you've got other friends. You go up. You know other people. You Got Facebook, you are Instagram, you'll find some of your tinder. You know, you got all those things. You'll find someone. The point is here. But you that fear is so in rational and, like, I'm not trying to say you can just get rid of that fear. I'm just trying to really like, you know, because it's hard, it's easy said than done, but I'm really just trying to explain what the basic of the basis of that fear is. So that's the first fear because, if you know, back in the days, in the primitive ages, if you were rejected from a group or rejected from the you know, from little group that was formed, you would die. Yeah, so, yeah, really, if you go down to the ASSHOLE, basis of the fear is that you will die. Another one is you know. So this too pass through the...

...fear and you know, every single time you get to the absolute basic it's death. But there's another level, which is social acceptance, and there's another level above it, which is the fear of being alone. Right. So those three levels to the fear and you can track most fears down to that, right. You know, it's really interesting and that's a basis of the fee. And I'm talking really generalized here as well. So you know, I'm not trying to say this. People aren't afraid of other people dying or people, you know, but the point is most fear Scain Goo. Yeah, everyone, yeah, can relate this to their lives in one aspect or another, for sure. HMM. For Yes. So that was my that's my initial introduction of fear and I think this is going to be very interesting topic and I think this is an important one as well. A very important one because I have very good friends who have very bad fears and anxiety about certain things and you know, well, I personally don't have many fears anymore, but you know, I've been through sometimes where fear was certain and it was unavoidable, right. So, you know, black was there. You know, I went through a dark period where I got injured and you know, I feared experience. Yeah, and you know, and I needed that express but I didn't I didn't necessarily fear death to become to be honest. But it was the fear of not being not being alive, which sounds strange, which is death, which is death, but also not living life. Life. It was the fear of not being able rights, as I mix, and not being able to do the things that I wanted to do, exprobing or have, yeah, not experience life. So, which was a you know, which was which was very Veni. Yeah, it was a hard time. So, you know, now I'm pretty good. So, you know, I'm pretty good in living sort of being in the present whenever, every now and then I'd get sort of pulled into like a future problem of black Oh, what would happen? So I've been getting better pulling myself back, you know, out of it. So which is that's my experience. Just to quickly start with. US start with it. And yes, that was my introduction. And once again, I'm not not, you know, saying fear is a small thing and everyone can just get rid of it. So because, you know, that wouldn't be a nice thing to say it, because that's not true. But it's awareness. It starts with awareness. Yeah, definitely, definitely, the money on the head there and on the head, the nail on the head there. And before I move on, or kind of say, but I'm thinking, you just triggered my trailer thought with the I like the idea of community and sense I can community and one of my favorite books I've ever read. Sorry, I'm just going to quickly caught one of the one of my favorite books I've ever read was one called tribe. It was by Sebastian Jonger, Junger, Spot Jun G, and yeah, basically he just goes through human history and talks about how, you know, our ancestries with the name into it. Yeah, so it's just called tribe by Sebastian gener just tried. Yeah, really good audiobook. He reads it himself and does a great job of it and just goes through three or four different age and Chinese and a couple of different real deep ancestries and how they kind of all stuck in groups and how everything was predicated on the group fighting, living, breeding, you know, life and death, and how, you know, a lot of problems in society when you know, particularly in an age that we live in today, when you know the social networks have brought us together, for a lot of people they feel a sense of separation just in terms of deep, you know, deep communication and deep connection with people. So he just goes really well into that and yeah, I think if you check that one out, that's really good one. We could go deep into that but it's sort of slightly off what we're talking about today. But yeah, try by Sebastan Jonger, really good book. Yeah, before you will look into a quick blood on our website. So it's just a quick black one. Our website there's a tab called homework and you'd be able to find links to things. But we talk about into or podcast such as that particular book. Definitely will just do some you know, whatever it can be, like even the you know, the Chris tims worth thing we talked about last week or whatever else like. We can put some funny ones like that. I think we're definitely I'll put the title of the Book Up there tonight or tomorrow and we'll definitely get that ball rolling. And then, you know, any podcasts or anything else. And it's kind of a good way to relate and if you feel like you've listened to something that's sort of got your brain thinking, then I think that would be a good way to sort of continue on. And books are just so good because it's you know, it's something that we don't do enough of, but once it...

...once you start reading, you really realize like wow, this is like the most important, this is the most amazing thing I'm going to do is actually read and yeah, yeah, I think that's a great idea. And also, we're now, you know, we've been on spotify since the beginning. You know, great work by by our man and they for doing that. We're now on apple podcast as well. So I listened a lot of my podcast or through apple. So, yeah, just look at the clever dumige podcast through apple podcast for my fellow iphone friends and yeah, you'll find it on there. But yeah, you were enjoyed back. Also, just speak to the spotify right also, just a good place, you know. So if you can't see, if you don't have spotify membership or you don't have, you know, apple podcast, you can actually go down, go on our website, which is zero Mediacom. Do you forward slas CTP, see for cad D foot, dark P for parrots, peoples DP for clever dumbes podcasts. That's right. I just thought about something like that here on in the podcast so that someone would be listening to it. Just that's right, exactly. Yeah, all right. Well, yeah, they might be losing with someone else or maybe they've jumped on that free week also. That's on our social channels. Anyway. So it's all good, so okay. But now yet getting back into the fear of the fear. Yeah, so for me, like it was something I didn't really have a lot growing up to, or I thought I didn't have it. Like I always felt relatively confident speaking, you know, to people and and I knew a lot of people that didn't like speaking to people like it, that sort of communication, public speaking and even just general conversation. So I felt like I'd almost got very lucky with that. With anxiety in particularly, we fear. Little did I know that, might you know, I was using that outlet to sort of get myself out of situations where it was an assignment, whether it was hard work, you know, whatever. It was very funny how your body, you know all your mind, will create these sort of mechanisms to protect yourself and when you're not really aware or you know, when you're young, don't have the ability to critically thinking analyze and you sort of think you're okay. But for me it was after high school, I'd say, and getting into uni and then really wanting to do a certain thing at uni and then not realizing what what really entailed that thing. And for me it was broadcast pasting and it was media and I remember had this this experience and it was radio for me for sure. And in my second year of Uni I been working with the same group of people. Whatever ever talk into the same group of people. They all knew I'd been doing radio for a while and our major assignment for this unit that was called Radio Broadcasting. The production was, you know, literally a radio show. So we had we had producers, we had people that are going to be on the MIC and, you know, sort of people running websites and everything else, just kind of creating like a stimulating what a real life radio show would be like, and we sort of went through the like a like a formal not bad, not one of my thinking, not application, but like when you're an actor or something like, you do a what's it called when you you apply? It's audition. Yet so we just did an audition and it would basically just involved speaking for a couple of minutes. It involved talking into the MIC, and one thing that I've never done before was I definitely been talking to the MIC since I was a little kid, but I actually never really listened to myself speak at the same time and I didn't realize how much I breathe. So I was like talking sentences and here that sort of thing, and talking here that sort of thing. I didn't realize I did it and then I started doing it. I'm like wow, this is like massive, like I'm breathing a lot. And then I sort of just froze up. I got really sweaty, my hands are got really Clare me and I couldn't understand what was going on. Like something I wanted to do since I was a kid was sort of like flashing in front of my eyes, like can I do this, can I not do it? Little did I know that all I had to do was focus on my breathing and it was going to be okay. But at that moment I sort of decided, well, I don't know if I actually want to do this anymore, and from there it was like a it was like a very strange downward spiral. I decided to, you know, instead of facing that fear, instead of, you know, working on it and getting in front of it, I decided to avoid it and then I sort of went through the rest of my degree and just I was kind of a little bit lazy anyway. So I sort of halfassed everything, just did the bare minimum work and then kind of got out of Uni, went into the workforce and then got to a stage in the workforce where any situation that I found myself running into a fearful situation. So talking to customers or talking to a manager, like I'd avoided it all costs, I'd talked my way out of it and I wouldn't face it head on. And I'll be I'd be afraid of the hard work aspect of it, but I would I would more so be afraid of the failure of it and instead of doing what I do now, which is, you know, when I'm not sure of something, like communicate and I say like Hey, I actually don't know how to do this, so I'm worried about this. Can he help me, I would just avoid it at all cost and so that blood into another job, but sort...

...of another missopportunity, I'd say. And then it kind of went through. You know this, I could go on forever kind of about how life takes a hold and how depression comes over and that sort of thing, and something I don't really I'm happy to go into. It's not that, but I kind of feel like I would just talk for thirty ministrate and not cut to it. But it really was predicated around the idea of not, you know, kind of not facing the fear and any time a difficult situation would come up, it would just be avoid it's like, all right, move on, run away from it, come back and I think ultimately that's where like real anxiety and real depression comes in. Is like when you're you feel like you can't get away from anything and you can't get away from yourself. So that's kind of what happened with me. And then, you know, it kind of goes on from there, like you put on a bit of weight, you start self medicating, you start eating the wrong way and ultimately it's about running away from a little bit of fear. Anytime I felt that sense of fear, it was like Oh man, like here it is again, I'm not going to be able to do it, and then you sort of just move on and then slowly was just about unwiring that fear and kind of coming back into the level playing field of it and then understanding that we all experience it and then chasing it, not chasing it per se, but kind of facing it. I can't realize the anxiety is here in our ways. That here? Is it here because I'm doing something wrong? Is that here because I'm not confident in doing something, or is it just here because it's a kind of natural reaction to whatever's going on? And then, slowly but surely, wherever it was, like exercise, whether it was studying everything else, I kind of just slowly went back, went back and then sort of just understood that this sphere was normal and I can get on top of it. And then very quickly, once I started to kind of look at the perspective from that angle, things just sort of changed and now I'm at a stage now if I do experience that sort of fear emotional cortisol spike in emotion, which is kind of the the fear hormone that is in your body, I understand what it is and I'm very quickly go, okay, this one or two things I think we could do. I fear it is. One is like is a US, you know, is there anything we can do about it? If there is, then do something and if there's not anything can do about it, then just let it go and then slowly but surely kind of chip away and everything and you get rid of things that are maybe helping you put things off, and then from there you sort of just go and keep getting better, but you just remember in the back of your head that, like that fear is not a weakness like it's. It's something to overcome, and then you get strength in overcoming that fear, then everything becomes fun because you've ultimately conquered that fear. And that's kind of my full circle. I try to make that as short as I can, but yeah, that's kind of how I went with it. And it all came, you know, it all came from the mind, like it was a physical reaction, that fear emotion, but it was ultimately about the adjustment from running away to running towards, because when you run towards you build the strengths overcome and then once you over become you're in a demon or you're inner battle, then everything else gets easier. And I didn't have like a knee death experience per se, but I had a knee. I had any sense of like my life heating in a spill, that I wasn't going to come out of it. So it was almost like a it was almost like that step up from that and then and from there. Now it's just great. Everything's really good and I feel very comforted, you know, becoming my fears now and bringing challenges on and I'm I guess I'm very lucky. I sort of figured that out of the young age and I didn't live twenty, thirty years and have it unwhire. That's a big thing about, like exercise and everything else, is having unwhy those things, those habits that you sort of build and create over years and years. Absolutely, I think I was a loss you there for a second. I sort of like I would here. I was good. Oh, no, I was there. I was just it was it was really great and I thought you were in a flow there, so I didn't want to see. They should, but that was it was brilliant. No, I really appreciate that. Was If you're going to fall full forward. Yeah, that's exactly going to fall forward, you know, if you're gonna, if you're going to suffer from fear, you know, suffer from it and then learn from it and then face it head on, I guess. Yeah, and you bring like bring the tribe in with it, like you don't at all yourself, like you feel like you feel like when it is a weakness. You feel like you've got to do it yourself, but then you start to realize that everyone else has these feelings and that little community that you have what gives you strength, and the more you sort of do things either that are going to challenge your fear or the more you bring in other people to help you, then yeah, we don't have to do this alone. And that was kind of a that was kind of another area of it that helped massively. Sure you never have to do it alone. Absolutely, I think your own point there and you know, just on that end,...

...that's a hundred percent to you need support, and I mean this, I'm going to bring my experience quickly back into it, just because just because it is a reliant so in my experience, I am I can quite easily say, you know, if it wasn't for my friends supporting me and act, you know, giving me the time out of their days while I was in the recovery period, I would have been it would have been a very different recovery. Yeah, you know, you know, you Laughlin was there while I was recovering, you know, every day pretty much. You know. So, you know, Massy used to be there pretty much every day. Greater sure is with there. You know, they were there were some few people who were always there and it was just brilliant. You know, friends were always there and it was really nice and that helped massively, you know. So it's true, hundred percent to you gotta, you know, you got to stick to that tribe at times as well. Now I'm going to sort of jump a little bit more into it and as to talk about what your normal fear is like the fears of it. So you know when you have fears, right, so, fear years sort of qualify other fears, if you if you know what I mean right. So you have a fear of not knowings. Whats a compounding effectively mean like a sort of build. That's for work. I still way and looking for really. So you know, you have a fear of perhaps fear of doing a presentation or fear of not knowing how to do something. And there will be another fear of asking because you don't want to look like you don't want to think, you don't want people to think that you don't know something. And then and then there's another fear that comes in because you feel pretty, you don't feel great about yourself and there's another fear that comes in that starts, you know, the fear of self judgment. My friend, there is no worse judgment than self judgment. Yeah, it's one of those things when you start can escape judging yourself. You can't escape it. That's a that's a dark hole that it's I mean, you can get out of anything, but that's a dark place to go into. When you start despising yourself for those fears, that's when life becomes hard. So I think I'm going to start with saying if there's a fear that you're suffering with and you're, you know, despising yourself for having the fear, cut that shit out, because the fear is normal. You know, everyone has fears. You wouldn't be human if you weren't didn't have fears. Yeah, what would you be you didn't have fears, you'll be associate path because exactly have normal, Ye human amizations. You'll be. Yeah, yeah, exactly, you'd be. Yeah, you've been non human. Yeah, for sure. And they are some benefits to fears, way benefits. I'm going to list them out here. For sure, walking off a cliff right accidentally, that's a fear because you know, you not to go that because you know you can die, yes, of fear in the right that's right. You know, fear of you know, something like, you know, slapping your boss across the face. You know you'll probably get fired and end up in prison. So probably one end am in prison. But you know there's does some right fierce habits place. Right. So you don't want to be a sociopath who doesn't feel those fears. But never despise yourself for having those fears. But in in fact you should. In fact, what you should do is acknowledgement. And you know, acknowledgement and awareness is a very, very big deal in a sense where it will help you a lot, let's say, if you're and there's actually a few stories that I've actually got in my head locker, and so I'm going to start chatting about them a little bit, but I'm not gonna NOT gonna say any names or would any details, because in fact I've got three stories and all three of those stories are pretty pret like by all means. Those people have the right to have those faiths, right. Yeah, so one particular story that and and these are real people, by the way. So one particular story is a fear aspect built on act of doing something right. So some there's a person who's afraid of doing a certain thing right. And, you know, let's say, we're going to say that person is afraid of, I know, of sleeping. Right, they have a fear of sleeping, I don't you. So this is legitimating. You can have fear of sleeping in a fear of sleeping that you're not going to wake up the next day, right, or something. There's other fears as well. That's a pretty big fear to have, and this pretty like, you know, the fears that people have love, you know, traveling in a traveling in planes, so many peas. Yeah, the oceans. Yeah, that's a big of...

...the ocean with you, the ocean yourself. You know, first of all you got through to yourself. Is, why do you have that fear? Right? So, where does it start? You know where it is. Start. What was the basic basis of it? You know, you'll go well, you know it was probably so you'll find you know, you're probably related to some childhood trauma or something else, something related, or maybe you know its completely irrational. Then you think to yourself, you start talking to yourself and acknowledge it, with full acknowledge, you know, with all cards on the table, you'll go well, maybe this fear is, you know, on it's you know, it's not rational. Right. Yeah, in the same breath that you know the problem, you'll probably be able to find a solution to for sure, and you'll be able to find the solution. Now it gets interesting with the other fears of you know, people have fears of something has happened to them, you know, where it's not pretty, you know, not really, it's not. You know, some bad things have happened to some good people. Right, and then people build very you know, build fears and by all means they have, you know, some solid trauma. You're going to build fears. You know you're going to start closing yourself up and you're going to start, you know, feeling you start going to judging yourself for having those fears and you start going in a nutshea once again. You know, that's when you're that's when your tribe comes in, you know, once again put if you are suffering from something that probably you know that is that is a result of something, a trauma that you you know, trauma that you sustained. You know who will help you with that? Your tribe. I think that's a good place to go. Yeah, yeah, to start, you know, at least now in the in the sense of fierce is other fears as well. So now, so those, those are just some ideas. You know, once again, I don't know everything about fear, but this are some ideas and I think they helped me, and I'm sure lock on time, if you can agree with me here, that those, those are the things that would help. That helped you as well. Yeah, one hundred percent. And it's also it's all self awareness as well, and it's also taking time. So when, you know, I'm really interested in you know, want to know. I want to know when was the last time people just took some took a time to just acknowledge their thoughts and what was on their mind. Acknowledgement, not much judging. I'm not talking about speaking, I'm not talking about, you know, writing them down, I'm just talking about acknowledgement. Oh, what's on their head? What's in the head? You know what's on your mind? Yeah, like it's not assessment of the situation and not your emotions, but the cause and why? Yeah, why? That emotion of fee, a rational or not, like why it's there, and what have you been doors to help, like add feel and what it yeah, yeah, and it's all calls and effects as well. You know, you what was the cause and was the effect and what's happening here? I you know, there's a very interesting podcast and this guy talks about juggling balls and he taught says, you know, self acknowledgement and self awareness is something. It's simple as juggling balls. Will Not as simple a struggling well, but you, you know, you want to be calm enough where you go, oh, well, that that, oh that thing was bothering me, and you know, you we see it again, all that thing is bothering me. All it really is bothering me. You know, you when you see the ball. But while you're doing that, you don't want to be too tense because you know you'll just be like you're trying, super focused on what you trying to do, juggle the balls, or you know when you're trying to or you can't be to relax. So it's a middle ground where you sort of sit down and acknowledge your thoughts as what the fears are, so that you know you can really acknowledge those fears and okay, well, this was they f was the course, was the effect, and is that really bothering me? And now's a solution. You know, can I solve that? And you know, obviously some you can. Some fears that you realize that you have in you just go really, I have that fear, you know, you just think to sell. What the fuck? Yeah, yeah, they it was more a lot. Yeah, that's right. And when you the more time you spend trying to understand the cause and acknowledging its effect, the lesson the effect will be. And it's just like it's just like conditioning yourself in the gym, like the more difficult time you put yourself through, and it's also very hard to do when you know you feel like it is a difficult time, the more you put yourself through it and the more you look like you want to understand what it is, that actually the better you'll get it overcoming and and and dealing with it, for sure, and lesson and out,...

...like you know. So they so those are the fees. Those are the real fears that you know, you know, bother us, and that boss, basically, you know, inside De scenari put us in depression and sort of, you know, put us in the loop that becomes hard to sort of get out of and nothing, and you know this, we could probably do of you know, two three episodes on just that. And I think the nutshell is pretty simple. INNO sence. You know, you've got to be all it's not simple but also simple. Is One of those things where you can you know it's it's that. Is that theory? What was that? The Belgium pelagium theory or whatever it's called. You know the way, it's simple. Yet it's not simple, but you know, I honestly think, my friends, that you can actually start looking and take a real audit over you are, you know, in life and what fears you have and really acknowledge him ask for help if you have to. And you know, as you know, everyone has feel like you know, there's me, Laughlin, both of us just, you know, sort of put the places that we went to, some dark places. You know, everyone has fears and everyone will understand and I'm sure everyone will offer a helping hand. If not, just send us a voice message and will, and that's a bit thing. Like opens up that. Yeah, I have anue like the you know, mostly most of the time. The you know, when you feel like you are alone, it's because you haven't you haven't pushed you know, you haven't tested those waters. You have at it. Kind of remind this of the support group you do have around you. And then when you know, usually you have some good people, and then actually might be a good chance to realize the certain people that actually care or don't. But then they might share an experience and you go wow, you might go, well, my problem actually is very manageable. Or Wow, they have an issue too and we can both work together and they'll build off each other. That's well, that's it. That's that's another that's other picked big thing insold but perspective as well. Sometimes you think your problems are unmanageable and it's so big and you've got the worst life in the whole of the entire of the word. And then you look around and you realize that some people are suffering, yeah, really, really, really bad, and some of that suffering is not just, you know, suffering in the mind. It's suffering. It's a real suffering, not self increased wounds like. Yeah, to live in the country we live in and to be to be able to do what we're doing right now, like we're in the, you know, the one percent. We're in the five percent in terms of being able to do this sort of thing. So it yeah, that all comes with that sort of critical self analysis. You kind of start to understand, you start to open. Yeah, as you pull the wall from out under own it's sort of it's a snowball effect, for sure. Absolutely, and you know it's once again, it's all about self ordered, self awarendness. Self awareness is a key as to seeing what you know, where you are, and you know also the like I talked about before. You know, you got excitement, is a complete opposite of fear. But you know there's a middle ground which you know you can have both, which is thrill. You know, if you're grateful once again, fears. The moment you start becoming grateful for the you know, circle you're in, the you know, the things that you already have, the you know, the problems that you're not facing, the moment you start becoming grateful, those fears start to fade as well. And there's a fair faith is also another big one. Faith and also those are some anti fear things or anti aside, any thing anti you know, so you go. Faith. Faith is a big one. You know, it's come. If you have faith, fear is merely ill faith. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, faith that things are going to get better, faith that you have the strength to other calm, faith that there's people in your life and and ultimately, it's a it's strength. Faith is trouss your prank. Face of light is turn don't do it. It's like an ultimate power. It's like a secret weapon. Absolutely, absolutely, you know. Then you go. You know, then you can go into other things as well. You can going too. You know. Now you know if you if you, if you believe in God, you know you got God to support you. If you believe in you know, the universe and the methodology of the union was you got the universe and the methodology of Universe is support you. If you believe in anything, you believe in. If you have faith, you know that you fear will fit. You know you don't have to believe anything. You if you're spiritual, you know if you believe in the spirituality, once again, you have that faith. And those are some you know, those are some anti fear. Do Or, you know, if you call them the natural antidepressant. Stay in your control, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, those are those's important ones and that's a very difficult that's a difficult topic in...

...it itself. Like the only I I thankfully, didn't take any, any medication outside of like a sleep aid. Yeah, and I know a lot of people Roman, you know, late it's like putting a bandoid over a bigger salute. Big problem like medication in the over medication of people in today's society has led, you know, led to way more problems than it's sort of helped in. There's certain, you know, certain circumstances where medication is so beneficial, but yeah, more often than not it's it's in the long term, it's sort of suppressing the issue. It's yeah, it is. It is sort of because that's what it does, like it's a it all. It all suppress, you know, it all suppress the stress hormones. It'll suppress even you're a dream or gleat, like it'll do things to sort of lessen the emotions. It doesn't solve anything. It's like it just makes it not feel as bad for a period of time and then you have to continue that, you know, take this thing to help yourself feel better, and that's yeah, that's sort of a short term solution and shouldn't be a long terms for sure. And you know, and once again, I'm not, I'm not, you know, we're not saying that, you know, people don't have a real problem because, you know, I acknowledge that suffering that can these things can bring right. What I'm saying is, you know, sometimes they are they are scenarios where, you know, people, you know, may jump on prescribed medicine, but they yet haven't even explored their all of their you know, options and the avenues, because you know, it's a whole. It's hard to get out of. But you know, if you're innovative and self awareness and start looking at are taking a dream of audit and it's a brilliant thing. Now there's a these, an actual you know, this is a good opportunity. So there's actually an APP. It's called I want to plug that APP because it's a really nice APP and it's good. It's called WO WE BOUGHT WOE BOT. Spell that again. Woh E Bot. Okay, yeah, so that's a that's a very interesting APP, because the APP actually it's a little boat who sort of checks in with you every day and you know, it's for you. You so every day for fifteen days, that's when you start that APP, right think you have to stop high. There's no pay, there's no absolutely that's good. That's good. What the what the boat does in the checks in with you and you know it's really a boat. What it's doing? It's very small, because it's asking you questions that you're probably just answering and it gives you, it's like a to to full self awareness, to see where you are at, and you know it's it will ask you questions such as like, such as how do you think you will? How will you manage stress over the next seven days? You know, are you? Do you feel fully equipped for it, or you know you and you say no. And then they will ask you to least some things that you're grateful for. It's really interesting because you know before you say Oh, I feel stressed, and then you follow on by things. It'll say was all things. You know, even something smallers than Nice coffee you had list the mouth. When you start listing those things out that you're grateful for, all of a sudden your problems just become less. This is a very well designed APP so you know, I recommend that. Once again, it's not a crisis management APP, but it's a it's a nice APP and I rem I mean I use it and I think I'm like a pretty good state of mind, but it's just good to have an audit that of the you are like it dep breathing. It's just the edges, like a daily reminder that just to check up on yourself, you know. And then and then the days, you know, you feel good and then you feel like you don't need it. In the days that you don't feel good, you've got it there to help out. But now those those things are prittiant, like there's yeah, that's one of the beautiful things that technology is brought into our lives is that sort of thing, just like a fitness tracker, you know, both for your mind, for sure. Lovely. Now, just before we were almost up to the hour mark. Laughlin, the MODY, six thousdred and sixteen minutes, the mighty fifty nine. It's thirty one seconds. They's one more thing, and this is where I'm gonna I'm sure you can jump in on this one as well, but I'm going to unleash a little bit of here, right and this is some fears that people have and the fears, and there's nothing that I'm going to say to these fears. Are Irrational fears, you know, they if they're just silly. And then people are just really trying to avoid taking some actions. And then we talked about this before, but this is an interesting one. So, you know, let's say you've got you once again waking...

...up in the morning, and it's not often because, you know, you know, what are you doing with about your day? Like, you know, if you set your intentions, are going to you know, if you first of all, are you really setting your intentions to go, you know, wake up in the morning, or you just half a saying, will see if I wake up or yeah, you know, props to me. If I don't, you know, fuck it. Yeah, if you do, you don't got to wait happen. That's right, you've got it. You've got to do it for you've got to force yourself into a bit sure. Yeah, yeah, that's it, and it's well, what was that lock? What's that? That that sound that you had? I believe I may have just had to reconnect my headphones. Does it's okay now? No, it's all good enough. So, yeah, so, that's just want F now people have so, and I am going to talk about this because I've been doing this so so recently as also, which is really this is so I have the right to unliciate myself and people so, which is which is really interesting. So this two scenarios here, where I'm talking about fear of failure and success in a sense, where, you know, this is in relation to you know, let's say, if you want to do something, even to go to the gym, or if you want to start a project, you want to start a business. Right. There's many times where I've started a project right. And this, see, this is complete self awareness and at times I'm or maybe this is ego, but I am well aware that if I execute a plan correctly, and that I know, you know, there's an idea that I have, and I execute the plan correctly that I have in my mind, the failure rate is pretty low. Yeah, and but it's going to be so, and it's confidence based off, you know, your own ability is because you prove to yourself that you can do it right. Absolutely, yeah, for some reason, and I don't take that action or the final step or the first step, and you know, they was and once again, this is a completely out of self audit. Right. So, and I was like, why am I not taking that action when I'm well aware this plan is going to succeed? Right, all, this plan's going to work. Turns out, turns out that I was avoid I've been avoiding certain items. It is because not only out of fear of failure, because you know, knowing that if I unitiate this project and what if this project doesn't work out, but also out of fear of success of that project, because fear of success is in that if I, if I take that action, my life would never be the same. YEA, and I don't know what's going to happen. The fear of uncertainty, which is see that fear. Now, I'm going to say this completely bullshit, which I should really be facing that face straight up, head forwards. And you know, because when I when you start progressing, progressing is the meaning. You know, that's the only that's only time when you truly happy, there's no reason to be fearful of you know what I have today or you know, wishing that you know what my life will be, because life's always going to change. The thing's going to be able to you know, you can't stop it. I can't stop it, no one can stop it. And failure, if you know. So, that's if you're worried about. You know, if you have fear of success, success. Now, if you have fear of failure, and a lot of people say, Oh, they don't have fear of success, who fear is success? It's not as simple as that. You know, you don't necessarily fear success. No one fears money or no one fears US shared body. Yeah, but it's right, because you've got it. You've got to keep leveling, apply like once you do one, yeah, it's right. You you can't just keep doing the same thing like this. It's a hundred per's going to go. You've got to go deeper. Once you go a hundred percent, you've got to go deeper hundred percent, and you got to keep going, keep battling, because, my friend, the only fear that you should have is the fear of being stagnanted. Yeah, now, that's a real fear that you should have. So, yeah, because that could be hard and not so that those are the face. So you know, if you're fearful of success, that's bullshit. Get moving. If you have fear of failure. You can't avoid failure. The most successful people in the world, and I mean by all rickards, people who were emotionally successful, people who were successful businessmen, people with successful body builders or any more. You know, people's people at being self aware, at the maximum level. You know, spiritual people, all of them suffered failures. You know, you talk about you know you don't, but not talk about profits that work in you know, certain religions or you know, you talk about even God's in history, even God suffer failure. So, you know, why would you suffer fear of failure? Yeah, failures. You can't avoid failure. Failure is merely an opportunity for you to grow, because resistance is what makes you grow. So if you don't on suffer from failure, you never going to grow, because you don't need to level a big well, keep me winning, you know. Yeah, and it's in those losses that you do you get the chance to learn and you get to chance to win through the loss, because that's a...

...real win, is when you lose and then you come back and then you win. That's it, that's it. And now, absolutely no, there's another there's another theory and this another aspect of it. So people are fearful of materialism, like as in not having enough materialistic items, and they which is a completely different one, and it's but yet yes, says you know. Once again, it's a in the middle of in rash, irrational and rational fear. So, you know, someone may be really truly stressed about their finances, and I talked about this a bit before. There's a project I'm working on and one of the studies we were doing on the project is turns out one of the big stresser for people is finances. Now, with finance, people are fearful of not having enough money. Right. The problem is until which is such an interesting fee, because the fear works in a weird way where if you have a skate city mentality, if you're worried, you know you. It's the whole thing about donation, right. Let let's say if you give away ten dollars a week and you make, like Bailey, any money right and all month, you're giving away something in in comparison to what you make. So you being a little giving a little piece of what you make. You know, let's say if you were to make my so but what that tells the universe or God or anyone. But it tells the universe that you are the kind of person who needs more money because you know, yep, you still feel comfortable with having their money. But if you have a skate city mentality where you like, Oh, why can't donate ten bucks, or or I better not pay for parking or like, you know, try to cut corners here, you know, I'm saying same definitely, same money. I'm not saying don't save money, but I'm saying is that this is example. I'm using money is example, because such a big deal for people. Yeah, but it's you know, we're s a scenario where if you have a skate city mentality where you know, you think something in this short demand, short need, in in shore supply, it's gonna be that for you. You know, there's a whole theory about you know, if you take away all the money from all the rich people in the world and give it to everyone else, soon those people will will be back at the top anyway. Yeah, because the difference is because those people, that's who, that's who, just they are, and it's not like, you know, money is a very interesting topic because you can earn money. There's no there's no stopping it in. You know this. That's a hoot. That's who they are. And there's people out there who are worried about money constantly, but that's who they are. So you got to change that as well. So that so that's also a fear aspect. So once you tackle that fear, you will probably get rid of those money problems as well. So, which is a really interesting one. So, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not by any means thing. Go had and spend all your money. In fact, I think no one should ever spend any money on stupid item, stupid shit. Yeah, so when I saw which is many Avocados and toasts and that. Yeah, church, we call it tithing. And Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. Like it's not, it's not putting yourself in a position to failure, it's putting yourself it's it's ultimately really the easiest way to explain it is it's a mindset that, even though I might not have the money now, if I have the attitude and that you know, there are people, there are things that are you know, there's a bigger purpose than my own struggle, what I'm going through now. And it does, yeah, it can only be a couple of dollars, but at the universe, like God, will provide. You know it, you do get provided for. It's just you have to you have to just like everything, you have to have the right attitude towards it. Let me put it is in in in regards to money, and this is you know, and in regards to love and in regards to pretty much many things, more you give, more you will have. Yep, it's plus to blood. Apparently, more blood you give, better healthy you are. That's it. The more spermi donate, the more your body has to create. That's a good one. That's a good one. Say, that's a brilliant yeah. So once again, are you going to change your attitude? You got to change the stand we've talked about this and Robbins has a very good talk on standards and how you got to change. You. What kind of person are you? You know what's your standard? Are you the person who gives you money anyway, regardless of you how? You know, regardless of you got fifty two dolls in your account? Are you the person who helps their friends, even if you go forty four dolls in your account? Yeah, he's got a great. Anyway. His example is great, isn't it? When he said he was like twenty years old, he had no money and he saw son and he saw his mom out to lunch and he gave the last bit of money he had and there was freaking out, but that was sort of his turning point in life because he knew that, you know, when he had something, when he had nothing, he had everything. So yeah, that's a that's a very good that's a very good story by Old Tony Robins. I love. I love here and that one every a couple of times a year. Our mamaself that one, because it's such a great message, for sure, and you know, and I think lacking in I'm going to let your wrap up soon, but you know,...

I just want to once again, you know, real literate. It's so important for self audit is absolute key. You know, you got to be aware of who you are. You know, raise your standards. Who are you going to be? Who Do you want to be, and start living that person to colors. If you know, if you don't have the money, you know, if you have fears of things, you know, start facing them in a sense where you know you get your friends to support you. And facing those fears, you know, which is a really interesting one. Just a quick little side story. So one of the things that, you know, that people talk about is addiction is also sort of related to fear as well, because you know, let's say, if you're addicted to alcohol, right, so, you know what makes it hard for you to give up alcohol is the fact that you're fearful of you will never enjoy or, you know, any another day that will pass will not be easy or would not be a nice day if you don't have that particular you know, your your poison, I suppose, with it, you know see as other than it's a fear of that, not having that, and you think your day will never done it. There's a yeah, so that's it. Just on. So you fear. You will have to tackle it and it's you have to really get into you there's a, you know, state between logical anymore. Sure. You have to do a self for it, be selfaware, change your life. I believe in all of you, but, yeah, lack when let I let you continue on and start wrapping up and talk about what you were talking about a little bit as well. Yeah, now, that's perfect. I think we've hit the nail on the head here and where we're yeah, we're providing some really good insight and it's very personal, but it's also very you know, it's what everyone goes through and like the cliches, cliche because they're repeated. You know, all good teachers and all great teachings speak of the same thing. But like your fee is actually a secret, it's the thing that traps you is actually the thing that's going to set you three and the kind of the power you get from overcoming your fears from way up and go into the gym when you don't want to, or, you know, talk into the boss when you don't want to, or throwing yourself into a new career when you know you've become so dependent on whatever else. You know, the kind of consistency of, you know, being stuck in the one position. But like that, that Cliche is the ultimate truth of life. Like on the other end of your own fear is, you know, it's success and it's not like you just jump the line and you hop over the fence and it's there for you. But it's just the power you get from overcoming those fears that helps you take on another fear and then helps you take help someone else and then it's just a snowball effect, and then six months goes by and then you're a different person. It's beautiful life. Life has so many hidden secrets like that's a beautiful thing. And Yeah, just self audit be you know, don't be relucted, don't be don't be scared of it. It is a scar, is a fearful motion, but it's a human emotion as well, and we have the power to create it and we have the power to overcome it too. That's right. Any of you ask for help and if you dig a self orders and soon what the snowball lock when you talked about will turn into an avalanche. Yeah, that's right. Be Able to, you know, help many other loong the way, and that's journey added with yourself. Yeah, exactly right. You conquered that, you know, conquered that, and then you can conquer everything else. And will reiterate this. Where your focus goes, your energy flows, baby, good and bad. Where you're focus goes, your energy flows. And Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Life's a beautiful thing, my friend. It's brilliant. Thank you so much once again for sharing that story and I think this has been a beautiful, beautiful podcast, and I think I want to use the word beautiful because, yeah, it's been very emotional and I think I've I actually got pre emotional during the talking about this because I am I feel for people and I think this is and I feel for myself. I feel for yeah, I feel for everyone that this is a difficult one. So shout out to everyone who's going through something difficult. Just know that you know their people out there who can help you. You can help you, I can help you, lock on down you if you know, I'm sure you have friends, parents and you're sometimes we are hard on people, but know that there's a lot of people out there who love you. So, yeah, it comes for a place of love and yeah, we all have a tribe one one way or another. So, yeah, I think that's it there, baby. That's it. And if you don't have any other put any if you don't have any of the tribe, join our tribe. It's the Claimin at Ron. That's I. I a damage but work ground and learning together. So yeah, well, that's good. If I that's it for my friend. This has been a clever damage podcast, episode number four. Thank you, guys so much, all the best. God bless type there and I've always.

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